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00:00So another Sunday, another day at Speaker's Corner and today we are here with Parvati
00:18and Parvati is a Hindu from India.
00:20Yes, your religion.
00:21So we're going to discuss a bit about Hinduism.
00:24It's not a topic that is often discussed at Speaker's Corner.
00:28The reason for that is because we have very few Hindus who come to Speaker's Corner to
00:33talk about their religion, their faith.
00:36So we are hoping that there will be more Hindus who would step forward and talk about the
00:41faith.
00:42It's just that there is a lot of misunderstanding amongst the Hindus about Muslims and amongst
00:47the Muslims about the Hindus.
00:49So it's always good to have a conversation, to have a direct conversation with the person
00:55about their religion rather than assuming things about their religion.
00:59So Parvati, tell us a bit about yourself.
01:01What do you do and what your interests are?
01:05Your first time at Speaker's Corner, isn't it?
01:06Yes, this is my first time and we've been here for a year.
01:10Okay, you need to speak up a bit because I want to make sure the microphone picks up
01:14the audio.
01:15Yeah, sure.
01:16So I've been here for a year.
01:17Okay.
01:18We're studying fluid mechanics.
01:19Fluid mechanics.
01:20Yeah.
01:21Mashallah, that's good.
01:22And yeah, that's good.
01:25Is it mastus?
01:26Yeah, it's mastus.
01:27Okay, that's good.
01:28And yeah, so about Hinduism, tell us a bit about the basics of Hinduism.
01:36Like what is it that a Hindu has to believe in, otherwise they are outside the fold of
01:41Hinduism.
01:42Can you perhaps give us a bit, just a summarized version of the belief?
01:50I'm not like a certified speaker of Hinduism, but what I've learned from my family and my
01:56upbringing is that it's more about having, it's more about the same stuff.
02:04You know, you spread love and you know, yeah, there is no like, at least according to me,
02:09we don't have very rigid rules in Hinduism such that if you, so for example, even when
02:16it comes to prayer, like, so I think that that's the difference between, at least according
02:21to me, between Islam and Hinduism.
02:23Prayers.
02:24Yeah, prayer times.
02:25We don't have like fixed prayer times.
02:27Right.
02:28And so we have a few things like before going to the temple, you take a bath and things
02:33like that.
02:34But these are things that you need to follow, but I'm not aware of anything that can like
02:39put you out, that can oust you from the Hindu community.
02:43Okay.
02:44You know, as Muslims, we believe in the five pillars.
02:47You must have heard about this.
02:48Yeah.
02:49I'm sorry.
02:50Okay.
02:51So basically the fundamental belief of a Muslim is in the five pillars, which are basically
02:55to believe in one God.
02:56Yes.
02:57To pray five times a day, to give zakat or charity, to fast in the month of Ramadan.
03:03And if you can afford it and are capable of, to go to Hajj once in your lifetime, at least.
03:08So these are the five fundamental, what do you say, pillars of Islam.
03:12So anyone who rejects any of this, they are outside the fold of Islam.
03:18Okay.
03:19So obviously for a Hindu, you have to believe in God.
03:23Right.
03:24Yeah.
03:25So what is the concept of God in Hinduism?
03:26Because there are many people who say that Hindus believe in 313 million gods or something
03:31like that.
03:32How true is that?
03:33So it's not, you don't have gods as a person.
03:35So each God represents an idea or, so you have part with me.
03:40Parvati is the goddess of power, of love.
03:42Sorry, which goddess?
03:43Parvati.
03:44Parvati.
03:45Okay.
03:46Is the goddess of power.
03:47Is that the wife of Shiva?
03:48Yeah.
03:49Okay.
03:50So she, they all represent values.
03:51So they're not like entities.
03:52Like they're not like a, so we, that's what I've been taught.
03:56Like they say you have a God in yourself.
03:58Like everybody has the capability of becoming a God.
04:01In Hinduism, the definition of God, the definition of divinity is to be a better person than
04:06what you were yesterday.
04:07So.
04:08Okay.
04:09So the idea is, it's like you have, when we actually go to the temple, you pray for
04:13two different gods, right?
04:14So it's mostly like, so to Lord Ganapati, you always say you start with God.
