Reserved Seats say Mutaliq Decision Par Implement Hoga? Faisal Vawda Bold Statement
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Reserved Seats say Mutaliq Decision Par Implement Hoga? Faisal Vawda Bold Statement
Reserved Seats say Mutaliq Decision Par Implement Hoga? Faisal Vawda Bold Statement
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00:00There is one issue in Pakistan that is being discussed the most.
00:04You can see all the programs on television, you can read the daily columns,
00:08you can read the comments and comments published in the newspapers.
00:12The issue is whether the Supreme Court's full court bench has given the decision on the specific sessions.
00:19Will there be any effect on that or not?
00:22In this regard, the law is very clear, the judgment of the Supreme Court is very clear.
00:29There is no doubt that this is a 4-5 judgment or a 3-10 judgment.
00:35You know that there was a similar decision in the past and there was a lot of controversy over it.
00:41It is a 8-5 judgment and the experts say that it is a 11-2 judgment.
00:49Because 11 judges were present before the elections on 8 February 2024,
01:02which was not accepted by the Election Commission.
01:06It was misinterpreted according to the decision of the Supreme Court on 13 January.
01:10Now the question arises that if this decision was not implemented,
01:16then what kind of changes can be seen in the political landscape of Pakistan?
01:23This is a very big question.
01:26And in this regard, the most informed analysis that we are getting to hear and see is that of Senator Faisal Wada.
01:36Thank you very much, sir, for coming to us.
01:39We are listening to you and seeing you.
01:42And of course, you have a lot of access to information these days.
01:46So people tend to buy that.
01:49Now the question here, we would like to take you a little bit in the past.
01:54He was sitting on the bench in full court.
01:57You may remember that the 18th amendment was implemented in 2010.
02:00In the 18th amendment, the Parliament at that time made an amendment to the issue of judges' determination.
02:11Article 175.
02:13It was that the four members of the Parliamentary Committee got the power of veto.
02:20That the Judicial Commission will nominate judges in the Supreme Court.
02:28The power of change in it will be with the Parliamentary Committee.
02:33And if the four-member committee says that we do not agree with the name of the judge,
02:40therefore, it will be considered final.
02:43A petition was filed under Article 184.3.
02:47This matter came to the Supreme Court and the Supreme Court then heard it.
02:54Let me show you this.
02:56He was sitting on the bench in full court.
02:59All 17 judges, including Chief Justice Naseer Mulk, he was the head of this bench.
03:07And it is very clearly written in it.
03:11You can see it.
03:13The manner of selecting and appointing judges, Article 175A.
03:18All this has been explained.
03:20It is said in it that this amendment made to Article 175A by the 19th amendment
03:26appears to have addressed the apprehensions that were earlier expressed.
03:30It happened that when the 18th amendment was amended,
03:34then the Supreme Court gave the direction that you cannot do this.
03:39He was told that you do this.
03:41You have given this veto power to the Parliamentary Committee.
03:45End it.
03:46The appointment of the final authority judges will remain with the Supreme Court.
03:53So, Mr. Faisal Ghoda, the first question.
03:56The Supreme Court of Pakistan is an example.
04:00The amendment was made in the amendment.
04:04There is a petition on it under Article 184.3.
04:08And the bench sits in full court.
04:10And an opinion is established on it.
04:13And then he took his opinion from the authority of the Parliament.
04:18He said, return it. You cannot keep it.
04:20He returned it.
04:21After that, let's go slowly.
04:24So, how is it possible that your opinion, your analysis is informed
04:30that this decision will not be implemented.
04:33Why?
04:34Thank you very much, Mr. Ghumat.
04:35No, Mr. Ghumat, if we start from the past,
04:37then Rekha's decision was a judicial decision.
04:40It was a wrong decision.
04:41It was a wrong decision.
04:42It was a loss of billions of dollars in Pakistan.
04:44The decision of the Nusrat Tower was a wrong decision.
04:47It was a loss in Pakistan.
04:48Both were compensated.
04:50Mr. Bhutto was hanged.
04:52Both were compensated.
04:53Let me clarify that.
04:56Mr. Zardari was kept in jail for 14 years without bail.
04:5914 years is a long time.
05:00One year is compensated every day.
05:02You can make it 10 years.
05:03You can make it 8 years.
05:04No, I mean 11.
05:05I think it was 11.
05:06After that, you stopped Mr. Nawaz Sharif from taking money over-the-counter
05:11and banned the running government of Mr. Ibrahim Khan
05:14so that he could go to jail at night.
05:18Now, this was also a decision of the people.
05:20It was a wrong decision.
05:22We redressed it after 45 years.
05:25No one was punished who did all this.
05:27Now, you come to the law and the constitution.
05:30So, it is very categorically written in the constitution.
05:32Three days, no floor lawsuit.
05:35And the party head will decide over the tickets after the election.
05:38Three things are not written in the constitution.
05:40That is, Mr. Guman is the anchor of the ARY.
05:43If I go ahead, no.
05:45I am the anchor.
05:46I am Mr. Guman.
05:47So, where there will be confusion,
05:49where there will be contradiction,
05:50Parliament will have the mandate to rewrite the constitution
05:53or amend it or write it.
05:57The Supreme Court will have it.
05:58Okay?
05:59After that, the Supreme Court can explain.
06:01It is not written anywhere in the constitution that only the Supreme Court can explain.
06:04But the precedent is that the Supreme Court can explain.
06:07So, when there will be confusion,
06:09the ARY will play everything.
06:11Number one.
06:12Number two is,
06:13when there was no election under the constitution in Punjab and KPK,
06:17when you came out yourself,
06:18what happened to that?
06:19Now, this is a recent example.
06:20You have given a very recent example.
06:22Now, you come to Mr. Guman.
