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00:00Assalam-o-Alaikum, dear viewers, welcome to the program.
00:14Today we will talk in our program, as you know, there is only one news on the political
00:20scene in Pakistan.
00:21Is there any discussion of Pakistan's justice movement in the background, publicly or not?
00:26What is the opinion of Pakistan's justice movement?
00:29We are listening to their various statements every day.
00:31We will talk in detail.
00:33There is a wheat crisis in Punjab at the moment.
00:36Obviously, the farmers are on the streets.
00:38You saw yesterday that when the farmers tried to protest in Lahore, they were arrested.
00:45Does the Government of Punjab have a plan to take action in this regard?
00:49We have contacted the relevant minister and we hope that we will talk to him.
00:55We will know from him that what is the Government of Punjab's plan to solve this crisis?
01:02What is their plan?
01:03But today's top story, dear viewers, is the letter written by the six judges of Islamabad
01:11High Court, in which they explained that we are being pressured.
01:16This pressure is being put on us by the intelligence agency.
01:20It is being put by the executive.
01:24And they explained the situation of various incidents in their letter.
01:29Now, do you remember that letter?
01:32A commission was formed a few days ago.
01:33When the commission was formed, former Chief Justice Thasadduk Jalani was nominated.
01:41He refused.
01:42According to the letter, he is addressing the Supreme Court and the Supreme Judicial Council.
01:47He is talking about a code of conduct.
01:49He is saying that there is no way for us to pressurize a judge.
01:53How can we address him individually or as a high court?
02:00Therefore, we should be guided.
02:02So, the Supreme Court of Pakistan has taken a so-and-so notice on this.
02:07There was a hearing on the same case today.
02:10Six member benches heard this hearing today.
02:13Chief Justice Qazi Faiz-e-Islam led this case.
02:18Chief Justice Mansoor Ali Shah, Senior Criminal Judge.
02:24Justice Jamal Mandoo Khail, Justice Athar Manila, Justice Musharraf Halali, and Justice Naeem Akhtar Afghan are also members of this bench.
02:35The hearing took place today.
02:37We heard the remarks of Justice Athar Manila and Justice Mansoor Ali Shah.
02:46He is very happy.
02:48He is talking about the events that took place there.
02:52He is suggesting a solution.
02:54We have based our program on that today.
02:58First of all, we will talk about Justice Mansoor Ali Shah.
03:01He is a Senior Criminal Judge.
03:03He is going to be the Chief Justice in the future.
03:05Let's listen to what he said in his remarks.
03:10If we don't address this issue today, we are going to lose out on a lot.
03:14Why is it?
03:15Keep this phone there.
03:16Keep this phone there.
03:17Keep the phone there and talk.
03:18Don't sit in that room.
03:19Come out of that room and talk.
03:20Somebody is watching me, recording me.
03:22What is this?
03:23What sort of a culture are we running here?
03:25Is this a state?
03:27Now we have this opportunity today in this case to settle the scope and fix the matter.
03:32So we can start off with the external pressures.
03:35We can come down to internal pressures.
03:36But we have to deal with it.
03:39Justice has said that all the external and internal issues or pressures that come to our court,
03:47especially those that were raised by the 6 Judges of Islamabad High Court,
03:52we have to resolve them.
03:54And today is the opportunity to resolve them once and for all.
03:57Justice Atal Malaila, especially in reference to Justice Babar Sattar,
04:03you have seen the documents of his family on social media.
04:07They have been made public.
04:10People have been retweeted from different social media accounts.
04:15What did he say?
04:16Listen to this.
04:33The assumption and entire onus is on the state.
04:36You cannot just make a statement that it is shameful.
04:39No, sir. It is a crime, sir.
04:40Listen.
04:41It is a crime, sir.
04:42People, it is difficult in this country to speak the truth.
04:46It is a crime, sir.