04:19Is that Ganesh?
04:20Yeah, Ganesh.
04:21Ganesh, the elephant God.
04:22Yeah, yeah.
04:23So things like that.
04:24So every God represents a value.
04:25So it's not like, so you do have a lot of gods.
04:27You have a lot of stories actually.
04:29How many gods?
04:30I'm not sure.
04:31Okay.
04:32A lot of gods.
04:33Lost count.
04:34You have a lot of values, right?
04:35You have a lot of morals.
04:36You know, there are gods for, there is a cloud God.
04:40There is a different kinds of gods.
04:43So nature worship and creature worship.
04:46Yeah, yeah, yeah.
04:47So every God represents a different idea.
04:49So it's almost like you kind of respect your nature, your fellow beings.
04:55It's kind of abstract, I feel.
04:57I don't think that basically, you know, it means like you have this particular God like
05:02you should.
05:03So it's not gods.
05:04It's more like ideals and morals.
05:06Okay.
05:07So they are just like concepts of nature or creatures.
05:10Yeah, that's what I.
05:11Like Hanuman is a monkey God and Ganesh is elephant God.
05:15So there's a form of creature worship and.
05:17So it's a mythology, right?
05:18Yeah.
05:19You have Greek mythology.
05:20So you have Hindu mythology.
05:21So you have stories.
05:22From these stories, we derive morals.
05:24Like, so if you have a lot of Rama and Sita.
05:29Theirs is about a husband-wife union.
05:31And you know how the wife and the husband, they make compromises.
05:35Basically how they are individuals, but they also are there for each other.
05:39You know, basically when you.
05:41So for me, at least for me, when my parents told me the story, it was so that I could
05:46inculcate a moral out of the story.
05:48Because when you talk to children, they don't.
05:51It's easy to tell them a story and tell them, see, this is what it means.
05:54That will stay for a longer time.
05:56So most of the mythology is like stories.
05:58What makes, for example, you give the example of Rama and Sita.
06:01Yeah.
06:02So what makes Rama God?
06:05Yeah.
06:06So Rama is.
06:07He was actually a king.
06:09It's not like.
06:10So what made Rama God?
06:12His really good nature.
06:14Like people believe.
06:15I told you that God is something that Hindus and Hindus and they believe is inside.
06:20Like even you can become a God.
06:22You can become a God.
06:23Yeah.
06:24The concept of God.
06:25It's not like God does magic or anything.
06:28So I think that that's what we need to understand.
06:31The definition of God maybe is different in Hinduism to that in Islam.
06:36Because in Islam, when you say God, you're talking about the most powerful being.
06:41Yeah.
06:42He's the almighty.
06:43He's the one who created everyone and everything.
06:45Yeah.
06:46So our concept is not just a good moral human being.
06:50Yes.
06:51Like, for example, we believe in Prophet Muhammad.
06:53Yes.
06:54And we believe he's one of the best role models.
06:56And he's the one who is called the mercy to mankind.
07:00Yeah.
07:01He's called Rahmatul Alameen.
07:03He came as a mercy to mankind.
07:05However, regardless of how good the morals of Prophet Muhammad possessed, we do not still worship him.
07:12He's still one of the servants of Allah and a creation of Allah.
07:17So I think this is where the Hindus and the Muslims perhaps differ in the definition of what God is.
07:23Yes.
07:24But do you believe in the, you know, the Trimurti or the Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva, isn't it?
07:33So you have the Brahma, the creator, Vishnu, the sustainer, and Shiva, the destroyer.
07:41So these are the, I know a bit of Hinduism.
07:44That's the reason I know this Trimurti is quite important.
07:47So is someone who doesn't believe in this Trimurti, are they considered Hindu or would they be?
07:53I think so, at least.
07:54I mean, I feel Hinduism is all about, you know, to be a better person.
07:58You see God in your spirit.
08:00I don't mean it in an egoistic way, I mean it in a good way.
08:02No, no, I understand.
08:03You see, you try to be a better person than what you were yesterday.
08:08So it sounds like Hinduism is more of a philosophy rather than a religion.
08:13Because obviously everyone also has a different viewpoint on the beliefs and whatever is written and the interpretations in the Bhagavad Gita, in the Upanishads, the Vedas and so on.
