How Not to be RUDE!

  • 3 months ago
bit of a short answer on the last one that didn't quite seem to answer the question fully, but my answer would be something like this: if UPB is true, it doesn't NEED more than one proof to establish that fact, it just needs one correct proof. Similarly, Jesus doesn't NEED four gospels, one is enough. The reason there are four of them is because they were written with different audiences in mind (Matthew for the Jews, Mark for the gentiles, John for the Greeks, and Luke for those wanting a longer version). Similarly, I suppose there COULD be different versions of UPB for people who find the existing proof to be somewhat inaccessible or difficult to comprehend — but I suppose those people could also try listening to some of the debates you had about it, perhaps they will find those more convincing.

While it's certainly not necessary to have more than one proof for UPB to establish its truth value, I suppose it could in fact help convince some people who are still stuck so deeply in unreality that they find the existing proof difficult to process. Some mathematical theorems also have several different proofs for them, even though one would completely suffice. I don't think it's impossible that someone might find a different proof for UPB that's more convincing or accessible to people who are having trouble wrapping their minds around the original one, but that person would likely not be Stefan. And of course, finding such a proof wouldn't make UPB MORE true, but it might help convince more people.


So I wonder if Depression is a kind of moral exhaustion , soul fatigue .


Hi Stef, can you share some insights about the subject of judgment. For example in doing deep shadow work, we are told to take a clear look at our judgments and identify them and their roots causes so we can confront repressed fears, emotions and desires and eventually integrate and accept these aspects of ourselves... I had a thought that judgment evolved to help us protect ourselves and our loved ones, so the question is, how to discern between it serving us or being a destructive force or limitation in our lives?

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00:00Good morning everybody, Stephen Molyneux from Freedomain, hope you're doing well, great
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00:47Bit of a short answer on the last one that didn't quite seem to answer the question fully,
00:51this is regarding UPP. My answer would be something like this, if UPP is true, it doesn't
00:56need more than one proof to establish that fact, it just needs one correct proof. Similarly,
01:04Jesus doesn't need four Gospels, one is enough. The reason why there are four of them is because
01:08they were written with different audiences in mind, Matthew for the Jews, Mark for the
01:12Gentiles, John for the Greeks, Luke for those wanting a longer version. Similarly, I suppose
01:17there could be different versions of UPP for people who find the existing proof to
01:22be somewhat inaccessible or difficult to comprehend, but I suppose those people could also try
01:26listening to some of the debates you've had about it, perhaps they will find those more
01:29convincing. While it's certainly not necessary to have more than one proof for UPP to establish
01:37its truth value, I suppose it could, in fact, help convince some people who are still stuck
01:41so deeply in unreality that they find the existing proof difficult to process. Some
01:46mathematical theorems also have several different proofs for them, even though one would completely
01:50suffice. I don't think it's impossible that someone might find a different proof for UPP
01:55that's more convincing or accessible to people who are having trouble wrapping their minds
01:58around the original one, but that person would likely not be stiff. Of course, finding such
02:02a proof wouldn't make UPP more true, but it might help convince more people. Yes, that's
02:07true. So how do you prevent an idea from spreading? You demonize, well, first of all,
02:15you ignore the person, right? You ignore the person and hope that they go away. If the
02:20person doesn't go away and is consistent and persistent and starts to gain some traction,
02:25you demonize the person so that nobody wants to defend that person, therefore those ideas
02:31cannot spread. You make it socially unacceptable to defend that person. The spread of the theory
02:41of evolution is interesting. Darwin himself was not out there thundering from the pulpit
02:45about his theory of evolution by natural selection. There was a guy, I can't remember his name,
02:51he was basically referred to as Darwin's bulldog, and he was the guy who went out and argued
02:56and debated and was ferocious and was very pugnacious and did great stuff to help spread
03:03that theory. So for me, what's happened is nobody with any prominence and nobody with
03:17any respectability and nobody with any gravitas, so to speak, or credentials or who does shows
03:26with their shirts on, could be any number of things, but nobody who's that refined and
03:32has the right letters after their name is allowed to talk about me in anything other
03:40than the most negative and contemptuous terms. That's the deal, right? They give you all
03:43these goodies, and then there's a price, and the internet has allowed you to have prominence
03:50without being bought, owned, and paid for with goodies, right? So if you were in academia,
03:57and I was without a doubt the most popular philosopher for a large number of years across
04:03the world, you know, a billion views and downloads is nothing to sneeze at. I've been trained
04:08academically in philosophy. I have a graduate degree. My thesis was on the history of philosophy
04:14with Kant, Hegel, Locke, and all of these great people that I analyzed, and I got an
04:22A, and so, yeah, I mean, I have the credentials and so on. But people, and I propose a sort
04:32of very radical and valid moral theory, right? So that would be something that people would
04:40want to talk about, but they couldn't talk about it, right? It's not an accident, right?
