Badan Pangan Nasional memutuskan untuk memperpanjang kembali kebijakan relaksasi Harga Acuan Penjualan (HAP) gula konsumsi di tingkat konsumen, melalui Surat Deputi Bidang Ketersediaan dan Stabilisasi Pangan Nomor 425 tahun 2024 yang dikeluarkan pada 26 Juni 2024. Beleid baru tersebut menyatakan, relaksasi harga gula pasir di ritel modern sebesar Rp17.500 per kilogram, dilanjutkan usai 30 Juni 2024.
Adapun dasar perpanjangan relaksasi harga penjualan gula pasir dilakukan, untuk menjaga ketersediaan, pasokan dan harga gula konsumsi yang stabil di ritel modern. Meski demikian, Bapanas belum bisa memastikan batasan waktu berakhirnya kebijakan relaksasi harga jual gula konsumsi di tingkat konsumen tersebut. Sebab, masih menunggu proses harmonisasi antar kementerian/lembaga.
Selain itu, Bapanas juga menetapkan harga acuan penjualan gula di tingkat produsen atau petani ditetapkan sebesar Rp14.500 per kilogram hingga 31 Oktober 2024.
Adapun dasar perpanjangan relaksasi harga penjualan gula pasir dilakukan, untuk menjaga ketersediaan, pasokan dan harga gula konsumsi yang stabil di ritel modern. Meski demikian, Bapanas belum bisa memastikan batasan waktu berakhirnya kebijakan relaksasi harga jual gula konsumsi di tingkat konsumen tersebut. Sebab, masih menunggu proses harmonisasi antar kementerian/lembaga.
Selain itu, Bapanas juga menetapkan harga acuan penjualan gula di tingkat produsen atau petani ditetapkan sebesar Rp14.500 per kilogram hingga 31 Oktober 2024.
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00:00Indonesia's economy is on the verge of collapse
00:15Hello viewers, how are you today?
00:18Live from IDX Channel Jakarta, I'm Prasetyo Ibo
00:21Welcome back to Market Review
00:23We will talk about the economic movement in Indonesia
00:26You can watch our live streaming at IDXChannel.com
00:29This time, we will talk about the sugar industry
00:33Where the government has extended the price of sugar consumption
00:41to Rp17.500 per kilogram
00:44Let's start the complete market review
00:48The government has extended the price of sugar consumption to Rp17.500 per kilogram
01:06However, the government has not been able to ensure the final limit of the price
01:12Because the process of harmonization between ministries is still waiting
01:19The Ministry of Food and Agriculture has decided to extend the relaxation policy
01:24of the price of sugar consumption
01:28Through a letter from the Minister of Supply and Stabilization of Food No. 425 in 2024
01:34Which was issued on June 26, 2024
01:38The Ministry of Food and Agriculture has just announced the relaxation of the price of sugar in the modern retail
01:43Rp17.500 per kilogram
01:45Continued on June 30, 2024
01:49There is also the extension of the relaxation of the price of sugar consumption
01:53to maintain the availability, supply and price of sugar consumption in the modern retail
01:58However, the government has not been able to ensure the final time limit
02:02of the relaxation policy of the price of sugar consumption
02:05Because the process of harmonization between ministries is still waiting
02:10In addition, the Ministry of Food and Agriculture has also set the price of sugar consumption
02:14at the level of producers or farmers
02:16Rp14.500 per kilogram
02:19Until October 31, 2024
02:23Meanwhile, the Indonesian People's Farmers Association estimates
02:26The government's steps to relax the price of sugar consumption is not exactly targeted
02:30In overcoming the rise in sugar prices in the community at the moment
02:34Because the government itself must ensure first of all
02:36the amount of national sugar reserves that are owned
02:39And thus, the government will easily intervene
02:42if the price of sugar moves abnormally at the consumer level
02:46Jakarta Tim Liputan, IDX Channel
02:56To discuss our interesting topic today
02:58The relaxation of the price of sugar consumption
03:00Rp17.500 per kilogram
03:02Rp17.500 per kilogram
03:03In the long run, we have been connected through Zoom
03:05Together with Mr. Sumitro Samadikun
03:07He is the Chairman of the Indonesian People's Farmers Association
03:11Hello, good morning, Mr. Sumitro
03:13Good morning, Mr. Pras
03:15Good morning, Mr. Roy
03:17Salam Sehat, Assalamualaikum Warahmatullohi Wabarakatuh
03:19Waalaikumsalam Warahmatullohi Wabarakatuh
03:21We also have Mr. Roy Nicholas Mande
03:23Chairman of the Indonesian Retailer Association, Prindo
03:26Good morning, Mr. Roy
03:27Good morning, Mr. Pras
03:28Salam Semangat
03:29Good morning, Mr. Sumitro
03:31Good morning
03:32Thank you for your presence, Mr. Sumitro and Mr. Roy
03:35Related to the relaxation of the price of sugar consumption
03:40At the consumer level, which is extended
03:42Rp17.500 per kilogram
03:45But before that, we will review first from you, Mr. Sumitro
03:48Regarding the stock, then the supply of sugar in the country
03:51Until now, what is the condition like?