08:25So these are the books, the different books of Hindus, the scriptures.
08:29How much importance do you give to the scriptures as a Hindu?
08:33So, very honestly, I haven't read the scriptures.
08:36None of them?
08:37No, I just know the mythology and the stories.
08:40Okay.
08:45So we have in Hinduism, we have prayers and we have scriptures where you have morals and stories.
08:51But they are also told in the form of stories of Gods and so on.
08:55I haven't read the scriptures.
08:56Right, so it's more like stories, like you keep saying, which teaches you morals.
09:01Yes.
09:02And like, what about going to the temple or something for prayers?
09:06Is that necessary or is that also optional?
09:09So, it is good to go to the temple.
09:11Right.
09:12But it's not like if you don't go to the temple, you'll be ousted from the Hindu community.
09:16You don't have a life.
09:17You can pray at home?
09:18Yeah, yeah, definitely.
09:19You don't have to go to the temple to pray.
09:21Okay.
09:22And with regards to prayer, another question that pops into my head is, do you have to pray to these pictures of like Ram or Shiva or Krishna or whatever Gods you have an affiliation to?
09:35Because I think, because you're from South India, I think they have different, what do you say, Gods that they revere compared to the ones in North India, compared to the ones in Bengal in East India and maybe in Gujarat in West India, you know?
09:49Like, I think every region has their own, what do you say, special deities that they pray to or they idolize.
09:57Is that right?
09:58Yeah, it's right.
09:59It's also very personal actually.
10:00Yeah.
10:01For example, my mom, she does not really look at a picture and pray.
10:04She closes her eyes and prays.
10:05But she still has the image in front of her?
10:08No, she just closes her eyes.
10:09Okay, she closes her eyes and prays.
10:11Yeah, because she has arthritis, she can't sit down.
10:14So, she sits on a chair and she just prays.
10:16Okay.
10:17What about yourself?
10:18I actually look at the God.
10:20So, I look at the God and I think I close my eyes.
10:23It's very personal.
10:24Yeah, it's personal.
10:25It just happens, right?
10:27Wait a minute, brother.
10:28We are just discussing about the basics.
10:30Oh, right.
10:31Just bear with us, please.
10:32So, the reason I asked about the idol worship is because in Islam, that is something which
10:38is prohibited completely, like utterly.
10:41To have images of God is something prohibited not only in Islam, also in Christianity, I
10:46believe, and obviously in Judaism as well.
10:48So, what we consider the Abrahamic faith, you know, because all three religions, they
10:53consider Abraham to be a prophet of God and they have a common, what do you say, common
10:58understanding and there is a lot of commonality between these three faiths.
11:02So, in all of these three faiths, I mean, creating images of God is something that is
11:06completely prohibited.
11:08But I think in Hinduism, it's a big part.
11:11It plays a big part.
11:12From what I've seen…
11:13So, the reason why…
11:14Yeah.
11:15This is what I think.
11:16Okay.
11:17I'm pretty sure.
11:18So, the reason why we have pictures is so that you feel more connected.
11:21In a sense, you have a picture in your head.
11:23It's always like that, right?
11:24So, if I think of a tree, a tree pops up in my head, right?
11:26Yeah.
11:27If I think of wealth or something, God is Lakshmi.
11:31If I think of Lakshmi.
11:32So, you try to associate with pictures, it's more easy for you to think of what you, you
11:38know, what you want to pray about, you know.
11:41It's…
11:42I think it's also a shortcut.
11:43But these pictures are man-made, aren't they?
11:45No one has seen any of these gods or goddesses.
11:48They have just…
11:50Because I've also seen different pictures.
11:53Yeah.
11:54Yes.
11:55So, it's kind of…
11:57Parvati will have a trident, you know.
11:59So, it's all symbolic.
12:00Whatever they hold.
12:01Yeah.
12:02It's not like the facial features are going to be the same for everybody.
12:04It's just that the things that they hold, the kind of attire, the color of the dress
12:08they wear, it's all symbolic.
12:10Symbolic.
12:11Yeah.
12:12Okay.
12:13But it's not compulsory for you to pray in front of a picture or an idol.
12:16No, no.
12:17It's not compulsory.
