Beberapa tahun terakhir saham menjadi instrumen investasi yang cukup populer di kalangan anak muda. Hal ini tentu tidak lepas dari masyarakat Indonesia yang semakin melek investasi dan masifnya media sosial.
Adanya pergeseran gaya hidup masyarakat juga mendorong perubahan dalam pengelolaan keuangan, dari yang dulu cenderung "Saving Society" kini menjadi "Investing Society".
Menarik untuk dibahas, saat ini sudah bersama kami, Yudha Ramadhan atau yang lebih dikenal dengan Yudha Keling. Namanya tidak asing di dunia stand up komedi, tapi siapa sangka, Yudha Keling juga memiliki pengetahuan yang cukup luas tentang dunia saham.
Adanya pergeseran gaya hidup masyarakat juga mendorong perubahan dalam pengelolaan keuangan, dari yang dulu cenderung "Saving Society" kini menjadi "Investing Society".
Menarik untuk dibahas, saat ini sudah bersama kami, Yudha Ramadhan atau yang lebih dikenal dengan Yudha Keling. Namanya tidak asing di dunia stand up komedi, tapi siapa sangka, Yudha Keling juga memiliki pengetahuan yang cukup luas tentang dunia saham.
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00:00 Because stand-up comedy needs specialization.
00:04 There are many stand-up comedians who are good at politics,
00:08 who are good at regional issues.
00:11 But there are only a few who are good at finance.
00:14 They survive because of that.
00:16 Because the jobs that come now are
00:19 what security is the stand-up comedy,
00:22 what emitting is the stand-up comedy.
00:25 I'm okay with it, I'll cut my losses now so I can get profit elsewhere.
00:30 Some people buy other places, cut their losses again.
00:33 The capital is also gone.
00:35 My trading is waiting for my WhatsApp friend to come in.
00:39 Hello, investors.
00:48 Back again in Fincast with me Prisa Somodhatu.
00:51 The last few years have been the same as an investment instrument that is quite popular among young people.
00:56 Even the number of investors has experienced a significant increase in the last few years.
01:02 This is certainly not without the Indonesian people who are increasingly fond of investment and the massive social media.
01:08 The shift in the lifestyle of the community also pushes for changes in financial management.
01:13 From what used to be a saving society to an investing society.
01:18 This time we will discuss it together with one of the stand-up comedians who is also an investment.
01:27 And maybe you can say now a financial influencer too.
01:32 He is Yuda Ramadhan or better known as Yuda Kele.
01:36 Hello, how are you?
01:38 Good, how are you?
01:40 Thank you for joining us this time.
01:42 Thank you for inviting me here.
01:46 I thought only successful investors were invited.
01:50 No, it turns out that investors who are still stuck are also invited.
01:54 Wow, he immediately gave a speech.
01:57 What sector are you stuck in?
02:00 There are many sectors.
02:03 I think I'm in all sectors.
02:05 Oh yeah, what's the most?
02:07 Sector ...
02:08 Banking?
02:09 No, what's the name?
02:12 Digital.
02:14 Oh, digital.
02:15 Oh, you like digital.
02:17 Digital and moving in the field of transportation.
02:21 The color is green.
02:24 We can't continue.
02:27 You're stuck there, right?
02:29 I'm stuck there from the beginning of the IPO until now I haven't released it.
02:33 Okay, good.
02:35 But not this one, right?
02:37 It's pretty deep.
02:39 But you haven't been broke, right?
02:42 Not yet, because if I'm broke now, it's a waste of money.
02:46 So, I'll be broke later if I'm lucky.
02:48 Okay, how did you get into stock investment in the beginning?
02:53 There are still many young people now, even though the number of investors has increased,
02:57 there are also those who are still afraid.
02:59 I was stuck at first because of the pandemic.
03:03 So, when the pandemic was one of the things that was often talked about on social media, right?
03:09 About the stock market.
03:11 There are a lot of new stock influencers who appeared in 2020 on TikTok and Instagram.
03:16 I saw their content, it was really good.
03:20 Buying a stock can immediately increase by 25%.
03:22 Finally, I joined.
03:24 I really didn't have any basics, I joined in buying.
03:27 And at that time, when I first entered, it was in May 2020.
03:31 So, the price was falling.
03:34 And the first time I bought it, I was immediately lucky.
03:36 I got the profit really fast.
03:38 But, as time went by, in October, the market was back to normal.
03:46 The habit of buying stock no longer brings profit.
03:51 Instead, after buying, it went down.
03:54 When I saw it on social media, "Why is this person on social media, if he just bought it, he immediately went up,
03:58 why did I just buy it and it went down?"
