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00:00And now it's time to talk about the finalists of the Copa America.
00:03Because we mentioned it after what happened in 2001 against Mexico.
00:08Colombia became champion.
00:11Now they are looking for their second crown in this contest.
00:13But they face neither more nor less than the queen of America and the queen of the world, the albiceleste.
00:18Duel of the Tenths, Lionel Messi against James Rodriguez.
00:22Who will be more decisive in his selection in this final?
00:26Well, the truth is that the problem is that one has to be decisive.
00:29If they want to win, the other doesn't matter.
00:31If Messi is not decisive, Argentina could win.
00:34If James is not decisive, it is impossible for Colombia to win.
00:37So now, I would stay with James, simply because of the level he has had in the tournament.
00:43Those six assists are pretty good.
00:46I was a little worried that he would lose against Uruguay so early.
00:4862 minutes, barely, is what he leaves us.
00:51And I don't think that luxury can be given.
00:53In the final, four MVPs, really James has been very good.
00:56But it has to be the best James Rodriguez,
00:59maybe giving one of the best games of his entire career,
01:02if Colombia wants to win the Copa América.
01:04So far, he has been the best player in the Copa América.
01:06I'm going to tell you one thing.
01:07The way Argentina is playing right now,
01:10I think that football,
01:11it's such a negative football that we saw against Canada,
01:13the Depaul is completely irresistible, unbeatable, and a thousand other things.
01:18I think that with how well Colombia is playing,
01:21they are going to need a genius from their captain.
01:24They are going to need a genius from their leader
01:25that will take us to do a little more.
01:27I agree with Andrés on one thing.
01:30Colombia's game is through James.
01:32Without James, there is no Colombia.
01:33Yes, that's true.
01:34And Argentina will have a good opportunity without Messi.
01:37I just think that seeing the Colombia that I saw today,
01:41it has to be a little more Argentinean.
01:44What Colombia did you see, Rodrigo?
01:46We saw a Colombia that was under pressure,
01:48under kicks, under blows,
01:51that had to defend with cover and sword,
01:53with his legs up.
01:54Exactly, it was a very compact Colombia.
01:56They were hitting him, kicking him,
01:58shouting at him,
01:59pushing him with such a negative Uruguayan football.
02:02That's how Argentina is going to play.
02:03Not necessarily.
02:05Argentina is not necessarily going to do the same.
02:06They are going to be physical.
02:07But it does seem that Colombia is going to be taken out of the game very easily.
02:10That's exactly what they are going to want to do.
02:12I think that Muñoz's game is going to be an important down,
02:13and be careful because Muñoz was so exposed.
02:17We've been saying all the time,
02:18Muñoz is ready to make a big jump.
02:19Anyone who has seen this is going to say,
02:20hey, what is he going to do to me in an important Champions League game?
02:22He lacked a lot of emotional intelligence.
02:24In a local ClĂĄsico.
02:26He fell into a very basic provocation.
02:28A very basic provocation,
02:29and he accused a pinch,
02:31he even showed it to the Mexican player.
02:34You're going to give him a kick, brother,
02:35what are we playing?
02:36Yes, and there is also one thing that is a little more dangerous than the other.
02:38Rodrigo, but this is also a psychological game,
02:40and you are facing the best in the world.
02:43Yes, but we also have to point out,
02:44for example, the psychological goalkeeper,
02:45you have to point out the Mugrero who did it there.
02:47You have the best team that is starting to be in transition.
02:51Because if I stay in Argentina,
02:52it starts to be in transition.
02:54I'm not saying they're not going to recover the level they had.
02:56If they're playing a little bit,
02:58I feel it,
02:59more disunited than what it was in the Champions League.
03:01No, I don't see that, Rodrigo.
03:02I see this Argentina
03:04resembling what we have always criticized about France.
03:07A team that is less and less eager to see,
03:10less attractive,
03:11but always getting results.
03:12I see a very careful Argentina,
03:14even going out.
03:16Sometimes they leave three defenses and put a lot of contention.
03:18They don't play pretty anymore.
03:19It doesn't matter anymore.
03:20They're going to win.
03:21The more they get used to winning,
03:23and especially with Messi's transition,
03:25I think it's okay.
03:26How much can this positive streak
03:30that the Colombians have
03:32of an undefeated streak of 27 commitments,
03:36that's extraordinary.
03:37I'm going to tell you what...
03:38Something that Argentina did at the time,
03:40and something that Brazil did at the time,
03:42in the last World Cup qualifiers.
03:43Look, my baseball coaches used to tell me a lot, Jackie.
03:45When you're very exhausted,
03:47do you know what's closest to you in your streak?
03:48The slump.
03:49The end of the streak.
03:50Of course.
03:50Because the more games you can lose without losing,
03:52do you know what's closest to you in which you're going to lose?
03:55That's statistically correct,
03:56but also psychologically it can be a problem.
03:59Of course.
04:00In the final?
04:01I think that can happen.
04:02It's just that, let's see,
04:03many times they say...
04:03It's probably the hardest game of the streak, right?
04:05They say that when the end of the Argentine streak is given,
04:07which is when they lose in the World Cup with Saudi Arabia,
04:10it's a...
04:11First, it wakes you up, like,
04:12that's it,
04:13we're not going to win the World Cup walking,
04:15but second, that's it,
04:15I'm not playing for a streak anymore,
04:16I'm playing game by game to win.
04:18I do think that Colombia has to forget about that situation,
04:21because you could also not lose the streak and lose the title, right?
04:23If you draw, if you lose in penalties,
04:25you don't lose the streak.
04:26So I do think that Colombia should forget about that
04:28and go and try to win Argentina,
04:30which involves a lot of ghosts for Colombian football,
04:32it's hard for them to win Argentina,
04:34and I do think that this time,
04:35well, they don't start as favorites.
04:37Let's see if that plays in their favor as well.
04:39And moments of honor for both of them, right?
04:40Do you want to win that second title in a third final in Colombia?
04:43Now, yes, playing well,
04:44a Copa América in form,
04:45with great teams,
04:46and Argentina wants to say goodbye to Mexico in a Copa América.
04:48Watch out, there's a lot of criticism that Colombia has received
04:51for how they won,
04:52in what conditions the Copa América of 2001 was played,
04:55and how good,
04:56maybe they didn't have to face the best rivals.
04:58This time, Colombia has the chance to vindicate itself,
05:01historically,
05:02and let's see if it finally happens.
05:03I've seen a lot of criticism that if Argentina already won El Camino,
05:06which I don't agree with,
05:07that if Argentina plays badly,
05:09well, oh well,
05:10they're still going to be favorites.