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00:00Okay, let's go to Mr. Mardhadi.
00:02Mr. Mardhadi, you just said that
00:05the purpose of the PKS cadres to be nominated in the Jakarta election
00:09as a political strategy of the PKS
00:11is to increase the award value or to gain power for the PKS
00:14among the coalition parties. Is that true, Mr. Mardhadi?
00:19Yes, of course, the name of politics is an effective and smart effort
00:25to gain the trust of the public.
00:28Mr. Hands Up can have such a view, and that's what has happened all this time.
00:34But we at the PKS do realize that there is one thing
00:38that for the PKS, the main thing is not power,
00:41but the main thing is how the values of moderate Islam,
00:47Rahmatanilalamin, can be realized.
00:50And that's one of the things the cadres want.
00:54Let's prove that the PKS is indeed a cadre party.
00:57And Mr. Soe Buliman, with all his capacities,
01:01integrity, quality, and experience,
01:05is one of the cadres that we respect and love.
01:13So, when this name is nominated,
01:15it's not only for the DKI to cheer up,
01:18but all the cadres in the PKS cadre in Indonesia
01:23will have the added spirit that we want these cadres to move forward.
01:31When we look at one of the targets to move forward in the PILGUP is victory.
01:36When nominating Soe Buliman, what is it like, Mr. Mardhadi?
01:40Because if we look at it, there must be a strong representative.
01:43There is a name that is easily heard, for example, Kaesang.
01:45We hear Soe Bul Kaesang.
01:47Or is there another name that wants to be nominated to support Mr. Soe Buliman?
01:54When there is no nomination, all the names will be mixed up.
02:02But when it's time to nominate, 20% is mandatory.
02:08When 20%, a person who is very strong, top of mind, but doesn't get 20%,
02:14it's not certain that he can be nominated.
02:18With this 20%, it will slowly be decided which one is nominated.
02:25Although I also realistically see the scenario of Bang Hensad,
02:30that there will only be two candidates,
02:32the candidate for the PILGUP versus the non-PILGUP is very reasonable.
02:37Okay, Mr. Mardhadi, in short, we discussed the relationship between the PKS and Anies Baswedan.
02:44It's not explained specifically, as Mr. Mardhadi said,
02:47whether it will open or not.
02:49But we want to know the relationship between the PKS and Anies Baswedan.
02:52Because the information we got,
02:54when in the 2017 Jakarta election,
02:57Anies Baswedan and Andi Baswedan were nominated by Gerindra and PKS.
03:01But the seat from the non-PILGUP was initially filled by Andi Baswedan.
03:04Andi Baswedan became the minister, it should be the position requested by the PKS.
03:08But then Gerindra took that position. Is that true?
03:13Are you disappointed about that, Mr. Mardhadi?
03:18Yes, if the seat from the non-PILGUP in 2017 or 2019,
03:22the dynamics of DPR and DDKI did not give a firm space to the candidates from the PKS.
03:29So in the end, we all agreed to nominate candidates from Gerindra.
03:34PKS also agreed at that time to nominate Gerindra.
03:36So there is no bad relationship with Mr. Anies Baswedan.
03:39Mr. Anies Baswedan has a good relationship, harmonious.
03:42Even in the past 5 years, he has been very productive and collaborative.
03:45And when we nominated Soebul Iman, Mas Angin also understood.
03:49But did PKS want the position of the non-PILGUP seat?
03:55At the time of the DDPR election.
03:56They wanted it at that time.
03:58They wanted it because indeed,
04:02Bang Sandi also said, this is the PKS's responsibility.
04:06But for us, that is politics.
04:08Something that cannot be obtained.
04:11Unless the situation and conditions allow it.
04:14So at the same time as now,
04:16PKS as a winning party and a candidate party,
04:20we are very happy with the nomination of Muhammad Soebul Iman.
04:23Because of that, this gives a message to the cadres all over the place,
04:28because not only in Indonesia,
04:30that the candidacy is going well at PKS.
04:33Okay, let's go to Bang Masinton.