12:18It's just for something for you to focus on.
12:19Yeah.
12:20So, see, we believe in meditation, right?
12:21So…
12:22Yeah.
12:23So, even closing your eyes is prayer.
12:26As long as you are praying, you can do it in any form.
12:30Okay.
12:31Interesting.
12:32I mean, what about the different…
12:34I don't know.
12:35Do you still have caste system in Hinduism?
12:37Yes.
12:38We do have caste.
12:39You still do?
12:40But…
12:41Yeah.
12:42That is…
12:43So, it started from a really long time back.
12:44Right.
12:45We still do have caste system.
12:46What does it mean?
12:47I mean, for the viewers who don't know.
12:48So, it started with the occupation you were doing, like, long, long, long back.
12:52So, there were…
12:53The kind of work that they were involved in.
12:54Yeah.
12:55There were four kinds of people, I think.
12:56So, the ones were kings.
12:57Yeah.
12:58Like the, you know, kings and…
12:59So, they were called Brahmins and there were…
13:02No, actually, the kings were not the Brahmins.
13:04It's…
13:05The kings were the Kshatriyas, right?
13:06Yeah.
13:07Kshatriyas.
13:08Yeah.
13:09So, the Brahmin is the educated, scholarly…
13:10Yeah.
13:11Scholar.
13:12Yeah.
13:13And there were good workers, like…
13:14Yeah.
13:15That comes later.
13:16So, you got the Brahmins.
13:17Then you had the Kshatriyas or the warriors.
13:18Yeah.
13:19The warrior clan and, obviously, the kings as well.
13:20Yes.
13:21And then you had the Shudras.
13:22Yeah.
13:23Because the Shudras are the lowest.
13:24Yeah.
13:25Isn't it?
13:26Which is like the untouchables even, I think.
13:27So, the thing is, it started with the occupation.
13:28Yeah.
13:29They were all…
13:30Yeah.
13:31They were all respected earlier.
13:32But I think it got translated in a really bad way with the coming generations and it
13:33just started leading…
13:34Yeah.
13:35You know, you say this person is not good enough and the other person is…
13:36His status is bigger.
13:37So, I think it got translated in a very wrong way.
13:38Okay.
13:39But, yeah, it is there.
13:40So, with regards to…
13:41For example, is it true that the Brahmins…
13:42Yeah.
13:43do not even touch the Shudras, the lowest class?
13:44So, sensible people don't believe such things.
13:45What do you mean, sensible people?
13:46Like…
13:47So…
13:48Because as far as I know, the Brahmins are the most educated amongst these…
13:49Not anymore, right?
13:50Not anymore.
13:51You go to college, you will be educated.
13:52I am not a Brahmin.
13:53You can go to the college.
13:54Okay.
13:55I am educated.
13:56My friend could be a Brahmin, but she is not as educated as me.
13:57So…
13:58Yeah.
13:59Yeah.
14:00Yeah.
14:01Yeah.
14:02Yeah.
14:03Yeah.
14:04Yeah.
14:05Yeah.
14:06Yeah.
14:07Yeah.
14:08Yeah.
14:09Yeah.
14:10Yeah.
14:11Yeah.
14:12Yeah.
14:13So, they are not as educated as me.
14:14So, it is not giving…
14:15Yeah, I think what I meant by educated is in terms of religious books.
14:18Not really.
14:19No.
14:20So, they know the language, they know Sanskrit, they are the ones who maintain these different
14:25books and rules and so on.
14:27No.
14:28Not so much, actually.
14:29No.
14:30Not anymore.
14:31Okay.
14:32Maybe things have changed.
14:33Because if I remember correctly…
14:34Everybody has access to the same stuff these days because of the Internet.
14:36So…
14:37Yeah.
14:38So, anybody can be good at anything.
14:39Okay.
14:40But why would they…
14:41would they have this rule or is it written in the Vedas that they cannot
14:43touch the Shudras, the lower caste? Or is this something that they made up?
14:47It wasn't like that. It was based on occupation. So every occupation was respected.
14:52It was never meant for the Shudras to be disrespected in such a way.
14:57I think as humans we also have a bad side to us. We tend to think we are more important than the other or something like that.
15:03But it got translated in a really bad way.
