"Maulana Fazal Ur Rehman kay Sath Muamlat final stages Hain" PTI Leader Rauf Hassan's Reveals
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"Maulana Fazal Ur Rehman kay Sath Muamlat final stages Hain" PTI Leader Rauf Hassan's Reveals
"Maulana Fazal Ur Rehman kay Sath Muamlat final stages Hain" PTI Leader Rauf Hassan's Reveals
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00:00You have had the most important contact with the JUI FA, Moulana Fazlur Rahman.
00:05Is this the last stage?
00:07Yes, I can confirm that this is the last stage.
00:11Will the movement continue together?
00:14I have never expected this.
00:16I spoke to Asad Qais. I was invited to that meeting.
00:20In fact, he said that he has to do 2-3 programs.
00:23I will talk to him in the evening.
00:25But my understanding is that something constructive and positive is expected out of this meeting.
00:32Sir, will you go hand in hand with the protest politics?
00:37Because the whole point is to protest together.
00:40Mr. Moulana has a lot of street power. He also has PTI.
00:43There will definitely be confidence building measures.
00:46He says that my winning seat has been stolen.
00:52For instance, he wants to lead the protest rallies.
00:56Do you know anything about this?
01:00I don't think that the party will have any objection.
01:03Because Mr. Mahmood Khan is leading all these platforms.
01:06So he will also be a part of this.
01:08Mr. Mahmood Khan is a very reasonable person.
01:10If Mr. Moulana wants to play a dominant role from event to event,
01:17then I don't think there will be any problem.
01:19I don't think there will be any resistance from our side.
01:22Mr. Khan has also given a call to all the people to come to Manzar-e-Aam.
01:26Today, Hamad and Murad Saeed have also come.
01:30I don't know. I am not privy to it.
01:32But it is his call. He is absolutely right.
01:36So he is angry?
01:38He is very angry today.
01:39As I said, 10-12 people came after meeting him.
01:42They said that they have never seen Mr. Khan so angry as he is now.
01:45So you are going to stop the streets?
01:47Looks like it.
01:48With Mr. Moulana?
01:49Looks like it.
01:51Do you have a pre-budget or post-budget timeline in mind?
01:54No.
01:55Our Jalsas have been postponed for two months because we are not getting permission.
01:59Now we are in the courts of law.
02:00So I have been told that the Jalsa in Faisalabad will be approved by the end of the week.
02:04The court will approve it.
02:05After that, the Jalsa in Karachi will also be held.
02:07So the movement will start.
02:09The movement will start.
02:10And on 30th, there is the NAB Terminal Bill.
02:14Mr. Imran Khan himself wants to present it.
02:17Physically, he wants to appear over there.
02:19It was not broadcasted live.
02:21There was no video link.
02:23Do you hope that you will be allowed to come?
02:27If the Chief Justice takes this matter to the court and takes a decision from there,
02:34then it becomes my hope.
02:35I think the judges have realized that they do not want to take a discriminatory attitude.
02:40But if the Chief Justice takes this judgment,
02:44then on the basis of their conduct so far,
02:47I will say that I do not want to go.
02:49I will be very honest with you.
02:51So it all depends on who is allowed to go.
02:55Yes, who is allowed to go.
02:56Do you think it is necessary for him to go there?
02:58I think he has been imprisoned for nine months.
03:00We cannot hear his voice.
03:02Let him come.
03:03Let him talk.
03:04Let him listen.
03:05Let people listen.
03:06Let him listen.
03:07Maybe it will make a difference.
03:08At the end of the day, Mr. Khan is a voice of peace.
03:12After his suffering, he expresses his emotions in strong words.
03:20It is a fact. I will not deny it.
03:23But basically, at the end of the day, he wants the best for the country.
03:26He wants the best for this country.
03:28And for that country, he has devoted his youth.
03:31He has nothing.
03:32There is nothing outside this country.
03:34As you know, Shaukat Khan is also a trustee.
03:36He will also go.
03:37You have repeatedly emphasized the inevitability of talks.
03:42And now you see that Mr. Tehreek-e-Insaad's Sadr Parvez Ilahi has come out.