04:35Bang Masinton, it was clear that you said that
04:37Soebul Iman was targeted to become a candidate for the DKI Jakarta governor.
04:41Then, what about the coalition with PKS later?
04:44When it has been concluded that Soebul Iman is a candidate for governor of Jakarta.
04:51Yes, of course we have to build communication with other political parties.
04:56Especially if it has been said that Pak Anies is a candidate for the DKI Jakarta governor.
05:05Of course, we will build that communication.
05:08Likewise, with other political parties, it is also not necessarily possible with friends at PKS.
05:15But we are still in the process of networking.
05:21We are still in the process of networking,
05:23the names of those who are likely to be strongly supported by the people of Jakarta.
05:29So that's what we will communicate to other political parties.
05:34Like that.
05:35Okay, even though it has been supported by the people,
05:37but the political party that has the ticket can carry the people.
05:41This is based on the existing election.
05:43But like this, Bang Masinton,
05:44it means that from various political parties in the Jakarta elections,
05:49will the political attitude of PKS,
05:51which has the most seats in Jakarta,
05:53be a priority for the DKI Jakarta?
05:56To take a stance.
05:58Yes, of course, this candidate is the first.
06:00In addition to the requirements of the political party,
06:03the one who is chosen will also be a figure.
06:06Therefore, the names in this city are proposed by the cadres of the DKI Jakarta.
06:19That's the first thing we will do.
06:24Then the communication of the political party,
06:26yes, of course, to all political parties,
06:28we will build communication,
06:30including with friends of PKS, of course.
06:34Okay, let's go to Bang Hensad.
06:36Bang Hensad, you said earlier in your statement
06:38that the prediction in the Jakarta elections
06:41will only have two candidates.
06:43Can you explain, Bang? This is interesting.
06:46Yes, because this is not an ordinary democracy,
06:51this is a private democracy, as I call it.
06:53So the candidates are full of political intrigues
06:59with the current conditions, for example.
07:02The DKI Jakarta and Jokowi will definitely face each other, right?
07:06The rest is gone.
07:08Mr. Jokowi with Mr. Prabowo,
07:11while the DKI Jakarta can be with PKS.
07:14So, and then,
07:16no one is too lazy, the political party,
07:19with the DKI Jakarta,
07:21if then the authorities have to face the DKI Jakarta.
07:26For what? For them.
07:28Especially those who have been in the camp from the beginning.
07:30What else to do with the DKI Jakarta?
07:33So, the only one left is PKS.
07:35Now, for example, Mr. Anies.
07:39Will Mr. Anies be allowed to advance by the regime?
07:42Meanwhile, later in 2029, of course,
07:44he will be a potential opponent.
07:46I didn't find the reason.
07:48Why should Mr. Anies be given a ticket?
07:50The card must be alive.
07:52Well, that's why, if PKS now
07:55nominates Soebu Liman,
07:58the offer is probably
08:00how the DKI Jakarta and PKS can arrange
08:04a partner who is accepted by both parties.
08:07Then, Anies Baswedan,
08:09will the card be dead or not?
08:11It's not certain yet.
08:12Because there is a possibility,
08:14for example, there is political communication
08:18between Anies Baswedan and the regime.
08:20Whatever it is, it will happen.
08:22It can happen.
08:23But the condition is
08:27the regime can't talk to the DKI Jakarta.
08:30The regime that can talk the most is PKS.
08:34What if the DKI Jakarta itself
08:36can nominate?
08:37Can they nominate? No, they can't.
08:39Or maybe it's the desire of the regime
08:41that the DKI Jakarta can't nominate its own candidate.
08:45Because it will disturb later.
08:47Now, if PKS is alone,
08:50plus the regime,
08:51is it possible that Jakarta will have an empty city?
08:55It's possible.
08:56Or are there other candidates?
08:58It's also possible.
08:59If we look at it, you said
09:01there are DKI Jakarta and PKS.
09:03Where will the DKI Jakarta that supports Anies go?