03:54From your point of view, Mr. Sumitro
03:57Thank you
03:58Good morning, Mr. Pras, Mr. Roy, and all the viewers
04:03I want to say that today we are in the milling season
04:08So the beginning of the milling season is carried out in the middle of May
04:14Even if it's already in full bloom, in June, it's all milled
04:18And this is the beginning of production from farmers
04:23This can also enter the market
04:25Our first sugar mill or the first farmer's sugar sales
04:29Already entered the market in early June
04:31So the logic is that we don't need to worry anymore
04:36Whether from today we have a shortage of sugar in the market
04:41Just how we arrange
04:43So we don't need to worry
04:46And if our production is 2 million, more or less
04:50There is indeed a report that indicates that our possibility is 2.5
04:53We don't have to think too far
04:55If we can produce 2 million or more
04:59With the anomaly of the weather yesterday
05:03We are already grateful
05:04We just need to prepare for how our next market will be
05:08So we don't have to dream
05:10Later our production is 2.6
05:13Our land is this much
05:14We have to see the real on the ground
05:16Now our sugar is enough
05:19If today we will produce 2 million
05:22Then by December 2024
05:26This is enough
05:28We just have to think about 2025
05:31How we look at the stock
05:33And we have to look at the initial stock too
05:36While related to relaxation
05:39As I have often said on the IDX channel
05:44We actually don't need the government to regulate the market
05:49By implementing regulations with HAP at the level of the consumer
05:55Why?
05:56If we talk about the market
05:58This market is an agreement between the seller and the buyer
06:04While the seller is a producer
06:07Already through the trader
06:08And the producer is actually from the beginning
06:10What is regulated is HPP
06:13The government is very concerned about the farmers
06:16So they implemented HAP
06:18Not HAP, HPP
06:20HPP is the lowest market price
06:22From where we can solve the problem
06:25If we always regulate
06:27So there is no need for HAP
06:30We leave it to the market
06:31If there is an anomaly in the price jump
06:34This is important
06:35The government must hold the sugar stock
06:38Don't give it all to parties that are not outside the government
06:43Even our BUMN
06:45If it is allowed to import or buy sugar from farmers
06:49Don't rush to sell it
06:51What is the difference between BUMN and private companies?
06:55If imported, immediately sell it
06:57If imported, hold it first
07:00Use it as a weapon
07:03When there is an increase in sugar prices in the market
07:06So not with regulation
07:08But with strategy
07:11It is impossible for them to reduce the price
07:14If the government holds the stock
07:16This is important
07:17So God willing, if the government holds the stock
07:19This price will be flexible
07:21Next
07:22Is our sugar price enough?
07:25If we talk about the supply price
07:27Our production cost is actually around Rp. 14,900
07:32While our trading price
07:35We are given HPP
07:37I protest against HAP
07:39Because HPP is the lowest price
07:41If HAP can go up, it can go down
07:42If it goes down, it will destroy us
07:44Our HPP is actually Rp. 14,500
07:47This is still below our production cost of Rp. 14,900
07:52Okay, Mr. Sumitro
07:54Let's go to Mr. Roy
07:55Related to some data and information that have been conveyed by Mr. Sumitro
07:59From the retail market itself
08:01What do you think, Mr. Roy?
