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00:00:00Is that the way you do it?
00:00:01I'm leaving now.
00:00:02I'll let them go edit this out and do what they do it.
00:00:06It's fabulous.
00:00:06It's wonderful.
00:00:07The comedy is just knocking me out.
00:00:09I can't stake it.
00:00:10I'm a chatty guy when it's necessary to be chatty.
00:00:13And I'm an unchatty guy when it's unnecessary to be chatty.
00:00:17So I'm a chatty, unchatty guy.
00:00:19I go the full spectrum of chat.
00:00:21I'm out of here.
00:00:22Get out of here.
00:00:23Great.
00:00:23Are you ready to get on the hot seat with Wally George?
00:00:33Because I am going to burn your skinny little buns!
00:00:36Oh, for heaven's sakes!
00:00:38Hang on for the wildest, most controversial talk show on television.
00:00:43Meet Wally George, the bombastic host of America's wackiest talk show and the founder of Combat TV.
00:00:50When I bring up the most ludicrous people I can find, liberal idiots, and I put them on the hot seat, and I just nail them to the wall.
00:01:01It's no accident that people compare the Wally George show to wrestling.
00:01:06It is like wrestling.
00:01:07It's not real.
00:01:08They can spot a phony in five seconds.
00:01:13But that doesn't matter.
00:01:14Hot seat is Wally George.
00:01:17He's a man so conservative that he makes Ronald Reagan look like a flaming liberal.
00:01:22You may have never seen Wally's show, but you've probably felt his influence.
00:01:29Before me, talk shows were pablum.
00:01:32George is the reason there is a Morton Downey Jr., a Geraldo, a Jerry Springer.
00:01:37He was the original.
00:01:38The original Jerry Springer.
00:01:41The original fights in the studio with Geraldo Rivera.
00:01:45The original was Wally George, and you really can't take that away from him.
00:01:49George is also the father of movie star Rebecca DeMornay, who won't have anything to do with him.
00:01:55She's the daughter of Mr. Conservative, you know.
00:01:58In the next hour, we will put you squarely in Wally's hot seat.
00:02:02It was like going on in battle circumstances, being somewhere between a war zone and a circus, maybe both at the same time.
00:02:10We will travel back to the early 50s, when Wally George, a kid with a stuttering problem,
00:02:15landed his own radio show.
00:02:17You're really talking to Bing Crosby, you're talking to Bob Hope.
00:02:20He didn't feel shy or inferior about talking to these big people.
00:02:25We will take you into the rock and roll clubs of the 60s, where Wally, the master self-promoter, reinvented himself.
00:02:32I played at the Peppermint Lounge West for one solid year.
00:02:36Stars who lived in the area used to come to our club, and it was a swinging success.
00:02:42And we will explain what has kept Wally hosting Hot Seat for nearly two decades.
00:02:47He likes combat, he likes controversy, and that's what Hot Seat's all about.
00:02:52Stay in your seat, Wally. Stay in your seat. Stay in your seat.
00:02:58This is the story of one man who transformed himself and the future of television talk shows.
00:03:04This is the story of Wally George, the E! True Hollywood Story.
00:03:09The dream of being one of the world's...
00:03:11Her life's ambition was to be a star.
00:03:23Walter George Perch was born in San Mateo, California, on December 4th, 1931.
00:03:29Wally was the youngest of two children and the only son of British sea captain Walter Perch
00:03:35and Hollywood child actress Eugenia Clinchard.
00:03:38Wally's sister, Jean Perry.
00:03:40My father had been a captain on a boat, and he was a very...
00:03:46How do I say it?
00:03:48A reserved man, and he believed in the old English idea that the children should be seen and not heard.
00:03:54But Wally's mother was far from reserved.
00:03:57I can remember going into an ice cream store, and they leaned over the counter and said,
00:04:03Hello, Wally. What flavor ice cream cone would you like today?
00:04:07And before I could open my mouth, she said,
00:04:09He wants vanilla.
00:04:11My mother not only controlled me and possessed me, she talked for me.
00:04:16When Wally did talk, he stuttered.
00:04:19Wally's close friend, Dr. Keith Kenyon.
00:04:21Usually we figure it's a relationship with your family or some deal early in life that frustrated you
00:04:28and you are unable to express yourself.
00:04:33My mother always answered for me.
00:04:35And all of a sudden, at about six, she wasn't around all the time.
00:04:39And people would say, Wally, what do you think about this?
00:04:41And I'd go, uh, uh, uh.
00:04:43And, you know, where's mom to answer for me?
00:04:47Wally's speech impediment didn't stop him from performing in front of his family.
00:04:51My father got a little microphone made for him.
00:04:54And he'd maybe be, oh, seven, eight years old, and he would put on shows in the living room.
00:04:58Wally enjoyed being the center of attention.
00:05:02As a young boy, Wally boldly revealed his plans for the future to his father.
00:05:06I said, I'm going to go into show business.
00:05:09And it was as if I had just hit him across the face with a baseball bat.
00:05:15Wally's mother was equally stunned by the news.
00:05:18My mother said, are you insane?
00:05:21That was her loving way of talking to me.
00:05:24In the late 40s, Wally's parents split up.
00:05:27I didn't feel good about parents separating.
00:05:29But it wasn't the real broken heartedness.
00:05:31Oh, no, we won't be around dad because we weren't really around him that much anyway.
00:05:35Four years later, Wally, Jean, and their mother packed their bags and moved south to Hollywood.
00:05:41But Wally soon began to have problems in his new environment.
00:05:45They would beat me up after school.
00:05:47Oh, many times. I can't count the times.
00:05:49They'd wait for me after school and beat the heck out of me.
00:05:54Wally persuaded his mother to enroll him in the Hollywood Professional School.
00:05:58Judy Garland went and Mickey Rooney and Donald O'Connor and Natalie Wood.
00:06:02All entertainment people went to Hollywood Professional School.
00:06:05If I stuttered a little bit in school, nobody ever talked to me about it.
00:06:09They liked me. I liked them.
00:06:11It was a great time of my life.
00:06:13Wally pursued his dream of becoming a disc jockey.
00:06:16After approaching a number of radio stations, Wally finally struck pay dirt.
00:06:22The only station that was left that I hadn't been to was KIEV in Glendale.
00:06:26So I went there, and the owner at that time was a man named Cal Cannon,
00:06:30who was the mayor of Glendale at that time, too.
00:06:33And I talked to him, and his way of getting rid of me was to say,
00:06:37you find yourself a sponsor, Wally, and I'll put you on the air.
00:06:41Wally found a sponsor.
00:06:43Bob Wyan, owner of the Bob's Big Boy restaurant chain.
00:06:47He said, Wally, do you really think you can do it?
00:06:51And I said, Mr. Wyan, I know I can do it.
00:06:55And he said, okay.
00:06:58Picked up the phone, called KIEV, got Cal Cannon on the phone.
00:07:02He said, Cal, this is Bob Wyan.
00:07:04I'm going to put this kid, Wally George, on the air.
00:07:07Wally's mom was anything but proud.
00:07:10My mother was horrified that she was going to be embarrassed.
00:07:15That's what she told me.
00:07:18Wally was also worried about embarrassment.
00:07:21I had ten seconds to go, and I said,
00:07:23please, God, let me get through this.
00:07:27And at that moment, I felt this wave, this warm wave come across my body.
00:07:32Every muscle relaxed, and I turned on the microphone,
00:07:37and I spoke for two hours and never stuttered once.
00:07:41Singer Frankie Lane was one of his first guests.
00:07:46The strange part that I noticed that when he got to talking about music
00:07:49or interviewing people on the radio, the stutter disappeared.
00:07:53So I attributed it to excitement, enthusiasm,
00:07:57and in a hurry to get his words out.
00:08:00And so began the Wally George Teen Time Show,
00:08:03which aired two hours a day, Monday through Friday.
00:08:06I was making good money, 250 a week, over 50 years ago.
00:08:10250 a week, that's a lot of money.
00:08:13A Chevrolet convertible.
00:08:15But the big spender was soon under close supervision by a new manager, his mother.
00:08:20My mother never had the career she wanted.
00:08:23She was a child star, and after she became an adolescent,
00:08:27nobody wanted her anymore, and it broke her heart.
00:08:31And I think that I was carrying on for her where she left off.
00:08:40And by being my manager, and doing absolutely nothing as a manager,
00:08:46she was a part of show business again, even if it was through me.
00:08:55Coming up, Wally bids a painful goodbye.
00:08:59Mother, let me go!
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00:11:57In 1945, the Wally George Teen Time Show
00:12:02attracted a virtual who's who in Hollywood,
00:12:04including singer Frankie Lane.
00:12:06I was intrigued.
00:12:08So I did the show and it was very successful,
00:12:10so I went back a few times
00:12:12and we kind of became good friends.
00:12:14Wally had a show and a future.
00:12:16If he could just get rid of his mother.
00:12:26Wally's mother, Eugenia,
00:12:28saw her son's budding career as a springboard
00:12:31to fulfill her own unrealized dreams.
00:12:33Wally's sister, Jean Perry.
00:12:35She was saying,
00:12:37you're going to really get ahead
00:12:39and I'm going to be your manager.
00:12:41And that was really a foolish thing for him to let her do
00:12:43because she didn't really have the know-how
00:12:45or the experience.
00:12:47She called me after every single broadcast
00:12:51five days a week
00:12:53for four years
00:12:55that I was on that show
00:12:57and she never once told me
00:12:59what I did right.
00:13:01She always told me
00:13:03what I did wrong.
00:13:05Try as she might,
00:13:07Mrs. Perch couldn't diminish
00:13:09Wally's love of show business.
00:13:11At age 15, Wally became good friends
00:13:13with actor Ozzie Nelson.
00:13:15George even landed a bit role
00:13:17on the popular Ozzie and Harriet radio show
00:13:19as Wally, the grocery boy.
00:13:21Sometimes they'd go over to their house
00:13:23and they'd have,
00:13:25they usually had Sundays or something
00:13:28and he just enjoyed being with them
00:13:30because I think they were a nice family together
00:13:32and that he kind of was feeling,
00:13:34maybe he did feel that he missed out
00:13:36on some of that close family feeling
00:13:38when he was a child.