04:00 Finally, I tried to contain it, when it was contained, it turned out to be crowded.
04:04 Okay, from there, it continued.
04:08 At first, can we say that FOMO?
04:11 At first, it was really FOMO.
04:13 So, it was crowded on social media, I joined.
04:15 Because during the pandemic, there was almost no stage for stand-up comedians.
04:18 Because you can't make an offer event, right?
04:20 So, there are a lot of people at home, making a lot of content at home.
04:23 So, scrolling TikTok, scrolling IG, "Oh, this is crowded, I'll join."
04:28 So, at that time, you entered as a daily trader, right?
04:32 Daily.
04:33 So, you walked around the clock.
04:36 Anyway, what influencer was talking about that day, I bought it.
04:41 Oh, just follow the influencer, right?
04:43 Follow the influencer.
04:44 So, because I didn't know the basics, at that time, maybe the stock was still 700 emittents, if I'm not mistaken.
04:52 Now it's 900.
04:54 I'm confused, from 700, I have to choose one, which one to choose?
04:57 Okay, I'll just follow the influencer.
04:59 Because if we look at it, there is no one that shines, then I choose it, no.
05:04 Okay, then that was 2020.
05:08 2020, now it's 2024.
05:10 How can it be broken?
05:12 So, in 2020, I finally got stuck and made content.
05:17 In 2021, I was invited by Bursa Effect to join the Influencer Incubator.
05:23 So, I was mentored by them.
05:25 Mentored, if we talk about stock on social media, the angle is like this.
05:30 The right one is like this, the one that is avoided is like this.
05:33 Because I was mentored, then I finally got it, it turns out that the financial world is this important for life.
05:40 When I felt that, I finally continued to make content.
05:43 That's why I still talk about finance and still talk about stocks.
05:48 Okay, so you are an investor in the stock market.
05:53 Or are you more resistant to content?
05:57 Because stand-up comedy needs specialization.
06:04 Yes.
06:05 There are many stand-up comedians who are good at politics, good at regional issues.
06:11 The one who is good at finance is just a little.
06:14 Okay.
06:15 Finally, I resisted because of that.
06:17 Because the jobs that come now are stand-up comedy on security, stand-up comedy on what broadcast.
06:25 You said yourself that you have to be good.
06:28 Must be good.
06:29 Have you felt good yet?
06:30 Not yet.
06:31 The important thing is actually you can pretend to be good.
06:35 You don't have to be really good.
06:37 So, even if you don't understand, ask through WhatsApp, "Is it true to say this?"
06:43 So that it looks good outside.
06:47 But what is the most difficult according to you?
06:50 I also feel that at first, usually in IDX Channel there is stock news, etc.
06:57 It's an economy but it's very micro and there is its own field.
07:02 If you are alone, what is the most difficult from that?
07:05 About investment?
07:08 For me, the most difficult ...
07:10 Especially the capital market.
07:11 What is the most difficult?
07:15 That's it.
07:16 Capital market, if there is no capital, it's useless.
07:19 Just the market.
07:21 And if the capital is small, it doesn't change anything.
07:25 For me, the most difficult is finally not following what is popular on social media.
07:33 For me, it's really hard.
07:34 Finally not following what is popular.
07:36 Yes, because in the beginning, I was in the investment world, I felt that if other people are lucky, I'm not.
07:43 I feel the loss.
07:45 Even though we can't follow all the stocks that are up that day.
07:50 Maybe the one we bought today will go up the next day.
07:55 In the past, I felt ...
07:56 Or not going up.
07:57 Or not going up, it can.
07:58 Or it can go down all the time.
08:00 I feel that if I just bought a stock, then people on social media buy other stocks and the stock is profitable.
08:05 I immediately sell my stock and buy the one that is profitable.
08:09 Oh, you're not confident right away.
08:10 I'm not confident, so I always jump like, "It's okay, I'll cut it now so I can get profit elsewhere."
08:16 Those who buy elsewhere, cut loss again.
08:19 Buy again, cut loss again.
08:21 The capital is also exhausted.
08:22 That's it.
08:24 That's the most difficult for me.
08:25 Okay, then you're usually often invited by the security to be a stand-up comedian.
08:32 Then if you meet, you must meet a lot of people.
08:35 Actually, if I'm invited, it's more often like this.
08:37 There is one host, one source who really understands investment and there is me to be a bad example.
08:43 So I'm like a picture of a canker wrapped in a cigarette.
08:48 That's often the case.
08:53 Speculation and investment cause you to be like this.