09:05The DKI Jakarta can move forward.
09:07But, in my opinion,
09:08this is just a bonus.
09:10Because the central DKI Jakarta is with Kim.
09:13The central NASDEM is also with Kim.
09:15The one who declared to support Anies is Jakarta.
09:19It's the same.
09:20PKS Jakarta also said it's Anies.
09:22But the decision of the DPP is Soebuliman.
09:26And Soebuliman is not a new person in Jakarta.
09:29So, he is the rector of Ramadina,
09:32the head of the DPR as well.
09:34So, actually,
09:35I need to finish this line.
09:37Someone said,
09:38what can PKS do without Anies Baswedan?
09:40Don't get me wrong.
09:41PKS won several times
09:43before Anies Baswedan came up with PKS.
09:45They even voted for Jakarta
09:47around 2009, I think.
09:51Jakarta was white,
09:52and that was without Anies Baswedan.
09:54So, be careful to predict that
09:56PKS can't do anything with Anies Baswedan.
09:58PKS is a big priority compared to Anies Baswedan.
10:01Okay, this is interesting.
10:02But before we go to Mr. Mariani,
10:03we heard a statement from Mr. Mariani
10:05about the relationship between PKS and Anies Baswedan.
10:07Especially at the Jakarta Pilgrimage in 2017.
10:10Will this affect PKS psychologically
10:12to vote for Anies?
10:13Politically,
10:14it's impossible for Ustaz Mariani Alisera
10:17to publicly announce
10:19that he likes the public.
10:22Jakarta's public likes Anies.
10:24If Mr. Mariani Alisera said he doesn't like
10:27or opposed Anies Baswedan,
10:30Politically, PKS will lose a lot.
10:33That's why he said those words.
10:35So, this can be understood.
10:37Don't ever
10:39announce to the public
10:42that you like the public.
10:45That's about it.
10:46Okay, but is there a big chance for PKS to vote for Anies?
10:49With the relationship in 2017?
10:51At the moment, I haven't seen that.
10:54There's no chance, right?
10:55There's no chance.
10:56That's why I analyzed
10:59the relationship with the village
11:01that wanted to be the governor.
11:03Okay.
11:04From Mr. Henset to Mr. Mardini.
11:07Mr. Mardini, what do you think?
11:09What's the purpose of PKS?
11:11Is it to promote the cadres
11:13or to see more potential candidates
11:15through electability?
11:20The main thing is
11:22as a cadres party, we have a duty
11:25to promote our cadres to the public.
11:28That proves that this party
11:30has a good cadres.
11:32That maybe
11:34it's not top of mind yet.
11:36Electability, we're sure.
11:38With the grass roots of PKS
11:41that...
11:42Mr. Turnongon, Mr. Henset.
11:44We won in 2004.
11:47Now we won again in 2024.
11:50And last year, PDI won.
11:53We were number 3.
11:55Still, PKS now
11:57we won in East Jakarta,
12:00South Jakarta, Central Jakarta.
12:02I always teased Mr. Masinton.
12:04PDIP won in West Jakarta
12:06and North Jakarta.
12:08So if PKS and PDIP combined,
12:10the five are dominant.
12:12But I agree with Mr. Masinton.
12:14That the figure determines.
12:17But...
12:19How long can you go?
12:21Until when do we want to build a figure?
12:23Jokowi Dodo is a figure.
12:25But we can see
12:27our fundamental economy,
12:29our education, etc.
12:31I don't know if Mr. Masinton agrees or not.
12:33But at the time, don't be a solo player.
12:35At the time, be a team player.
12:37Don't be alone, Superman.
12:39But be a super team.
12:41And it is proven that he is from the political party.
12:44Okay, thank you very much.
12:46Mr. Mardhani, Mr. Masinton, and Mr. Henset.
12:49For your time, this is very interesting.
12:51Let's wait for the configuration of the political party.
12:53Is the prediction true?
12:55Will there be two porous coalitions?
12:56We'll wait. Thank you very much.
12:58For everyone, always be healthy.