00:13:40In 1949,
00:13:42after four successful years on KIEV,
00:13:44the Wally George Teen Time Show
00:13:46came to an end
00:13:48and so did Wally's relationship
00:13:50with his mother.
00:13:52I remember I was standing in that hallway
00:13:54and finally I couldn't take it anymore
00:13:57and I screamed
00:13:59on top of my lungs,
00:14:01Mother,
00:14:03let me go!
00:14:07And as I'm saying it now,
00:14:09I can remember it so well,
00:14:11I can remember my stomach just churning
00:14:13and my head throbbing
00:14:15and I said, Mother, let me go!
00:14:19In 1952,
00:14:21amid the personal strife
00:14:23came another big change.
00:14:25Wally legally dropped his surname, Perch.
00:14:27My first name was Walter,
00:14:29my second name was George
00:14:31and then I had that other last name
00:14:35which was my father's name
00:14:39and I hated the name
00:14:43and when I changed it,
00:14:45that turned my father against me
00:14:47even more.
00:14:49Wally finally felt liberated from his family.
00:14:51It was a heady experience
00:14:54I was making up for lost time
00:14:56for when I was a pudgy, stuttering
00:14:58young kid
00:15:00when the girls wouldn't come near me.
00:15:02Now I'm in my twenties and I look pretty good.
00:15:04I'm sharp, I'm wearing nice clothes,
00:15:06I'm driving a nice car
00:15:08and I'll tell you, I'm not bad looking.
00:15:10By 1956,
00:15:12Wally was back on the air
00:15:14with a new radio show,
00:15:16The Wild, Wacky, Wonderful World
00:15:18of Wally George
00:15:20which aired on KTYM-FM
00:15:23in Inglewood, California.
00:15:25They were selling the airtime for $15 an hour.
00:15:29$15 an hour!
00:15:31I bought two hours a day
00:15:33which was $30 a day,
00:15:35five days a week
00:15:37and it cost me $150 a week
00:15:39to be on the air for 10 hours a week.
00:15:43And then I went out and sold my own sponsors
00:15:45and I kept all the money.
00:15:47Around this time,
00:15:4926-year-old Wally George met
00:15:51One year later,
00:15:53the couple tied the knot.
00:15:55We got married at City Hall
00:15:57and we lived together first
00:15:59and both of our mothers
00:16:01were on our backs
00:16:03to make it legal
00:16:05and I said, yeah,
00:16:07it's probably the right thing to do.
00:16:09On August 29, 1959,
00:16:11Jane and Wally George welcomed
00:16:13their first and only child
00:16:15into the world,
00:16:17daughter Rebecca George.
00:16:20Wally continued to soar,
00:16:22but his marriage was in shambles.
00:16:24I said, look, this can't go on this way
00:16:26and so she said,
00:16:28I agree, I'm moving in with my mother
00:16:30and she packed up Rebecca
00:16:32and away she went.
00:16:36Coming up,
00:16:38Wally makes a shocking discovery.
00:16:40I drove up there on a weekend
00:16:42and the house was empty.
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00:16:49It was hilarious, man.
00:16:51and had the world in the palm of his hand.
00:16:53He would always say that Christmas was every day.
00:16:55But comedian Redd Foxx
00:16:57let it all slip away.
00:16:59He said, that's it, no more Sanford.
00:17:01What fueled his anger?
00:17:03You never knew what day he was going to be.
00:17:05What led to his financial ruin?
00:17:07They're taking the house, they're taking everything.
00:17:09And what caused his bizarre death?
00:17:11I wish he could have stayed longer.
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00:19:26In the early 60s, rock and roll dominated the airwaves and Los Angeles
00:19:35radio personality Wally George was determined to cash in. I went out and
00:19:40sold my own sponsors and kept all the money. I was clearing every year almost
00:19:47$100,000. Wally George was living a life of luxury and along with it came the
00:19:53notoriety Wally craved since he was a child.
00:20:03In 1959, at the age of 28, Wally George came up with a plan for a new radio
00:20:10program. I went to A&W Root Beer and I sold them on the idea of doing a remote
00:20:16on KTYM from their big drive-in. I had people like Johnny Mathis, Fabian,
00:20:23Frankie Avalon. I had every star you could think of who was popular with the
00:20:28kids. Wally wanted to be famous too and not just as a DJ. George decided to give
00:20:34music a try. What he needed was the proper showcase. I formed a band called
00:20:39Wally George and the Hollywood Twisters and I played at the Peppermint Lounge
00:20:44West for one solid year and it was a huge success. Stars who lived in the area
00:20:50down at the beach, Peter Lawford and Cesar Romero and people like that used
00:20:55to come to our club and it was a swinging success. In addition to
00:21:00celebrities, the band attracted many female fans. One girl in particular caught
00:21:05Wally's attention. Her name was Nancy Freely, son Kerry George. She met my dad
00:21:12when he was in his DJ days and he actually had a, if I can remember right,
00:21:17he had a, he was a singer at a nightclub and he had a band called Wally George
00:21:22and the Twisters and they met at a nightclub, you know, and began to date
00:21:28and go out a little bit. They did more than date. The couple married after 24
00:21:33year old Nancy became pregnant. On February 28th, 1963, Nancy gave birth to
00:21:39their only son, Kerry Walter George. Meanwhile, Wally's daughter Rebecca was
00:21:45living nearby in Glendora, California with her mother, Jane and stepfather,
00:21:49scientist Richard DeMornay. Tragically, Rebecca's stepfather died the same day
00:21:55her half brother was born. I used to go up every weekend and visit with Rebecca
00:22:00and I'd pull my car up and I get out of the car and I look up at the balcony and
00:22:04I just see these blue eyes staring down at me and she'd scream, Daddy. And I
00:22:09held my arms out and she ran with all her might and leaped into my arms and
00:22:19hugged me and said, Daddy, Daddy, Daddy, I love you so much.
00:22:28Wally's visits continued for three years. Then, one afternoon. I drove up there on
00:22:35a weekend and the house was empty. They were off into Europe and they stayed
00:22:40there for several years. Along with the loss of his daughter, George's marriage
00:22:44to Nancy fell apart. The couple divorced in 1967. It's very tough in this business
00:22:50for any marriage to work out because your work always comes first. It
00:23:00almost has to if you're going to succeed. A few years after the divorce, Kerry and
00:23:05his mother moved to Orange County, California. Wally saw Kerry sporadically
00:23:10during his adolescence. We spent time together. He would come down and we'd go
00:23:15to the fair, do the dad out of town thing. But I think the distance didn't
00:23:20allow us to be close as far as having a relationship. I was working to be a star
00:23:26and I was working a lot. I was on the road when I had my band playing night
00:23:31clubs and when I didn't have my band I was a disc jockey. I was working long
00:23:34hours, six hours a day on the air and then preparing for my show. I was
00:23:39gone in the morning, early in the morning, came home late at night. In 1969, George's
00:23:44daughter Rebecca returned to the United States for a brief stay. She was 10 and
00:23:49that was the only time that she visited me. She spent
00:23:55the whole summer with me and I had a wonderful time with her and then she
00:24:02went back to Europe. I didn't see her again for another eight years. Once again,
00:24:06Wally plunged into his work. In 1973, 28 years after his first radio broadcast,
00:24:13Wally made his entree into television. George's first effort was a Los Angeles
00:24:19based political talk show, The Sam Yorty Show, hosted by former LA Mayor Sam Yorty.
00:24:25Harry Cooperstein directed the program. Although he produced Mayor Yorty's show,
00:24:30in essence, you could call him a co-host because he did on-camera things also
00:24:35besides the opening. He would, you know, he would maybe before the show ended he
00:24:39would sit and they would do a reprise of the show together and so in a way you
00:24:42could almost say he was a co-host. Yorty was a conservative Republican, as was
00:24:47Wally. George idolized President Richard Nixon, who at the time was mired in the
00:24:52Watergate scandal. Wally was incensed when Nixon was forced to resign and made
00:24:58a vow to the former president. And I said, Mr. President, I just want you to
00:25:02know that millions of Americans love you and admire you and think that you were
00:25:08the greatest president we've ever had. That simple statement became Wally's
00:25:12credo and shaped his television career, a career that was about to heat up.
00:25:21Coming up, Wally gets steamed. I bring up the most ludicrous people I can find,
00:25:28liberal idiots, and I put them on the hot seat and I just nail them to the wall.
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00:28:53For 30 years, Wally George danced along the edges of showbiz, performing in rock
00:29:04bands, hosting radio shows, and producing local political television programs. Then
00:29:10in the early 70s, conservatism swept the country and Wally was ready to make the
00:29:15most of it. Wally would say things that other people just thought or maybe said
00:29:20in private, but he would say out loud and he would say them on television.
00:29:23Wally George produced and co-hosted the Sam Yorty Show for six years in Los Angeles. From
00:29:371973 to 1979, a wide variety of guests appeared on the program, including staunch Republicans
00:29:45like Ronald Reagan and liberals like California Governor Jerry Brown. Director Harry Cooperstein.
00:29:51Sam was never all that controversial. Sam was just a good host. But sometimes Wally
00:29:57would take over. Like when Sam would, let's say, be on vacation, Wally would take over
00:30:01the show and he'd do it. It was hot seat. I mean, it was the beginning of hot seat.
00:30:06In 1979, the Sam Yorty Show came to an end. The demise of the program signified the end
00:30:13of an era for Wally. But a new beginning was not far off. Ten years had passed since Wally
00:30:19last saw his daughter, Rebecca, now 20 years old. All of a sudden there was a knock on my door. I
00:30:25opened the door and there stands my daughter with a suitcase in one hand and she said she
00:30:32wanted to be an actress. I tried to talk her out of it. I said, you know what your mother went
00:30:36through. Wally's son, Kerry George. My dad helped her kind of get started. He got her the age and got
00:30:42her an acting school. After first meeting Rebecca, I said, you know something, Wally? I said, she's
00:30:47gonna be a major star. He said, why? I said, she stops traffic. I did everything I could to
00:30:52encourage her, put her in acting school, gave her money. She was broke. Rented her an apartment,
00:30:57bought her a used car, got her a portfolio. He was very, very helpful to her. Very supportive.
