Karachi ki sarkay jald kharab kyu hojati hain??
Karachi ki sarkay jald kharab kyu hojati hain??
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00:00How a good road is made and how a good road is not made in Karachi?
00:04What is a good road?
00:05Let's talk about it. We have with us a civil engineer, Danish Bin Rauf.
00:10Thank you so much. You are from Yemenabad.
00:12Thank you so much.
00:13Danish, please tell us. You yourself have seen both the reports.
00:18So, what is so wrong here in Karachi?
00:20In Karachi, first of all, everyone has to understand one thing.
00:24The sewage system is a different science.
00:28Drainage system?
00:29Strong water drainage.
00:31Whenever a city or area or housing scheme is developed,
00:36first of all, the strong water drainage system is designed.
00:40After that, the sewage system is designed.
00:42And these are two different things.
00:44In Karachi, unfortunately, the strong water drainage system has collapsed.
00:50It has collapsed because
00:51when the areas of Karachi were designed,
00:54if we talk about North Nazimabad, Gulshan-e-Iqbal…
00:57Back in the 1950s?
00:58In the 80s.
00:59In the 50s, 60s, 70s, when it was designed,
01:02it was designed in such a way that all the residential streets,
01:08lanes, residentials,
01:09after that the commercials, their bypass intersections,
01:12then the main roads,
01:13its entire level is like a plate.
01:16It is designed like a plate when any housing scheme is designed.
01:21So, the rainwater never goes through the gutter.
01:26This is completely wrong.
01:29The reason for this is that our road,
01:31our road is made of asphalt,
01:33road is made of bitumen.
01:35If sewage water comes on that road,
01:37sewage water is such a chemical water
01:39that if that gutter water stands on the road even for a day,
01:43then the asphalt layer of black color has bitumen chemical in it.
01:48That chemical spoils that water in a day,
01:51then gravels come out.
01:53Basically, what is a road?
01:54These gravels are small stones,
01:58we compress them and mix a black chemical in it
02:01and in this way, we make a pavement.
02:04It is called tar coal.
02:05Tar coal, which I call tar coal.
02:07This tar coal, if sewage water comes,
02:09then it collapses.
02:11Now, in Karachi, unfortunately,
02:13this strong water drainage system,
02:15this was there 50 years ago.
02:17After that, it got over.
02:19Why did it get over?
02:20It got over because,
02:22you must have noticed one thing,
02:24that on the main roads,
02:26the buildings or the houses that you used to see,
02:2920 years ago,
02:30today those houses,
02:31the roads have gone up and those houses have gone down.
02:35You must have seen in Gulistan-e-Jhor,
02:36how many such projects have been made,
02:38that 10-15 feet of the roads have gone down.
02:40This was the biggest engineering failure
02:42of our Karachi system.
02:44Whenever a new road is made,
02:46the old road is dismantled.
02:48This is called scarification.
02:49This should be the principle.
02:50So that it maintains the level.
02:52Whenever a tender is given to us,
02:55its job is to excavate the old road,
02:59remove it and lay a new road on the same level.
03:01It does this,
03:02it lays a new road on the same road,
03:04then a new road, then a new road.
03:05As the level goes up,
03:06So which engineers are there,
03:08who give such advice?
03:10Look,
03:11where there is no family,
03:13and where there is only corruption,
03:15then all these things...
03:16No, but tell me one thing, Danish,
03:18that in this,
03:19there are some things that are not visible.
03:21I don't know,
03:22if someone is making a road,
03:23how is the material being made in it,
03:24what material is being put in it,
03:26what percentage of it is corruption,
03:27what percentage is whose share,
03:28I am not able to see this.
03:29Okay.
03:30But if the level of the road is going up,
03:32then everyone can see this.
03:33Exactly.
03:34Let's say,
03:36the contractors who are laying the road,
03:38plus the consultants on them,
03:40because no road is made without a consultant.
03:43If our government gives a tender to any contractor,
03:46then the responsibility of supervision
03:48is of that consultant.
03:50Even those consultant companies
03:52are not doing any work.
