Knowing Bros Episode 444 : Kim Ji Yoon, Chang Dong Seon, Kwak Jae Sik.
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00:00You speak English better than an American?
00:02No, it's not like that.
00:03It's not that you're fluent, it's the way you lead the conversation.
00:07I didn't live in America when I was young.
00:09I graduated from college and went to America to study and lived there.
00:12The pronunciation is different.
00:14Where did you graduate from college?
00:17Y University.
00:18Oh, I see.
00:21Isn't this a script?
00:24It's a script.
00:25It's a script.
00:26Why are you doing this?
00:27I don't think it was necessary.
00:29If you had done that, you would have been a regular.
00:31This is how important people are.
00:35You had a one-on-one interview with great people.
00:38How do you cast?
00:40Sometimes I do it myself.
00:43There are times when I say I'll do it over there.
00:45But there are more cases where I say I'll do it over there.
00:48There are more.
00:49Because people like politicians are hard.
00:54I have to express that I want to be more humane and go closer.
00:59In order to do that, there are YouTube channels that can broadcast interviews for 20 minutes without interruption.
01:07In a way, this is a diplomacy.
01:11People like that a lot.
01:13But it's too hard to do it with them.
01:16Why?
01:17First of all, it takes a short time.
01:20The time is short.
01:21In the case of President Obama, it only took 30 minutes.
01:45But the program that goes out is originally a running time of 50 minutes.
01:49So you have to edit it for 30 minutes without interruption.
01:52How do you do it for 20 minutes?
01:54We just talk to each other for 20 minutes.
01:56Or that kind of reaction.
01:57Huh?
01:58It keeps coming out.
02:00If you ask me to edit it, don't ask me questions like this.
02:05Actually, I adjust the questions in advance.
02:08But when I do it, I ask you another question.
02:12Then answer me.
02:14What do you do after the recording?
02:16Then...
02:18Mr. Seobam will come out.
02:20You know what Mr. Seobam did?
02:21He took it out.
02:22Edit, edit, edit.
02:24He took it out.
02:28No, I don't like that kind of thing.
02:30If you don't do that, it's amazing even if you edit it.
02:33Ji-yoon, have you ever felt humane to Sarkozy or Obama?
02:38Sarkozy, the French president?
02:40When we hear people like the president or the prime minister talk,
02:44They talk in a very formal way.
02:47There used to be a summit where a lot of normal people gathered.
02:50Netanyahu, the president of Israel, was walking like this.
02:52So President Sarkozy talks to President Obama.
02:55I don't know if the microphone is on.
02:57I don't like that guy.
03:00Really?
03:01Then President Obama said,
03:03Hey, I have to talk to him every day.
03:07If you look at it from the outside, you shake hands and hug each other.
03:10Those people are all people, so they talk behind their backs.
03:13It's fun. It's fun.
03:15That's how you do it.
03:17Then the most difficult person?
03:18The most difficult person is...
03:20It's hard. It's hard.
03:21Professor Michael Sandel.
03:22Oh, really?
03:23I think the professor will speak well.
03:24Is he talkative?
03:25The professor speaks like a poem.
03:29I think he wrote a book in his head.
03:31You're the type to talk very long.
03:33Right, right.
03:35Professor Michael Sandel.
03:36Professor Seo Sandel.
03:37Professor Seo Sandel.
03:38Professor Seo Sandel.
03:39Professor Seo Sandel.
03:40Professor Seo Sandel.
03:41Professor Seo Sandel.
03:42Professor Seo Sandel.
03:43It's very long.
03:44It's like he's writing something in his head and talking.
03:48When I listen to it, I'm attracted to it.
03:51Suddenly, he says,
03:52So, what do you think, Ji-yoon?
03:55Ji-yoon, what do you think?
03:57Does that make it clear enough, do you think?
04:00Yeah, it is clear to me.
04:01Because I read the book, and which can be called, I understood, as a civil republicanism.
04:09Yes, yes.
04:10He's asking the reverse question.
04:12You have to pay a lot of attention to it, so Professor Sandel is actually much more picky.
04:17But you study politics, run a political program, and make content.
04:21In the end, your dream is to enter the political world, right?
04:25No, because didn't he get a lot of offers?
04:27I think so.
04:28He got a lot of offers.
04:29He's a scholar, so he knows everything here.
04:32He only tells me if it's a nightclub or a movie theater.
04:34He doesn't ask for anything else.
04:36The first person to be a child-born politician.
04:39I really don't have any thoughts.
04:41And my child hates it.
04:43He didn't accept it.
04:44Honestly, there are a lot, right?
04:45Well, no comment.
04:49Then, Professor, do you always have to protect democracy politically?