00:31:03As a matter of fact, on her one sheet it says, when it says Rebecca De Mornay and Kerry Wally
00:31:10George Productions, KCOP, Los Angeles. He was, at the beginning, very supportive and very helpful
00:31:18and very proud of her. Meanwhile, Wally found himself another soapbox. After Mayor Sam's show
00:31:25went off, he did a show at KWHY, which I also directed. It was Wally George show. Yeah, he had,
00:31:31I mean, he'd just tear into different guests. That was the format of the show. In 1982,
00:31:37Wally moved his show to KDOC Channel 56, a commercial UHF station based in Orange County,
00:31:44California. KDOC was co-owned by a consortium of investors, including entertainers Pat Boone and
00:31:52Jimmy Durante. The plan was to have George become the 80s version of right-wing commentator Joe
00:31:58Pine, a controversial talk show host from the mid-60s. KDOC former general manager, Mike Volpe.
00:32:07I said, well, we want to do a kind of a Joe Pine show with you being the interviewer and also with
00:32:14provocative guests, people that would not seem to agree with your philosophies. I want to do it like
00:32:2220 times more exciting, you know, with shouting and yelling and a screaming audience and I'm going
00:32:28to get physical and violent and call people jerks and morons and idiots and grab them and
00:32:33all this kind of thing. Wally's controversial new talk show, Hot Seat, debuted October 1st, 1982.
00:32:40The day we did the pilot, it was so good that we aired the pilot four days later,
00:32:48unedited. And from that point on, Wally just sort of grew on Southern California.
00:32:57One of the very first shows garnered national attention when a pacifist priest went head to
00:33:02head with Wally. Station's CEO, Calvin Brack. Blaze Fontaine was his name and Wally invited him to
00:33:10be a guest. This was the time of Granada and he was trying to convince the audience that, you know,
00:33:18they were going to go to Granada and they're going to die because there were all young kids there.
00:33:22I jumped out of my chair and I grabbed him with all my might on the shoulder of his jacket and
00:33:29shook him and he looked at me astonished. I looked down at him and I said,
00:33:34If you don't knock it off, I'm throwing you off personally. Can you hear that, Maureen, buddy?
00:33:40And he jumped out of his chair and he overturned my desk. All three networks covered the story.
00:33:47Never again would television or talk shows be the same. Before me, talk shows were pablum. I mean,
00:33:56they were, they were boring. I mean, they just interviewed authors and little bimbo starlets,
00:34:02you know, who were promoting their, their latest flick. And, but I came along and whammo, whammo,
00:34:09you're out of here and all this kind of stuff. And boy, people jumped to it. It just went bang.
00:34:15I stand up for God and country and morality and decency.
00:34:20Hoshang Modelli directed Hot Seat in the early years.
00:34:24We had many people calling, they want to get into the show and we didn't have room for them
00:34:29because the studio was very small. Television and film professor Pamela Ezell.
00:34:34It was known right from the beginning that Wally George was a conservative.
00:34:38And if you had any doubt about that, you could just look at his set. He has a picture of John
00:34:42Wayne and an American flag. And, you know, he even has some ties that are like the American flags.
00:34:49He's very, very conservative. But Wally needed a sidekick.
00:34:53Co-host David Kennedy fit the bill perfectly. He was there to introduce me and he was my Ed
00:34:58McMahon. He laughed at my jokes and said a few things to our guests. Once again, we hit all of
00:35:05the hot topics in society today on this one program. He was my friend that supported me
00:35:10right down the line. Wally George came to life on his combative talk show
00:35:16and people took notice of the blonde 50 year old. This is the original voice of confrontation,
00:35:22original combat talk show. We started the whole thing. If he didn't like anyone,
00:35:27he'd kick him off the air. So we had two or three people in standby waiting to go on
00:35:31all that all the time. The show became very, very popular.
00:35:38Coming up, the relationship between Wally and Rebecca de Mornay becomes strained.
00:35:44My show became kind of an embarrassment to Rebecca.
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00:38:25what makes you you, what puts the fun in everything you do. Style, the fashion,
00:38:31beauty and home design network. After 37 years in broadcasting, Wally George found his niche
00:38:44when he began spouting conservative views on Hot Seat. Meanwhile, George's daughter,
00:38:50Rebecca, was making news of a different kind. It was a gigantic smash and made her and Tom Cruise
00:38:57stars. By 1982, 23-year-old Rebecca De Mornay was involved in a serious relationship with 57-year-old
00:39:12actor Harry Dean Stanton. At the time, Stanton was auditioning for a new movie, Risky Business.
00:39:20Didn't get the part, but he came back and said, Rebecca, the part of Lana is you. Rebecca landed
00:39:27the role opposite Tom Cruise. Risky Business premiered in December 1983. The movie was a smash.
00:39:36Cruise and Rebecca became overnight stars. They also became a couple. As Rebecca's star was on
00:39:42the rise, Wally was gaining notoriety of his own. In addition to Hot Seat, Wally was chosen to
00:39:49appear on Alan Thicke's talk show, The Thick of the Night. And Fred Silverman, who was once the head
00:39:55of all three networks, invited me to be a regular guest on that show. And every Thursday night
00:40:03was Wally George night. After only one year, The Thick of the Night was canceled. Nevertheless,
00:40:10Hot Seat continued to attract viewers and guests from all walks of life. Feminist attorney,
00:40:16Gloria Allred, made regular appearances. It was like going on in battle circumstances,
00:40:22being somewhere between a war zone and a circus, maybe both at the same time.
00:40:27Another frequent guest was Morton Downey Jr. Morton Downey Jr. came down and he had told people
00:40:34that nobody was going to kick him off the air. So when Wally eventually gets to the point in the
00:40:40interview where Morton Downey Jr. would do something that Wally didn't like, he said,
00:40:45OK, you're out of here. Wally was flying high with his over-the-top, in-your-face talk show.
00:40:53But 25-year-old Rebecca DeMornay, George's actress daughter, did not find her father's
00:40:58show amusing. She got mixed up with all this Hollywood crowd and boy, did they lean her
00:41:04in the other direction. And my show became kind of an embarrassment to Rebecca. Wally wasn't about
00:41:10to stop. He was at the pinnacle of his career. Meanwhile, in 1986, after dating actor Tom Cruise
00:41:17for more than two years, Rebecca ended the relationship and reunited with Old Flame,
00:41:23Harry Dean Stanton. Tom Cruise fell in love with Rebecca and wanted to marry her. And she said no,
00:41:31she wasn't in love with him. A year later, in August 1987, Wally was on a radio show when he
00:41:38received a call from an 18-year-old British fan named Janis Hedges. I saw his show on Channel 56
00:41:46and I thought, who is this wild guy? I mean, from England, I'd never seen anything like that before.
00:41:52I said, well, write me a letter and send me your picture. And she put her home address back in
00:41:58England and she mailed it to me. Wally and Janis began a long-distance relationship.
00:42:03Two months later, Wally was surprised to learn that his nemesis Morton Downey Jr.
00:42:08was giving Wally a run for his money. I read in the trade papers that Morton Downey Jr.
00:42:14has sold his show to WWR-TV in New York. He goes on the air, I watch the show, it's my show
00:42:24without Wally George. He has copied everything. Morton Downey Jr. may have molded his show after
00:42:31Hot Seat, but there was a big difference. The Morton Downey Jr. show found mainstream success.
00:42:38Geraldo, Jenny Jones, all these people have copied Wally George and that bothers me a lot.
00:42:45Meanwhile, Wally focused on his relationship with Janis Hedges.
00:42:49I asked her if she would let me bring her over here for Christmas and I would put her up in a
00:43:00in a hotel and she could spend the holidays with me. I remember him telling me that he
00:43:07he would he was going to marry me and I you know I'm 18 years old I'm from England and
00:43:13and not used to this kind of thing. Wally's engagement added more strain to his relationship
00:43:19with daughter Rebecca DeMornay. I called her and told her that I was that I was marrying Janis and
00:43:25I told her how old she was. She was younger than Rebecca and she was not thrilled about it.
00:43:34I said, well what about Harry Dean Stanton? You're you're going out with someone my age.
00:43:39What's the difference? And she had no answer, but I just felt the drift. On February 14, 1988,
00:43:4756 year old Wally and 18 year old Janis were married in a small ceremony in Anaheim, California.
00:43:54Now Wally, without further ado, you've got the most elegant wife here. Give her the biggest
00:43:59hug and kiss ever. I never expected to get married in that kind of fashion to uh to a
00:44:05TV personality and have my wedding on on taped for television. I really didn't. Soon after the
00:44:12wedding, Wally received a call that his mother was in a coma. It was heart failure, heart stopped
00:44:17and eventually that is what caused her death. Wally's mother Eugenia passed away in the spring
00:44:24of 1988. Following the death of Wally's mother came news of a different kind.
00:44:30In the fall of 1988, 19 year old Janis George became pregnant. When I found out that I was
00:44:36pregnant with Holly, I was only 19 years old and I was very afraid. I was scared and uh and then
00:44:46when it finally sunk in that I was going to have a child, I was excited and so was Wally. Holly
00:44:53George was born on July 20, 1989. Wally immediately called his daughter Rebecca to tell her the news.
00:45:00There was this long pause and I could feel that the tenseness in her voice and she said,
00:45:07what was it? And I said, a little girl and it got tenser and she said, oh how nice uh
00:45:13what did you name her? And I said, Holly. Oh like Christmas, that's nice and uh that was it.
00:45:22Rebecca has never seen her half-sister Holly.
00:45:27Coming up, I was really afraid that he was going to die.
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00:48:23In the summer of 1989, 57-year-old talk show personality Wally George became a father for
00:48:29the third time. The birth of daughter Holly gave George a reason to slow down and enjoy parenthood.
00:48:36But before Wally could relish his new life, his health took an unexpected turn.
00:48:41He had ignored these symptoms that he'd had,
00:48:45and was, I think, just afraid to go to the doctors to find out exactly what it was.
00:48:50In October of 1989, Wally's wife Janice took over as producer of Hot Seat.