08:59 Actually, my photo is like that.
09:02 Oh my.
09:03 So what do you want to ask?
09:10 I'm often invited.
09:12 Yes, quite often.
09:15 So, the next person is invited again?
09:18 Because if he still needs a bad example, he's still invited.
09:25 In the old days, it was often embarrassing if asked how much you have invested here.
09:32 We are sometimes like that.
09:34 Have you ever felt like that?
09:36 That's the good thing.
09:38 I've been watching about investment since the beginning.
09:42 I've never seen how much you bought.
09:44 So, it seems that people also feel that this person is rich.
09:49 Because it's not shown, he doesn't want to show his wealth.
09:54 Even though he doesn't want to show it because he's embarrassed.
09:57 Even though he has told stories, "I have a big loss, I only bought two lots."
10:02 "What's wrong with you? I'll return your money."
10:05 But has anyone ever told you, "I'm investing this much, and we feel like..."
10:13 Yes, there are often like that.
10:16 "Don't invest a lot, it will shake."
10:18 "This is not shaking at all."
10:21 "It won't shake at all if I invest."
10:26 What is it that people often ask?
10:30 You are now also known as a stock investor.
10:34 What do people usually ask you?
10:37 They ask me, "Do you really keep on investing? Or is it just content?"
10:41 Is the content always stuck?
10:45 Yes, because the crowd is that.
10:47 So, I often feel like, "If I'm lucky, I feel like I'm at a loss."
10:51 "Oh no, there's no content."
10:53 So, I feel like, in fact, to be lucky in the stock market, you don't have to be lucky forever.
10:59 You can be lucky even if you're at a loss.
11:01 Because if you're at a loss, you're contained by the crowd, you get endorsed.
11:04 Don't look for the same stock now.
11:06 The same stock that is going down.
11:08 Because if I...
11:11 I often see in the app, "What is the top loser?"
11:16 Oh, you see which one will keep on being a loser.
11:19 In the top loser, in this content, there are many people...
11:23 Because for me, people in social media,
11:26 if they see someone who is lucky, it's normal.
11:29 And I think if you share your happiness, people are not that engaged.
11:34 But if you share your misery,
11:36 there must be other people who are miserable too.
11:38 "I'm represented by him."
11:40 Looking for a friend.
11:44 So, if you're looking for a top loser, "Oh, this will be engaged with followers."
11:48 If...
11:50 If you're lucky, "Oh, arrogant."
11:53 But if you're at a loss, "My friend."
11:55 "My friend."
11:56 If you're lucky, we tell you on social media,
11:58 you'll only get a friend who borrows money.
12:01 So, don't tell.
12:03 But still, it's like...
12:07 I feel like I'm contributing to make many people out there...
12:11 finally worried about capital market investment.
12:14 Oh, no. Because in 2021,
12:18 I was mentored by Bursa through Influencer Incubator.
12:22 And what I heard from Bursa,
12:25 in 2020-2021,
12:28 the number of capital market investors has increased a lot.
12:30 Almost 50% or more, if I'm not mistaken.
12:32 The average is a beginner.
12:35 Many people think that...
12:38 the stock market is a place to earn money quickly.
12:44 They don't think that...
12:46 in the stock market, you can experience a loss.
12:49 With me, I'm the balance between other contents that maybe...
12:53 "Here, join the stock market so you can get rich quickly."
12:56 So, there's a balance.
12:58 So, the retail investors who want to join or the people who want to...
13:02 enter the capital market, they know that there's a risk in the stock market.
13:07 It's not that many people know that the stock market is risky.
13:12 Maybe now, yes. But in 2020-2021,
13:16 it was a time when many people joined the stock market...
13:19 because you can get rich quickly.
13:21 You can get 25% in a day.
13:23 At that time, the decline was only 7%.
13:25 That's why in 2021, many people...
13:28 who finally became investors,
13:31 they were worried because they were stuck in high prices.
13:35 Okay. Yudha, for example, someone met you and you're stuck.
13:39 What do you want to say?
13:40 If many people are stuck, no one will watch the content, right?
13:45 Just make content if you're stuck.
13:48 Don't be stuck. Make content like me, who knows the content can be crowded.
13:53 Okay. So, according to you, Yudha,
13:57 the opportunity of reinvesting in the capital market...
14:00 is it getting more interesting?
14:03 Now I'm aware.
14:05 You're aware?
14:06 I'm quite aware.
14:07 So, if you were asked if the content is really stuck or not,
14:13 actually there are also profitable stocks.
14:15 Because it has reduced buying based on feeling.
14:22 Now, it's always ahead of the risk compared to getting profit.