04:46The things that just don't happen that way, that the most popular philosopher in the world
04:51who has a radical new theory proving secular ethics, that's something that philosophers
04:59would get involved in and talk about, right? And it's funny because some of the professional
05:07academic philosophers, they say, well, but he does not have a PhD from Harvard. It's
05:16very funny to me. Oh, these vague parasites, right? And the reason why that's funny for
05:22me is that, did Socrates have a PhD from Harvard? At least 90% of the people who were
05:35taught in an introductory to the history of philosophy series did not have what we would
05:40call modern academic credentials. So it's funny that they base all of the history of
05:45philosophy on people who don't have academic credentials in philosophy. I mean, Nietzsche
05:52was philology and all of that. I mean, there are some who do, Bertrand Russell was well
05:56educated and all of that, but to me, it's just kind of funny that the people who teach
06:04philosophy teach about philosophers who did not have the formal accreditation they demand
06:10of anyone they would talk about in the present. But anyway, so the people can't be out there
06:20defending my thesis about UPB, right? They can't do that because they'll lose all of
06:27the social goodies and little petty rewards and so on. If UPB is correct, it's the biggest
06:36advance in philosophy in the history of philosophy, right? I mean, no question, right? Because
06:40it is a rational proof of secular ethics, no gods, no governments and so on. It is the
06:45final proof. It is the proof of virtue, the proof, and that's never existed before in
06:51philosophy in a way that you can't just discount in one way or another. So it solves the problem
06:57which we're kind of facing in the modern world, which is if morals come from God, you can
07:06sidestep, right? You can sidestep morality by not believing in God. UPB takes that away.
07:13It says that the only way you can disbelieve in UPB is to abandon logic, reason, reality,
07:18and debating in any way, shape, or form. Arguments, debates in any way, shape, or form. So to isolate
07:26and demonize me is the way to make sure that my theory doesn't spread. There's no particular way
07:32around that. I mean, there aren't going to be academics who are going to say, gee, this
07:38incredible philosopher, in terms of like incredibly popular, not incredible, but this
07:43guy is having a lot of influence. We need to deal with his theories because he's getting
07:51philosophy out to the masses, bypassing academia, bypassing the media, speaking directly to people.
07:56So we need to deal with him. If I'm egregiously wrong, then you need to put me in my place,
08:01right? That would make sense, right? And so the fact that academic philosophers aren't saying,
08:07well, we need to debate you because you're just amateur and completely wrong and so on.
08:14They don't care about the morals of society. So let's say that I was some terrible guy who was
08:19teaching evil to people. Then philosophers in the academic sense, who obviously claim to care about
08:28truth and virtue in society, would have to step in to debate me so that I could stop spreading
08:34this, quote, malign influence and so on. But they just ignore it. That's the price. You can't
08:39engage, which means they don't particularly care about morals and virtue. If I'm right, then they
08:44need to get behind me. If I'm wrong, then they need to discredit me through debate. But that's
08:52not happening. So they don't particularly care. Somebody says, so I wonder if depression is a
08:57kind of moral exhaustion, soul fatigue. That's a very interesting thought. I'm obviously no
09:03clinician, don't know smack about diagnosing anyone about anything, but my amateur views on
09:10depression. Depression happens most commonly from what I've seen when people are surrounded
09:21by those they cannot connect with. They've tried every strategy to try and connect with,
09:27to gain empathy, to give empathy, to have a connection, to have a relationship. They've
09:32tried everything they can. They get blocked at every route. And it's the exhaustion that sets in
09:38when you can't connect with people, neither can you get away from them. You can't connect with
09:42them, neither can you get away with them. So you're stuck in this limbo, this dead zone, this
09:47null zone of no connection and no escape. And there is an isolation that is built around you
09:56by defensive people, right? And we'll get to that with a couple of these questions.