15:07But it's still there, isn't it?
15:09It's still there. So the Brahmins wouldn't marry anyone other than in their own...
15:15That's what I said. There will always be a community that is pretty much orthodox.
15:22And they don't really follow logical reasoning. There will be communities like that.
15:27But it is changing for the good.
15:29I don't know if it's changed. I think the Brahmins still wouldn't marry someone outside their caste, right?
15:36No, not at all.
15:37Not anymore?
15:38No.
15:39Because I remember seeing ads in the paper where they said they would only marry from their caste.
15:47There are people like that. But the majority of the people are not like that, for sure.
15:52No, that's good if it's changing. And I think the British had a huge part to play in that.
15:57They wanted to split India, right? And it was divide and rule.
16:02No, that's different, obviously. On a political...
16:05Yeah, but even when it came to people personally, I think they did that approach.
16:11Because their point was to have a monopoly, basically a rule over people.
16:17And how could you do that? By making them fight. So I'm not sure about that.
16:21Because it caused a lot of unwanted problems in the society.
16:28Maybe it's for the ease of their own administration and so on.
16:35I'm not sure about that. It could have been that.
16:38Sorry, you wanted to say something?
16:40Sorry for the interruption. I've got two questions. You answer the first one.
16:45My question is about what is the concept of Atman?
16:50I think you know Atman?
16:52Atma. Yeah, the soul.
16:55What is the concept of Atman? And what is the concept of death in Hinduism?
17:01I think he's pointing towards reincarnation.
17:03Reincarnation is a cycle for when and to what?
17:06That is one of the questions I had for you.
17:08Atman, where is Atman?
17:10As far as I know, they say... I'm not sure where this comes from.
17:15You should fact check it.
17:17But they say you keep on taking rebirths until your life's purpose is fulfilled.
17:23Until Mokta.
17:25So Mokta is basically free from this cycle.
17:29Free from this cycle of birth and rebirth.
17:32So it's birth, death and rebirth.
17:38This is the reincarnation cycle that the Hindus believe in.
17:41And they believe that one of the main objectives of every human being,
17:48at least in the Hindu faith,
17:50is to free themselves from this cycle of birth and rebirth.
17:54And the only way they can achieve this is by being a good human being.
17:57A good person.
17:59And I don't know.
18:01This is what I heard. Maybe you can elaborate on that.
18:04Pretty much so.
18:20Let's turn from China to Pakistan.
18:31Yesterday, there was an article in the Guardian.
18:38The article said that India has killed 20 terrorists in Pakistan in the last few years.
18:49They have done a lot of research on this.
18:54They have talked to a lot of people.
18:56This was first discussed in Canada and the US.
19:00But this is a new topic in Pakistan.
19:0220 people.
19:03So how do you look at this?
19:05This article also says that India is quite influenced by KGB and Mossad.
19:11So their intelligence agency, RAW, is doing this kind of work.
19:16There is a sleeper cell in the UAE.
19:18They have played a role in this.
19:20And 20 people, not one or two, but 20 terrorists have been killed in the last few years.
19:2320 terrorists have been killed?
19:25Yes.
19:26You can call them terrorists.
19:28But they have been killed on their land.
19:30Any terrorist from our neighbouring country will try to disturb India.
19:33Yes.
19:34He will commit terrorist acts here.
19:36We will break his face.
19:38If he runs to Pakistan, we will kill him in Pakistan.
19:42So this is what the Prime Minister is saying.
19:45Now India is not the kind of country that will just stand by and watch.
19:49It will enter the house and kill.
19:51Absolutely.
19:52What the Prime Minister has said is absolutely true.
19:54And this is India's strength.
19:56And Pakistan has also started to understand this.
20:00Similarly, India wants to maintain good relations with its neighbouring countries.
20:07Be it any of our neighbouring countries.
20:10And you must have seen today.
20:12Take a look at the past history.
20:14Till date, we have never attacked any country in the world.
20:19Or made any attempt to attack.
20:21Never.
20:24And we have never tried to occupy a single inch of land of any country in the world.
20:29Amen.
20:30Ladies and gentlemen, thank you very much for coming to ISPR once again.
20:36There is some activity going on in the Line of Control from this morning.
