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00:00Richard, we saw during what Lisa was saying, there are a lot of pictures there of Jean-Luc Mélenchon
00:04and for a lot of people he's the problem, isn't he? Because it's very difficult for
00:08right-wing or moderate candidates to vote for that left-wing bloc
00:12when Jean-Luc Mélenchon is there from the far left.
00:16Well, he did a very smart move yesterday evening. So first of all, keep in mind Jean-Luc Mélenchon
00:21was not running himself as a candidate, so he's the power behind, he's the leader
00:26of the left-wing part of the Front Populaire, La France Insoumise. But he did a smart move
00:31because he was the first to appear in front of the television and he was the first to ask his
00:37candidate to withdraw in order to block the national rally. So that's a smart move because
00:42he shows himself being republican, democratic, while most of his opponents describe himself
00:49as not republican and not democratic. So it was smart. Now the question is,
00:54what is the Centre going to do, as your correspondent just said? Centre is Macron's troop,
01:00if you may say. Are they going to withdraw? But the risks they are taking, they may block the
01:07national rally, but in the meantime, in many constituencies, they may help the candidate for
01:12La France Insoumise to be elected. Take the example, I was last week in the department of Sartre,
01:17the department of Mr. François Fillon, who used to be Prime Minister from the Conservative Party.
01:21Marie-Caroline Le Pen, the elder sister of Marine Le Pen, is running there against a candidate from
01:28La France Insoumise. The candidate from La France Insoumise, who is the outgoing MP,
01:33arrived second behind Le Pen. The candidate of Mr. Macron decided today to stay on. She will
01:41not withdraw. So that means that we have to look constituency by constituency. But two things are
01:46sure. If Mr. Macron doesn't withdraw his candidates from all constituencies, it will be not possible
01:53to form a coalition because they will not have enough MPs in the coming National Assembly.
01:59Second point is that if the coalition works, if everybody withdraws to favour blocking the
02:07national rally, then La France Insoumise will have a lot of MPs. So they will be in a position of,
02:13let's say, running the show. So it's a very tricky situation in between the two rounds. We will know
02:20more on Tuesday, 6pm. That is the deadline for candidates to decide whether they maintain
02:26themselves. They can do if they have at least 12.5% of the registered voters. So we will know more,
02:33let's say, Wednesday morning. And it's very difficult as well to everyone being very critical,
02:38very suspicious, I suppose, of that left-wing alliance within it as well, because there are
02:42so many different blocs who have very different opinions on certain issues. True. What is sure
02:48is that the National, the Popular Front, the new Popular Front, the Nouveau Front Populaire,
02:53which is the name of the left alliance, it has worked, electorally speaking. If they had not
03:00united, they would probably fare way worse than what they are doing now. Now they have to transform
03:07it into a possible victory. And then if you want to win, you have to accept every candidate. You
03:14cannot choose between moderate left and radical left. You have to take them all. And this is
03:20precisely what Mr Macron and Mr Attal, they do not want. It's pretty obvious, isn't it, listening to
03:26the last 17 and a half minutes of the conversation, that it is very, very difficult to understand