08:03Related to the sugar supply
08:05While the price of cecek in Bapanas itself is around Rp. 18,000 per kilogram
08:11While it is limited by HAP itself, Rp. 17,500 per kilogram
08:16Yes, thank you, Mr. Pras
08:18So in connection with what Mr. Sumitro said
08:21In principle, Mr. Sumitro is in the old sector
08:24How to coordinate friends in the old sector
08:29Producers, production, so that we can meet our needs
08:33If we are in the circular sector
08:35We are only concerned with one point
08:37Regarding the supply of goods
08:39Or the supply of sugar in this matter
08:41And also, of course, followed by price stability
08:45Because when we talk about commodity sales
08:50Fruits and vegetables and sugar included in it
08:52It's always us who face the consumer
08:55And the consumer always hopes
08:58Don't let the sugar be empty
09:01Retail, don't let it be less
09:04Because of course they come to retail to shop
09:07Then also a stable price
09:10These two desires of this consumer
09:13Which we always bring to the government
09:15That the important thing here is
09:18If Mr. Sumitro said earlier
09:20That the price of sugar is actually
09:22It's not capable right now
09:25Because the price is fluctuating
09:27The price right now
09:29If it's circular, of course, the economic law says
09:32Enough supply, the demand is still there
09:34Then the price is more stable
09:36But on the contrary, if the supply is less, the demand is still there
09:40It may fluctuate
09:42It is important for us
09:44We as entrepreneurs hope
09:46That there are breakthroughs that are made by the government
09:49Regarding, for example, a sugar warehouse
09:53Or a warehouse where the sugar storage place
09:56Until when there is a shortage
10:00I said the shortage is not over
10:02But in the production
10:04It's not the season of production anymore
10:06Harvest season again or harvest season again
10:08Still planting season
10:10Now automatically when needed
10:12So what's in the warehouse
10:14That's what's released
10:16This is the purpose of the government's intervention
10:19So that the condition of the price
10:22What Mr. Mitro said earlier
10:24There is no need for the term shortage
10:26But there must still be what is called
10:29Government intervention
10:31Which provides the sugar stock
10:33In sugar warehouses
10:34Warehouses owned by BULOK or warehouses owned by BGR for example
10:37Or also in the center of distribution
10:39Provincial and regional distribution centers
10:42How is this strategy for management
10:45Rather than production and also
10:47What's in the warehouse
10:49This is an important thing
10:51So how can the price be in line with the hopes of the people
10:56The hopes of farmers and all our hopes
10:59Of course this can be achieved
11:01So this balance is indeed difficult
11:03It's not easy to apply
11:05Easy to talk about
11:07But to break it
11:09It must involve all of us
11:11Entrepreneurs, the old sector, the circular sector
11:13Then also the government
11:15To sit together
11:17How do you want to do it in the future
11:19So it doesn't just go around
11:21In conditions like this
11:23Conditions that we don't expect
11:25When the price stability is not achieved
11:27For the stock itself
11:29In short, is it available now?
11:31Less or how?
11:33Yes, in retail
11:35The indicator is when the price
11:37Buy us, our HPP
11:39Can be below the price
11:41Or the expected price
11:43Indeed, the price can still move
11:45Compared to the highest HRN price
11:47But in terms of retail management
11:51When we buy
11:53Still below the price of HRN
11:55Or the expected price
11:57Of course we will definitely buy
11:59And certainly available
12:01But what becomes unpleasant
12:03Is when the price moves up
12:05This moving up
12:07This is of course what needs to be
12:09What we call
12:11As relaxation
12:13Because of that
12:15We buy with the HPP
12:17Which is below the expected price
12:19And we can provide it
12:21The point is, Mr. Prax, we can't buy at a loss
12:23We buy cheap
12:25Buy below the price
12:27Then the sales must be above that
12:29How? Who pays?