10:00So defensive people are just about managing their emotions by manipulating you. And so you
10:06can't connect with them because all they're doing is trying to figure out how to manage
10:08their own emotions. And so when you try to connect with people, they keep dodging you,
10:16evading you, gaslighting you, manipulating you, minimizing you, lying to you, and so on.
10:21Then it gets really frustrating. You want to connect, but it's just always a maze with no
10:25exit, right? You go in trying to get to the person. You just hear laughter around the corner.
10:29There's a bit of moldy cheese, couple of dead rats, and then you're trapped again. And then
10:33can you find your way back out of the maze? Like when you engage with defensive people,
10:36you are entering a maze of manipulation. And by defensive people, what I'm referring to
10:42is people who are managing their own self contempt by manipulating you. They're trying
10:48to avoid themselves by avoiding any sort of direct questions or connection with you.
10:53So when you get lost in that maze, you can't find the person. You can't find your way back out.
11:00What do you do? I mean, you just sit. You just sit and stare. There's no point going on. You
11:06can never catch the person and you can't go back. Defenses lead you into this maze and say,
11:12oh, I'm just around the corner. Oh, just down here. Here's a bit of laughter. Oh, we're having
11:15a great cookout down here. Here's some food here. Some water here. You can go to the washroom here.
11:19Here's some rest. And just lead you deeper and deeper into the maze. And the further you go in
11:24hot pursuit of defensive people, people who avoid themselves by manipulating you, the further you go
11:29into that maze, the less chance you have of getting out. So it's very dangerous, very dangerous
11:38to interact with manipulative people. They will pull you out of yourself and leave you rotting
11:43in the corner of an endless maze. No good. No good. I mean, there are ways out, but there's a
11:50feeling that there isn't. All right. Hey, Steph, can you share some insights about the subject of
11:56judgment? For example, in doing deep shadow work, we are told to take a clear look at our judgments
12:01and identify them and their root causes so we can confront repressed fears, emotions, and desires,
12:06and eventually integrate and accept those aspects of ourselves. I had a thought that judgment
12:10evolved to help us protect ourselves and our loved ones. So the question is how to discern
12:16between it serving us or being a destructive force or limitation in our lives.
12:19It's a great question. It's a great question. Deep shadow work is a sort of Jungian term that you have to
12:27accept your own capacity for evil and manipulation and corruption and all of that in order to be
12:34virtuous. And I mean, I think there's no truth in that. We're all human. The last thing we want to
12:44do is portray ourselves as angels and thus cast thunderbolts down on devils. And you've heard me a
12:50million times in call-in shows saying I'm certainly not above this. I do this myself. I'm right there
12:54in the trenches with you. I'm not casting this judgment from any high place. We are all engaged
12:59in this battle of virtue against what seems like an inexhaustible tsunami of series of tsunamis of
13:05corruption. So I think that's important to accept your own capacity for immorality. If you think
13:12you're an angel, you're not actually that good because you've got nothing to fight against, right?
13:17You've got nothing to fight against. And also if you think you're an angel,
13:24then you can't be dangerous, right? We do have to have a capacity for destructive strength,
13:31right? And I don't mean that in terms of any physical violence or anything like that,
13:34but in terms of like standing your ground and pushing back against corrupt people,
13:38it takes some guts, it takes some strength, it takes some anger, it takes some hostility,
13:43it takes some aggression. Again, I'm talking all verbal and the thrust and parry of debates,
13:48nothing physical or violent, but it does take a certain amount of bloody-mindedness to stand
13:54your ground in a corrupt world. So yes, you need to be in touch with that side of yourself.
14:00Is it serving us or being a destructive force or limitation in our lives? So
14:03you manipulate others when you reframe their intentions to your own convenience.
14:14And I'll get to that. There's an example of this coming up, so we'll get to that.