04:53That's actually different for everyone.
04:55I try to talk in the middle as much as possible.
04:59What I'm curious about is what politics is.
05:02In fact, it's hard for us to feel politics.
05:05But I'm curious about what politics is exactly.
05:08Politics is ultimately a study of humans.
05:11The ultimate goal and goal of humans is power.
05:16How to get this power.
05:19How humans have lived for it.
05:22I think it's a good idea to study that.
05:24There must be politics in our program.
05:27There's politics everywhere.
05:29Who do you think has the most power?
05:32I think Hee-chul has the most power.
05:35That's exactly right.
05:37This is exactly right.
05:39World class.
05:40Unbelievable.
05:42It's politics, Professor.
05:43What are you looking at?
05:45I'm 100% sure I'm asking this question.
05:50I don't think so.
05:52The most important thing is that no one can win or be president.
05:59But the biggest power is the power to send someone.
06:03That's fake.
06:05It doesn't work these days.
06:08If you want to make a solo album, contact me.
06:11Do you have any experience as a soloist?
06:13Yes.
06:15He's attacking.
06:17I can drop someone.
06:19I can send Ho-dong or Young-chul.
06:22This is real power.
06:24I used to do that a lot when I was young.
06:26I used to do that a lot when I was young.
06:29I've been trying to send Young-chul for 8 years.
06:35I'm still alive.
06:37I'm a failure.
06:39I'm still alive.
06:41We're talking about your major today.
06:44It's time to focus.
06:46My major is encyclopedia.
06:51He really knows everything.
06:53It's not an encyclopedia. It's a two-page encyclopedia.
06:55I'm working as a professor at school.
06:57I'm working as a writer.
07:00I'm going to do two things.
07:01The reason I started this is because...
07:03At first, I just wrote a short novel like a hobby and posted it on the Internet.
07:08But there's someone who's going to pay for this.
07:12Who was the first person to offer to buy your novel?
07:16Publishing company?
07:17It's not even a publishing company.
07:18Son Young-seok, the producer of MBC TV, contacted me.
07:22To watch the drama.
07:23No, the real name...
07:25From Hwang Mi-young.
07:29Because there's an important moment in my life.
07:31I don't remember the name exactly.
07:32The producer called me.
07:33I got a call from the producer.
07:34At that time, there was a short film series called MBC Best Theater.
07:37I remember the episode.
07:38They're going to make it into 635 episodes and broadcast it.
07:41What's the title of the drama?
07:43It's an MBC Best Theater called Rabbit's Aria.
07:46It's Aria again.
07:48That's when I got inspired.
07:50I had Hwang Mi-young when I was young.
07:53I just wrote a short novel.
07:55How good it is to have a video proposal from the broadcasting station in the first room.
08:01I'm going to work a little harder and think I'm the best seller.
08:05Since 2006, I've been writing books and writing novels.
08:10Didn't you write 20 to 30 books?
08:12I've written a lot of books.
08:14The number of books is not important.
08:15The best seller should come out.
08:17That's what I'm saying.
08:18But in the publishing industry...
08:19That's why I'm doing it.
08:22It's a legend in the publishing industry.
08:25There's a saying in the publishing industry,
08:27It's called the speed of knowledge.
08:29What I'm saying is,
08:30There's a time it takes to write a book.
08:34I've cut it all down.
08:36How can there be so many books in a year?
08:39Does AI write it for you?
08:40That's why no one can beat Kwak Jae-sik's speed.
08:43It's like a legend.
08:44I'm not just writing it.
08:46I didn't fix it as I thought.
08:48It's Yonsei University.
08:50It's Yonsei University.
08:51I'm sorry.
08:52Yonsei University.
08:55There was no Yonsei University.
08:57I'll write it well.
08:58How many times have you done it?
09:00When I was in middle and high school, I was in the first place in my class.
09:03What's your major?
09:04I majored in technology policy cooperation at Yonsei University.
09:07That's a good thing.
09:09But Professor Jido majored in environmental science.
09:12I majored in chemistry.
09:15What exactly is environmental engineering?
09:18In what field?
09:20Environmental engineering is really fun.
09:22Think about it.
09:23We throw a lot of dirty water after washing the dishes.
09:26But usually, when dirty water flows into the sewer hole,
09:30No one thinks about it after that.
09:32Someone gets all the dirty water.
09:35I'm cleaning it up and sending it to the Han River.
09:39That's why our Han River is being maintained.
09:41Because I keep running that factory.
09:44All the cities in Korea can be maintained.
09:46That's why I'm doing it.
09:48Isn't it fun?
09:52You're doing a great job.
09:55It's very important.