Mohammad Zubair reacts ton Ahsan Iqbal's statement

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00:00But Mr. Iqbal has said that if there was any government today,

00:03it would have been facing the same problems.

00:05If there was any other political party in power, it wouldn't have been affected.

00:12Listen to this.

00:13The problems that we are facing,

00:16if it's the People's Party government,

00:18if it's the PTI government,

00:20if it's the Jamaat-e-Islami government,

00:22no one has the space to move a single rupee from here to there.

00:27We are in such a tight position.

00:30So instead of playing with the emotions of the people,

00:34I would like to advise everyone that there is no time to protest.

00:38If you have experts,

00:40and if you have a solution to this situation,

00:43then come and sit down and propose your solution.

00:48Mr. Zubair, it doesn't matter who is in power.

00:51These problems were bound to happen that the people are facing today.

00:54Do you agree with this?

00:58I don't agree at all.

01:00First of all, they themselves accepted their defeat.

01:03And they said, if you have any experts,

01:05which means we don't have any,

01:07then you weren't even alive then,

01:09and yet you raised your hand and said,

01:11we will give you power.

01:13So, first of all, you took over power by force.

01:17And secondly, you have been in power since April 2022.

01:21Now you are saying that we shouldn't play with the emotions of the people.

01:24Electricity bills are so expensive.

01:27So, we shouldn't make a fuss about it.

01:29We shouldn't make noise about it.

01:31The representation of the people in it,

01:33the people who are under pressure,

01:35and who is included in the people?

01:37There are not only poor people in the people,

01:39there is also the middle class,

01:41there is also the lower middle class,

01:43there is also the middle class,

01:45there is also the industry.

01:47All the segments of society,

01:49they are under extreme pressure

01:51because the speed at which the electricity bills have increased,

01:56is unprecedented.

01:58And I think we should remind Ahsan Iqbal

02:00that when you came in April 2022,

02:02and what were you saying

02:04after a month or two?

02:06At that time, the electricity bill was Rs. 16 per unit.

02:10Right.

02:12And it was promised that it will be Rs. 12.

02:14Now it has reached Rs. 70.

02:16So, that promise was also there, right?

02:18That you will give electricity to 200-300 units for free,

02:20those promises were also there.

02:23Those promises were also there.

02:25And the second thing is that...

02:27Those promises were also there.

02:29Nothing was fulfilled.

02:31Those promises were also there,

02:33but the biggest thing is that

02:35you got two chances,

02:37you came by choice,

02:39by doing a vote of no confidence.

02:41You said that we will fix the economy,

02:43we will fix the economy in six months,

02:45we will reduce inflation,

02:47we will reduce unemployment,

02:49we will reduce poverty,

02:51tell us something which has improved.

02:53Now you are saying that...

02:55According to the government,

02:57I am being the devil's advocate at this point in time.

02:59They are saying that

03:01we have made the matter

03:03on the lowest inflation rate of three years.

03:05That is, the inflation rate was very high

03:07in the last three years,

03:09obviously, their own government

03:11was there for two years.

03:13And now we have reduced it.

03:15It does not mean that inflation is declining.

03:17It means that inflation will be more than a little.

03:19Do you think it is an achievement to reduce the inflation rate?

03:25First of all, take a complete look at his government.

03:29When he came to power in March 2022, the inflation rate,

03:35if we compare it with the CPI, was 11.7%.

03:41After that, it started increasing and in the history of Pakistan,

03:45it has rarely been more than 20%.

03:48It did not even stop at 20%.

03:50Month after month, it went up to 24%, 25%, 30%, 35%, 38%.

03:56In March or April 2023, it was 38%.

04:01After that, it went up to 35%, 32%, 30%, 25%.

04:07And today, this 11.1% is less because of that base.

04:14Last year, at the same time,

04:16and that too, if you had done the inflation rate march

04:19against 10%, 11%, 8%.

04:22You said it in a vote of no confidence

04:25that you had done the inflation rate march at the end of March 2022

04:29that this 11.7% has broken the back of the people.

04:33That is why we are reducing it.

04:35If the graph starts from there,

04:38Anika, one second.

04:40If the graph starts from there,

04:43If the graph starts from there,

04:4511.7% and then go up,

04:48and then come back here.

04:51In the history of Pakistan,

04:53no one has spent 1.5 or 2 years

04:55in which there has been so much inflation in the history of Pakistan.

04:58So, you have to account for that too.

05:01So, now if you are saying that it has decreased,

05:03then you are comparing your first deficit with the same deficit.

05:08Okay, Mr. Zubair, let's look at the other side.

05:11Today, this is the government.

05:13And today, Mr. Ahsan Iqbal said,

05:15if you have any suggestions,

05:17then give it to us.

05:18Let's sit together and solve the problem of the poor.

05:20Fair enough.

05:21They are accepting that they do not have such a team.

05:23Then there is Mr. Ishaq Dar.

05:25Then Mr. Ahsan Iqbal himself is there.

05:27These are the people who are the core team of PMLN,

05:30who were considered the core team of finance,

05:33core team of development, core team of planning.

05:36They are a part of it.

05:37So, were these cards,

05:40which were considered to be Trump cards,

05:43were they useless?

05:47They were completely useless.

05:49They raised their hands after four months.

05:51They brought a five-year mandate.

05:53And after four months, they said that

05:55if you have any solution, then bring it.

05:57The first method of that is that

05:59in democratic countries,

06:00if you yourself are accepting that

06:02we do not have a solution,

06:04then you should step aside.

06:06You should tell some other party,

06:08like People's Party or PTI,

06:10that you should try to make a government.

06:12Because we do not have a solution.

06:14The second thing is that,

06:16two or three things are very important.

06:18The issue raised regarding electricity

06:22is significant.

06:25It is necessary to bring the government under pressure.

06:28Because there is one thing,

06:30Anika, on one hand,

06:32you have kept 1100 billion rupees

06:34to give to MNAS.

06:36For what?

06:38To dole out, to give favours.

06:40There will be no benefit from that.

06:42It is not for the public.

06:44The money that will be given to MNAS,

06:46hardly any of that will be needed.

06:48And if it is needed,

06:50then which thing should be given priority?

06:52If you use half of that 1100 billion,

06:54to reduce electricity bills,

06:56then won't that be a good decision?

06:58Interesting.

07:00You are not ready to accept a solution.

07:02The second thing is that,

07:04your NILI,

07:06does not only have the role of IPPs.

07:08Your mismanagement,

07:10because of which,

07:12the line losses in the last two years,

07:14have increased, not decreased.

07:16And who took the credit for that?

07:18The public.

07:20If the distribution companies,

07:22which are under the government,

07:24except for K Electric,

07:26their losses have increased or decreased,

07:28then to increase their losses,

07:30you have asked the public to take the credit.

07:32The public should not be held accountable.

07:34The public should bear the burden.

07:36You have said that,

07:38we will transfer all the costs.

07:40The costs will be there.

07:42The public should not be held accountable.

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