00:48:56We would go through newspapers and find articles that, you know, that might be appropriate for the
00:49:03show, issues of the day, things like that. One guest who appeared on the talk show
00:49:09was radio DJ Rick Dees. You've got to be kidding me.
00:49:15One guest who appeared on the talk show was radio DJ Rick Dees.
00:49:19I am gonna burn your skinny little butt. How about that?
00:49:24If you disagree with anything that Wally says, your life is in peril. And that's the first time,
00:49:30that's the first time I had 16 stitches from a TV show. Walking out of the parking lot,
00:49:34had no tires left, my car's up on blocks, and they had a little tape playing on the
00:49:39front seat of my car going, Wally, Wally, Wally. Crazy.
00:49:44I have a plan that will work. Another guest was outspoken marketing
00:49:49executive Jim Myers. Answer my question.
00:49:52I'll answer you when I'm good and ready. Answer it.
00:49:54This vile, rude skeleton of a man disgusts me to the very core of my being.
00:50:01I was on between 35 and 40 times. I had loved to debate my whole life. And so for me,
00:50:08it was an opportunity to do what I like to do. It was interesting finding out what these people
00:50:13did and why on earth they'd want to be on the hot seat. Janice enjoyed her role as producer
00:50:19of Hot Seat, but she never felt that Wally treated her as his equal.
00:50:24My life would be a lot easier and quieter if I just didn't discuss those things with Wally.
00:50:30Janice also did not feel like an equal in her marriage. In September of 1990,
00:50:36she fled to her native England, taking 13-month-old Holly with her.
00:50:40After a short time in the UK, Janice had a change of heart.
00:50:44I remember seeing Holly with her dad, and it just seemed to me the right thing to do to come back.
00:50:51So I moved back over here again. But problems in their marriage continued.
00:50:56A year after moving back to the United States, Janice filed for separation and moved with Holly
00:51:02to a small apartment in Sherman Oaks, California. One of the major reasons
00:51:08our marriage ended was because of the age difference. I think I was more like
00:51:15a father figure than I was a husband. In December 1993, 61-year-old Wally became ill.
00:51:23When he was diagnosed with prostate cancer, I was really afraid that he was going to die.
00:51:29Janice apparently wasn't the only one who feared the worst. In January 1994,
00:51:34Wally was scheduled for surgery. Rebecca DeMornay paid her father a visit in the hospital.
00:51:40I only saw Rebecca with him once, and that was at the time he had the surgery
00:51:45at USC Medical Center, and he was very hopeful that this would be the permanent reconciliation.
00:51:54It wasn't, obviously. It was the last time Wally saw his daughter, Rebecca.
00:52:00Wally recovered from the surgery, but two years later, on April 26, 1996,
00:52:06Wally was in a near-fatal car accident. George was bedridden for months. Three months later,
00:52:13Wally came close to death yet again. Wally's lawyer, Eric Trout.
00:52:17He was coming out of a production trailer at KDOC on a metal staircase, and he fell.
00:52:24There were no handrails on the staircase, and he lost his balance when he was up near the top,
00:52:30and toppled over and hit his head. On August 4, 1996, Wally underwent
00:52:37surgery to remove blood clots from his brain. Once again, George pulled through.
00:52:42I think what helped Wally as far as through the illnesses is the fact that he loves what he does.
00:52:47I truly believe that the thing that got him through all of it was Holly,
00:52:52and his will to live because of her.
00:53:00Coming up, how much longer will Hot Seat go on?
00:53:03If I could have a choice of being with Holly for the rest of my life or doing my shows, no choice.
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00:56:18The thing I like about the Style Network is that it has everything there for a woman.
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00:56:34For more than 50 years, Wally George enjoyed a prolific career in radio and television,
00:56:40including 17 years on Hot Seat.
00:56:42Despite failed marriages and monumental health problems,
00:56:46Wally George bounced back time and again.
00:56:49And the feisty 68-year-old doesn't appear to be slowing down.
00:56:53I'm sick and tired of the drugging of America.
00:56:55Now he's a little more limited in his career because of his age,
00:56:58but he still makes 11, still does pretty well.
00:57:01And I think he's got to look back and think he had a good life.
00:57:14In 1997, after a long separation, Wally and Janice George divorced.
00:57:20Although the couple is no longer together,
00:57:23they share joint custody of 10-year-old daughter Holly.
00:57:26I see him every other weekend and like a couple of days in between the week.
00:57:32I think that she's the force that keeps him going now.
00:57:36And he lives every day for her.
00:57:40I think that Holly has become definitely much more important
00:57:43than Wally's career or anything else that he has.
00:57:45And she's the light of his life.
00:57:48If I could have a choice of being with Holly for the rest of my life,
00:57:53or doing my shows, no choice, no choice.
00:57:56Give this up like that.
00:57:59To this day, Wally and his first daughter, Rebecca DeMornay, remain estranged.
00:58:04Rebecca's attitude of not only cutting me off,
00:58:07but all of her family, I mean, her sister, her brother,
00:58:12her aunt, her cousins, just cutting everybody off
00:58:16is ridiculous and unforgivable.
00:58:19And I can't understand it to my dying day.
00:58:21Wally continues to live life to the fullest,
00:58:24dividing his time between visits with Holly and hosting Hot Seat.
00:58:29These days, Hot Seat no longer entertains a live audience.
00:58:33Because I'm getting older,
00:58:36I think it would be very detrimental to my health
00:58:42if I were to do that kind of show with a live studio and scream and yell
00:58:48and jump out of my chair.
00:58:50Hot Seat is televised in more than 150 markets across the country.
00:58:55There's a couple things, a couple reasons I think Wally George is still in the air.
00:58:57One is that he does have 17 years of product.
00:59:01He's got all that footage that he can just continue to cut and recut.
00:59:04And the other reason is because he does have access to a station, KDOC,
00:59:09that as far as I know, doesn't have a lot of other people banging down their doors.
00:59:13In November 1999, Wally embarked on a book tour to promote his memoirs,
00:59:19The Father of Combat TV.
00:59:21I deserve the title of my book, The Father of Combat TV.
00:59:27I think they definitely broke the mold when he was born.
00:59:30I can't think of anybody else that's like him.
00:59:33I am a showman who has convictions.
00:59:39I could have been a politician and I would have done it the same way.
00:59:45I would have been elected by doing the same thing I'm doing on Hot Seat.
00:59:49I would have called some people jerks and morons.
00:59:51People would have loved it.
00:59:52They would have loved it.
00:59:53You, pal, are out of here!
00:59:59Now you're going to ask me, is this really my hair, right?
01:00:04That's the next question, right?
01:00:05Is this really my hair?
01:00:07Tell me what you think.
01:00:10I can tell you one thing and I won't say any more.
01:00:14It's my hair.
01:00:16I own it.
01:00:19Absolutely.
01:00:23And now it's time for Hot Seat Highlights with Wally George.
01:00:28Stand by for Wally's hard-hitting comments on the hottest issues of the day.
01:00:31Then check out highlights from the past 17 years of Hot Seat.
01:00:35And now, here he is, the original voice of conservatism and controversy,
01:00:40the most talked about and the most imitated talk show host on television.
01:00:44It's the one and only Wally George.
01:00:50Thank you very much, Mike Carlucci.
01:00:54And welcome, everybody.
01:00:55Here we go once again.
01:00:56Everybody, we are here and you are there.
01:01:01You better be there as we are here Monday through Friday at this time, 1230,
01:01:08right after Letterman or Leno.
01:01:10And then on Saturday night, we do the Late Late Date at 2 a.m.
01:01:13And don't forget, my special guest again tonight
01:01:18is going to be my beautiful, adorable daughter, Holly George,
01:01:25the young lady that keeps me alive, that keeps me going.
01:01:32She is the light of my life, my wonderful daughter, Holly George.
01:01:38And she'll be on the show later on to answer some of your email questions.
01:01:44And we'll be chatting with her, so you don't want to miss that.
01:01:47She's getting more and more beautiful every single day.
01:01:51Rebecca, eat your heart out.
01:01:56All right.
01:01:57Now, talking about as we oh, don't forget, if you want to write to Holly,
01:02:06you know, you've been writing to me for a long time.
01:02:10If you want to write to Holly, write to her in care of this P.O.
01:02:16Just write to Holly George, P.O. Box 4942, Garden Grove, California, 92842.
01:02:24And she'll be glad to look through your letters and maybe read some of them on the air.
01:02:31Or if you want to email her, you can do that on my website, which is wallygeorge.com.
01:02:40Just wallygeorge.com.
01:02:43And you can email me or Holly and we'll get to them.
01:02:51All right.
01:02:51Now, we've been talking about the Democratic, the dimwit Democratic Convention.
01:03:00I'll tell you.
01:03:01It says here in this headline, speech is walk on the tightrope for Al Gore.
01:03:09The vice president's challenge was to strike a balance between interests that often conflict.
01:03:20So Al Gore tried to be interesting.
01:03:25So Al Gore tried to be interesting.
01:03:31And besides planning that that well rehearsed smackaroo on Tipper Gore,
01:03:39that was about the most exciting thing, I think, in the entire speech.
01:03:44Did you see the speech, Hoshi?
01:03:46No.
01:03:47You know, you know, something he did that I cannot understand why he did this.
01:03:52First of all, he spoke for almost 50 minutes.
01:03:56And when he would say something and applause would come,
01:04:02he wouldn't even stop for the applause.
01:04:04He spoke over the applause.
01:04:07Have you ever heard anybody do that?
01:04:09You wait and then when it comes down, then you go on.
01:04:13But he was saying, and they were applauding.
01:04:17Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:04:18And he was still talking.
01:04:21I spent any moment to say, wait, I'll tell you what to applaud out there.
01:04:28You know, sometimes Al Gore can be a mean man.
01:04:33You don't believe me?
01:04:33Show that picture, Jeff.
01:04:36I mean, look at that.
01:04:38There's that.
01:04:39There's the mean Al Gore.
01:04:43He's pointing at Tipper when this picture was taken.
01:04:46And he's saying, get my coffee and get it now.
01:04:56And that looks pretty, pretty mean to me, wouldn't you say?
01:04:59Yeah, he's supposed to be this happy-go-lucky guy, you know,
01:05:02the cool father and the cool husband.
