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00:00My father was angry with Mr.Vairamuthu till his last breath.
00:07He never called Mr.Vairamuthu.
00:09Shankar Ganesan used to say,
00:11It will be good if Mr.Vairamuthu writes this song.
00:16He used to say, It will be good if he writes this song.
00:18But it is better for you to lose your job.
00:23He writes very well.
00:26Mr.Vairamuthu will be a real talent in the cinema industry.
00:31He will definitely come to a great level.
00:33So we will give him two songs.
00:35We will use it.
00:40We have to change his name.
00:42So I was worried.
00:44I asked him what he was writing.
00:46He told me to change his name.
00:48I told him to go to the company and change his name.
00:50I told him to go to the company and change his name.
00:52I told him to go to the company and change his name.
00:55I told Mr.Vairamuthu to go to the company and change his name.
00:57Then my first movie was Nizhagal in a print media.
01:01Then my first movie was Nizhagal in a print media.
01:03My first song was Nizhagal.
01:08I don't know the justification to that.
01:10I don't know the justification to that.
01:13Mr.Ilaiyaraja suggested that I write a song for this movie.
01:16Mr.Ilaiyaraja suggested that I write a song for this movie.
01:18Sivaarswan was Mr.Ilaiyaraja.
01:20First song was recorded for Suvda.
01:22He wrote the song for this film and got the remuneration for it.
01:27Vairamuthu and Ilaiyaraaja know all this.
01:31But in cinema, this is a curse.
01:39You mentioned the film Soolavam.
01:41Yes.
01:42It was Vairamuthu's first film.
01:44But he mentions the film Nillalgal.
01:46What is the reason?
01:48I have heard this from my father.
01:51I'll be frank.
01:53My father was angry with Vairamuthu till his last breath.
02:01When I was making films like Thiruppal Thiruthapadalam, Dhandikapattinayayam, Pournameelai...
02:06Shankar Ganesan was the music director at that time.
02:11They used to come to the office in the morning to have breakfast and compose till night.
02:21They used to call poets and they used to come to the office.
02:31They used to ask for the tune and write it down.
02:35It was like that at that time.
02:37When I was young, my father never called Vairamuthu.
02:45I'll be frank.
02:47Vairamuthu didn't want to hurt anyone.
02:50What happened was what happened.
02:52He never called Vairamuthu.
02:54Shankar Ganesan would say,
02:57It would be good if Vairamuthu wrote this song.
03:01He would say, it would be good if he wrote it.
03:04He would say, it would be good if you got a job.
03:07I was young, 12 years old.
03:09He would call me for composing because I was interested in cinema.
03:12I would sit next to him.
03:14I didn't have much knowledge at that time.
03:19I would ask my father, why are you avoiding a great poet?
03:24He would say, it would be good if Vairamuthu wrote this song.
03:30Vairamuthu was at the peak of Ilayaraja's music.
03:34After Ganesan, Vairamuthu was at the peak.
03:37I would ask him, it would be good if you wrote this song.
03:40Why are you avoiding it?
03:42You are travelling with a set hour.
03:45My father would say, there is a reason for that.
03:49He wouldn't say it in detail.
03:51He would say, let it be.
03:54When I was 25-26 years old, I asked my father.
04:03Daddy, Vairamuthu is a great poet.
04:06He has written two songs for our film, Soolam.
04:10Why are you not using him?
04:13Why are you refusing him?
04:15Why are you not giving him an opportunity?
04:18My father said, you don't know certain things.
04:22Rather than hiding it from you, tell me.
04:26I will find out.
04:28One day, he told me.
04:30There was a place called Vijaya Lodge.
04:33It's still there.
04:35The building has been demolished.
04:37Vijaya Lodge is in Balaji Nagar, Rayapet.
04:40When we were shooting Soolam,
04:44there was a small room with an attached bathroom.
04:47A large room was used as an office.
04:50Ilayaraja sir was in charge of music for Soolam.
04:55Ilayaraja sir used to go to the producer's office for composing.
05:03Now, he goes to New Zealand, Switzerland, Dubai, Australia...
05:11There was a time when Ilayaraja sir was very popular.
05:17At that time, Ilayaraja sir and my father had a good understanding.
05:23So, Ilayaraja sir...