04:47Those brave enough who speak the truth,
04:49there are judges we know,
04:51who are only told that your child is in such and such place.
04:54And it is the state which is doing it.
04:57And after that, Justice Atal Malaila also said that
05:02if the state stands against a judge,
05:05or if it stands against any judge,
05:07then where should that poor judge go?
05:09Can the matter be progressed in this way?
05:26The Islamabad High Court has said it is a continuing,
05:29and we all know that it is happening and it has happened.
05:47The state is to protect the judges and independence of judiciary.
05:51When it becomes the aggressor,
05:54which each High Court is saying,
05:56that is what is the issue.
05:59And it is happening.
06:00It is a phenomena that has happened for the last 76 years.
06:04And this is what each High Court is endorsing.
06:07It is happening today.
06:11After that, viewers, what is being said,
06:13the suggestions from all four High Courts are also in front of you.
06:17After that, we will start the discussion of our panel.
06:19We will also listen to the remarks of the other judges.
06:23First of all, the suggestions that have come from the Islamabad High Court,
06:26which Justice Atal Malaila is repeatedly referring to,
06:30are these.
06:31The judges of the Islamabad High Court have said,
06:34that they see the ruling of the Azhud Notice from the point of view of the state.
06:38After that, they are saying that there is no division among the judges.
06:41It is necessary to remove the impression of division among the judges.
06:45The suggestions of the Islamabad High Court judges.
06:47The judges of the Supreme Court of Justice need to be reformed in the Code of Conduct.
06:52The meetings of the members of the agencies with the judges should be completely banned.
06:57If there is any interference with any judge, he should inform immediately.
07:01For the complaint of the judges, a permanent cell has been proposed in the Supreme Court High Court.
07:07Similarly, decisions should be issued immediately on the complaints according to the law.
07:12These were the suggestions that came to us from the judges of the Islamabad High Court.
07:17After that, the judges of the Peshawar High Court also presented their suggestions in this regard,
07:24which were presented in front of the Supreme Court.
07:26The judges of the Peshawar High Court are saying that
07:30the court is a golden opportunity to talk to the government branches and decide on the method.
07:37The judges should not meet the representatives of the agencies.
07:42The entry of the representatives of the agencies should be completely banned in the judicial framework.
07:47Judges should act according to the law against the phone tapping or video recording of Ahlana.
07:54If the judges are blackmailed, they should be prosecuted.
08:01Similarly, these are all the suggestions from the judges of the Lahore High Court.
08:05After that, we saw the suggestions of the judges of the Peshawar High Court and the Balochistan High Court.
08:17Attorney General read a couplet and said that even if we say Ah, we get defamed.
08:22So these are some suggestions.
08:24Let's open the panel discussion.
08:26First of all, Mr. Chaudhary Ghulam Singh, I come to you.
08:29If we look at today's hearing in general, what does it point to?
08:38What needs to be done?
08:40And what challenges do we face?
08:45This is a very big incident in the history of Pakistan.
08:51The judges are now concerned that without interference,
08:56and from the people sitting in the offices and from the state bodies,
09:01and then the Chief Justice said that when the Chief Justice says something,
09:07that is also a kind of interference.
09:09All the interference that comes under the category of illegal should be eliminated.
09:17And if there is a case of an agency, or a ministry, or a division,
09:24or people working on a state level,
09:31then they should go to their lawyers and give their opinion.
09:36Threatening people in the dark of the night or in the light of the day,
09:42telling about their children, taking someone's brother,
09:47this matter should come to an end.
09:51And this is a very scary situation, which should be addressed.
09:55And it seems that the Supreme Court,
09:59six judges, which has now turned into eight judges,
10:05and the Punjab Lahore High Court,
10:08and the Peshawar High Court, and all the High Courts have also granted permission,
10:13then such a double-edged sword will be brought forward,
10:18that in the future, no one will do anything to threaten, threaten,
10:23or put unnecessary pressure on a judge.