01:05:07But this is the real Al Gore.
01:05:09Show it again.
01:05:10Yeah.
01:05:12And I'm telling you, and I'm telling you,
01:05:14and I'm telling you, and I'm telling you, I won't tell you again.
01:05:19You're going to vote for me or else you'll be sorry.
01:05:25Unbelievable.
01:05:28Here it is.
01:05:31I had a chuckle when I read this headline from the New York Times, Hushie.
01:05:37Pals say that Al Gore is really a funny guy.
01:05:44Well, there was one time that I laughed at Al Gore, and he was a funny guy.
01:05:52There was, I have to admit, there was just one time he was funny.
01:05:58When he went up and he hugged Bill Clinton, put his arm around him and went to the microphone
01:06:05and said, Bill Clinton will go down in history as one of the greatest presidents of all time.
01:06:13Now, that's when he was hilarious.
01:06:15That was really funny.
01:06:18Funny, funny stuff.
01:06:22One more thing.
01:06:25Jackie Mason, you know, the comedian said some funny stuff.
01:06:29This really isn't funny.
01:06:31It's true.
01:06:33Jackie Mason says this Clinton-Gore administration has behaved so disgustingly corrupt
01:06:42that even an Orthodox Jew couldn't clean up Gore's act.
01:06:48Only God can help Gore.
01:06:51That's from Jackie Mason.
01:06:54Talking about Al Lieberman, I'm sure.
01:06:58He must be a Republican.
01:07:00Okay, Jackie, we'll take a little break now.
01:07:03Hushie tells me I have to zipper my lips, zip, and we'll be right back with some wonderful
01:07:10highlights from the past 18 years of my unbelievably all-American show.
01:07:18I shall return.
01:07:20Don't you dare move an inch.
01:07:23Get your hand away from that clicker.
01:07:31A criminal charge facing you, or maybe if it isn't you, maybe.
01:07:40Pauley!
01:07:41Pauley!
01:07:42Pauley!
01:07:43Pauley!
01:07:44Pauley!
01:07:44Pauley!
01:07:45Pauley!
01:07:46Pauley!
01:07:47Alright, thank you very much.
01:07:49Thank you very much.
01:07:50I'm glad we got rid of that weirdo!
01:07:52How about you?
01:07:56We're going to continue here, David.
01:07:58May I introduce our next guest on the hot seat, and this is a man that I'm sure was
01:08:02going to look familiar to you.
01:08:03We have him on every now and then because he comes up with some ludicrous things.
01:08:07And I just feel that we have to debate these things, and I'm sure many people will recognize
01:08:13him.
01:08:14But anyway, David, introduce him, if you will.
01:08:15I'll introduce him, Wally.
01:08:16Back for a return engagement is my handsome young buddy here, Rudy Kraus, who is...
01:08:21What are you going to attack tonight?
01:08:22You're claiming the cigarette industry has gone communist?
01:08:25We're going to tear apart the un-American tobacco industry.
01:08:28Oh!
01:08:29What?
01:08:30Now, Rudy.
01:08:31Hey, don't stop.
01:08:32Rudy.
01:08:33Haircut!
01:08:34Haircut!
01:08:35Haircut!
01:08:36Haircut!
01:08:37Rudy, wait a minute.
01:08:38Would you tell Albert Einstein how to wear his hair?
01:08:41Rudy!
01:08:42Would you allow...
01:08:43Rudy, you are...
01:08:44Rudy!
01:08:45Rudy, you aren't equating yourself with Albert Einstein.
01:08:48Albert...
01:08:49Albert...
01:08:50Do you know what Einstein stands for?
01:08:51Einstein means one stone.
01:08:52I'm Swaystein.
01:08:54That means two stones.
01:08:55That's right.
01:08:56Rudy.
01:08:57Hey, Rudy.
01:08:58Hey, did you ever think if they took an X-ray of your head, they'd find many stones?
01:09:07They'd find...
01:09:10If they took an X-ray of my head, they wouldn't find an excess of fat like they find in the
01:09:16heads of marijuana smokers.
01:09:18They found...
01:09:19This is critical.
01:09:20Wait a minute.
01:09:21They found in marijuana smokers that the brain of a chronic marijuana smoker weighs three
01:09:26ounces more than the brain of a normal person.
01:09:29Do you know why?
01:09:30Tell me.
01:09:31Why?
01:09:32Why?
01:09:33It weighs more because we think the brain operates on fat.
01:09:39There's a lot of fat.
01:09:40We can think very good with fat.
01:09:41Wait a minute.
01:09:42Listen.
01:09:43Rudy.
01:09:44This is critical.
01:09:45You know what happens?
01:09:46The brain of the marijuana smoker atrophies, so fat collects up in their brain and they're
01:09:50fatheads.
01:09:51Rudy.
01:09:52That's right.
01:09:53Rudy.
01:09:54Rudy.
01:09:55Rudy.
01:09:56Rudy.
01:09:57Hold him.
01:09:58Rudy, I have to agree with you on that.
01:09:59But you have made a serious, hold it, you have made a serious charge towards the tobacco
01:10:11industry in this country.
01:10:13You say the tobacco industry is made up of communists.
01:10:16Wait a minute.
01:10:17Listen.
01:10:18They're not.
01:10:19How can you...
01:10:20They're the worst kind.
01:10:21These are the worst kind of communists.
01:10:24They're psych communists.
01:10:25P-S-Y-K-E.
01:10:26Psych communists.
01:10:27Wait a minute.
01:10:28Rudy.
01:10:29Rudy.
01:10:30Wait a minute.
01:10:31What does psych communists mean?
01:10:32They're breaking the U.S. from the inside.
01:10:33Hoover said that the communists wouldn't have an open offensive against the U.S.
01:10:34They would break the U.S. from the inside.
01:10:35Now, how would they break the U.S. from the inside?
01:10:36Wait a minute.
01:10:37Rudy.
01:10:38Inside.
01:10:39How can you...
01:10:40This is serious.
01:10:41I'm sure there are people who are watching in Virginia and...
01:10:42Oh, Virginia slams?
01:10:43No, no.
01:10:44Oh.
01:10:45Oh, oh, oh.
01:10:46I'm sorry.
01:10:47I'm sorry.
01:10:48I'm sorry.
01:10:49I'm sorry.
01:10:50I'm sorry.
01:10:51I'm sorry.
01:10:52I'm sorry.
01:10:53I'm sorry.
01:10:54I'm sorry.
01:10:55I'm sorry.
01:10:56I'm sorry.
01:10:57Rudy, I'm sure...
01:10:58Rudy's hot tonight.
01:10:59I'm sure there are people, Rudy, in the tobacco industry who take great affront to the fact
01:11:07that you are saying that the members of the tobacco industry are subversive communists
01:11:12and is a communist conspiracy in the tobacco industry.
01:11:16How can you defend that?
01:11:18First of all, we've got to find...
01:11:19Talk to me, Rudy.
01:11:20We've got to define what a communist is.
01:11:22A communist is anyone who subverts the best interests of the American people.
01:11:26American people. Is that correct? No Rudy, no Rudy. A communist is a believer of the
01:11:33communist philosophy and supports the philosophy and the Soviet Union. Like
01:11:38what? Killing Americans? No, wait a minute Rudy. With cigarette suicide? Long-range
01:11:42cigarette suicide? Rudy, cigarettes cause brain damage. But you can't, but you...
01:11:47Don't say you. What do you mean you can't? Don't say you meaning me when you mean
01:11:52yourself. I can. Maybe you can't, but I can. I'll take on those cigarette creeps.
01:11:59Rudy. It's like communist conspiracy. Got the U.S. in diminished capacity, an American
01:12:06tobacco industry. You destroyed the family. Brought us pain and misery. You're the common enemy.
01:12:12Rudy.
01:12:20Rudy. Now you can't run and you can't hide, cause we see through your red disguise. Rudy. Hold it.
01:12:29Wait a minute. We will fight your lies. Rudy. Hold it. No singing.
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01:13:40Amos cookie. Pardon me folks, I have to get my energy here. Well you know when
01:13:47you get to be 40, you know, you begin, your energy begins to to wane and I will
01:13:55be 40 in a few months. You believe that Hershey? Yeah. Strange, you and I started
01:14:02out the same age when we started here. And I look so old. And now you're 20
01:14:07years older than I am. Strange, I guess I'll never catch up. Okay, I didn't mean
01:14:17to ignore my beautiful daughter. Holly George is my special guest once again
01:14:22today. Give her a close-up so the people at home can see how beautiful she looks.
01:14:27You know how, what they say Hershey, the camera loves her, right? That's right.
01:14:32Give her another close-up. Look at that, look at that, look at yourself in there.
01:14:37You look wonderful. The camera loves this person. Chip off the old block, right?
01:14:46Okay, ladies and gentlemen, proud to introduce my wonderful daughter who is
01:14:53the light of my life. I don't know what I'd do if I didn't didn't have you, Holly.
01:14:57But we have fun together, don't we? Tell the people at home some of the
01:15:01things you and I do together. Movies. Movies and bowling.
01:15:07Shopping. Poker. Pool. Arcades. Arcades, all right. There's a great, there's a great
01:15:15place in Irvine called... D&B. D&B. Dave & Buster's. Dave & Buster's. Have you ever
01:15:25heard of Dave & Buster's? Great place. Biggest, it looks like a Little Vegas for
01:15:31the whole family and they have this huge arcade room for the whole family
01:15:38with every kind of a thing you can imagine. There are pool tables where the kids
01:15:45can play pool with their parents. Fun, isn't it? Now, Holly is here primarily to
01:15:54answer a few more of your email messages and questions, right? When are you
01:16:00starting school again? The 30th. The 30th, okay. That's a Wednesday, right? Yes, Wednesday.
01:16:06That's a week... It's a week from today. From today, right. She's starting a new
01:16:13school, too, but we're not going to tell you where. Okay, let's get to our first
01:16:17email message here. From who? From Tom K. From? From... what's his name? Pulitzer. Pulitzer? Okay.
01:16:26Dear Holly, is your dad nice to you? Is he real strict or does he spoil you? Okay, how
01:16:32do you answer that on camera, too? All right, first of all, am I real strict? Yes. I am not.
