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00:00 We will talk about this in the first part of the program. Rana Sinhaullah is with us.

00:04 He is talking about grand dialogue. Today Bilawal Bhutto said that if politicians sit and talk,

00:08 then only the way will come out of the parliament. But how is this possible?

00:12 Because if we take this first from Rana Sahab about Tehreek-e-Insaf.

00:17 Rauf Hassan Sahab was in my program. He said that you are not offering this on the ima of your community.

00:23 You are offering this on the ima of the establishment. This is a matter of discussion.

00:27 Is this right? Is this impression correct that you are talking about grand dialogue on behalf of them?

00:33 Yes, absolutely. This is wrong. I am talking on the ima of my community and my leader.

00:47 On 21st October, at Mirar-e-Pakistan, there was a very big gathering.

00:57 I think it was an unprecedented gathering in Lahore.

01:02 Mian Nawaz Sharif said this in that address, in that general meeting, in front of the whole community.

01:14 And every person has heard this. He said that it is the culmination of my 40 years of political life

01:23 that the country is in a situation where it has fallen and we are in a difficult situation.

01:31 There is only one solution to this. That we all sit together.

01:36 So if you don't say grand dialogue, then what else will you say to sit together?

01:43 And by 'we all' I mean everyone.

01:46 But we have seen the establishment's policy. Two days ago, there was a press release, a statement, a press conference.

01:57 There, this desire is not being expressed. So the establishment has responded.

02:02 Are you still optimistic that the discussion will be won?

02:06 No, people are confusing this. Look, whatever this dialogue will be, first of all, the political parties should sit together.

02:17 The political parties should talk to each other.

02:20 After that, the issues of the institutions will be discussed.

02:25 To some extent, it will be of one institution, to some extent, it will be of another institution.

02:29 Now, if you want to solve the issues on the judicial side, then what do you think?

02:35 That you will not talk to them? You will not trust them?

02:39 So this is a later thing. First of all, the political parties, the politicians should sit together.

02:46 So this is the matter of Pakistan Muslim League.

02:50 Before going to the elections, this was our resolve, you can say it was a part of our manifesto.

03:01 That we will remove the country from this situation.

03:06 And the political order that is needed for it, that political order will come from the government.

03:13 Sir, but how much authority do you have?

03:15 Government is the foundation of democracy.

03:17 Yes, yes, this question is also asked that how much authority does the government have at the moment?

03:21 How much say is there? Are your decisions in your hands?

03:25 This is why Tehreek-e-Insaf says that we do not want to talk to you.

03:31 No, Tehreek-e-Insaf is because Imran Khan has been, since October 2011,

03:42 since he has received some importance or recognition.

03:47 How he received it, that is a different question.

03:50 Who gave it to him, that too should be remembered a little bit, how he received it.

03:56 Anyway, since that time, he has been saying the same thing that I will not sit with anyone,

04:05 nor will I talk to anyone, nor will I sit with anyone and settle the matters.

04:11 So in democratic attitudes, there is no connection to this.

04:18 If a person says in the parliamentary democratic system that I am with the opposition

04:25 and if I am in opposition, then I will neither talk to the government nor will I sit with it,

04:29 then how can the matter move forward?

04:32 But he is sitting with some people. For example, your former ally, Sir, your former ally, Mr. Achik Zahir.

04:39 Look at their condition. Forget the former allies, look at their condition.

04:45 On one hand, they say that we have stolen their mandate.

04:51 And on the other hand, they say that they have no authority.

04:59 When we have no authority, when we are not capable of anything, then how did we steal your mandate?

05:06 But what you are saying, Mr. Rana, that they are not ready to talk to anyone.

05:11 They say that the establishment is ready to talk to us.

05:15 So they are accused of stealing our mandate.

05:20 I have asked this question to Mr. Tariq-e-Insaaf.

05:22 They are ready to talk to them, but not to us.

05:24 I ask this question to Mr. Tariq-e-Insaaf again and again.

05:26 And I am not satisfied with his answer, at least personally.

05:30 But anyway, you ask him one more thing.

05:33 Ask him if it is possible to talk for the chairmanship of PAC.

05:39 Is it possible to talk to set the agenda in the assembly?

05:44 So why can't we talk for Pakistan?

05:47 But they are talking to some people, Mr. Rana.

05:49 For example, they have talked to Mr. Achak Zahid.

05:51 He is in alliance with them.

05:53 Mr. Mengal, your former ally, is in alliance with them.

05:56 They are talking to Maulana Fazlur Rehman.

05:58 Maybe they should also join the alliance or not.

06:01 If you want to start a grand dialogue, then you can also start with your former allies.

06:06 You can also extend your hand to them.

06:09 You won't be able to shake their hand.

06:11 We have always talked to them.

06:18 We will continue to do so.

06:21 They are not the kind of people who will say that we won't talk.

06:26 They are the kind of people who believe in dialogue.

06:31 But the real problem is with them.

06:34 Sometimes they agree to talk to us.

06:39 Sometimes they agree to talk to the establishment.

06:43 They don't even know that we have stolen their mandate.

06:49 Sometimes they say that the establishment has stolen it.

06:52 But if the establishment hadn't taken them to the streets, they would have remained the same.

07:06 But Mr. Rana, what you are saying is that Maulana Fazlur Rehman is talking to Mr. Tariq-e-Insaf.

07:13 Mr. Achak Zahid is talking to Mr. Tariq-e-Insaf.

07:15 He is not talking to you.

07:16 You are not talking to him.

07:17 He is on the other side of the line.

07:19 He is your former ally.

07:22 You are not able to convince him that there should be a direct dialogue.

07:25 No, he is convinced.

07:29 Have you had any contact with these communities?

07:33 Have you started a conversation?

07:35 Because he is in that alliance, the government-opposing alliance.

07:39 It is not appropriate to do some things before the time.

07:45 But the thing is that if politics and democracy want to move forward in this country,

07:57 then the democratic attitudes and methods will have to be followed.

08:03 The attitudes that a party has adopted cannot move the democracy forward in this country.

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