05:25Obviously, we used to shoot our own films.
05:28We used to work as producer and director.
05:31He was already a well-known director.
05:34He was popular.
05:36He used to go to Vijaya Lodge to compose.
05:40When he was composing,
05:42there were two songs written by Kavinger Kannadasan.
05:48When he was composing the third song,
05:51my father asked me to include Pulamipithan or Muthilim.
05:59There was a discussion.
06:01He asked me to include Kavinger Kannadasan.
06:06Ilayaraja sir told me about a boy.
06:10He was a professor at Pachai Bus College.
06:14He was a lecturer.
06:16He used to give me songs.
06:18He was a good lyricist.
06:21His name was not Vairamuthu.
06:24I don't know his year.
06:26It was Chinnasamy or Chinnaraja.
06:29His name was like that.
06:33I told him that if he liked my work,
06:36I could use him.
06:38He had a lot of talent.
06:40If I introduced him to cinema,
06:42I thought he would reach a great level.
06:45So, I asked him to come.
06:47He came to Vijaya Lodge for composing.
06:50There was a song called Julie.
06:53There was a song called Poonakanni Julie.
06:56There was a song called Soolam Soolam.
07:00There was a song called Thanmanam Kakkumengal Soolam.
07:04When Vairamuthu sir wrote that song,
07:07I liked the lyrics he wrote.
07:10I liked it.
07:12He wrote it very well.
07:14He was a real talent in the cinema industry.
07:19I thought he would reach a great level.
07:23So, I asked him to use two songs.
07:26We gave two songs to Vairamuthu sir.
07:29That was the first film, Soolam.
07:31Yes, Soolam was the first film.
07:33We gave it to Vairamuthu sir.
07:35He wrote two songs.
07:37I don't know where the recording took place.
07:39I don't know if it was AV or Prasad.
07:41Both the studios were popular at the time.
07:44The recording was being done in the studio.
07:47There was a song called Soolam Soolam.
07:50It was the first song written by Vairamuthu sir.
07:53It was being recorded in the morning sessions.
07:55It was a full orchestra.
07:57It wasn't digital like it is now.
07:59Almost 100-150 people would come.
08:02They would play the song at the same time.
08:05If it was a 5-minute song,
08:07it was a 5-minute song.
08:09Even if someone made a mistake,
08:11it would go to the next take.
08:13Even if it was a small mistake,
08:15it would go to the next take.
08:17It was a full orchestra.
08:19The song was recorded first.
08:21There was another song in the afternoon.
08:23He would record a song in the morning,
08:25record another song in the afternoon,
08:27and finish it at 9 o'clock and leave.
08:29That's how fast he was.
08:31That's how fast he was.
08:33That was the trend.
08:35If he recorded a song in the morning,
08:37he would record another song in the afternoon.
08:39It wouldn't go to our company.
08:41It would go to another company.
08:43We had a theater booked.
08:45For example,
08:47if Balachandar sir records a song in the morning,
08:49Bharathiraja sir would record it in the afternoon.
08:51It would go to another company.
08:53On that day,
08:55two songs would go to Vairamuthu sir.
08:57One song in the morning,
08:59one in the afternoon.
09:01Two songs would go to Vairamuthu sir.
09:03I don't know how much he paid for the two songs.
09:05I don't know how much he paid for the two songs.
09:07I don't know how much he paid for the two songs.
09:09I was very happy.
09:11He was very happy.
09:13He introduced me first.
09:15I can't forget it.
09:17I was very happy.
09:19I think Ilayaraja sir would have
09:21introduced Bharathiraja sir
09:23when the song was being recorded
09:25and the film was being shot.
09:27There is a person like that.
09:29He has written a song in Surulathilai.
09:31Baskar sir has given it.
09:33I know the directors who came at the same time.
09:35Balu Mahendra sir,
09:37Bharathiraja sir,
09:39Mahendran sir, RC Sakthi sir.
09:41They were all directors at the same time.
09:43That's why they would have known.
09:45Baskar sir has given two songs.
09:47Baskar sir has given two songs.
09:49I think he would have given the song.
09:51I don't know the details.
09:53Actually, his first recording
09:55was for a film called Soolam.
09:57There was a song in the morning
09:59and a song in the afternoon.
