Khabar - Justice Sattar raises allegations of judicial interference - Meher Bukhari's Report
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00:00 After the letter of 6 judges, Justice Babar Sattar has claimed that he has been given a message from the top officials of the security establishment to step back.
00:11 But in a knee jerk reaction, the government has clearly denied the claim of Justice Babar Sattar.
00:18 The Attorney General has claimed that the security establishment has not given any such message to Judge Babar Sattar.
00:31 Whether it is a complaint of interference in the letter of 6 judges or a complaint of the government in the letter of Justice Babar Sattar, the time to write the letter of the judges is questionable and the questions on the conduct of the judges are a big question.
00:48 In the letter of Justice Babar Sattar, the Chief Justice of Islamabad High Court has revealed that he has received a message from the top officials of the security establishment to step back.
01:00 He has been told to step back from the investigation of the system and procedure of surveillance of the citizens.
01:07 Babar Sattar has written further in the letter that he has not paid any attention to such threatening messages and has not felt that such messages are a threat to the justice system.
01:18 In the letter of Justice Babar Sattar, it has been written that in the case of Audio Leaks, the court was faced with the question that is there any legal system that allows the surveillance of the citizens?
01:28 In response to this question, the court issued a notice to the heads of the intelligence and investigators, along with the ISI, IB, FIA, and other legal regulators like PTA and PEMRA.
01:41 According to Justice Babar Sattar, the focus of the campaign on malice in the PTA-related cases seems to be a threat to the judicial proceedings.
01:51 This part of Justice Babar Sattar's letter is also going viral on social media.
01:57 After this claim of Babar Sattar's came to the public, the Attorney General often refuted it and said that no such message was given from the security establishment.
02:07 Please pay attention to the text of that letter, what has he said that he was a threat to justice?
02:16 According to my information, no security establishment officer has made any direct contact and neither can they do it.
02:27 So that contact was through the Attorney General's office and it was to the extent that such sensitive information should be encameraded.
02:37 The late Justice Nazir Tarrar and Justice Atta Tarrar have also refuted the claim of interference in the court, saying that no one has asked Justice Babar Sattar to step back.
02:48 An impression was created that as there is interference in the court, the position of the government and the institutions is that the independent court takes the country forward.
03:00 But there are some responsibilities, so all institutions should have some space for each other.
03:06 We should work in our own compartments.
03:09 You write letters, but you meet people at wedding ceremonies, you meet diplomats, your social circle is very wide.
03:16 We as public rep publish all our travel documents, there is scrutiny.
03:21 So see, don't take this matter so far, so writing a letter to the Chief Justice of one court, which is your daily meeting, I understand that this is a controversial issue.
03:32 And no one gave this message that you should step back, only the in-camera briefing was said.
03:37 The government is clearly taking a position, to put pressure on the court and the interference of institutions in the court. These complaints have been made by the six judges of this High Court, from the Chief Justice of Pakistan.
03:50 Justice Babar Sattar is among those six judges who have previously complained about the interference of institutions in the court.
03:57 And the country's largest court, the Supreme Court, is signing off on this matter.
04:01 On May 7, during the court hearing, Justice Atar Minalla also admitted that the interference in the court is a fact.
04:08 In the previous hearing, the Chief Justice of Pakistan and Justice Atar Minalla also had a strong dialogue on this matter.
04:15 Justice Atar Minalla said that for the past 74 years, lies have been spoken in this country. Why are we afraid? Why don't we speak the truth? We should admit the fact of interference in the court.
04:25 On Justice Atar Minalla's remarks, Chief Justice Qazi Faiz Isa has passed a remark that if someone thinks that the judges are doing a joint hearing, then they should not sit here, but should go home.
04:36 On this, Justice Atar Minalla said to the Chief Justice that is it only me saying this, or is it not me, but Tony General also has to say that the judges were together.
04:46 We will remember that from this court, JITs were formed, monitoring judges were appointed, who were in opposition to Article 203.
04:58 And then after that, whatever happened in 2017 and 2021, is in front of everyone. I don't want to talk about it anymore.
05:07 But I do want to remind you that on one hand, there is freedom of justice, which is the fundamental pillar of the constitution. But on the other hand, there is also the credibility of the executive, which is also at stake.