20:40So I thought I should talk to you about it.
20:47This morning, the Pakistan Air Force engaged six targets in the Indian Occupied Kashmir beyond the Line of Control.
21:00As has been going on for the past few days.
21:04That because India made aggression against us.
21:09Violated the Line of Control.
21:11And then the way it was claimed after that.
21:14That an alleged terrorist hideout was destroyed.
21:19And 350 terrorists were killed in it.
21:23I spoke to you yesterday about that.
21:27Pakistan Armed Forces and Pakistan Air Force had no choice but to respond.
21:36But how was the response given?
21:39Was it the same way as India did?
21:44Or was it the way of a responsible country?
21:48When God gives you capability and capacity, then there is an element of gratitude.
21:54That is more for your self-defence than for using it.
21:59Pakistan Armed Forces have capability, capacity, will, resolve, support of the people.
22:08All kinds of things are available.
22:11But because we are a responsible country.
22:14We want peace.
22:16So this morning when the Pakistan Air Force was going to take that target.
22:21So first of all we decided that we will not take any military target.
22:29Secondly we decided that as a result of engaging our target.
22:36There should not be any loss of human life.
22:40Not only of human life but there should not be any collateral damage.
22:46So when our Air Force was within its own limits.
22:50The targets that we had selected.
22:53We selected 6 targets.
22:56Our pilots locked on those targets.
23:01And then after locking it.
23:05At a little distance.
23:08We did those strikes at an open area.
23:12The aim was that we have capability, will, resolve.
23:17But we do not want to do anything that will prove us irresponsible.
23:22So we took the strikes.
23:26Bhimbergali, KGTOG and the supply depots in the area of Naryan.
23:32We locked all those targets with accuracy.
23:37And when we had the option to fire at them.
23:40We proved our responsibility.
23:42Keeping a safety distance from them.
23:44And then we engaged that target.
23:46The aim was to say that we can do everything.
23:51But we do not want to do it at the cost of the peace of the region.
23:56This retaliation was not in true sense.
24:00But to say that Pakistan has capability.
24:04We can do it.
24:06But we want to be responsible.
24:08We do not want to escalate.
24:10We do not want to go to war.
24:12The Prime Minister also gave a message of peace.
24:14The people also gave a message of peace.
24:16And we do not want to take this region to war at any cost.
24:23We will share the video of this in a while.
24:29When the Pakistan Air Force took this target.
24:32After that, two Indian Air Force aircraft entered Pakistan's borders.
24:44The Pakistan Air Force was ready.
24:46They took on it.
24:48They engaged with each other.
24:50As a result, both Indian aircraft were shot down.
24:55One of the wreckage fell on our side.
24:59While the second wreckage fell on their side.
25:03There is also information that one of the Indian aircraft has fallen.
25:06It is a little inside.
25:07But we did not engage with it.
25:11Two pilots of our forces on the ground.
25:15They took them under their arrest.
25:18And treated them as a civilized country treats them.
25:23One of them was injured.
25:25We have transferred him to CMH.
25:27God willing, he will be taken care of.
25:29While the others are with us.
25:32Here, I would like to show you some of the documents we have received from them.
25:48Thank you.
25:49Apart from this, I was watching on Indian media.
25:51They said that they have also destroyed a Pakistan F-16.
25:56The first thing is that Pakistan did not use the F-16 in this entire action.
26:02And there is no such news that a Pakistan aircraft has fallen.
26:07Now let's talk about what is the path ahead from here.
26:12The state of Pakistan, the government of Pakistan, the armed forces of Pakistan,
26:17and the people of Pakistan.
26:19We have always conveyed a message of peace to India.
26:25And the route to peace goes through dialogue.
26:30Both countries have the capability and capacity.
26:34But war is actually the failure of policy which India needs to understand.
26:41As the Prime Minister said, it is easy to start a war, but no one knows where it ends.
26:50So, from our side, even today, having displayed our capability, will and resolve,
26:57we still do not want to escalate.
27:00We want to follow a path which leads to peace.
27:05The people of both the countries and the region at large,
27:09they have a right to live and live in peace.
27:14If you say that we need to give our people education, health, employment,
27:20then let's sit together and talk.