10:29And some of our own people,
10:34who are going here and there, their business should also be shut down.
10:40According to the law, whoever is appointed as a judge,
10:44he has a case, he should decide on the merits.
10:49And I say again, whoever has an opinion, give it to the court.
10:55If you can't present it in court,
10:58I remember a judge, whose name I will not mention,
11:01he said, if I can't meet anyone in court, or can't listen,
11:06then why should I meet him in the chamber or at home?
11:10Absolutely right, Hassan, before going to you,
11:13let's listen to Attorney General's conversation with Justice Atar Manlal.
11:20You said in the last hearing that in 2016 and 2017,
11:24political engineering was going on.
11:27Who was in government?
11:29Who was in government?
11:31My Lord, in 2017, it was PMLN, which was in power,
11:36and in 2018 onwards it was PTI.
11:38One second, one second.
11:40So the government was helpless?
11:42That is the reality.
11:44Yes.
11:45Are you also helpless today?
11:49If you are talking about legislation,
11:51then you must acknowledge that you are helpless.
11:57Yes, Mr. Hassan Ayyub.
12:00This case is going on, and is going on,
12:03and Justice Atar Manlal has said that it is still going on.
12:06He also said, Justice Atar Manlal,
12:10that as Chief Justice of Islamabad High Court,
12:13there was no intervention during his time.
12:15Chief Justice Qazi Faisal said the same thing.
12:19Justice Mansoori Shah said the same thing.
12:21And Justice Jamal Khan Mandukhel also said the same thing.
12:24Now, I don't know if Mr. Naeem Akhtar,
12:27I think he also said the same thing,
12:29that there was no intervention.
12:31When all the judges present on the bench are saying
12:33that there was no intervention during his time,
12:35then how can they say that there was continuous intervention?
12:38Let's assume for a minute that there was an intervention.
12:41Let's assume for a minute,
12:42let's assume for a minute that the High Courts are giving suggestions
12:45that the intervention should be stopped
12:47and the freedom of the court should be ensured.
12:49Let's assume that there is no other way to ensure the freedom of the court.
12:53I mean, the court should be free.
12:55So, when Honourable Justice Atar Manlal,
12:58when Mr. Shaukat Aziz Siddiqui was dismissed,
13:02and he said that there was an intervention,
13:05during his time in the High Court,
13:07when he became Chief Justice,
13:08why didn't he raise his voice for him?
13:10Why didn't he remain silent for so long?
13:12Now, the thing is,
13:13you have become a vocal for Justice Babbar Sattar,
13:15he is your ex-colleague,
13:17you will be friends with him,
13:19you will have a good relationship with him,
13:20which should happen,
13:21you are brother judges.
13:22So, these things,
13:24your love for one person,
13:26your complete disregard for the other person,
13:28that was not appropriate.
13:29There are two mistakes.
13:30Do two wrongs make one right?
13:33Do two wrongs make one right?
13:34No.
13:35What I am saying is,
13:37The letter of 6 judges,
13:39they have written their signatures,
13:41are they lying in your opinion?
13:43They have to prove it,
13:44they are accusing.
13:45That is the Supreme Court's decision.
13:46No, they are accusing,
13:47they have not proved it yet.
13:48Today, in the courtroom,
13:50many advocates were saying,
13:52that the names of the various judges,
13:54I will not name them,
13:55the Honourable Judges were saying,
13:56that they used to meet the people of the agency.
13:58So, I told those advocates,
14:00that you are accusing the Honourable Judge.
14:03So, the thing is,
14:04if they are accusing the judge,
14:05that the judge used to allow them freely.
14:07There is a problem,
14:08there should be a solution to this.
14:09No, I am telling you,
14:10this is a matter of the former Chief Justice of the High Court.
14:12What you are saying,
14:13is a matter specific to Justice Atal Manila.