12:31Employees and also
12:33Retail, corporate, merchandise
12:35And so on
12:37This is of course our calculation
12:39Interesting, later we will discuss
12:41The new equilibrium point
12:43In terms of price balance
12:45Both in agricultural production
12:47Or in retail
12:49We will discuss later
12:51And Mr. Mirsa, make sure you are still with us
13:09Join us in Market Review
13:11We will continue
13:13And this is some data
13:15Related to the movement of sugar consumption
13:17In the community
13:19As far as the movement
13:21The average is still
13:23Around Rp. 18,000 per kilogram
13:25But we see the trend
13:27Has begun to tend to go down
13:29But still above the selling price
13:31From sugar consumption
13:33Or sugar that is sold in the community
13:35Rp. 18,140
13:37The highest on June 22
13:39To June 30
13:41At Rp. 18,010 per kilogram
13:43Then the area of national paddy fields
13:45This is data from BPS in 2023
13:47The largest position in East Java
13:49There are 227,000 hectares
13:51Then Lampung, Central Java
13:53South Sumatra, West Java
13:55South Sulawesi, Gorontalo
13:57North Sumatra, NTB
13:59South Sulawesi, NTT
14:01And also Yogyakarta
14:03These are some areas or centers
14:05Of national paddy fields
14:07We had a discussion with Mr. Roy Nicholas Mande
14:09Then Mr. Sumitra Osamadi
14:11Okay, Mr. Sumitra
14:13We will continue
14:15If we look at the price movement
14:17Mr. Roy has also informed
14:19That he does not want to sell at a loss
14:21In the sense of buying at a high price
14:23But sold at a cheap price
14:25How can we find a point of equilibrium
14:27Related to the price of selling
14:29Sugar in the community
14:31Especially sugar consumption
14:33Is it when buying
14:35Is the price already rising
14:37Or is it in the middle
14:39Between producers
14:41Then retailers
14:43That make the price
14:45Keep rising
14:47In the community
14:49Please sir
14:51I want to say that the sale of sugar
14:53We are the ones who avoid
14:55Farmers through cooperation
14:57The first time we sold
14:59At the end of May or early June
15:01We can sell
15:0314,921
15:05I remember it was at the sugar factory
15:07Candi Baru, Sido Harjo
15:09After that it immediately fell
15:11Even hit the number
15:1314,550
15:15If we talk there
15:17With HAP
15:19At 17.5 consumers
15:21There is a gap
15:23Around 3,000
15:252,500 to 3,000
15:27Actually this is enough
15:29The profits have been divided
15:31But why is it
15:3317,500 does not work
15:35Because Mr. Roy bought
15:37Maybe it can't be sold
15:39Mr. Roy's friends
15:41Can't sell at 17,500
15:43Meanwhile, those who dare to sell
15:45Are the traders at the market level
15:47The price of 18,000
15:49Because it was sold by our friends
15:51At the BC market
15:53But they also bought it above
15:55They dare to buy
15:57Because he dares to sell above HAP
15:59Not afraid of sanctions
16:01Mama is not afraid of sanctions
16:03If you want a sanction, please
16:05But Mr. Roy can't
16:07With such a large market
16:09The market
16:11If I'm not mistaken
16:13There are around 60,000
16:15So this is stuck
16:17Especially if we see
16:19How much do they sell sugar
16:21Actually selling sugar
16:23One mini market
16:25If you can sell 50 kg per day
16:27Why? Our sugar needs
16:29Don't buy every day
16:31Try later at the neighbor's house
16:33How many times a month do you buy sugar
16:35At most 2 times
16:37Buy 1 kg, 2 kg
16:39If you buy 4 times
16:41Maybe a lot of guests
16:43Buy once a week
16:45And they actually
16:47The trouble is not the consumer
16:49Our consumer
16:51We were in 2016
16:53And applied by HAP
16:55If you look at the price of sugar in Jakarta
16:57It once touched the number 18,000
16:592016
17:01And they didn't rebel
17:03So because the important thing is
17:05There is a supply
17:07The problem is our friends
17:09Or our regular customers
17:11Buy in mini markets
17:13Or in this modern retail market