27:23War does not solve problems.
27:25No problem in the world has been solved by war.
27:29So, this offer of ours, the offer of the government of Pakistan, India,
27:34should think about where we want to go.
27:39There is also a responsibility of the international community here.
27:43The situation between Pakistan and India, Pakistan does not want to go towards war.
27:49It is a message of peace from Pakistan.
27:52They should also come forward and see how the environment between India and Pakistan
28:00are a threat to peace and development, not only between the two countries,
28:06but in the region and beyond.
28:10I have said this before and I am saying it again,
28:14the way we gave a different response and with responsibility,
28:18the Pakistani media has done peace journalism.
28:23The action we took today was in self-defense.
28:27We do not want to indicate any kind of victory on this.
28:31No one wins in war, no one loses. Humanity loses.
28:35So, my request to the Pakistani media is to continue the objective reporting.
28:40Report on the path that leads to peace.
28:44If war is imposed on us, then the reporting at that time is different.
28:50Today's reporting is responsible, today's reporting is with responsibility
28:55and it is a matter of going towards peace.
28:58Pakistan as a state and Pakistan's air force as a capable force,
29:05despite having all the capabilities, our message is for peace.
29:09Thank you very much.
29:17Thank you so much, DG sir.
29:19I am sure that today is a day of pride for Pakistan and the Pakistani people
29:23that we took this action in self-defense.
29:26What do you see after this?
29:28Do you think that if any kind of attack can be made from India,
29:33what will be our response to that?
29:35In the same way, the way we are engaged today, we will be engaged in the same way.
29:40And to be honest, today we are getting the National Command Authority.
29:43So, today in the National Command Authority,
29:45our nuclear and missile facilities,
29:48their professional preparedness will be evaluated.
29:52So, you understand that our nuclear assets and missile facilities,
29:56if they are used in battle, then it can also be used for defence.
30:00Thank you.
30:02Thank you very much.
30:03As I told you, today's action was in self-defense.
30:09And there was an in-built message in it that the way we selected the target,
30:14engaged it, ensured that we could not do any kind of collateral damage to it.
30:20So, from this too, we have given the message that
30:23despite having our capability and capacity, we look towards peace.
30:28And the route to peace goes through dialogue.
30:31The second part of your question,
30:34I have always said that we must not talk about this.
30:38This is insane to talk about this.
30:40It is a capability and a weapon of political choice.
30:44This is neither our level nor is it a topic that can be discussed.
30:49Thank you very much.
31:19So, if you would like to tell us about the current situation of tension.
31:25The airspace that is closed at the moment is due to the environment.
31:30As I said, the response that Pakistan has given,
31:35actually per se it is not a retaliation,
31:38it is a demonstration of our capability, capacity and will
31:44staying within the domain of responsibility as a state which has the potential.
31:51We do not want to escalate the situation.
31:54It is up to India now whether they go for the way which we have suggested
32:00and which is the requirement of this region, which is peace.
32:04But this is something that should not be questioned.
32:08If aggression is imposed on us, then we will respond.
32:12But that will be under compulsion.
32:15Last question.
32:17Ok. Ok.
32:41Pakistan is not pushing the environment towards war.
32:46If that was the case, we could have easily engaged the target
32:51on which our air force locked first.
32:54That would have resulted into human casualties and collateral damage as well.
32:59So having done that, we engaged a nearby open space
33:06where there was no human life or no military post.
33:11Meaning thereby that we deliberately avoided the escalation.
33:16It was just an open area where we have recorded, we will show you.
33:23We just wanted to demonstrate that we could have easily taken the target, the original target.
33:29The original target was their administrative setup, their military post, but we did not do that.
33:37And what was the second part?
33:39Ok. Thank you very much ladies and gentlemen.
34:09That we did not use any JF-16 in this entire operation.
34:13On behalf of Major General Asif Ghafoor, India was also given the message of peace.
34:19There is no other option but to respond to Pakistan in this situation.
34:24And he said that due to environment, the space that has been closed is in an environment.
34:30But again he said that the message of peace that is being sent from Pakistan,
34:34India should think about it, India should think about it with a cool heart.
34:41Now in this situation, the situation will be more clear
34:45because the National Command Authority is also being held today.
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