14:20So the best way you know if your judgments are valid is are they universal, are they rational,
14:25are they empirical, right? So when you judge people, are you judging their actions, not their
14:29intentions, because intentions are just a form of mysticism. Intentions is mind reading, intentions
14:35is astrology, it is tarot card reading, it's reading tea leaves. Reading intentions is a form
14:43of mysticism because it's not empirical. You can just make up anything that you want and it leads
14:46you back into that maze, which is just horrible. So if you apply a judgment to someone, are you
14:53willing to subject yourself to that judgment? Are you willing to subject yourself to a judgment
14:59before you judge others, right? Because a judgment is there to say, this is bad, this is good, this
15:05is evil, this is moral, this is dysfunctional, this is functional. So if you have a judgment,
15:10are you willing to subject yourself to that judgment first and foremost? And are you willing
15:16sometimes to work for months or years to improve yourself relative to your judgments before you
15:21start inflicting them on others? If your first impulse is to inflict judgments on others rather
15:26than apply them rationally to yourself, you're in a bad place, that's a hypocritical place. So you
15:31apply judgment to yourself, I spent 20 years working on my rationality before I became any
15:36kind of public figure. So you apply that judgment to yourself, you apply that judgment to those
15:41around you and particularly those who have power over you, like your parents and so on. You apply
15:46that judgment to your family, you apply that judgment to your friends, you apply that judgment
15:49to your girlfriend or boyfriend or whoever, right? And once you've got your own particular corner of
15:54the world clear and subjected to that judgment, then you can start tentatively putting it out
16:00into the world with a due knowledge that it's difficult to do and it takes a long time.
16:05So physician heal thyself, right? If you've got a judgment that you think is a positive value to
16:09people, you have to first apply it relentlessly to yourself and everyone in your immediate life
16:14and then you can start to spread it outwards. If your first goal is to just judge others,
16:18you're avoiding yourself. All right. Hi, Steph. It occurs to me that until very recently, women
16:25were married early and then constantly pregnant, suffering or recovering from miscarriage or
16:28recovering from birth and breastfeeding. And as I've mentioned recently in shows, and then they
16:34graduate straight to taking care of grandchildren. So you got 20 year fertility window. So by the
16:41time your oldest kids are 20, they probably, evolutionarily speaking, they would have had
16:46children of your own. So your whole, your whole business is dealing with babies and toddlers and
16:52pregnancy and so on. Right. So it says, I wonder if this is why previously women were considered
16:56very delicate, fainting at the drop of a hat and needing to be looked after. Um, I don't have that
17:02experience. I know that there's this sort of Freudian thing about these women with their
17:05fainting spells and the sort of cure nightly hysteria and so on. I'm just referring to a
17:11character in a movie, not the person herself, but, uh, no women, women were hysterical because
17:19they were raped as children. Right. I mean, that's the general, I did a whole speech in New York
17:22about this, uh, that Freud betrayed children by, uh, his adult, his adult patients who had all
17:29these symptoms of, of hysteria and neurasthenia and neurosis and so on. Uh, he found out almost
17:34universally in questioning them that they had been raped as children, usually by parents.
17:40And so what he did was he began to talk about this and then he was threatened, uh, all over the place
17:47because, you know, obvious reasons. And so what he did was he said, okay, well, uh, this guy,
17:55this woman says that her father raped her as a child. Um, if I talk about that, I've got a whole
18:02bunch of kids. I like dealing cocaine and I need an income. So, oh, I got it. Um, yeah, they just
18:13made it up. Yeah. It's, it's a fantasy, right? This is where you come up with the edible complex
18:16and the electric complex and so on. And so, yeah, I mean, people told Freud the truth and Freud then
18:23said, no, they're lying. It's a fantasy and, and wish fulfillment. And, and so the whole founding
18:28of this kind of stuff was based upon the corrupted betrayal of, uh, raped children. No, absolutely
18:34horrifying and appalling. So, uh, I mean, I've known some sort of delicate and hysterical
18:38women. Uh, my mother was, was quite hysterical, but I also suspect that she did not have a very
18:43good childhood that way, to put it mildly. So, um, but I also had my, my aunts, right? Uh, I was,
18:50uh, uh, very close to my aunts when I was a baby and toddler, certainly one of them.
