'I was pretty pissed off': Man finds his voter registration is challenged by nonprofit
Challenges to voter rolls inspired by a conservative Texas-based nonprofit group called True the Vote has some election officials worried. CNN's Kyung Lah reports. #CNN #news
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Challenges to voter rolls inspired by a conservative Texas-based nonprofit group called True the Vote has some election officials worried. CNN's Kyung Lah reports. #CNN #news
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00:00I've lived in Denton for over 24 years.
00:06I have been voting here for two decades.
00:09As we can see, I am real.
00:10I am here.
00:11I am talking to you.
00:12If you're wondering why Daniel Moss is defending his existence, it's because of this list.
00:18That's my first name.
00:20That's my last name.
00:21Of thousands of voter registrations in Denton County being challenged as ineligible.
00:27Finding out that I'm on some sort of hit list of people who shouldn't be voting.
00:30I was pretty pissed off.
00:32How did Moss, a legally registered American voter in the state of Texas and a university
00:37administrator, end up having his voter registration challenged?
00:41Because of the efforts of one group.
00:43Hi there.
00:44I'm Katherine Engelbrecht with True the Vote.
00:46True the Vote, a right-wing organization fueled by the MAGA movement.
00:50All of a sudden in certain states they found all these votes, a totally rigged election.
00:55And the lies that the 2020 election was stolen with illegal ballots.
01:00Welcome to the IV3 project.
01:02You have arrived in the nick of time.
01:04This is the group's online training session for IV3, a user-friendly app pushed by True
01:10the Vote, recruiting and training thousands of private citizens on how to submit challenges
01:15to local election offices.
01:18We've got to report what we can and get it as accurate as we can.
01:21And it is making an enormous impact.
01:24Adding up to about 700,000 challenges to voters across the country so far.
01:30Documents obtained by CNN show many of them use the exact same language.
01:36Daniel Moss' challenge came from someone he doesn't even know.
01:40I want to say it was Nancy.
01:44Nancy lives in the same county.
01:48And single-handedly sent in thousands of challenges this year.
01:52We asked around for her.
01:54I'm trying to talk to Nancy.
01:56But she did not come to the door.
01:58Nancy sends me something every day.
01:59Frank Phillips is Zetton County's elections administrator.
02:02As November looms, it's not just Nancy sending in challenges now.
02:06There have been days where I've received a couple of thousand names.
02:11Isn't it overwhelming to get thousands of names every day?
02:16It can be.
02:17I've had to look each of those voters up one by one.
02:21Roughly 75 to 80 percent of the names they give me, we have already dealt with.
02:25And the rest of the names?
02:27Well, you would catch them anyway.
02:30There's safeguards built into the whole system for any issue you can dream of.
02:36Meaning any of these questionable voters, like the people who have moved away, the system
02:40would eventually catch them anyway.
02:43More than a dozen election officials CNN spoke with say they're getting the same challenges.
02:48users when there's already a system in place that prevents fraud.
02:53But that's not stopping the leader from claiming this.
02:56In the space of elections, you know, the fraud has been institutionalized.
03:01True the Vote is based in Texas.
03:03First, we went to try and find True the Vote's office location, the one it lists on its website
03:09as well as federal tax forms.
03:12But we didn't find a brick and mortar office.
03:14Instead, we ended up here at a post office with a bunch of P.O. boxes.
03:20Next, we came here to this strip mall that the state of Texas lists as the current address
03:27for True the Vote.
03:29But it looks like it's a business that files income taxes and it's a functioning office,
03:39but no True the Vote.
03:42These mass voter challenges are definitely a page out of the election denial playbook.
03:49There is a bigger picture impact on our democracy, which is that weakening trust in elections
03:53and creating an environment where you can cast out or question the results of an election
03:58after the fact.
04:01Back in Denton County, Daniel Moss will be allowed to vote.
04:05Elections Administrator Frank Phillips found the challenge was wrong.
04:09For the people who are making all these endless challenges, he's chosen patience and education.
04:15In their mind, they think, hey, you've got thousands of people on your rolls that shouldn't
04:20be there, which turns out not to be the case.
04:23They come in with a preconceived notion.
04:25My job is to explain reality.
04:31Ken joins us now.
04:32So, Ken, we saw that you never actually found the True the Vote office.
04:36Did you ever manage to reach anyone there?
04:40We did reach them electronically, and they did send us a statement.
04:44And it says about his app, quote, it has developed a specialized processes, technologies and
04:49methodologies that have been affirmed by experts and courts.
04:54But they wouldn't specify who those experts and courts are, nor would they answer specific
04:58questions from CNN.
05:00We did speak with election administrators across this country who say a lot of the challenges
05:05coming from this app are just repetitive and sometimes, as you saw in our story, Anderson,
05:09flat out wrong.
05:11Despite all this, the 2020 election and all of the information and misinformation surrounding
05:16it has been a cash windfall for True the Vote.
05:18In the last three years of publicly available records, True the Vote has pulled in some
05:2312 million dollars, despite having, as you saw, no offices and only a handful of staff.