17:15This
17:17When you see sugar there
17:19It's a mess
17:21They are not used to buying in
17:23The one in the corner is available
17:25Maybe the price is 18-18.5
17:27Why in
17:29Modern retail is not brave
17:31Because I corrected it earlier
17:33Mr. Roy
17:35HAP is treated as HAP
17:37No
17:39Our HAP is just called HAP
17:41When the price is already, for example, if you dare
17:43I challenge this
17:45Dare to go to the retail market
17:47Mr. Roy sells
17:49Up to 100-200
17:51Dare
17:53So the application of HAP as HAT
17:55Actually also confused
17:57Because if HAP can
17:59There is an increase in tolerance
18:01There used to be 5% 10%
18:03If the tolerance increases by 10%
18:05Then the price of sugar in the market
18:07Mr. Roy is 18,000 more
18:09No problem
18:11Because HAP
18:13HAP is 17.5
18:15If you add 1750
18:17It's already big
18:19So it's okay
18:21But have you ever
18:23Dare not
18:25When you don't dare to sell
18:27Then friends
18:29Our brothers who usually buy
18:31In the market
18:33Mr. Roy's market is confused
18:35There is no sugar
18:37I also asked the manager
18:39Why don't we dare to sell a little more expensive
18:41Don't dare sir
18:43The profit is around 50,000
18:45But the matter can be long
18:47This is the problem
18:49So let it be
18:51This market is moving
18:53Up and down
18:55Usually if this market goes up and down
18:57Just chili goes up to 100-120 thousand
18:59It's not confusing
19:01How many thousands of meat
19:03Red onions also go up
19:05It's not confusing
19:07This sugar only goes up a thousand
19:09The one who is confused is actually not a consumer
19:11So just ask
19:13The important thing is there are goods
19:15Mr. Roy's market has to sell
19:17If I don't have sugar
19:19Usually buy
19:21In the minimarket
19:23When I want to go to the market
19:25Asked by the manager
19:27Please buy sugar
19:29Where
19:31No way I go to the market
19:33Why don't you dare to sell
19:35That is the effect of that step
19:37Because if it is used as a benchmark
19:39Then we continue to import
19:41The one who gets hit later is the farmer
19:43The price of sugar will fall
19:45The one who enjoys it is not the consumer
19:47The one who enjoys the confusion
19:49Is a producer like us
19:51Okay, Mr. Sumitra
19:53Mr. Roy, how is this?
19:55You see the effect of relaxation
19:57The price of sugar sales
19:59At the level of the consumer
20:01How is it?
20:03If you buy at a price that is limited
20:05Not more than that
20:07Maybe if I don't want to buy
20:09There is no gain that can be obtained
20:11Yes, we know
20:13Mr. Pras that this modern retail
20:15Is a regulation
20:17Regulation and very
20:19Prevent things that are dynamic
20:21Which sometimes because
20:23Retail owners are not in the store
20:25Retail owners are in the central office
20:27So if it is disturbed
20:29Not disturbed, but come
20:31Come with
20:33With Sapo, come with PPNS
20:35That makes Gunda Gulana
20:37In the store and also
20:39Disturbing shopping
20:41So we are very
20:43Aware of the situation or condition
20:45Which is related to regulation
20:47We are actually maintaining inflation
20:49And also regulatory
20:51But I have an opinion with Mr. Sumitra
20:53That in the future
20:55There needs to be breakthrough steps
20:57Breakthrough steps if we want
20:59Get out of the circle that
21:01All this time has affected us
21:03So the first thing I said
21:05Is how
21:07Store management
21:09Availability in the store
21:11At some point the government can intervene
21:13So when
21:15The sugar is not enough, the government intervenes
21:17Directly from the stores
21:19That have spread throughout Indonesia
21:21The sugar and it can
21:23Arrange the price balance
21:25That's one, second
21:27It was mentioned earlier that the price of
21:29Farmers, producers and
21:31The retail sector
21:33It's actually quite significant
21:3514,550 was said earlier
21:37There are 14,700