03:46Hamad Azhar has also come.
03:48Before the arrest, he will also take his bail.
03:50Let's see what happens.
03:51Today, it was published.
03:52Yes, it was published.
03:53They have done a very bad thing.
03:55More than 100 people have come to the police.
03:56The delegation of the United Nations was sitting there.
03:59I came with them.
04:00Some people had come to me.
04:02I got up from there.
04:03I came out after giving my statement to them.
04:06Some people were sitting there.
04:08Mr. Khan's sisters and other people were also there.
04:10I was sitting with them.
04:11I came to know that the police had come.
04:13They had blocked the entire house.
04:15No traffic out and no traffic in.
04:18And after that, without a search warrant,
04:21one of our men asked him at the reception that
04:23do you have a search warrant?
04:24He said, I don't need a search warrant.
04:27He introduced himself as, I think, CCPO.
04:29But Hamad had left by then.
04:33Yes, Hamad had left by then.
04:34He came and sat with me for just two minutes.
04:36He said, Rahul bhai, I have come to see your situation.
04:38Just two minutes.
04:39And left.
04:40And after that, they searched the rooms from room to room.
04:46And after that, they went to the room where
04:48our meeting was taking place with the United Nations.
04:50Mr. Gauhar was sitting there.
04:51Other people were also sitting there.
04:53The senior leadership of the party.
04:54I had come from there.
04:55They called Mr. Gauhar there and said,
04:57come out, we want to talk to you.
04:59Mr. Gauhar came.
05:00Mr. Gauhar talked to him for 3-4 minutes.
05:02Then he left.
05:03He stayed there.
05:04But then I went in with a couple of people.
05:06Ms. Alima was with me.
05:08So we said, well, here is a practical demonstration
05:11of what has been happening to us.
05:13I was very candid and blunt with them.
05:15So we told them.
05:16They were shocked.
05:17And then, the lady police also came.
05:19After the search, when they started going in their cars,
05:22they blocked us.
05:23They said, we won't let you go.
05:24Then some people intervened.
05:26They said, okay, we will let you go.
05:28Now search everything.
05:29So they were asked to disembark the cars.
05:32And then they searched the cars.
05:33And then they were allowed to go.
05:35A sad, sad thing to do.
05:37Has there been any progress on the negotiations?
05:40Because internally, when I last spoke to you,
05:42there was an internal discussion
05:44that the political parties should be reached out in Phase 1.
05:46And the same, the same emotions were there.
05:49Has there been any progress on that?
05:50No, look, I think there has been a lot of progress with Mr. Maulana.
05:54So the progress has been towards pro-politics,
05:57not towards negotiating politics.
05:59On the other hand, they will have to sort of, you know,
06:02as I said earlier in your program,
06:04that if they are serious about this issue,
06:06then they should come to vacate their stolen mandate.
06:11The chairman of the Public Accounts Committee
06:13is also leaving your hands now.
06:15Voting is going on for the first time in history, sir.
06:18You know that there are a lot of Treasury Benches inside.
06:22They will find a way.
06:24They won't give it.
06:26So for the first time, the chairman of the Public Accounts Committee
06:28will be auditing the government's accounts.
06:30That doesn't make any sense.
06:31You have set a tradition.
06:33So maintain it.
06:34Maintain something.
06:35If you don't do it, then it's a matter of shame.
06:36There will be a protest.
06:37But anyway, this is for sure,
06:38that since the last few days,
06:40there has been progress towards pro-politics,
06:42not towards negotiating politics.
06:44You are right.
06:45Absolutely right.
06:46Absolutely right.
06:47Especially after today's meeting,
06:48this thing has come out very openly.
06:50The information we have received from Mr. Khan,
06:54on that basis, I can say exactly what you have said.
06:57That his back should be bent and he should come to the streets.
06:59Let's see what happens.
07:00Let's see what happens.
07:01As I said, I am meeting him tomorrow.
07:04May Allah keep you in His protection.
07:06I wish you the best of luck.
07:07I am so grateful to have you.
07:08Please be safe.
07:09Thank you.