14:16That he did not do right at that time,
14:19now he is doing right,
14:20or he did wrong at that time,
14:21now he is doing right.
14:22This is an overall problem.
14:24The judge should have complete freedom
14:25to work freely and fairly.
14:27Absolutely right.
14:28But what the Chief Justice said,
14:29the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of Pakistan,
14:31said something very important.
14:32He said,
14:33that the Judges,
14:34who come to the District Judiciary,
14:37the President Bars,
14:39and close their chambers,
14:41and break them,
14:42are they not interfering in the freedom of the court?
14:44Absolutely right.
14:45This is a matter of the District Judiciary.
14:46And in the same way,
14:47let me tell you an incident of Chief Justice Atal Manila.
14:50He gave a very good decision.
14:52He said,
14:53that all the chambers in the F8,
14:56should be illegally closed,
14:58should be operated.
15:00That day,
15:01Chief Justice Atal Manila,
15:03in the High Court,
15:04was closed by the District Judiciary.
15:06And on that decision,
15:07he gave such a harsh reaction.
15:09Such a harsh reaction.
15:11Isn't that the freedom of the Judiciary?
15:13If the Judiciary has to be free,
15:15then they have to be free from the District Judiciary as well.
15:17They have to be free from all kinds of pressure.
15:19Absolutely right.
15:20Not just the pressure of the Judiciary.
15:21Justice Mando Hale,
15:22also gave remarks on this occasion.
15:24That too,
15:25I would like to tell you,
15:26before coming to you.
15:31This is not only interference.
15:32You see,
15:33since we have taken this notice,
15:35specially two of our learned members of the bench,
15:39have been targeted.
15:40This is not interference,
15:41this is a threat to judges.
15:44I would like to respond to that only.
15:45You see,
15:46It is shameful,
15:47disgusting,
15:48unacceptable,
15:49and this should be responded to.
15:50Listen,
15:51leave aside the judges of the High Court.
15:52They have filed a complaint.
15:53The complaint they have filed,
15:54the notice we have taken,
15:55what is happening to us?
15:57Can there be such independence?
15:59Have you come to a personal judgment on this?
16:03If we had come to one more judgment,
16:04what would have happened?
16:05Absolutely.
16:06If this continues,
16:07we would have come to ten more judgments.
16:09Yes, Mr. Nagish.
16:13Yes.
16:14You see,
16:15agencies interfere.
16:19And not only in Pakistan,
16:20but they do it all over the world.
16:22In India,
16:23there is a case of Babri Mosque.
16:25On that,
16:26the Chief Justice had to state that,
16:27I have been influenced,
16:28and I have to give a verdict against it.
16:30He could not give justice to millions of Muslims in India.
16:33So many people were arrested and released in the Bay of Gawanta.
16:38There was no hearing in any of their courts,
16:40because the agency of the American courts influenced them.
16:43Afia Siddiqui has been in jail for so long.
16:46Afia Siddiqui is not getting justice.
16:48The case is not going on in the courts,
16:49because the agency influences them.
16:51The agency influences them in high profile cases.
16:54I want to ask a very important question to these people.
16:56High profile cases will be only 2%, right?
16:59The rest of the 98% cases are of the common people.
17:02Who is stopping you from giving justice to them?
17:05Who is stopping you?
17:07These housing societies that are made in thousands all over Pakistan,
17:10and take the money of the common people and eat it,
17:12and do fraud with them,
17:13and sell each file to 50 people,
17:15do you know?
17:16You do not give justice.
17:18Who is stopping you?
17:19Tell me,
17:20from the one who does the business of fake medicines.
17:22Tell me,
17:23who is stopping you?
17:24You can take a so-and-so on a letter,
17:26so you can take a so-and-so on this too.
17:28Who is stopping you from taking a so-and-so on the people
17:30who are dying on the streets in the situation of law and order?
17:33Who is stopping you?
17:34You can see the interference of the agencies.