05:19 When you move forward on this issue, and should move forward, you should also keep in mind that there is a specific thing in this that there is a continuing policy of the federal government. I reject that. I deny that. I also deny that the trustee has also done it.
05:37 You told in the last hearing that in 2016 and 2017, political engineering was being done. Who was in government?
05:48 In 2017, it was PMLN, which was in power. In 2018, it was PTI.
05:56 So the government was helpless? That is the reality.
06:01 Yes.
06:02 At this time, Justice Jamal Khan Mandukhel also admitted that there are no two opinions on the matter of interference in justice.
06:09 No, first of all, the political parties want justice to be used for them. On this, Justice Atam Minhalla admitted that if there was a political party that took advantage of justice in 2018, then today there is another political party.
06:21 There has been a history of interference and pressure in justice.
06:24 Viewers, from the controversial statements of Justice Naseem Hassan Shah to the audio leaks of Justice Qayyum, or the questions raised by politicians on Justice Khosa Saab, Justice Bandeyal and Justice Shaukat Aziz Siddiqui, these same political people have been objecting to the conduct of those judges.
06:39 In this history of the freedom of the court, the objections of Justice Sajjad Ali Shah also testify to the fact that there has been pressure and pressure and pressure on this freedom and this independent institution in every era.
06:53 Mr. Nawaz Sharif also wants his favorite judge.
06:56 Sir, please tell us which important documents were in the briefcase that we heard about. You are also saying today.
07:02 They were not important documents, but pictures of the parliament.
07:05 If you want to hear this, everyone says it in our face. Everybody says.
07:11 Documents are presented in the court.
07:14 During the closure of the Panama case, the special personality of the court also has a record of heat.
07:19 But today, the government and the Attorney General are denying the claims of Justice Babar Sattar and the judges have been given the impression of misconduct for the past few weeks.
07:30 I want to know your opinion. Does this letter not constitute the misconduct of the judges? What is your opinion?
07:38 Is this a misconduct or not? I am sitting as a government representative in today's press conference and I will refuse to answer this question as the Minister of Justice.
07:46 I think the answer to this question should also come from the commission. And we leave this matter to the court whether it is a misconduct or not, whether they understand it or not.
07:55 It should have been that the Minister of Justice is not misconducting. This is their right.
08:01 It should have been that the Attorney General would have taken a stand on this. But this did not happen. The impression that is being given again and again is not hidden from anyone.
08:10 In addition to the claim of receiving the message of Justice Babar Sattar, a propaganda campaign is going on on social media under a scheme against Justice Babar Sattar.
08:18 On May 6, Justice Babar Sattar said in his letter that his and his family's secret information was leaked on the social media campaign.
08:25 On April 28, the Islamabad High Court issued a statement on Justice Babar Sattar's green card, children's American citizenship, American property and family business.
08:38 In this statement, it was said that Justice Babar Sattar has no citizenship in any other country except Pakistan.
08:45 Babar Sattar left his American job and came to Pakistan and the Chief Justice of that time was aware of Justice Babar Sattar's green card.
08:52 It was also said that a campaign against Justice Babar Sattar is going on on social media.
08:59 The Chief Justice of the Islamabad High Court changed Justice Babar Sattar's letter to a request and decided to investigate the case.
09:06 And today, in this case, the High Court has issued notices to the Attorney General of Pakistan, FIA, IB, ISI and PEMRA for leaking the secret information of Justice Babar Sattar's family.
09:17 During the session of the larger bench, Justice Mohsin Akhtar Qayani said that we will notify all the institutions and get the report.
09:24 Now, no one has the courage to approach the judge.
09:28 Justice Mohsin Akhtar Qayani further said that the most disturbing thing is that the judge's secret information has been leaked.
09:35 Either the accounts of the state institutions have been hacked or the state institutions have leaked this information.
09:40 Justice Mohsin Akhtar Qayani said that we have to look at the character of ISI, IB and PTA.
09:47 It is not possible that all this can be done on social media or print or electronic media.
09:52 It is very easy to say that it is fifth generation warfare.
09:56 If anyone tries to approach, then the court will take action up to the High Office.
10:00 This is the most important matter of intervention in court matters.
10:03 New revelations are raising questions on the seriousness of this matter, the freedom of the court and the government intention.