18:54And, uh, they were very strong, healthy, practical, robust women and so on. Right. So anyway,
18:59uh, what does she say here? I wonder if this, uh, fainting at the drop of a hat,
19:03needing to be looked after. Is it possible there wasn't a giant conspiracy by men to keep women
19:08down, but that it was simply true. I've been pregnant or recovering nearly constantly for
19:12the last five years. It's very different to being on birth control. That's true.
19:15Birth control is a kind of mind control. I've really started appreciating things I never cared
19:20about before, such as having heavy things carried for me or being given a seat on public transport.
19:24So many of the women complaining about the patriarchy have never been pregnant and they
19:27wonder if they just don't realize how different it is and how we as a society have never experienced
19:32this before. Uh, well, of course we have, right? So when you tell women to go be independent and
19:38then you force employers to marry them and artificially prop up their wages and, and so on.
19:43And then, um, then yeah, they, they don't feel that they need men because men are forced to
19:49serve them, right? Like if, um, if a cruel man has slaves, he doesn't appreciate labor saving devices.
20:00So when men are forced to subsidize women, women don't, don't feel they need men. Sure. I,
20:07I understand that. Uh, so you tell women, go get educated. You don't need a man. You,
20:15you subsidize and give them all kinds of money and resources. And, um,
20:23they don't feel the need to have kids then. Right. And certainly for women, uh, and I understand this,
20:28uh, being, being flirted with and being taken out to dinner and flown here and there,
20:34and, uh, it's sexy and it's exciting and, and thrilling and, and all of that.
20:38It's a, it's a kind of dopamine drug. Now that dopamine drug is supposed to lead to
20:41pair bonding and children, but women just peel off at that last bit and stay with the flirting
20:47and the dating and the likes and the chatting until they just burn out completely and then
20:52lose the ability to pair bond and blame men. So, uh, but yes, if you don't have a birth rate,
20:57that's reasonable, then women can complain about men because the value of men is invisible to
21:03women. If women, if men are forced to subsidize women, and if women don't get pregnant,
21:08then the value of men, and you see this all over the place, what do we need men for? Nothing.
21:11Blah, blah, blah. While you walk on the roads and live in the houses and drive the cars and all
21:16designed and built largely by men. Uh, this other woman replied, good question. I have four children.
21:21So I've been pregnant, breastfeeding, recovering, and holding babies for almost 10 years now.
21:25I don't think children, I don't think childless women realize how debilitating it can be.
21:29I always appreciate when a man helps me with my stroller or carry something to my car.
21:33Yeah. I mean, absolutely. Always, always, always help a pregnant woman. If there's not another guy
21:37around. All right. Uh, let's see here. Let's do one more. I became interested in the topic
21:46of spanking children after listening to Steph for a while. So I decided to look around and find out
21:50what people think about it. In scouring forums and discussion boards, I was honestly taken aback by
21:55the sheer numbers of people that believe hitting their kids is normal and healthy when there's
21:59overwhelming evidence that says otherwise. I thought by now societies, especially in the
22:03West would have awakened to this. Even among those who don't spank, they still use their
22:08positions to threaten and withhold children's property as a form of punishment. I guess
22:11reasoning with their children is off the table. Yes. Uh, that is, uh, that is true. Uh, that is
22:17sad. That is tragic. It takes a while. It takes a while, but you know, honestly, the internet has
22:23really accelerated these things. So for instance, the voluntary family, when I first started the
22:29show, right, that you don't have to spend time with relentlessly toxic and abusive parents
22:33was so horrifying that it was, you know, I was called a cult leader for even suggesting this
22:39as a vague possibility. And, uh, it's, uh, it's become no contact of zone. It's become quite
22:45normalized, uh, in, in really only 18 years. Uh, that's remarkably fast for a social change of that
22:52kind. All right. Uh, somebody said, oh yeah. So I answered someone's question about talking
22:59politics with people. And he replied, it seems to me that you have basically just avoided answering
23:04the question by making reference to the larger political climate and the fact that the pervasive
23:08power of the state makes it very difficult for people to have any sort of rational discussion
23:11about politics. I recall that in the past you have advocated for simply not having any people
23:16in your life that supported the against me argument, i.e. people who are willing to involve
23:20government in order to settle any arguments or disputes. It seems to me that such people would
23:25be able to recognize the fact that government equal violence and that all politics is simply
23:29a struggle for power, i.e. gap, grabbing the gun in the room as you previously put it.