21:39But this is very significant
21:41With 17,500 for example
21:43This is a reference image
21:45It means in the middle
21:47I'm sorry to say
21:49Dancing, partying
21:51In the middle
21:53Because farmers 14,550 or 14,700
21:55Retail with reference
21:5717,500
21:59Who enjoys in the middle
22:01This needs to be listed
22:03It needs to be inventorized
22:05By the government
22:07Called in quotation marks
22:09Untouchable
22:11Pengepul-pengepul
22:13Penimbun
22:15Or also
22:17Producers
22:19Sugar mills
22:21Big conglomerations
22:23This must not be untouchable
22:25Because in the middle
22:27A split-chain process occurs
22:29Producers produce
22:31Sell
22:33Who plays in the middle
22:35So far
22:37The price is significant
22:3914,550 with 17,500
22:41Almost 2,000 rupiah
22:43Who dances in this 2,000 rupiah
22:45This must be removed
22:47The issue of the warehouse
22:49Government intervention
22:51The warehouse must remain full
22:53If not from domestic production
22:55Import content
22:57The important thing is that the warehouse is full
22:59Who is in the middle
23:01Is there a sugar mill
23:03Working in the middle
23:05So that 2,000 rupiah
23:07Don't use
23:09To make the price
23:11Rising
23:13That's what Mr. Sumitra said
23:15In this producer
23:17The price is so-so
23:19While in retail
23:21We follow the regulations
23:23We don't want to be taxed
23:25Although we also admit
23:27Outside Java
23:31We have sold 18,500
23:33Because it's outside the island
23:35And that's the price principle
23:37It can still be plus or minus
23:39But basically
23:41We follow the regulations
23:43We are very vigilant
23:45Our country is a corporation
23:47Not an individual trader
23:49But what must be written down is
23:51Who is dancing in the middle
23:53It can be discussed
23:55In the next segment, Mr. Ari
23:57Is there a step from the government
23:59Maybe do a survey
24:01So that the price is really
24:03It was announced earlier
24:05From the level of production
24:07When there is a price increase
24:09But it doesn't touch
24:11To the top limit
24:13To the retail level
24:15So there is still a gain that can be used
24:17We will discuss in the next segment
24:19Stay with us
24:26The Untouchable
24:30Mr. Roy?
24:31What is Untouchable?
24:33Even BUMN is there
24:35Yes, I didn't just mention BUMN
24:38But we already know
24:40What Untouchable is
24:42So this is how it is
24:44Hello
24:46Yes
24:48Our BUMN has been forced
24:50To become a private company
24:52So profit
24:54Profit center
24:56Profit only
24:58The social role
25:00Stands for the interest of the country
25:02There is no longer
25:04Not the 3rd market
25:06Moreover, the basic laws
25:08I don't remember the 3rd market
25:10How many verses
25:12Land and water are given to the country
25:14For the people
25:16There are three economic actors
25:18Private, BUMN and corporation
25:20For those who still think
25:22BUMN corporation
25:24BUMN
25:26I don't want to mention
25:28PTPN
25:30Mr. Roy
25:32I want to know
25:34How much does it cost to buy?
25:36In retail
25:38Mr. Praas
25:40We buy no more than 8% margin
25:42Since the time of the minister
25:44To the minister
25:46Hello
25:48Hello
25:508% is actually rare
25:52Because we have
25:54Merchandising, labor cost
25:56Electricity cost, warehouse cost
25:58Then the cost of shipping from the distribution center
26:00To the store
26:02Distribution center is retail
26:04Sugar goes in there, then it is filled and sent to the store
26:06So that 8% is already
26:08The general figure
26:10But the condition is that we rarely get 8%
26:12Okay
26:14We can discuss later
26:16One point that makes the price jump
26:18In the middle
26:20That's what I said earlier
26:22Dancing in the middle
26:24If BUMN
26:26Take the lead
26:28Actually
26:36Thank you
26:38For joining us
26:40We will continue this warm discussion
26:42With Mr. Roy Mande
26:44How is it, Mr. Roy?