17:37These are the agencies that are protecting us in the streets,
17:38in the markets,
17:39in the streets,
17:40on the borders.
17:42And if these agencies arrest someone and bring them to you,
17:45who is involved in terrorism,
17:47then the agencies will want him to be punished.
17:49And if the agencies want him to be punished,
17:51then if they tell you anything about it,
17:52then it is the right of those agents,
17:54those agents,
17:56those soldiers,
17:57those soldiers,
17:58those policemen,
17:59because they let them go for the protection of the people.
18:01So, the agencies are interfering.
18:03What is left is the note of Babar Sattar,
18:05which you made me listen to,
18:07the note of Athar Minnalla.
18:09So, Babar Sattar himself has confessed,
18:11he has written it himself.
18:13Babar Sattar himself has written
18:15that my children have American passports.
18:17Babar Sattar himself has told me
18:19that I am doing this silver auction.
18:20Sir, what are you discussing?
18:22Babar Sattar himself has told me
18:24that I have a green card.
18:26If he is talking about it
18:28on social media or media,
18:30then what is the fun in it?
18:32He is telling this himself.
18:34One correction, Mr. Haider Naqvi,
18:36all the high courts,
18:38even the lower courts,
18:40the Supreme Court,
18:42the judge is honorable for us
18:44and the editorial policy of ARY
18:46is respectable for us.
18:47There is no doubt.
18:49Sir, please listen.
18:51The argument that was presented
18:53was that some documentary evidence
18:55is your family,
18:57private data,
18:59so please listen to the private data.
19:01Sir, Babar Sattar is a Supreme Court judge.
19:03I understood what you said.
19:05Please listen to my answer.
19:07No, no, you didn't listen to me.
19:09You didn't listen to me.
19:11You didn't listen to me.
19:13You are saying that
19:15where did his personal documents come from?
19:17Please listen to me.
19:19Yes, tell me.
19:21You are wasting your time
19:23and I am also wasting my time.
19:25You ask the question.
19:27I am saying that
19:29what was told by the Supreme Court
19:31by the honorable judge
19:33that there is a private data
19:35and the responsibility of that private data
19:37is of some institutions,
19:39so it is happening
19:41and you didn't listen to the statement
19:43of Judge Mandukheel
19:45that whatever is happening with us,
19:47whether it is of the Supreme Court
19:49or any court,
19:51you have asked a long question,
19:53you have to answer.
19:55I will not answer your question.
19:57Please listen to the judge.
20:17A private person
20:19was put on the social media.
20:21That is an intimidation.
20:23That is what affects a judge.
20:47Yes, please go ahead.
21:17You can't defame that institution.
21:19Similarly, other institutions
21:21whether it is a data-giving institution
21:23or a government institution,
21:25on the basis of negligence of an employee,
21:27you can't completely blame that institution.
21:29This will be an individual act.
21:31Whoever gave this information,
21:33this will be an individual act.
21:35To determine this,
21:37the whole matter started
21:39with 8 judges.
21:41You are saying that
21:43it is an individual act.
21:44First of all,
21:46I will come to you.
21:48You are saying that 6 judges lied
21:50and 2 judges spoke the truth.
21:523 of the 6 judges
21:54mentioned the incident.
21:563 of them did not mention any incident.
21:58According to me,
22:00they supported the institution.
22:02Is this your opinion or is this news?
22:04They did not mention anything in that letter.
22:06They did not mention any incident with them.
22:08When they did signatures,
22:10it means that if Hassan Ayub
22:11has done something wrong,
22:13then you are suspicious of him.
22:15This is very good.
22:17They will have to prove it now.
22:19You have asked for a job.
22:21Will they prove it?
22:23Of course, they will prove it.
22:25If they are asked,
22:27the Supreme Court has taken a slow motion notice.
22:29Hassan Ayub Choudhary Ghulam Sain
22:31or Hawar Gombhan will not ask them.