01:16:41He's really nice. Really nice, yet spoils me. I do spoil you? Yes. I do spoil her. I mean,
01:16:50hardly a day goes by... I can't remember the last time that you asked me for
01:16:55something that I didn't get it for you. Can you? No. Okay, next message. From who?
01:17:04From Bill K. Okay. From Orange. To Holly, I think you're very pretty.
01:17:12Do you have a boyfriend? How about me? I'm 12 years old.
01:17:17You'll have to go through me, belly boy. You have to go through me, send me your picture and your
01:17:23resume, and I'll have to also talk to your father and mother on the phone. You go through me before
01:17:30you talk to her. Okay, next one. Roger F., from Burbank. Okay. Dear Holly, are you going to be a star
01:17:39on TV or in the movies, like your father and sister, or do you like to be on TV?
01:17:47Well, what do you think, Holly? Look into camera two when you answer them. I would rather be in
01:17:51the movies. You'd rather be in the movies? Yes. Than on TV? Yes. You don't like TV? I like the
01:17:57movies better, though. Being an actress? Would you be a dramatic actress or a comedian?
01:18:03I'd be both. I'd like to be both. A little bit of maybe singing and dancing, too? Okay, so
01:18:11the movies, you know, my mother was in the movies. Her sister is in the movies.
01:18:18I've been in five movies, playing cameo roles, and now my youngest daughter, Holly, she's going
01:18:25to be in the movies. I'll bet you make it, Holly. I'll make sure that it happens. Okay, next. It's
01:18:31from Larry J. in Van Nuys. Van Nuys. Dear Holly, what do you think about your dad yelling at people
01:18:38on his show? Does he ever yell when he's not doing his show? Well, first of all, what do you think
01:18:46about me yelling all the time on my show? What do you think about that? Very different. Do you like
01:18:51it, though? When I call people jerks and morons? Okay, and then the second one was,
01:18:59does he ever yell when he's not doing his show? No. I do sometimes. Sometimes I yell. Everybody
01:19:08does. You're honest, Dad. I have to be honest. Not much, but a little bit. Okay, I've yelled at
01:19:15Hushie maybe 80 or 90 times. No, I haven't. I never yelled at you that way. Have I, Hushie? No, Holly.
01:19:25Hushie's getting sad. No, I kissed him on the cheek yesterday morning. All right, from where?
01:19:31Last one. Jerry S. in LA. Okay. Hello, Holly. Are you happy to go back to school? Are you a good
01:19:39student? What grades do you get? All right, number one. Let's answer each one. Are you happy to go
01:19:45back to school? Yes, I am. Are you happy to go to a new school? Yeah. Okay. Are you a good student?
01:19:52I'm a great student. I actually graduated with honors. With honors, Hushie? Right.
01:19:58I got an award. With me at Hollywood Wood
01:20:03Professional School, I graduated with a kick in the pants out the back door.
01:20:10The only reason I graduated from Hollywood Professional School is they wanted to get rid
01:20:15of me. All right, now, what grades do you get? And you get A's. Yeah, my award was for
01:20:24getting no less than a B. No less than a B. Right. Hushie, can you and I say that? Yeah. No. I don't
01:20:31think so. Right. I never really tried that that much, though. I was putting on putting on
01:20:38shows all the time in my classroom. All right, we're going to I want to thank you for coming
01:20:43down. You did a beautiful job. Give her one more close up so she can do want to say goodbye to
01:20:48everybody. Goodbye. And ask them to write to you. Write to me. I love fan mail. She loves
01:20:57fan mail. I would like to come back and read more. Okay, let's let's put the address up. In fact,
01:21:03let's put the address up. In fact, instead of writing to Wally George, you can write to Holly
01:21:09George at P.O. Box four nine four two. Garden Grove, California, nine two eight four two. That's
01:21:16P.O. Box four nine four two. Garden Grove, California, nine two eight four two. Or you
01:21:23can email email Holly at my Web site, which is Wally George dot com. And you can just
01:21:34send a message along. I can't believe it, but this individual thinks that he's going to.
01:23:53You.
01:24:13Moron.
01:24:23Oh, he's already he's already admitted that as a United States congressman,
01:24:31hold it. He has hired for his own personal pleasure,
01:24:35male prostitutes. And for that alone, he does not belong in the United States Congress.
01:24:41Oh, I want to ask you a question. How many people do you know call and hire female nude
01:24:53strippers like the lady you're going to have on this show later to come in and strip in office
01:24:57parties who happen to be prostitutes? How many people? And so what I'm saying is if men do it.
01:25:12Oh, he didn't just he didn't just hire them to look at them. He's admitted that he's a gay.
01:25:19He's admitted that all through his his term in Congress, he has a sexual homosexual relationship.
01:25:31Listen, it's like Barney. Barney Frank is not the first guy to swish around Washington, D.C.
01:25:38You're you're and you're naive if you think he is. Hey, wait a minute.
01:25:43Are you? Hey, here's a here's a picture of your pal Barney Frank. There he is.
01:25:51It says it says, hold it. A congressman, a congressman talks about his
01:25:57double life. Maybe, Tony, you want to tell us about your double life.
01:26:08All I can say is, yes, yes, I will. Are you personally interested? Oh,
01:26:17are you saying I wonder, I wonder, Tony, Tony, Tony, I know you spend a lot of time
01:26:25in Washington, D.C. Have you ever attended some of Barney's parties at his house?
01:26:31You know, actually, to be to be to be totally honest, Barney's more in your age range than mine.
01:26:45Oh, I know, Wally, Wally. How many how many people think he's a real good buddy of Barney's?
01:26:51Hey, look at that stupid little string tie he's got on.
01:27:12Hey, Tony, this is a lot more steep than the Eisenhower look over there.
01:27:16All right. Wally, Wally, Wally, you are so dimwitted. You think Barney Frank is an Oscar
01:27:25Mayer wiener? So a therapeutic massage. Oh, wonderful.
01:27:33Thank you, Wally George, for your discount and your free autograph photo.
01:27:38Yeah, yeah, yeah. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you very much. Welcome back, everybody.
01:27:51Thank you very much. Welcome back to Hot Seat all across this great nation on the Channel
01:27:55America television network. Now, before I go any further, you probably have noticed I now
01:28:01have the Wally tranquilizer here. And I want to see this is the little Wally block that I use.
01:28:10And this was was was specially made for me as a gift from Superior Designs, a guy named Mark,
01:28:21who is the brother of one of our guards here from Roberts Protection. So I want to thank Mark
01:28:26and Superior Designs for my gavel block. How about that, guys? Okay. All right.
01:28:35Hey, wait a minute, pal. Use your head as the gavel block. Hey, wait a minute.
01:28:45You got nothing but wood up there anyway, so you might as well use your head.
01:28:48Hey, hold on. Hold on. One more word out of you and I'll break your nose with this.
01:28:59Now it's time to introduce this idiot, Mustafa Ghadir.
01:29:03He is here to tell me convicted first degree murderers should never be executed.
01:29:09Oh, that's right. Hold on. Before I say one thing, I want all this subhuman group out of here.
01:29:23They're not even worthy of the debate.
01:29:26Listen, you always condemn my stewarding audience. You know why? Because you feel
01:29:32inferior to my audience out there. This group I feel inferior to? Come on, this is an amoeba.
01:29:43That's right. A group of amoebas. A group of amoebas.
01:29:47Hey, the people here in my studio audience have five times the IQ that you have.
01:29:55Now, hold on a minute. How can you possibly say,
01:29:59hold on guys, how can you possibly say that convicted killers like Robert Alton Harris
01:30:04should not be executed? I say execution is justice.
01:30:12Why are you against that, Mustafa?
01:30:14First of all, we are a Christian nation in this country. I know you're not a Christian.
01:30:19I am a Christian. I am a Christian.
01:30:22No Christian would condemn someone to death.
01:30:25All right.
01:30:25That's part of the Ten Commandments.
01:30:28Let me answer that, Mustafa.
01:30:29Go right ahead.
01:30:30I'm so glad he brought that up. Because you know what? I am a Christian.
01:30:35Thou shalt not kill. Moses came down with the tablets.
01:30:39Hold on, Mustafa. Let me answer you.
01:30:46Let me answer you.
01:30:48Let me answer you.
01:30:49Don't pound that hammer on me.
01:30:52I'm going to answer you.
01:30:54You say I'm not a Christian. I am a Christian.
01:30:56And sure, it says in the Ten Commandments, thou shalt not kill.
01:31:02Well, let me tell you this, you nitwit.
01:31:07Execution is not killing. It is just punishment.
01:31:17Wait, wait. But since you mentioned Christianity,
01:31:20let me remind you, of course you wouldn't know, in the Scriptures,
01:31:24in the Scriptures, it says right there in the Bible,
01:31:28he who spilleth man's blood, so shall his blood be spilled.
01:31:34There you go.
01:31:37That's in the Scriptures.
01:31:39Yeah, that's in the Scriptures, but that's not the Word of God.
01:31:42The Word of God is thou shalt not kill.
01:31:44And that means distinct. That means individuals. That means everybody.
01:31:48Wait, wait a minute.
01:31:51Don't you dare bang my desk.
01:31:55Now, wait a minute.
01:31:56Shut up out there.
01:32:00Shut up out there.
01:32:17I knew it would have to be two against one.
01:32:38I knew it would have to be two against one.
01:32:40Now, we will not.
01:32:48Now, now let me answer you.
01:32:51You see, hold on.
01:32:53He keeps, he keeps reciting the Ten Commandments.
01:32:58Thou shalt not kill.
01:33:00I repeat, executing a murder is not killing.
01:33:04It is executing, and that is justice.
01:33:08An execution of a killer is not killing, is it?
01:33:14Now, let me tell you this.
01:33:15Robert Alton Harris, in this famous case,
01:33:19Robert Alton Harris brutally murdered two teenage boys
01:33:25just so he could steal their car to rob a bank.
01:33:28And then after he blew their brains out,
01:33:30he sat there in the car and ate their hamburgers.
01:33:35Now, are you trying, are you trying to tell me that that,
01:33:41that that maniac should not have gone to the gas chamber?