10:01Nilagal film was released
10:03on the 6th of November 1980.
10:05On the 12th of December 1980,
10:07Soolam was released.
10:09A month before that.
10:11A month before that.
10:13On the 6th and 12th of next month,
10:151980.
10:17The songs in Nilagal
10:19were sung by Bharathiraja sir.
10:21He was the director at the peak.
10:23The songs he had taken,
10:25the songs Ilaiyaraja had sung,
10:27were all sung by him.
10:29He had sung five songs
10:31and five songs were sung by him.
10:33The songs he had sung,
10:35the songs he had sung,
10:37were all sung by him.
10:39The first film he wrote,
10:41Nilagal,
10:43was a big hit within a month.
10:49Another important thing is
10:51Soolam didn't have a CD
10:53at that time.
10:55It was a record.
10:57Like a tape recorder.
10:59They used to put a record
11:01before a tape recorder.
11:03They used to put a record.
11:05There were a lot of companies
11:07like Indigo.
11:09I don't know which company
11:11but they used to print the records.
11:13They used to print the records.
11:15The names of the songs
11:17were printed on the record.
11:19The name of the producer,
11:21the music director,
11:23the photo,
11:25the details were printed.
11:27I don't know the name of
11:29Vairamuthu sir.
11:31I don't know his name.
11:33I don't know his name.
11:35The name of the year
11:37was printed on the record.
11:39He heard about it
11:41and went to the record company.
11:43He said that
11:45his name was Vairamuthu
11:47and asked them
11:49to change it to Cinemakandi Vairamuthu.
11:51They said that
11:53they needed the permission
11:55of the producer-director.
11:57He didn't send a list
11:59but only this name.
12:01I don't know his year.
12:03So, if you want
12:05your name to be Vairamuthu,
12:07get a letter from him
12:09and it will be printed in an hour.
12:11If you come before that,
12:13we will stop it.
12:15We will change it.
12:17Vairamuthu sir
12:19was in a hurry.
12:21He was anxious
12:23to change the name.
12:25They only gave him an hour.
12:27He was anxious
12:29to change the name.
12:31I asked him why he came.
12:33He said that it was a small obligation.
12:35I asked him to tell the company
12:37and change the name.
12:39He said that he needed
12:41his letter.
12:43I asked him what name he wanted.
12:45He said that he wanted
12:47this name.
12:49He gave me the letter.
12:51He took it and gave it to the company.
12:53The name Vairamuthu
12:55was printed in the records.
12:57The film was released
12:59in the middle of the month.
13:01It was in print media
13:03at that time.
13:05There was no TV at that time.
13:07Even Doordarshan was not
13:09that popular.
13:11My first film was Nellagal.
13:13He said that
13:15my first film was Nellagal.
13:17I don't know
13:19the justification for that.
13:23Maybe because it was released earlier...
13:27It could have been released earlier.
13:29How can we change it then?
13:31We can be at any height.
13:33We can sit anywhere.
13:35He is our father.
13:37He is our mother.
13:39How can we change them?
13:41You tell me.
13:43I wrote this song first.
13:45This film came before that.
13:47It's not right to
13:49completely avoid it.
13:51Vairamuthu knows that
13:53I am telling the truth.
13:55He won't deny it.
13:57Ilayaraja knows the truth.
13:59He was the one
14:01who introduced it.
14:03The first song was written
14:05by Ilayaraja.
14:07We don't know
14:09how controversial he is.
14:11We don't know.
14:13Ilayaraja was the one
14:15who suggested
14:17Vairamuthu to write
14:19the song for this film.
14:21The first song was recorded
14:23for Soolam.
14:25He wrote the song for this film.
14:27Vairamuthu and Ilayaraja
14:29know everything.
14:31But in cinema,
14:33it's a curse.
14:35If it becomes popular,
14:37people will immediately
14:39travel to it.
14:41My father didn't use
14:43Vairamuthu at all
14:45in his banner.
14:47He didn't like it.
14:49He was sad.
14:51Vairamuthu is a great poet.
14:53I respect him.
14:55If my father didn't like it,
14:57he wouldn't care
14:59who he was.
15:01No matter how great he was,
15:03he wouldn't care.