14:27 So, I think the risk is too big. I can't accept it.
14:29 Finally, the stock is not bought.
14:31 What's the difference between buying based on feeling and buying based on analysis?
14:36 It means you've started to analyze, right?
14:38 Yes. / Reset.
14:39 A little bit.
14:41 Although, actually, if you read the analysis,
14:44 "What's this? No. This is just a morphology."
14:47 What makes the difference is the stock's choice.
14:51 Usually, for long term,
14:54 if the market cap is big, it's far more stable than the small one.
14:59 That's the choice.
15:00 The feeling was based on the top gainer today,
15:04 immediately join because they just want to join for a day or two,
15:07 then they withdraw.
15:08 Now, there are some stocks that are for long term.
15:12 In the current market, it's okay.
15:14 The daily movement may not be interesting,
15:17 only 0.25, 0.50.
15:20 But if you look at the long term,
15:22 for example, big banks can increase by 10% every year.
15:26 If you feel it's enough with that much profit,
15:29 you don't need to look for a very fast one.
15:31 Oh, I know the risk profile.
15:33 This much, I'm just right.
15:36 If this much is out.
15:37 Yes, that's right.
15:38 But for the content needs,
15:41 such stocks don't look interesting.
15:44 What we want to discuss is the stock whose movement is only 0.25, 0.50.
15:50 But for the content, the calculation is also for the work.
15:54 Finally, it also enters the third layer of stocks for the trading needs.
16:00 Trading needs plus content needs.
16:03 Because of that, there are more people who join and are more interesting to discuss.
16:10 Okay, so far, do you remember how many METAN have been invested or are being traded?
16:19 No need to mention the name, just remember how many stocks are there.
16:22 I don't know and I never counted.
16:25 Because at the beginning, it's really like a beginner.
16:28 The one in the portfolio can ...
16:30 No, there are still some.
16:31 Oh, there are still some now?
16:33 Until, for example, 3 or 5.
16:35 Well, more.
16:36 More? Wow, arrogant.
16:38 Not arrogant.
16:39 Because there are some METAN that have entered and have been caught and can't be released.
16:43 I have two METAN that are now priced at 50.
16:47 Oh, Gocap.
16:49 The price of Gocap. One has been suspended from 2021 until now.
16:56 One from 2022, the price of Gocap is not moving again.
17:01 So, it's still there.
17:03 Maybe 10 or so.
17:06 10 or so?
17:07 Yes.
17:08 Okay, how much of the total funds, Yuda, are usually invested in stocks so far?
17:13 For example, there are people who say 30 percent, how much percent?
17:19 If it's still more fun, how much?
17:21 I don't know how much.
17:23 But now, because I know the benefits of investing, I think most of it is in stocks.
17:28 But indeed, for large market cap stocks, there are more there.
17:36 The trading is much smaller in number than for ...
17:39 Oh, so now there are also stocks that are mid-term and long-term?
17:46 Yes, there are also for the long-term.
17:48 There is also daily trading, because for the needs of the content, it's back again.
17:51 Plus, who knows if you're lucky, you can add more money with daily trading.
17:57 Okay.
17:58 But have you ever felt lucky that, "Oh, it turns out that investing is like this."
18:04 It's really lucky. I've found my trading style.
18:09 So, it's really good.
18:12 You've found the style.
18:14 My trading style is waiting for a WhatsApp friend, "Come on, come in here."
18:18 So it's still the same.
18:22 No, now his friends are already a lot of market makers.
18:25 Just kidding.
18:27 I already know that we don't have to trade in all the stocks.
18:34 We just need to collect 1-5 METN, we trade repeatedly in the same place.
18:40 So that we understand the pattern and understand the price movement.
18:45 It means entering the price, a lot of prices.
18:48 No, but trading repeatedly in the same stock.
18:51 So, for example, I've entered and left.
18:54 Later, I'll enter this stock again and leave again.
18:56 Because I already understand the pattern.
18:59 "If it's like this, it will usually be like this."
19:03 "If the security is buying in this stock, the stock will move like this."
19:10 So, to reduce the possibility of loss, by being detailed with trading in the same stock.
19:19 Oh, that's if trading?
19:20 If trading.
19:21 Okay.
19:22 If investing, there are some that I buy monthly.
19:24 It means you keep adding positions?
19:26 Keep adding positions.
19:27 Because one of the ways to reduce risk is the DCA.
19:33 So, it's done like that.
19:35 Okay, so far, besides stock investment, are there any other investments?
19:41 Or because the content is still stock investment?
19:44 There is also a mutual fund investment.