22:33The Supreme Court should ask them
22:35why they did this wrong.
22:37Similarly,
22:39Hawar Gombhan
22:41will not ask them.
22:43Mr. Atar Malharraj,
22:45please listen to what Mr. Atar Malharraj
22:47has to say.
22:49Whoever you attack,
22:51the army or the judges,
22:53they are not following
22:55the policy of the ARY.
22:57Please keep the program
22:59on the same level.
23:01This is the clarity.
23:03Mr. Atar Malharraj
23:05is obviously discussing
23:07this issue.
23:09He is saying that
23:11this is the reality.
23:13It's not politics.
23:15It's reality.
23:17The reality is
23:19there is no civilian supremacy.
23:22And there has never been
23:24a civilian supremacy.
23:26The constitution
23:28is merely a piece of paper.
23:30The agencies
23:32are under the control
23:34of the executive of the Prime Minister.
23:36If they are doing something,
23:38the Prime Minister
23:39and the government are responsible.
23:41How can they say
23:43the rules of business
23:45and the constitution?
23:47In my opinion,
23:49the most important remarks
23:51that will be made by our Chief Justice,
23:53Justice Mansoor Ali Shah,
23:55is that we have to
23:57rectify our homes.
23:59Until we rectify our homes,
24:01we will not strengthen it.
24:03We will not take care of
24:05our judges.
24:07What is he saying?
24:09We should empower our system.
24:11You tell me,
24:13can a civil judge write a letter
24:15to the Chief Justice
24:17and say that he was threatened?
24:19Who will empower him?
24:21He should have a system.
24:23He should have a system.
24:25That's why a system is required.
24:27A civil judge should know
24:29that if there is a problem
24:31and the judicial system
24:33is working,
24:35he will not do it.
24:37In the future,
24:39I don't want future generations
24:41to say that this bench
24:43was also complicit.
24:45If the Chief Justice
24:47does not interfere,
24:49then their matter
24:51should be taken up
24:53for misconduct.
24:55We should make our system.
24:57We are dependent on you.
24:59You didn't do anything.
25:01The legislature didn't do anything.
25:03The executive didn't do anything.
25:05We should rectify our homes.
25:06In paragraph 53 of the judgment,
25:08it was said that
25:10the previous government,
25:12the current government,
25:14and the PDM government
25:16did not legislate.
25:18The Chief Justice
25:20also talked about this.
25:22My opinion first is legislation.
25:24If the allegation is there,
25:26but there also must not be
25:28interference from within.
25:30You are not legislating.
25:32You have also withdrawn
25:34a review petition
25:36that you are doing very good.
25:38But why are you not legislating?
25:40Do you legislate?
25:42In every intelligence agency,
25:44there will be good people
25:46and bad people.
25:48Everywhere there are good and bad people.
25:50At least he will know
25:52whether he can do it or not.
25:54That is the beginning.
25:56We should start.
25:58We have to take a short break.
26:00After the break,
26:02we will stay on this story
26:04and talk.
26:06Ladies and gentlemen,
26:08this is an issue
26:10and it has been an issue
26:12for a long time.
26:14You may remember that
26:16our current Prime Minister
26:18called us.
26:20After that,
26:22the Pakistan People's Party
26:24used to criticize the government
26:26during the 1990s.
26:28This is an issue.
26:30We have to find a solution.
26:32Today, we received a message
26:34from the judges
26:36that we should legislate.
26:38The judiciary should make
26:40a new Code of Conduct.
26:42The judiciary should be free
26:44and should be non-partisan.
26:46Undoubtedly.
26:48The judiciary should not do activism.
26:50Undoubtedly.
26:52The judiciary should first
26:54reform itself
26:56and then point fingers at others.
26:58The country's current situation
27:00is very bad.
27:02Many of our judges
27:04have a record
27:06and they have their own policies.
