"Dharnay Kay Waqt Model Town Waqiye ki Wajah say Punjab Hukumat Maflooj thi" Shahid Khaqan Abbasi's Statement
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"Dharnay Kay Waqt Model Town Waqiye ki Wajah say Punjab Hukumat Maflooj thi" Shahid Khaqan Abbasi's Statement
"Dharnay Kay Waqt Model Town Waqiye ki Wajah say Punjab Hukumat Maflooj thi" Shahid Khaqan Abbasi's Statement
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00:00 I have a statement with Ahsan Iqbal that General Faiz insisted that I should be a part and parcel of this.
00:08 Ahsan Iqbal can tell you.
00:10 Can you talk to him about this?
00:12 No, I didn't ask him. I will ask him. I will inform you.
00:14 That would obviously be great.
00:16 Third thing is that the Punjab government at that time, they promised the government that they will be released after a while.
00:24 How much truth is there in this?
00:26 They didn't do anything. The Punjab government did not interfere in their work.
00:30 They did not interfere in their arrival.
00:32 In fact, they protected them from any such incident.
00:34 Before this, you should also see that the Punjab government was completely inactive at that time.
00:40 The incident of Model Town had ended the governance in Punjab.
00:44 JIT was being formed on JIT.
00:46 The police officers were being investigated.
00:48 The Minister of Law, the Minister of Higher Affairs, they were being investigated.
00:54 They did not want any such incident to happen again.
00:58 When you put obstacles, there can be a loss of life.
01:00 After this, the TLP that came out in the era of PTI, there was a lot of loss of life.
01:06 At that time, the Punjab government said that we do not want to be a part of this loss of life.
01:10 The visitors want to visit, they should go.
01:12 So the Punjab police and the government did not take any part in this whole matter.
01:18 The Islamabad police managed it all.
01:20 But the report says that the Punjab government told the government to let them come and then they will be dispersed.
01:26 Was this the case, Abbas sahib?
01:28 You were the Prime Minister, Shahbaz Sharif sahib was the Chief Minister of Punjab at that time.
01:32 I do not remember such a thing.
01:34 No one said it.
01:36 It is okay, tell one officer to another officer, no one told me.
01:38 Do you see an administrative failure, Abbas sahib?
01:41 The whole situation could have been handled better.
01:44 As the report also says that it is an administrative failure.
01:46 The report should go back 6 years and sit on the chair of the country and the situation here and then decide.
01:53 I have decided, I am responsible.
01:55 If I have made a wrong decision, then I should be prosecuted.
01:58 You are in retrospect.
02:00 I am accepting the decisions.
02:02 You think I have made a wrong decision.
02:05 I am a human being, it is possible that I have made a mistake.
02:07 If I have committed a crime, then I should be made.
02:09 It is the Supreme Court, I should be made.
02:11 If you sit in retrospect, you were the Prime Minister at that time and what decision do you take today?
02:17 I do not look back at these things.
02:19 The decision was made on the spot, we managed it without any life-threatening loss.
02:23 We managed it by keeping the order of the High Court in front and did it perfectly.
02:27 Even today?
02:28 I say the same thing.
02:30 We managed the matter, there was no life-threatening loss, this issue did not escalate, the matter was over.
02:35 At this time, General Faiz is facing an inquiry, sitting Major General,
02:41 Inter-Armed Forces, his disciplinary method,
02:45 under which the issue of top city is being discussed,
02:47 Shahid Khan Abbas, putting pressure and taking advantage,
02:51 General Faiz is coming on top of that.
02:53 You were the Prime Minister at that time, he has worked under you.
02:58 Do you think tough days have begun?
03:01 I never read into these things.
03:04 If General Faiz has broken the law, he was an army officer,
03:08 the army has a system of handling the army officers,
03:12 if there is any action being taken under it, he will have to face it,
03:16 he will decide whether he has broken the law or not.
03:19 You and I can sit and speculate.
03:20 But you can give your opinion.
03:22 Abbas, you have been the Prime Minister of Pakistan.
03:24 I have never given an opinion on such matters.
03:26 You have been the Prime Minister of Pakistan.
03:28 That is why it is my responsibility not to speculate,
03:31 especially in legal cases where a criminal action is being discussed.
03:36 You and I should not speculate on this.
03:38 But do you think it is better to put allegations on so many allegations?
03:44 This is a damning situation.
03:46 This is their institution.
03:47 The institution in which they used to work,
03:49 if the institution is doing action against them under its laws,
03:52 I do not know about this,
03:53 this has just come in the news today,
03:55 if they are doing it, then it is their work.
03:57 I have no relation with this, nor do you have any relation with this.
04:00 Now, looking at all these scenarios,
04:03 if tomorrow there is a similar situation,
04:05 and a government has to be handled,
04:07 in today's scenario,
04:09 because we do not know when the protests start and end,
04:12 then what should they do?