19:46 Which is more interesting?
19:48 From the style of Mr. Yudhani, mutual fund or stock?
19:51 Stock is more interesting.
19:53 Because at first, after I got involved, I got education.
20:00 It was said that if you don't understand, it's better to enter the mutual fund.
20:03 Because it is managed by an experienced investment manager.
20:07 And much more understand the world.
20:10 At first, there were a lot of mutual fund investments.
20:13 Then, now, because I can find out for myself, what is it that you see if you want to buy a stock.
20:23 Finally, I decided not to take the mutual fund.
20:27 But now it's rare to be topped up again.
20:30 Top up on stocks that have been chosen by themselves.
20:33 Oh, back then, mutual funds were only diversification from stocks.
20:40 What about you, Yuda? From the many people who said you were a friend.
20:47 I'm kidding.
20:49 Later, I'll ask, "Who are your friends?"
20:52 What is the opportunity in 2024 like?
20:57 With the results of the election, following the results of the election.
21:02 There is a stock that I bought because I thought it would be a candidate for something.
21:12 It turns out that it was not chosen and now the price of the stock is Rp 51 billion.
21:18 I really follow it too.
21:22 Because it's one of the moving stocks because of the news too.
21:26 If the owner is a candidate for something, the stock will move.
21:34 So, you want to move again because now the results of something become something.
21:40 I want to move again, but the price is Rp 51 billion.
21:42 My average is Rp 85 billion.
21:44 So, I'll wait. Hopefully, it will be something in 2040.
21:51 It's still a long time.
21:54 Still hopeful.
21:56 Are there any concerns about sentiments in 2024?
22:04 There are.
22:08 Not too much.
22:10 I just enjoy it.
22:12 Because for the long term, it's impossible to enjoy it in a short time.
22:18 So, sentiments like that usually move every day.
22:21 For the long term, it's just added.
22:25 But, there are many who are happy with the content that you are involved in.
22:30 Or maybe you are just happy to see Yudha suffering.
22:35 But, he doesn't join you.
22:37 Maybe because of that.
22:41 If we see a successful person, sometimes their will arises.
22:44 If there is a person who is suffering, the comedy character sometimes needs a victim.
22:50 Like we see people who are stuck in the banana peel, we can laugh because of that.
22:56 Maybe I am a person who is stuck in the banana peel in the context of the capital market.
23:01 So, they can laugh from there.
23:04 Do you often read the comments that are most often made?
23:08 Is it from the public or those who have already joined or maybe those who are already experts?
23:17 On average, it's from people who have already joined.
23:22 And from experts who know that the banana peel is really blown.
23:26 I always read the comments because there are not too many.
23:33 I am not Rafi Ahmad who has tens of thousands of comments.
23:37 40 comments per scrolling, I can read all of them.
23:41 So, it's not a big loss.
23:43 That's right.
23:46 The problem is if there is a big loss, the capital must be a lot.
23:49 My capital is not too much.
23:52 What do you want to say to the millennials?
24:02 Because there are many investors in the capital market now.
24:05 Did you know that there are many investors?
24:08 The active ones.
24:10 The active ones are also experiencing an increase.
24:12 But on average, about 50% are high school graduates.
24:19 Do you feel sad or proud?
24:24 I'm proud because many people are aware of their financial goals.
24:32 It's in the capital market, the first step to have a better life, I think.
24:38 Because you can save money not only for consumer needs, but also for the future.
24:45 So, the hope for the future can be even greater.
24:50 Hopefully, there will be more quality stocks with cheap prices.
24:59 What do you think now?
25:02 I don't know yet.
25:04 Because the answer was a bit random.
25:08 For me, I hope there will be more quality IPO stocks.
25:16 I think there are many that are not in good quality.
25:19 There are some IPO stocks that have dropped to 50% in just three days.
25:23 There are some that are directly -25% in one week.
25:28 That means the quality is doubted.
25:34 If there are many quality IPO stocks, like last year, there was a gas mining stock.
25:42 That's the point.
25:44 It can be said that it is a quality IPO.
25:46 Because since the IPO, the company has grown, the price has increased.
25:52 You're not talking about the one earlier, right?
25:56 No.
25:58 Okay, Yuda. Thank you for sharing.
26:01 I hope we can all get inspiration from you.
26:08 I don't think there is any inspiration.
26:10 If only he, if only you who often lose money, can still survive until now.
26:15 Besides the content issue.
26:17 You're being a bad example again.
26:20 I can't say anything else.
26:24 I hope you can give up. Thank you. See you again.
26:27 Thank you.
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