15:05I have seen him
15:07go to his house
15:09and his house.
15:11In the studios,
15:13if there was a recording
15:15of Deva sir,
15:17we would have gone to
15:19record a song for our film
15:21and he would have gone
15:23with a little hesitation.
15:25My father would have come
15:27to his house.
15:29All this happened.
15:31I didn't like it.
15:33I introduced myself.
15:35I didn't want to be
15:37introduced in another film.
15:39He was hiding the truth.
15:41So, I didn't use it.
15:43I have my worries.
15:45I always keep my worries strong.
15:49After your father's disappearance,
15:51Oscar Movies didn't develop much.
15:53What's the reason?
15:55What are you doing now?
15:57I'm exporting garments.
15:59That's my main business.
16:05My father was in charge of
16:07writing, story, screenplay,
16:09dialogue, production, and direction.
16:11He was the director
16:13and the producer.
16:15Budget, story, dates,
16:17and artists were under his control.
16:19When he became the director,
16:21he was able to succeed.
16:23He made good films.
16:25He gave successful films.
16:27Another important thing is
16:29after Bhairavi,
16:31he made a film called
16:33Pakkathu Vettu Roja
16:35for Kalangana sir.
16:37After that,
16:39in his total cinema travel,
16:41he didn't make a film
16:43for any banner
16:45or any situation.
16:47That was his policy.
16:49He said,
16:51he was the director,
16:53he was the producer,
16:55and he didn't want to make a film
16:57for anyone.
16:59Another reason is
17:01Bhairavi was released.
17:03The hero,
17:05the artist,
17:07and all the people
17:09who worked on it
17:11went to big stages.
17:13They went to great heights.
17:15He made a hit film
17:17and didn't get another chance
17:19to make a film for a year.
17:21He didn't get the direction.
17:23I don't know the reason.
17:25It happens in cinema.
17:27He came to the conclusion
17:29that if he wanted to travel
17:31as a director,
17:33he had to become
17:35the producer himself.
17:37There was a financier
17:39named C.N.Bhasha in Bandrutti.
17:41There's a photo of him
17:43in our house.
17:45We worship him like a god.
17:47He was the first director
17:49to say,
17:51you made a great film.
17:53Why didn't you get another chance
17:55to make a film?
17:57I'll finance you.
17:59He was the one
18:01who stopped him from doing it.
18:03When we needed it,
18:05no one called us.
18:07When we became popular
18:09and big films came out,
18:11everyone called us
18:13and told us not to make any films.
18:15Sivaji Ganesan's film
18:17called Valkai came out.
18:19Chitra Lakshmanan gave it
18:21in an interview.
18:23He wanted to make a film
18:25under pressure from Sivaji.
18:27He got an advance.
18:29But he gave it back.
18:31He thought that
18:33there was no need
18:35for another director.
18:37Sivaji Ganesan was the one
18:39who conducted my parents' marriage.
18:41Many people said that
18:43Sivaji Ganesan didn't make films.
18:45He was very arrogant.
18:47It was in the papers
18:49that the film was directed
18:51by his father.
18:53That's not true.
18:55In 1969,
18:57my parents' marriage
18:59was conducted by
19:01Kamalamma and Sivaji Ganesan
19:03Sivaji Ganesan came
19:05and conducted the marriage.
19:07They had lunch
19:09and left for Madurai
19:11by evening flight.
19:13They had to return
19:15from Madurai.
19:17Sivaji Ganesan was
19:19very fond of his father.
19:21There are many reasons for that.
19:23When he worked with Sridhar sir,
19:25he traveled with Sivaji Ganesan
19:27in many films.
19:29That's why he was fond of him.
19:31Sivaji Ganesan was fond
19:33of his father's acting.
19:35He was fond of him
19:37till the end.
19:39People said that
19:41Sivaji Ganesan was arrogant.
19:43There's no reason for that.
19:45Sivaji Ganesan didn't want
19:47to make films.
19:49He had a policy.
19:51He didn't want to step out
19:53of that policy.
19:55Sivaji Ganesan didn't want
19:57to do that.
19:59His friend CV Rajendran
20:01asked him to do it.
20:05Thank you very much
20:07for sharing your experience.
20:09We wish you more films.
20:11Thank you.