04:14 Should there be similar TORs or different TORs?
04:17 As a guiding comment.
04:19 Look, the commission, the history of our commissions,
04:22 I have said this in a few programs,
04:24 I was 8 years old when the Ahmaud-un-Ahmad Commission was formed.
04:29 So, the commission, before and after it was formed,
04:32 it had only one purpose, it had two purposes.
04:35 One, to save the criminals,
04:38 and to hide the crime, to hide its reality.
04:43 If you, in these cases,
04:45 all these incidents have been happening in the world,
04:47 they have kept a method,
04:48 it is called the Truth and Reconciliation Commission.
04:51 That the reality should come in front of that incident.
04:54 We do not give a punishment.
04:55 We want to know what was the reality behind it.
04:59 This is very important for our country.
05:02 Because we have so many incidents,
05:04 they are still happening.
05:06 Now, here, they are asking,
05:08 who is behind the six letters?
05:11 This is happening, right?
05:12 So, instead of wasting time on this,
05:16 because when a commission is formed,
05:18 they make decisions on the basis of evidence.
05:21 They cannot speculate.
05:23 They cannot make a decision on the basis of hearsay.
05:28 Evidence is evidence.
05:30 These incidents are not evidence.
05:32 That is why, in the world,
05:34 Truth and Reconciliation Commissions are formed.
05:36 Mr. Abbas, you have said a very important thing,
05:38 and there is a general perception about commissions,
05:40 that it is to hide the crime,
05:41 and to save the criminal.
05:43 It is not general, you can see the commissions.
05:45 Here, which crime to hide,
05:46 which criminal to save,
05:48 was formed by the commission, in your opinion?
05:50 Which crime?
05:51 This commission, you said.
05:52 I said, commissions are formed
05:54 to hide the crime,
05:56 and to save the criminal.
05:58 So, what was the crime, and who was the criminal?
06:00 This commission was formed on the orders of the Supreme Court.
06:02 I don't know what was its purpose.
06:04 You have already told us the purpose, right?
06:06 Who was it?
06:07 To hide the crime, and to save the criminal.
06:09 No, the Supreme Court did not say that.
06:10 I am saying this generally,
06:12 that commissions are formed for this purpose.
06:13 So, who is the criminal in this commission,
06:14 and who is the criminal?
06:16 I don't know.
06:17 If the criminal is me,
06:18 then it is possible that I did not handle it properly.
06:20 A woman cannot be a criminal.
06:22 You are giving this statement on live TV,
06:24 and some people are saying that this is a crime.
06:26 If I have committed a crime,
06:27 then I should be prosecuted.
06:28 I have accepted responsibility.
06:30 Whatever decisions were taken by the loyal government,
06:32 I am responsible for them.
06:34 My ancestors did not do it,
06:35 I am responsible for it.
06:36 My elders did not do it,
06:37 I am responsible for it.
06:38 That's it.
06:39 But you have just made a commitment to us,
06:41 that you will also find out from Ahsan Iqbal,
06:43 that he insisted,
06:44 that Major General Faiz Ameen,
06:46 he insisted.
06:47 That too, obviously,
06:49 we would like to have it.
06:50 Mr. Iqbal can directly ask,
06:51 I will also ask him and tell you.
06:52 Maybe he will tell you in more detail.
06:54 But now PTI is making a demand,
06:56 and that demand is that
06:58 this report,
06:59 this commission's report should be made public.
07:01 Do you agree with this?
07:03 Yes, it should be made public.
07:04 But this decision will also be made by the Supreme Court.
07:06 This is a Commission's Act,
07:09 it is written very clearly,
07:11 that you cannot make these things public.
07:13 And it should be public,
07:14 now it has become a leak.
07:16 Whatever we talk about,
07:17 we talk on the basis of leaked documents.
07:19 I would like to see,
07:21 that whether the answers I gave in that commission,
07:24 whether Man Owan is included or not.
07:26 I would like to see it myself.
07:29 And do you think that,
07:31 till today, the history of the commissions is in front of us.
07:33 How will the report of Humudur Iman Commission come in front of us,
07:36 we all know that.
07:37 Do you think that such a thing will happen,
07:39 that it should be made public?
07:40 It should be made public,
07:42 otherwise, Anika Nisar's program will continue to be a disgrace.
07:44 Your business will also continue to run.
07:46 We will also continue to be a disgrace.
07:48 But this statement is very interesting.
07:50 Your business will continue to run.
07:52 You can put all the blame on the media.
07:55 I am in the right of the media,
07:57 I come whenever they call me.
07:59 If I don't come, what would they do to me?
08:01 So I am always present.
08:03 But Abbas sahib, look at the history of the commissions.