Dr Steve McCabe with insight on the recent pledges made by Sir Kier Starmer and Rishi Sunak.
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00:00 Well, the view is that they're not exactly particularly ambitious.
00:06 There's nothing that would say that this is about a radical and socialist Labour government.
00:12 And indeed, the criticism of Stalmer is that compared to when he became leader in the aftermath
00:19 of the election in 2019, the December election, so of course this was very early on in 2020,
00:28 and of course we're then into the midst of the pandemic, his promises then was essentially
00:32 to very largely to continue the radical policies that had been set out by a certain Jeremy
00:40 Corbyn.
00:41 And of course, he is no longer a member of the Labour Party and won't be allowed to stand
00:44 at the next election.
00:45 So I think what we've got here is a combination of distancing yourself from some of the promises
00:50 that got him into power in the first place, or sort of become leader of the Labour Party.
00:55 And as of course, the prospect of sort of power becomes even closer, is not to sort
01:00 of to over promise and then be accused of under delivering.
01:03 So I suspect that there's a lot of sort of careful management going on here.
01:06 What I would say is that sort of whoever wins the next election is going to be faced with,
01:11 I suspect, the sort of the greatest set of economic and social challenges for a generation.
01:17 Whoever's elected later on this year, five years down the line, ending upon the majority,
01:22 it could be sort of even sooner than that if they sort of get a much slimmer majority,
01:26 which of course is the objective of the Conservative Party.
01:28 They will then have to face the sort of the voters and to sort of to account for their
01:32 actions.
01:33 And if people don't feel better, they're very keen to sort of to try something else.
01:37 So the difficulty is that politics aside, because it's always about politics, people
01:43 do want change and they want to feel better.
01:46 So I suspect that if Keir Starmer is indeed the sort of the next prime minister by the
01:51 end of this year, he's got a lot of work to do to sort of to make people feel, as I say,
01:57 that their prospects are going to improve in the next five years.