27:08As you said,
27:10the Chief Justice
27:12brings his own policies
27:14and then everything changes.
27:16What did Mr. Saqib Nisar do
27:18to this country?
27:20He went to the court
27:22of a district judge.
27:24No, he went to his court.
27:26He is now sitting in the court.
27:28He grabbed his phone
27:30and threw it.
27:32This is the freedom of the judiciary
27:34and interference in the work of the judiciary.
27:36Now, in JIT,
27:38you include people in the agencies.
27:40Now, when you are including people
27:42in JIT,
27:44although it is not your mandate
27:46to include them,
27:48then you have your own judges.
27:50In the Judicial Commission of Pakistan,
27:52the candidates who were nominated
27:54by the government
27:56as a judge of high court
27:58used to bring reports
28:00of their agencies.
28:02Who paved the way for this?
28:04The current Chief Justice,
28:06who has been meeting him
28:08and giving reports to him.
28:10So, you have made them
28:12to some extent
28:14to interfere.
28:16What would you recommend?
28:18What can I say?
28:20I understand you.
28:22You start something
28:24and do something else.
28:26I do not understand
28:28what you are doing.
28:30Mr. Naggi,
28:32we have to go to Mr. Nisar.
28:34Please tell us
28:36what you have to say.
28:38I want to tell you a story.
28:40A woman came to the Prophet
28:42with her son
28:44and said,
28:46O Messenger of Allah,
28:48give him an order.
28:50He eats a lot of sugar.
28:52He should not eat sugar.
28:54The Prophet said,
28:56come next week.
28:58The woman said,
29:00you could have said this
29:02last week.
29:04The Prophet said,
29:06first of all,
29:08you have to give justice to others.
29:10Before asking for justice,
29:12go and see the state of the courts.
29:14The people have been going around
29:16for 20 years.
29:18The people have been crying.
29:20There is no one to ask.
29:22There are 57,000 cases pending
29:24in the Supreme Court.
29:26Let's move to our next story.
29:28Mr. Bilal Yasin from Khuraq, Punjab
29:30is with us.
29:32Let's talk to him.
29:33Mr. Bilal Yasin is the
29:35Chief Minister of Khuraq.
29:37His focus is in Punjab
29:39because he produces wheat
29:41in Punjab.
29:43Thank you very much.
29:45Mr. Bilal Yasin,
29:47can you hear me?
29:49Yes, I can hear you.
29:51All this is in front of you.
29:53I was listening to your
29:55press conference the other day.
29:57You were saying that
29:59you are supervising
30:01wheat procurement
30:03in Punjab.
30:05You are writing newspapers
30:07and programming.
30:09Punjab is a big producer
30:11of wheat.
30:13Tell me,
30:15what is the problem?
30:17Thank you.
30:19Let me tell you
30:21that there is no doubt
30:23that Punjab
30:25is the food basket
30:27of the whole of Pakistan.
30:29The crop produced
30:31by the farmers
30:33is very good.
30:35I would like to share
30:37with you that
30:3922-23 million metric tons
30:41of wheat has been harvested
30:43by the farmers.
30:45In that 22-23 million metric
30:47tons, the maximum
30:49procurement done by the
30:51Punjab Government
30:53is 4 million metric tons.
30:55The remaining
30:5798% is in the
30:59open market.
31:01Millers, seed companies
31:03and farmers keep it
31:05with them.
31:07The aim is
31:09that the price
31:11is stable
31:13and the poor
31:15get the proper
31:17price.
31:19This time,
31:21the food department
31:23is carrying forward
31:2522-23 million metric
31:27tons.
31:29The reason for
31:31this is that
31:33the Prime Minister
31:35has taken a notice
31:37and I have also
31:39appraised the Punjab
31:41Assembly House.
31:43Let me tell you
31:45that a committee
31:47has been
31:49constituted
31:51and the members
31:53of the federal
31:55public service
31:57commission
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32:05committee
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