26:46Is it a policy or strategy
26:48From your friends
26:50To ensure the availability of sugar
26:52In retail markets
26:54And the price is still affordable
26:56Please
26:58Okay, Mr. Praas
27:00In retail, there are three main needs
27:02That can't be empty
27:04The first is rice
27:06Then sugar and cooking oil
27:08The others
27:10There are 11 main needs
27:12But these three
27:14Are usually polemic
27:16The condition, how rare
27:18I think this needs to be facilitated
27:20Mr. Praas
27:22Through the media, we always excite
27:24Good things
27:26Change and also progress for our country
27:28If necessary, just direct it
27:30In the orchestra between Hilir and Hulu
27:32We know Hulu
27:34Already got the price
27:36Then we also know
27:38How much retail also got
27:40In general
27:42If it can be directly bridged
27:44Then the middle
27:46I'm sorry, I just said
27:48Private or non-private
27:50The middle needs
27:52In the orchestra
27:54So in quotation marks
27:56I used the term dancing
27:58Doesn't make
28:00Farmers lack
28:02Get welfare
28:04Hilir and retail also lack
28:06To serve consumers
28:08So this condition needs
28:10To be orchestrated
28:12With determination
28:14And of course, this is not just one institution
28:16But this involves
28:18Various ministries and institutions
28:20Because this is an orchestra
28:22Which must be done together
28:24With the spirit of progress
28:26Change for Indonesia
28:28Better, more advanced
28:30In what we talk about today about sugar
28:32Okay, Mr. Umi, just briefly
28:34How is your view
28:36If this middle is orchestrated
28:38Will there be potential there
28:40For example, it will still benefit
28:42From farmers and also from Hilir
28:44Please
28:46In the past, the orchestra was there
28:48So the orchestra is called
28:50The Indonesian Sugar Council
28:52But in 2014, in November
28:54When Mr. Jokowi was appointed
28:56One of the ones who came in
28:58Dismissed by the Indonesian Sugar Council
29:00Because it is considered inefficient
29:02And we are very lost
29:04We can talk
29:06From all stakeholders
29:08So traders, entrepreneurs
29:10All kinds of producers
29:12Farmers all meet there
29:14And this complaint can be resolved
29:16There
29:18But now there is no sugar council
29:20Which determines itself is the government
29:22Without listening to us
29:24And at that time, there was no need
29:26Salary
29:28Sales
29:30There is no need for HET
29:32It's really hard
29:34This market is left
29:36The key is what Mr. Roy said earlier
29:38In the middle, there are players
29:40The country is there
29:42Which is BUMN
29:44Our BUMN is based in Gula
29:46The factory is one
29:48PTPN
29:50Now there is a company called SGN
29:52The second is ID Food
29:54RN Raja Wali
29:56The third is Bulong
29:58They are actually given a task
30:00As a weapon where they must
30:02Have enough sugar stocks
30:04So when this sugar happens
30:06For example, let's just imagine
30:08This market is free
30:10Free market
30:12If there is an increase in sugar
30:14What are you afraid of?
30:16Sugar owned by Bulong, PTPN, ID Food
30:18This can be thrown into the market
30:20Because it belongs to a country with a cheaper price
30:22It's over, the market can't go up
30:24Even if I can
30:26Speak and I have often said
30:28Don't let the government
30:30Sell ​​cheap goods
30:32Given for free
30:34Even in the form of sugar stock, it's okay
30:36Try it, our sugar needs
30:3810% of rice needs
30:40Nationally
30:42If the government can give
30:44People's pity
30:46Just give sugar stock, sugar SPHP
30:48Sugar is also no problem
30:50It's okay if the government wants to help the people
30:52So actually it's not difficult
30:54If our BUMN controls
30:56Sugar stock
30:58So when in the middle
31:00Sorry, I borrowed Mr. Roy's language
31:02Someone was dancing
31:04Don't dance, I have sugar
31:06Let the government get the sugar
31:08If Mr. Roy can't buy
31:10Sell ​​at this price
31:12Can be cheaper
31:14Our BUMN government doesn't have to be too profit-oriented
31:16Even though you can't lose
31:18But you have to be social
31:20There will be no difference between BUMN and private
31:22There are three economic sectors in Indonesia
31:24Private, BUMN, and corporate
31:26Where is the role of BUMN
31:28To stabilize the sugar price
31:30Without regulation that hinders us
31:32Okay, Mr. Mitro
31:34Thank you for the information and analysis
31:36Which is quite interesting if we respect
31:38And hopefully this is also the attention of the government
31:40So that from the beginning it was appropriate
31:42As soon as it benefits
31:44In terms of providing benefits to the people
31:46Then in turn it doesn't feel
31:48One, we know with the limited price
31:50Can't move
31:52Mr. Roy, thank you very much
31:54For your time, Mr. Mitro, thank you very much
31:56For the sharing that you have conveyed
31:58Congratulations on your activity again
32:00Greetings, Mr. Roy, Mr. Mitro
32:02Thank you
32:04Good luck
32:06Don't run away from your place
32:08We will return with other interesting themes
32:10Related to the effectiveness of import restrictions
32:12Protecting the textile industry
32:14We'll be right back
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