01:33:46Well, let me tell you this.
01:33:48Robert Harris is a man who suffers from fetal alcohol syndrome.
01:33:56Now, shut up so I can speak.
01:33:58Why?
01:34:02When you have that type of condition,
01:34:04you do not profit from your mistakes,
01:34:06and you are not able to control your actions.
01:34:09This is a sick man who needs medical attention.
01:34:12Oh, wait a minute, wait a minute.
01:34:16Medical attention.
01:34:17Wait a minute, wait a minute.
01:34:19If anybody needs medical attention, it's him.
01:34:25Now, wait a minute.
01:34:27In this country, Wally, we don't kill people who have mental conditions.
01:34:31And this man obviously has a mental condition.
01:34:33He needs to get some special help.
01:34:35Well, in that case, now, I guess we're never going to be able to kill him, are we?
01:34:40Now, let me tell you something.
01:34:42I am sick and tired of this kind of a cop-out.
01:34:45Every time we get a murderer up there,
01:34:47he's screamed and his lawyers keep saying temporary insanity,
01:34:51or they say he came from a brutal family,
01:34:54or he had some kind of brain damage.
01:34:58They always use that.
01:34:59Hey, hold it.
01:35:01Mustafa, there are plenty of people who have been actually born,
01:35:07and their mothers drank alcohol,
01:35:11and they had the same thing happen to them.
01:35:13And some of their parents smoked pot during pregnancy.
01:35:18And a lot of kids came from lousy homes.
01:35:20But they didn't go on to become murderers.
01:35:23Robert Alton Harris knew exactly what he was doing.
01:35:26And that's why I say I want to go there and pull the lever and watch him die.
01:35:35I want to see Robert Alton Harris suffer the way those two teenage boys had to suffer.
01:35:47And you call yourself a Christian while you're inciting this lynch mob out here
01:35:51to run out here and take justice into their own hands.
01:35:55Hey, wait a minute.
01:35:57One more.
01:35:58One more quote from the scripture.
01:36:00An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth.
01:36:03I'll be right back.
01:36:07What of you out there who think that the law is very soft on criminals?
01:36:13Well, that's not my domain.
01:36:21I'm a police officer.
01:36:24I deal with enforcement, protection, investigation, apprehension.
01:36:37OK.
01:36:38And now, well, he's back again, Bill.
01:36:40And you do the honors.
01:36:42If honors, boy, do whatever you have to do.
01:36:44OK.
01:36:45Well, Wally, right next to me here, we have a liberal lunatic hairball.
01:36:49Yeah.
01:36:51Who now has a new, new harebrained idea, which is called cop stoppers.
01:36:57This is Rudy Kraut.
01:36:58Here's Rudy.
01:37:06All right.
01:37:06Now, Rudy, let me tell you, you've been coming on this show now for six years and you always
01:37:12have some kind of ridiculous thing.
01:37:14But now I am really upset with you because I'm sick and tired of idiots like you in this
01:37:21country who are coming down on our great police officers.
01:37:25And I say they are doing a great job for society.
01:37:29They're putting their lives on the line every day.
01:37:32Even for people like you, Rudy, whether you believe it or not, they're putting their lives
01:37:36on the line.
01:37:37They're trying to protect us.
01:37:39God knows what would happen if we didn't have these police officers on the streets.
01:37:42We'd have anarchy.
01:37:44And you are bringing these cops down and forming an organization called cop stoppers.
01:37:49I say it's ludicrous.
01:37:50What do you say?
01:37:54Now, why, why are you, why have you formed this organization called cop stoppers?
01:37:59Because we, we need a kinder, gentler police force.
01:38:07Yeah, we've got, we've got, we've got a bunch of punk cops out there cruising for a bruising
01:38:13out there, abusing their role for social control, hitting hurt and push innocence to
01:38:19the dirt.
01:38:19Like with this Jackson case, we got Long Beach police officer Dickey.
01:38:25And what's he do?
01:38:25He's a racist.
01:38:26He pushes a black man into a plate glass window.
01:38:30Now, wait, wait a minute.
01:38:32Hold on, Rudy.
01:38:33I, I resent you taking on, hold it, you know, I resent you taking on the police officers
01:38:39and calling them racist and calling them all kinds of things like that.
01:38:42The great majority of police officers in this country are doing a great job.
01:38:47And I think he should admit to that.
01:38:48Don't you, that's, that's why, that's why, that's why we have from the Los Angeles times
01:38:59clan style bias alleged at central jail where we have cross burnings with heavy metal music
01:39:06in the background and the black modules where the crips and the bloods are.
01:39:11Oh, Rudy.
01:39:12Cross burnings.
01:39:13That's right.
01:39:13And Sherman block.
01:39:14Does he say anything about it?
01:39:16No, because Sherman block is a skinhead too.
01:39:19Oh, wait a minute.
01:39:24Are you saying that police officers here in Los Angeles are skinheads?
01:39:28They're skinheads.
01:39:29Oh, that's right.
01:39:33Now, wait, wait, wait a minute, Rudy, wait a minute.
01:39:38I will not sit here and have you say that because I know many police officers, police
01:39:42chief Darrell Gates, and many on the LAPD and here in Orange County.
01:39:46And I, I resent you.
01:39:48I'm not allow you to call them.
01:39:49Wait a minute.
01:39:50I'm not allow you to call them skinheads and racist because I'll tell you, there may be
01:39:54a couple.
01:39:54There are a couple of bad apples in every barrel, right?
01:39:57The whole barrel is rotten.
01:40:00The whole barrel is not rotten.
01:40:01Hey, the only thing rotten in this studio is Rudy.
01:40:04What do you think?
01:40:06Look, what we need, what we need is a police candid camera, a video Serpico, an internal
01:40:17investigation task force to police the police.
01:40:20Like Nazi Germany, right?
01:40:22Huh?
01:40:22Wait a minute.
01:40:23The police are acting like Nazi Germany right now.
01:40:26Look what they do when they take someone suspected of being under the influence of alcohol.
01:40:30The police take him into custody.
01:40:32They take them to the police station and the police administer the test.
01:40:36It is a double jeopardy situation.
01:40:39It is unconstitutional.
01:40:41It is prejudicial.
01:40:43What we need.
01:40:44Now listen up.
01:40:50Don't tell my audience to listen up.
01:40:52Now listen, listen, listen.
01:40:57Wally, is not that situation prejudicial?
01:41:00Shouldn't the person who is suspected of being under the influence be taken to a neutral
01:41:05drug, alcohol center?
01:41:07Yes, because any other way is prejudicial.
01:41:11I say we need a no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
01:41:16You guys, you guys, you guys are throwing away your rights.
01:41:22We need a bias independent party to administer drug.
01:41:27And it will create a million multi-million dollar enterprise in the state of California.
01:41:32Hold on.
01:41:33I tell you, I trust our police officers to do those tests.
01:41:36And I'll tell you, you say that they get rough on people that they arrest.
01:41:40Well, hey, can you imagine what a police officer feels if he tries to arrest a lunatic
01:41:45like this guy?
01:41:48Well, well, Wally, I re I rewrote police story to be more correct.
01:41:52It's now called big story.
01:41:54Oh, and that's for that's for police integrity.
01:42:00God, Rudy, Rudy, hold on, Rudy, Rudy, Rudy, hold on a minute.
01:42:06What what would we do without the police officers in this county and in this country?
01:42:11Rudy, can you imagine if we did not have the if we did not have police officers on the
01:42:17streets of L.A. today or and all over this country?
01:42:20There would be anarchy in the streets.
01:42:23You should, Rudy, get down on your knees every day.
01:42:26And thank God we have police officers here in the United States of America.
01:42:35How dare you?
01:42:36How dare you say that all the apples are rotten in the barrel?
01:42:41How dare you?
01:42:41L.A.'s L.A.'s finest are not.
01:42:45Oh, Rudy, L.A.'s finest are not fine.
01:42:54Fine enough.
01:42:55Why did why did?
01:42:58Yeah, what do they do?
01:42:59What do they do?
01:43:00They go and bust up a Samoan bridal party.
01:43:03Real good.
01:43:04It takes a lot of men, he men to batter a bunch of women, Samoan women at that Rudy
01:43:10Fuji.
01:43:11She could have wiped them all out.
01:43:12But the Samoans are gentle.
01:43:14Why don't you hold on, Rudy?
01:43:16Right here.
01:43:16It says a videotape of the incident made by neighbors shows one deputy clubbing a person
01:43:21lying face down on the driveway, his hands cuffed behind his back.
01:43:27Wait a minute.
01:43:31Rudy, why don't you talk about the thousands of police officers who have been beaten and
01:43:37killed in the line of duty?
01:43:39Do you know how many police officers lose their lives just in traffic violations when
01:43:44they pull a car over?
01:43:46There have been literally hundreds of officers here in the United States who've had their
01:43:50heads blown off just for traffic violations.
01:43:53Do you know, Rudy, every time a police officer leaves his home, his wife and family never
01:43:59know if he's going to come back alive.
01:44:02Let's talk about the police officers who've laid down their lives and have died for all
01:44:07of us.
01:44:07How about that?
01:44:10How do you answer that?
01:44:11We need.
01:44:12How do you answer that?
01:44:13I want to phase out.
01:44:15I want to phase out.
01:44:16How do you answer that?
01:44:16I want to phase out the sheriff's psychos who maim and destroy the people.
01:44:21Oh.
01:44:21The program is, it is to, it is to serve and protect, not harass and kick ass.
01:44:28Wait.
01:44:30We need law enforcement psychiatrists in every police and sheriff's station to monitor police
01:44:35psychology, to uncover unfit officers, to prevent police harassment, and to monitor
01:44:42and protect the prisoners.
01:44:44We need, hey, hey, we need someone to monitor you and put him in the, put him in the funny
01:44:49form.
01:44:50I'll be right back.
01:44:54I'm back, Wally George here with Hot Seat Looking.
01:44:56Well, Ted, that, that woman, I've had it up to here with her.
01:44:58She's an idiot, isn't she?
01:45:00Can you, Bill, can you imagine the worst nightmare would be being married to that pimple?
01:45:10That's one of those situations you wouldn't want to wake up without a gun.