23:33And would consequently also be uninterested in discussing it. If you have such people in your
23:38life, why was that not the answer? So that's kind of bitchy, right? And that's, uh, that's kind of
23:44bitchy. I just sort of want to want to point it out. It's, it's a little unpleasant to be on the
23:49receiving end of something like that. So, uh, you know, I, I take time out of my day. I put effort
23:55into answering your questions. Uh, I don't charge anything and all of that. So a little thank you
24:00for taking the time to answer my question. Cause it's not just, you know, I got to read the question.
24:04I got to think about it. Sometimes I need to take notes. I got to record it. I got to process it. I
24:09got to upload it. I got to share it. Like it's a long, it's a large amount of effort to answer your
24:15questions. So a little appreciation, you know, kind of goes a long way. I'm not saying you've
24:22got to love the answer. I'm not saying you've got to agree with the answer. I could be totally wrong.
24:26But in general, uh, if people are putting a lot of effort for free on, uh, to you on,
24:30on your behalf and answering a question, uh, then it might be, it might be reasonable to say,
24:37Hey, thanks for the question. Here's what I felt was deficient or missing. If you could,
24:40you know, solve that, I'd appreciate it. I mean, it's just a, it's a nice way to interact with
24:44people just as a whole. So you might want to, you might want to look into that a little bit.
24:49Um, you've basically just avoided answering the question. So, um, avoidance is mind reading,
24:56right? So it's a bit of a sinister accusation, right? Uh, that I'm gaslighting, right? That I,
25:01I know the answer to the question I'm avoiding it because I'm a hypocrite, right? Because according
25:06to this guy, well, I mean, gee, why would you even have people in your life? Uh, blah, blah,
25:10blah, blah, blah, blah. It's like, but the question was about people in your life, right?
25:14I don't have people in my life who advocate the use of violence against me. Of course not.
25:18So, um, this is a bad faith response. Uh, just, just to be clear, right. It's a very bad faith
25:23response. So, uh, of course, I'm not going to answer something that I've said a million times
25:28before, because I assume this is what I assume. I assume that as a listener for a long time,
25:34and you're a donor and all of that, right. And, you know, I say this with affection,
25:37I want you to have a more positive experience interacting with the world rather than have
25:40these weird, sinister, bad faith accusations against people who've done something nice to
25:44you for free. So, um, I assume that you are somewhat familiar with my work. So you're
25:54asking a question that I haven't answered a million times before. So this is why I try to
25:58come up with new answers to existing questions. Otherwise I would just refer you to one of my
26:04existing shows. Right. So as it turns out, you, um, you already have my answer for discussing
26:11politics with people. You already have my answer, the against me answer. So then why would you ask
26:16me the question? Why would you ask me the question if you already know my answer? Right. And so I'm
26:22going to, I assume that, you know, in general, my framework for discussing these things I've
26:25talked about it about a zillion times over the years. So, um, why, why would you ask me the
26:33question if you already know my answer? Right. And then accuse me of being a bad faith answer.
26:39Right. So you've done this mind reading thing where you're basically like, uh, if you have
26:45such people in your life, why was that not the answer? Right. So this is just, it's, it's nasty,
26:49right? Like what you're doing is, is kind of nasty. Right. Which is not to say it's totally a valid
26:53question. You can totally say to me, Steph, I'm curious, do you have people in your life
26:57who, um, uh, who advocate for the use of violence against you directly? Right. That's a perfectly
27:02fine question, right? There's no problem answering that, but this kind of trap, you ask a question,
27:07you already know the answer to you. Then accuse me of avoiding answering the question.
27:11And then you imply that, uh, I'm being a hypocrite because I must have people in my life
27:16who do this. Um, and logically it doesn't follow. Right.
