Trying Star Rafe Spall revealed that he will be feeding his unborn child with partner and co-star Esther Smith cold fish fingers. The pair also discussed which celebrities they would like to star in a Trying spin-off. Report by Bangurak. Like us on Facebook at http://www.facebook.com/itn and follow us on Twitter at http://twitter.com/itn
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00:00 She only tells me off sometimes.
00:01 With our new baby, in a few years time, she will be eating fish fingers
00:07 and you yourself will discover the great joy of a cold fish finger.
00:11 You two, I was chatting to you in Trends 21, lockdown.
00:14 I remember that.
00:15 On Zoom, and you two are the cutest thing ever, how things have changed.
00:20 Yes.
00:20 I'm so happy for you both.
00:22 Thank you.
00:24 It's lovely, isn't it?
00:26 Yeah, she's got something going on here.
00:28 Yeah.
00:29 Big, great, big breakfast.
00:30 Yeah, that was my full English.
00:32 Yeah, yeah.
00:33 Series 4 trying, did you think in Series 1, 2021, on Zoom,
00:37 you'd be here right now, Series 4, with a bun in the oven?
00:40 Certainly, certainly not.
00:42 No, life has changed in many ways that one could definitely never have forecast.
00:49 And yeah, you know, it's quite rare this day and age to do four seasons of a show.
00:56 And it means that people must like it.
00:57 People must watch it.
00:58 And it's just really gratifying to use a very trite phrase,
01:04 to be able to do a show that we love, that we care about,
01:07 that resonates with audiences is terrific.
01:10 Would you say it's a bit Black Mirror-esque, that we're seeing it all come round in circles,
01:15 and it's now reality, or that sort of thing?
01:18 Well, yeah, it's just, you know, it's really lovely to, you know,
01:25 we're together now, and we were when we shot this last season.
01:31 And it's been really lovely just to hang out with the person
01:37 that you most like hanging out with.
01:39 Yeah, luckily we get on.
01:41 And you've got a t-shirt.
01:42 She only tells me off sometimes.
01:46 I know.
01:46 Did you say don't work with pets, animals, kids, and other half?
01:52 Is that the other thing?
01:53 Well, we've got everything. That means we've ticked every box.
01:55 Yeah, we haven't worked with pets yet, though.
01:58 Have we not?
01:59 No, we've never had an animal.
02:01 Haven't we?
02:02 So many actors.
02:06 So many actors don't know where the toilet is.
02:08 Yeah, it's weird when you see them.
02:09 Olly Chris isn't house trained.
02:13 He's not. He needs to sort that out.
02:15 Series five, perhaps a little cockapoo?
02:17 Maybe a little dog.
02:18 Yeah, that's a good idea.
02:20 Maybe I'll bring my dog on set.
02:21 No.
02:22 No, he won't be here.
02:23 But it is the OG British show on Apple.
02:25 Yes, it is.
02:26 Yeah.
02:26 It's a big plus, right? Which is amazing.
02:28 Yeah.
02:29 It's incredible.
02:29 Yeah.
02:30 And kind of, I feel hilariously territorial over it.
02:34 It's true.
02:35 So when we, so Jay Hunt, who runs Apple Europe,
02:40 we were one of our first commissions.
02:41 I think we were our first, let's say non-fiction?
02:46 Yeah.
02:47 Commission.
02:48 And when we first started, it was just Jay and her partner,
02:52 Jo, who works with her, working at Apple.
02:54 And now it's become huge.
02:55 And we feel a bit like when we first started, it was just us.
02:58 Yeah.
02:59 And yeah.
03:00 And then you feel like this kind of older sibling
03:02 and all these other kind of new little kind of siblings
03:05 have come into the play pit.
03:07 Yeah.
03:07 And you're like, oh.
03:08 No, this is our party.
03:11 No, it's amazing.
03:12 We're so lucky to be on this network
03:14 because they support us and they're fantastic.
03:16 It is going to be a trying spin off.
03:18 And you can choose another celeb couple.
03:20 Who do you reckon in it?
03:23 Oh my gosh.
03:24 Dave and Vic Beckham.
03:25 Oh yeah.
03:25 I reckon Dave and Vic.
03:31 Yeah.
03:32 Who else?
03:33 Penelope Cruz and Javier Bardem.
03:35 Yeah, get them in.
03:37 That'd be a laugh.
03:37 Ryan Gosling and--
03:41 Eva Mendes.
03:42 Eva Mendes.
03:43 Yeah.
03:46 Who else?
03:46 You're giving Apple some ideas here.
03:48 Yeah.
03:48 I don't know.
03:49 I'm trying to think.
03:50 Oh.
03:50 Someone off "Married at First Sight."
03:56 Yeah.
03:58 The Australian version.
03:59 Jack and Tori.
04:00 Let's see what's really going on there, shall we?
04:02 I'd love to know what's really going on.
04:03 Let's see what's really going on with Jack and Tori.
04:05 Their Instagram's popping off.
04:06 So I'm assuming they're still together.
04:08 I think they know they are still together.
04:10 Yeah.
04:10 Don't buy it.
04:11 And the last time you spoke, by the way, in 2021,
04:13 you were saying about your love for a cold fish finger.
04:15 Yes.
04:16 Is that still a thing?
04:17 Do you often have them together?
04:19 Well, I'll tell you what.
04:20 The reason I eat cold fish fingers
04:22 is because I would mop up my kids' leftover cold fish
04:25 fingers.
04:25 They've gone beyond the--
04:27 they're more into lobster--
04:29 "Thobster"?
04:30 "Thobster."
04:31 Lobster, Thermidor, and duck a la ranch.
04:33 They're a lot grander in their taste now.
04:35 So they love "Thobster."
04:37 But with our new baby, in a few years' time,
04:40 she will be eating fish fingers.
04:43 And you yourself will discover the great joy
04:47 of a cold fish finger.
04:48 No, but I can fully appreciate that now
04:50 without even having to go into that.
04:52 Yeah.
04:53 Especially when they're congealing a bit hard.
04:54 Yeah, they're congealing hard.
04:56 They're almost better that way.
04:58 And just finally, guys, what's different from--
05:00 I know we've jumped forward six years.
05:02 What's the message?
05:04 Why should you watch "Trying Series 4"?
05:07 I think it's more of the same, of a message of,
05:10 in difficult, hard circumstances,
05:12 there's always hope and there's always light and family.
05:16 Whatever that looks like to you is the most important.
05:22 Human connection.
05:23 Human connection.
05:23 It's a story about good people trying to be good.
05:26 There's no baddies in this show.
05:28 They're just decent and they love each other.
05:31 And it's representative of the idea
05:33 that it takes a village to raise a kid.
05:36 Also, Jim Broadbent's in it.
05:39 So we've got an Oscar winner.
05:40 You danced with him.
05:41 I danced with him.
05:42 Yeah, danced with him.
05:43 And also--
05:43 Yeah, no big deal.
05:44 --Jack and Tori from "Married at First Sight" are in it.
05:47 No, they're not.
05:48 Are they not?
05:48 No, they're not.
05:49 And it's my team.
05:52 Thank you so much.
05:53 And the best thing about "Trying"
05:54 is that you're together, which I am so happy about.
05:56 Thank you, Zoe.