01:45:13She was one of the most intelligent people I've ever heard on your show.
01:45:23She made you sound like the brainless idiot that you are.
01:45:25Hey, you may get kicked off the show before you're even introduced.
01:45:39Just keep your, keep your thoughts to yourself until you're introduced.
01:45:42I may run off the stage screaming, looking at these slobbering idiots.
01:45:55I can tell those people will shut up.
01:46:03Now, wait till you're, you're not even on the show yet.
01:46:05Will you hold your, hold your stupid slimy tongue?
01:46:10Hey, Wally, you know what he asked me when he sat down?
01:46:12He says, did she leave that banana?
01:46:14Well, Bill, finally, I guess we will formally bring this little rodent onto the program
01:46:21if you want to.
01:46:21Well, he wants to debate you on the issue of the FCC's crackdown.
01:46:24No, I don't want to debate you.
01:46:25I am going to debate you.
01:46:27All right.
01:46:29He's going to give it a shot here anyway.
01:46:31And this bill isn't worthy enough to even introduce me.
01:46:34Will you call me?
01:46:37I love Victory Magazine.
01:46:39I read it.
01:46:40I get diarrhea and then I use it.
01:46:46Okay, let's get it on the, to the serious part of it.
01:46:49He wants to talk about the FCC crackdown on,
01:46:52on different radio stations here in the Los Angeles area with regard to obscenity.
01:46:56Here's the authority on obscenity because he is one.
01:47:00Jim Meyers.
01:47:05All right.
01:47:06Now, finally, we're going to talk about what you're here for.
01:47:09The FCC, the Federal Communications Commission,
01:47:12is cracking down on radio stations across America.
01:47:15One station right here in Los Angeles, KFI, should have been fined $6,000.
01:47:21Fascist moral pigs.
01:47:27You see, America, we have got to wake up to the fact that Wally George and people like him
01:47:33are communists.
01:47:36They want to take over our whole country.
01:47:38I'm sick of it.
01:47:40I'm sick of it.
01:47:41And I'm here to hopefully help you wake up to the fact that we have got to do away with
01:47:46people like him.
01:47:47He should be banned from the media.
01:47:49He is a negative force in our society.
01:47:52He is for repression.
01:47:54He is for a fascist state.
01:47:55He is for a moral police state.
01:47:57Hey, why don't you let him say what he says?
01:47:59I'll tell you.
01:47:59Shut your face.
01:48:00Oh, really?
01:48:18You will not insult...
01:48:40Will you knock it off?
01:48:43Hey, did anyone ever tell you that you look
01:48:48Do I look like an ugly peewee Herman?
01:48:50Yeah!
01:48:52You look like a human skeleton covered with skin.
01:48:58What we're doing here...
01:49:00Let me tell the people what we're talking about here.
01:49:03The Federal Communications Commission
01:49:06is going around the country
01:49:08listening to radio stations
01:49:10and trying to determine things that they think...
01:49:12Are obscene, right.
01:49:13What's obscene?
01:49:14Let me finish.
01:49:17Then they're finding radio stations,
01:49:20they're taking away licenses,
01:49:22just like a communist,
01:49:24Gestapo police state.
01:49:26I hate it,
01:49:27and you guys should be terribly afraid of it.
01:49:29And you should be terribly afraid of this man,
01:49:31and this man,
01:49:32and George Bush.
01:49:37You listen to me America,
01:49:39you must wake up to the fact
01:49:41that we are heading towards communism
01:49:43while the rest of the world is heading away from it.
01:49:46Hey, you know what?
01:49:47I'm really afraid of this little guy.
01:49:49You know what I'm afraid of?
01:49:51I'm afraid if I watch him anymore,
01:49:52I'm going to throw up.
01:49:56You're the most intelligent person
01:49:58you've ever had on your show.
01:50:00You're not even a person.
01:50:06What I'm saying is...
01:50:07Don't point your bony finger at me.
01:50:09I'll get up and rip it right off your arm.
01:50:11Oh!
01:50:15See, he thinks he's a big dealer on his own show.
01:50:18If I get him off this stage,
01:50:20I'd knock his damn face off.
01:50:28Hold on, hold on.
01:50:30I'm really frightened of this 84 pound weakling, huh?
01:50:35Hey, you know what Bill?
01:50:37I'm really afraid to fight you.
01:50:38I'm afraid I'll kill you, that's why.
01:50:42Kill him, kill him.
01:50:44No, I want to tell you something.
01:50:45I say this.
01:50:46The FCC has the right to watch what's going on,
01:50:50to monitor radio stations.
01:50:52Listen closely now.
01:50:53All right, hold on.
01:50:54The FCC is the Federal Communications Commission.
01:50:57Now, the government grants licenses
01:51:00to people to own radio stations.
01:51:03That is not a license to get on the air
01:51:06and say any four letter words you want to say.
01:51:09See, he thinks people are stupid.
01:51:11The fact is that that kind of radio station is very popular.
01:51:15That means the people have spoken.
01:51:17They want to listen to it.
01:51:18The ratings skyrocket on all these stations.
01:51:20I have news for you.
01:51:21It's wonderful, it's America.
01:51:23People are listening to what they want.
01:51:24They're not listening.
01:51:25Along comes the police state
01:51:27and tries to take those rights away.
01:51:29Do you know, I'm trying to tell you this, you idiot.
01:51:31Not very well.
01:51:33All right, for an example,
01:51:35you cannot go into a public restaurant, for example,
01:51:38go into a restaurant and stand on your table
01:51:40and shout the F word in the middle of a restaurant.
01:51:43What'll happen?
01:51:44They'll throw you out of the restaurant, won't they?
01:51:47So if you can't say it in the middle of a restaurant,
01:51:50why in the heck should you be able to say it
01:51:52on a radio station, right?
01:51:55How do you answer that?
01:51:57Wally lives 1,000 years ago.
01:51:59Words don't hurt people.
01:52:01Repression and right-wing fascist policies
01:52:04are what hurts us.
01:52:05But Jim, you talk about the rights.
01:52:07But you talk about people's rights.
01:52:08What about my right not to have to hear that?
01:52:10That's right. How about that?
01:52:12Yeah, right on.
01:52:13You have no idea.
01:52:16You see, in a free society,
01:52:18people have the right to choose.
01:52:20If Billy here can't stand the F word,
01:52:22he might be able to manage to turn down and turn the dial.
01:52:26Well, even he could turn a dial.
01:52:28Jimmy, hold on, Jimmy.
01:52:30His wife could help him.
01:52:31Jimmy, hold on, sweetheart.
01:52:34He forgets it's a free country.
01:52:38And now, David, it's time to grill
01:52:42our first victim on tonight's hot seat.
01:52:44Okay, first up on the hot seat tonight, Wally,
01:52:47from K-Rock Radio, the poor man.
01:52:50Here he is.
01:52:53Oh!
01:53:16Whoa!
01:53:18Did I introduce the wrong group?
01:53:20Let me introduce the wrong group.
01:53:26This doesn't look like the poor man to me.
01:53:28First let me ask, poor man.
01:53:30Hi Wally.
01:53:32Poor man.
01:53:34Why did you bring all these girls on the show here?
01:53:36Alright, Wally.
01:53:38No, no, the reason I brought them out.
01:53:40Now Wally, I don't mean to be rude or anything,
01:53:42but you have your bodyguards and they do a very good job I'm sure.
01:53:45These are my bodyguards.
01:53:47Hello.
01:53:53How many of you people in the audience think Wally should get some bodyguards like this?
01:54:06First of all...
01:54:08They do a pretty good job guiding your body.
01:54:10You know it.
01:54:12Hey poor man, let me tell you.
01:54:14Not only is it obvious that you are disgusting and degrading on the radio,
01:54:18and also now on television,
01:54:20but now I can see, the people at home can see,
01:54:22look what he's doing.
01:54:24He's a slimeball!
01:54:26Thank you very much.
01:54:28He is right now, look what he's doing.
01:54:30He's making out with sub-teenagers.
01:54:39Wally, Wally.
01:54:41These kids must be 14 years old.
01:54:43I'm not denying anything you say except for one thing,
01:54:45and I'm smart like you.
01:54:47I did check their ID, they're all legal.
01:54:49Oh sure.
01:54:53This one over here on the end,
01:54:55looks like she's about 14 years old.
01:54:57What do you think?
01:55:01She's 23.
01:55:0323.
01:55:0523 what?
01:55:09Hold it gang.
01:55:11Your radio show is very degrading,
01:55:13and very disgusting,
01:55:15and I think you have a young audience
01:55:17who are watching you and listening to you on radio,
01:55:19and I think you have a terrible image,
01:55:21and you're really degrading
01:55:23to the young people of America
01:55:25who listen to you.
01:55:27Not only are you on radio,
01:55:29now I'm sorry to say,
01:55:31he's on this station here in Los Angeles.
01:55:33That's right.
01:55:35Wally.
01:55:37Wally.
01:55:39I just want to say,
01:55:41the poor man philosophy is that you can have
01:55:43a great time without spending big bucks.
01:55:45Now, look at it this way guys.
01:55:47How much did you spend on these girls?
01:55:55They zeroed in on us.
01:55:57I could never see the connection myself.
01:56:01That same year, ACDC found themselves
01:56:03at the center of another controversy
01:56:05when the Parents Music Resource Center,
01:56:07led by a group of U.S. Senators' wives
01:56:09including Tipper Gore,
01:56:11placed ACDC at the top of a list of artists
01:56:13they deemed obscene.
01:56:21The attacks on ACDC
01:56:23continued through the mid-80s,
01:56:25but the band ignored their critics
01:56:27and focused their energy on a string of gold records
01:56:29and one concert tour after another.
01:56:31As long as we've got clubs to play,
01:56:33we're cool.
01:56:35We play all around the world in clubs.
01:56:37Hey, what a life.
01:56:39So, we were never, you know,
01:56:41felt defeated.
01:56:45Still, the years since Bon Scott's death
01:56:47had taken a toll on Malcolm.
01:56:49His drinking had steadily increased
01:56:51and in April of 88, he finally bottomed out.
01:56:57My drinking overtook,
01:56:59you know,
01:57:01my whole thing.
01:57:03Um...