27:22So willing to involve the government in order to settle any arguments or disputes,
27:27uh, no, well settled maybe. Right. So, um, if people advocate for the use of violence against
27:33you, then you can't debate with them, but that doesn't mean that everyone who's pro statist
27:38never debates with anyone, right. They pretend to debate. You just have to identify the gun in
27:42the room. So, um, such people would be able to recognize the fact that the government equals
27:49violence. Uh, no, no, the people do not believe that the government equals violence, or if they
27:54finally do admit it, they say it's the least violence possible, right? This is the, um,
27:59Hobbesian state of nature argument, or, um, Churchill talking, uh, democracy is the worst
28:04system of government that has tried except for all the others. Right. So people will not admit
28:08that the government is, is coercive. And then when you prove that to them, they'll say, okay,
28:13it is, but the alternative is much more coercive. Right. So, um, I, I, maybe you've never debated
28:19this stuff with anyone in which case, I don't know why you're asking the question, but this
28:21is a very, very sort of common thing. Right. So, yeah, I, um, I, I would, I would recommend
28:30not mind reading. I would recommend a little bit of an attitude of gratitude that if someone
28:35takes, um, an hour or two to answer your question, that you show some appreciation for that
28:41just for the time doesn't mean you have to agree. Uh, and, uh, don't be kind of a sinister, uh,
28:47in impugning bad motives when you're the one with bad motives, right? Because you're,
28:52you're asking a question you already know the answer to. And then when my answer is not the
28:58same, it's the same general framework, but it's not the exact same answer as I made previously.
29:02You're accusing me of dodging the question of being hypocritical and all of that. And that's,
29:08you know, that's just unpleasant people, people of quality, people of decent self-esteem.
29:14Uh, they just won't want to deal with you. Like it's a funny thing in life. Like you really got
29:18to understand this. When you become an adult, nobody has to deal with you. Nobody has to deal
29:25with you. Nobody has to interact with you. So how is it that you are going to live a life where
29:31people want to interact with you? Right. It's really, really, really important. Why would
29:38somebody want to engage with you when you're like this, right? Why? I mean, I have a great life. I
29:44have a wonderful family. I have great friends. Uh, I have a deeper, meaningful work and so on.
29:49Right. So why would I want to interact with somebody who accuses me of these negative things,
29:55who asks me a question he already knows the answer to, and then tries to trap me in some
30:00kind of hypocrisy? Like, why, why would, why would I want to interact with someone like that?
30:06That's just a really important question. In life, in life, my friends, you must be a net positive
30:13for quality people to want to interact with you. You must be a net positive. You must be a net
30:18positive. Their lives must be better because you're interacting with them. Now, this doesn't
30:24mean that you can't sell some blunt truths that might be upsetting from time to time, but overall,
30:28in general, as a whole, would you pay $200 a month to a personal trainer when you would,
30:36when you follow his advice to the letter and you get fatter and slower and more tired and more
30:41lethargic? Would you voluntarily go to a restaurant where you hate the food? Would you go to see a
30:50singer whose voice you and music you despise? Like, you just look in your life.
30:58Everything that you interact with, I guess he's trying to have some positive interaction for him,
31:02but at my expense, right? So this must be some, I've got it, man. There's this kind of weird,
31:06petty, silly, gotcha stuff, right? And, you know, maybe you can get me, right? Maybe I've
31:10made a contradiction. It's all perfectly possible and all of that. But this like vaguely sinister,
31:15oh yeah, well, why didn't you do this if that's the case? And I asked this question and you
31:21actually have a totally different answer last time. It's like, okay, well, if I had a different
31:24answer last time, which I didn't, then you can just point that out, right? No need for all the
31:30sinister impunity of motives and so on. So why would, you got to ask yourself this question.
31:37I'm not kidding. Every single day, you must ask yourself this question. How do people in my life
31:42benefit from me interacting with them? How do people that I want to interact with benefit from
31:49me interacting with them? So with me, you asked me a question. I gave an answer. You're not
31:54disagreeing with any of the answer. You're just saying you're making a bunch of assumptions,
31:58which are actually false. And you're impugning my motives and vaguely calling me hypocritical and
32:03eh, right? So it's like, well, why would I want to interact with you again? Why? I don't have to.