06:24First, there is the election commission.
06:25Then, there is the speaker.
06:26Then, there is the parliament.
06:27And then, there is the President of Pakistan.
06:29All this is related to the constitution.
06:31And there is immunity on all constitutional positions.
06:33And the parliament has the biggest mandate to write, define and amend the constitution.
06:39It clearly writes the constitution.
06:41You tell me that your time for the show is 7 o'clock.
06:44The constitution says that the show will be at 10 o'clock.
06:47Okay?
06:48You will be called Faisal Wawda.
06:50And you, Mr. Chaudhary,
06:54will be written as Urgaram instead of ARY.
06:57This is not possible.
06:58Okay, you have highlighted two issues.
07:00One is that of three days.
07:02This is the judgment of the Supreme Court.
07:05We will show you on this.
07:06We are showing you the note of Justice Qazi Faiz Issa and Justice Mando Khel.
07:12They are saying that the decision of 13th January
07:15regarding the non-holding inter-party elections in PTI
07:19where wrongly mentioned that the said candidates of PTI as independents in the form 33 of the election rules.
07:25The ECP had no authority to declare validly nominated candidates of PTI.
07:33What we are talking about the three days,
07:36I have taken out the election schedule.
07:39The election schedule which was decided by the Supreme Court
07:42started from 18th December.
07:45If you show it to the police, it went till 8th.
07:48Let me show you this.
07:50This whole matter started on 19th December.
07:54After that, the election was held on 8th February.
07:59The question here is that
08:02what was the original sin given by the time?
08:05According to Chief Justice Qazi Faiz Issa,
08:08two judges, Justice Mando Khel and eight judges,
08:11they said that the election commission made a fundamental mistake
08:15that the candidates of PTI were declared independents.
08:22For the correction of the original sin,
08:25the time limit, the nomination papers,
08:28will have to be rewritten.
08:30The constitution will not be rewritten.
08:33The second question is that who will issue the tickets?
08:39There is no issue of issuing tickets here.
08:42Supreme Court of Pakistan says that
08:45Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf is a registered political party.
08:4813 judges say that this party exists.
08:53Qazi Faiz Issa, led by the full bench, is saying this.
08:57If someone has to give an affidavit
09:02that I have a relationship with this party,
09:06I will start my affiliation with this party.
09:09Therefore, he does not need anyone's ticket.
09:12I have given an affidavit today.
09:16My time bar is three days.
09:18If I change the affidavit after five months of the election,
09:22then the principle of Sadr-e-Ameen applies to the affidavit.
09:25Then that principle is wrong.
09:27If you say that it is a registered party,
09:29then the sign of the baton was a wrong decision.
09:32Then if you go back, which decision will you say is right?
09:35Will you say the decision on Monday, Tuesday,
09:37Wednesday, Thursday is right?
09:396, 9, 6, 9, 6, 9, 6, 9.
09:42Then it can be 9 or 11.
09:44I had a lot of clarity in it.
09:46Tassad is an affidavit.
09:48So if I have given an affidavit that I am a citizen of Pakistan
09:52and the next day I give an affidavit that I was a citizen of America
09:56and you have become a Pakistani,
09:58then you will violate the first affidavit.
10:00It is a matter of technical definition,
10:03which you are reading 6.
10:05The parliament is reading 6 and the Supreme Court is reading 9.
10:08So we are not going to collide.
10:10This is not going to be a conflict.
10:12We will go back to them.
10:14We will tell them that this is not how it is.
10:16This is not how it is.
10:18So what I am saying is that the ping pong ball has started.
10:20You directly give the seat to the Supreme Court.
10:23When it was not there.
10:24You had gone with a request.
10:26The decision has come for me.
10:28The most important thing is that the PTI has not objected to this.
10:31It is during the course.
10:32Sir, listen to me.
10:34What all the judges said,
10:36I will include the other panelists as well.
10:38All the 11 judges have written their statements.
10:4113 judges have also published their headlines in the newspapers.
10:44They are saying that the Election Commission
10:47has explained the PTI's registered entity
10:50under the decision of the Supreme Court
10:53that it does not exist.
10:55The people who have given the affidavits are also free.
11:00So the Supreme Court has corrected the original sin.
11:05That is the major mistake that the Election Commission has made.
11:08This is the order of the Supreme Court
11:10to the Election Commission of Pakistan
11:12that you have to do this in 15 days
11:14and you have to finalize everything in 7 days.
11:16We are trying to find out
11:19if there is any reason
11:21that there is no constitutional crisis in it.
11:25There is no rewriting.
11:28Yes, the decision of the 13 judges,
11:30they can take it back themselves
11:31that we made a wrong decision.
11:32That is the only way forward.
11:35I am reading your tickets right now
11:37that in America,
11:39Mr. Athar Mulla said that
11:41I saw a channel and I opened the courts under it.
11:44It is still going on.
11:45No, no, no, he didn't say that.
11:47He said that I felt from this channel that...
11:49At least listen to what he has to say.
11:51So he saw that and opened the courts.
11:54Earlier it was coming that the courts did not open.
11:56Earlier it was always like this
11:58that the courts did not open.
12:00Now the courts have opened.
12:02I said this on the floor itself.
12:04I said that was it a dream
12:06or was it an intervention or a warning?
12:08I asked this question.
12:10Now you have said till today
12:12that the courts did not open.
12:14Today you are saying that the courts did open.
12:16So what should I accept as right?
12:17Should I accept tomorrow as right?
12:18Should I accept today as right?
12:19Should I accept the day after tomorrow as right?
12:20When in your own things,
12:22there will be confusion and contradiction,
12:24then the advantage and disadvantage of confusion
12:26and the game,
12:27then everyone will play,
12:28everyone will play chess.