Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez continue to put on a united front -- now holding hands in public again ... but things still appear really tense in their relationship, at least at first glance.
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00:00We're going to show you two images that do not align involving Jen and Ben.
00:06The first image seems like maybe they are figuring out some way of reconciling because
00:13clearly there's a problem.
00:14That is Ben and Jen at Ben's daughter's, Violet's graduation.
00:21And they're holding hands.
00:23First PDA that we have seen, I can't even remember, in months, Harvey.
00:26In months.
00:27In months.
00:28And look, I mean, as you know, they clearly have separated.
00:32Ben is now living in Brentwood and she is at the home in Beverly Hills.
00:38So this seems to be a sign that, well, they're holding hands.
00:42Maybe they've fixed things.
00:44Now we do know that they went back to one of their homes and they left separately.
00:51So whatever was going on here, they're still living apart.
00:56But you'll see them holding hands and you're thinking, well, maybe.
00:59Yeah.
01:00Well, now the next picture, and this is the one that doesn't align.
01:03This is a moving van outside of the house that Ben is renting in Brentwood.
01:09So you wouldn't think he's moving stuff out of the house because he just moved into the
01:15house.
01:16Right.
01:17So now the question is, was he moving things out of the Beverly Hills house that he had
01:21shared with J-Lo and moving his stuff into the Brentwood house?
01:27If that's the case, that would seem like a bigger indication that this marriage is effectively
01:31over.
01:32Holding hands is great.
01:33Maybe they did it for the kids.
01:34Yeah.
01:35If you're moving your stuff out of the home that you all just bought together last year,
01:41not a good sign.
01:42Doing it for the kids is also not a good sign because if you're holding hands but your marriage
01:45is completely in turmoil and you've got moving vans and you're moving things out, you need
01:50to not confuse the kids.
01:51And by holding hands and doing things publicly and going out on these family dates, it's
01:55totally confusing to these kids.
01:56And we've already known that these kids are close.
01:58They're saying that the troublesome marriage is troubling to them.
02:03So if they're going to get a divorce, if they're going to separate, then I feel like they need
02:06to do it clean because their kids are at an age where it is going to affect them.
02:09And these mixed signs and these mixed emotions aren't helping anyone.
02:12Well, and it's also, look, I mean, you talk to psychologists and they'll tell you about
02:16this.
02:17But, you know, anybody watching who has, you know, who is a child of divorce or you
02:22are divorced and you have children, you know that it's traumatic on a lot of kids.
02:27And what's particularly difficult here, I think, is that when you look at it, you know,
02:33Ben divorced Jennifer Garner.
02:36So that was the divorce that they had.
02:39J-Lo was with Alex Rodriguez for years and it looked like they were going to get married.
02:46They were engaged and that fell apart.
02:48And then these two came together.
02:50So these kids have seen that kind of union and then separation multiple times.
02:56And they always seem like very serious relationships, Harvey.
02:59It's never casual dating.
03:00But they got married.
03:01Exactly.
03:02Like you said, J-Lo and A-Rod, they were going to get married.
03:04So it always seems very serious.
03:06I do think they have made an effort to try and keep it together.
03:09We saw them at one of the dance recitals a couple of weeks ago, not holding hands, but
03:12together.
03:13That's not necessarily even an effort to keep it together.
03:16That's just something that you do for the family.
03:18For the kids.
03:19And so they're in a tough spot.
03:21I mean, they're in a tough spot because for the kids, they're kind of seesawed back and
03:24forth, not just with one divorce, but they've got multiple separations going on.
03:28You almost think it might just be better to rip the Band-Aid off and if it's not going
03:31to work and if the marriage is over, just tell the kids that you saw them.
03:35And maybe they have.
03:36Is there in any world where this house that Ben has that he's moved into on Brentwood
03:41could just be like a little side house for whenever he needs a break or for whenever
03:44he just needs to like kind of detox and relax?
03:47I know they have a big house in Beverly Hills, but since they're holding hands, since they're
03:50still putting on this family front, is there any chance this is just like a getaway house?
03:55I can answer that.
03:56No.
03:57No.
03:58Right.
03:59It's not like they've got a studio apartment.
04:00No.
04:01No.
04:02We know that, look, I mean, they're having real problems and he has moved out of the
04:06Beverly Hills house.
04:08And this is a house that they just bought, which is interesting.
04:12I mean, I believe, if my recollection serves me, they paid $60 million cash for this house.
04:17They looked around forever, Harvey, remember?
04:19They looked at more than 80 houses and settled on this.
04:24And now he's moved out.
04:26And again, you know, like Tawanda said, these kids have gotten close, the kids on her side
04:31and his side.
04:32So there's a lot of turmoil.
04:34Hi, I'm John Joseph from West Hollywood, and in my opinion, I think it is very obvious
04:38that these family outings are nothing but a PR coverup since they were caught living
04:42in separate homes.
04:43And I think that once J.Lo is done with her upcoming tour, they will officially announce
04:46that they're separating and blame it on living separate lives while she was away.
04:49You may be right.
04:50Wow.
04:51I mean, you may be right, but it certainly seems this marriage is in deep trouble.