32:09It's not pleasant for me. And so this is just a repetition of pushing people away, right? I don't
32:15want you to live in a life with quality people, uh, stepping aside and out of the way from you.
32:19Right? So this is an appeal to insecurity. If I'm like, oh my God, maybe I really am hypocrite.
32:23I'd be sort of bound into this nonsense and I'd follow you into this maze that I was talking about
32:27at the beginning, but I'm not. So, so why, why would people want to interact with you? Why would
32:32I ever want to answer another question of yours? Why would I ever want to engage and interact with
32:36you in any way? I mean, I appreciate the support. I appreciate that if you're a donor, I appreciate
32:43that. That's wonderful. But, uh, you're not buying my time, right? You're supporting the show as a
32:48whole, which is the truth. And I'm telling you the truth and making my case for this. So this is a
32:53larger question for everyone. Everyone constantly think about this. When you go to work,
32:59are the customers, the boss, whoever better off for you being there. If you have a boss,
33:05are you happy to give him a portion of your salary? Cause he makes your life easier and
33:08better and more profitable. If you have a girlfriend, is her life better for you being
33:11in it? If you have friends as a whole, if you want to get married, are you saying to someone
33:15your life will be far better because I'm in it, right? Are you in that positive to the people
33:21in your life? And every time you interact with someone, you have to think about that until it
33:27becomes sort of an ingrained habit. I have it. I absolutely, in every interaction that I have
33:31everywhere in the world, I constantly strive to have people better off after they've talked to me
33:40than before they've talked to me. And even if that's an unpleasant thing in the moment,
33:44like I tell them a blunt truth, like I'm kind of doing now, my goal, of course,
33:47is out of a genuine affection for your potential to have you understand that when you behave in
33:52this way, quality people will avoid you. And the only people who will engage with this is
33:57half-wrecked, self-critical whoever's, right? I mean, you don't want that in your life. You want
34:01quality people in your life. You want confident people in your life. And the confident people
34:07in your life go through this calculation, right? So they interact with you. This is what happens.
34:12All quality people do this. I guarantee you. I've been around tons of quality people over the course
34:16of my life. I'm surrounded by quality people now. I speak for them with one voice, that when people
34:22interact with you, quality people interact with you. They're in touch with their feelings. They're
34:25in touch with their experience. And they say to themselves, am I better off for having interacted
34:30with this person? Now, when I get this kind of nonsense coming at me, I say to myself, huh,
34:38well, that was kind of unpleasant. And I made that reply. So I don't want to answer any more
34:43questions. I'm not obligated to. You can't hook me in while I'm a donor and you've got to answer
34:48my questions. It's like, no, I don't. I really don't. I really don't. Take your money and go
34:53if that's your expectation. So quality people, after you've interacted with them, will say,
35:02do I feel better or worse overall for having interacted with this person? And if you want
35:08quality people in your life, and quality people are people that you're better off after interacting
35:12with, if you want quality people in your life, then people have to be better off after interacting
35:19with you. I didn't like this interaction. I don't want to do it again, and so on. So you just won't
35:25have quality people in your life if you behave in this kind of way. And I sympathize with the source
35:29of it. I get manipulative parents and all of that, but it's unpleasant. And so why would people
35:37do that? Now, most people won't circle back and tell you this, right? So this is why I'm doing
35:41this. And most people won't circle back and tell you, huh, that was really kind of unpleasant,
35:47and here's why. Let me unpack it, and so on, right? Most people will just avoid you and move
35:51on in the same way that if you go to a restaurant and you have a meal you don't particularly like,
35:56you just don't go back. You don't go back and sit down with the chef and here are the ingredients
36:00and let me run through it, right? This is almost impossible to get feedback. I really want you to
36:06understand this. This is almost impossible to get feedback in your life. And so I hope that you will
36:14take it to heart and really, really listen, because I want you to have quality. I want
36:18everyone to have quality people in their lives, which means people have to be objectively and
36:22subjectively better off after interacting with you because, you know, that's economics, right?
36:26So it's got to be a win-win negotiation, right, for a transaction to be of value to both people.
36:32So, all right. So thanks, everyone, so much. Freedomain.com slash donate. Don't forget if
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36:53a wonderful afternoon. Talk to you soon. Bye.