03:54Okay.
03:55This is simple,
03:56let me give you an example,
03:57if in a washroom,
03:59the point near the shower,
04:01if it is more than 2 inches,
04:03then how will you put the water of the washroom in it?
04:06So this is the reason,
04:07that when it rains,
04:08the roads sit like this.
04:10Look,
04:11in the current situation of Karachi,
04:13if you call Japan to make roads,
04:15they will also be finished in two rains,
04:17because until the level of the road is not maintained,
04:21the road system is that
04:23the road is made in a slope,
04:25so that water falls,
04:26so that water does not come on the road.
04:28Water should not come on the road.
04:29Okay, you have pointed out two aspects in this.
04:31One is that we do not have stormwater drainage.
04:33Absolutely not.
04:35Okay, so you are saying that
04:36the system has collapsed,
04:37then how will it work?
04:38Now, what do we do?
04:40Now, as soon as it rains,
04:41we are opening gutters in the streets,
04:44the people of the area open their gutters,
04:46when that water goes into the gutter,
04:48the gutter flows ahead.
04:49Then the rainwater
04:51comes along with the gutter water on the road
04:53and takes away the entire road,
04:55because there is no proper drainage system on it.
04:58That water stays for 1 day, 2 days, 3 days,
05:00because of which the road above is damaged.
05:02Now, I saw in your report
05:04that there are pits in many places in Karachi.
05:06Yes, there are pits.
05:07This is our infrastructure,
05:09the Seward line of the Seward,
05:11the contractor who built the Seward line
05:13on the road here,
05:15he did not do the jointing of the pipes properly,
05:18because of which the internal leakages continued,
05:20and the sub-soil, the base soil,
05:24the soil became soft,
05:26mud formed, settlement continued,
05:29and when there was a lot of water,
05:32the road was damaged.
05:34Thank God, you criticized the contractors,
05:37otherwise, because of the stormwater drainage,
05:39many people would sit in front of the TV and say,
05:41see, we used to say that it is not our fault,
05:43it is all the fault of the stormwater drainage.
05:45So now, what is the solution,
05:46what can be done for such a big city?
05:48The solution is that,
05:49we have just seen that in Karachi,
05:51our DHA has changed the entire infrastructure.
05:55Right now, we all see the DHA,
05:57they have completely changed the stormwater drainage.
06:00In the era of Mustafa Kamal,
06:02after the era of Mustafa Kamal,
06:03the recent stormwater drainage in the DHA,
06:06that too, when it rained a few years ago,
06:09in which the DHA residents,
06:11Yes, yes, I remember,
06:12their cars were submerged in the water.
06:14After that, NED University did a survey,
06:17and took out the levels of the entire DHA.
06:19Right now, Karachi needs the most,
06:22that any consultant company,
06:24or survey of Pakistan,
06:25or institutions like NED University,
06:27should do a survey of Karachi again,
06:29and after doing the survey,
06:30it should be told to the government,
06:32that in this way,
06:33the roads should be built on the levels.
06:34Otherwise, no matter how many roads are built,
06:36we see that in our streets and neighborhoods,
06:39every year, roads are built,
06:40and in the same rain.
06:41So, didn't the government ask for this proposal earlier,
06:43that why is this happening,
06:44tell us, we are engineers of Karachi.
06:45If the government was so good and thoughtful,
06:49then today, all of us would have gone out and exported,
06:53and Pakistan wouldn't have been in this state.
06:55But, unfortunately, we are unfortunate.
06:56But, think about it, this is a good economy, right?
06:58How much growth is there from this?
06:59Every year, roads are built,
07:00tenders are issued,
07:01money is made from it,
07:02houses of ten people are built.
07:03Exactly.
07:04Roads are built here,
07:05and let me tell you something interesting,
07:07especially in this Karachi city.
07:09You see, every year,
07:10the roads that are built the most,
07:12and the roads of the streets,
07:13are built in May and June.
07:16In June, their fiscal year ends,
07:19their tenders budget,
07:21and every year,
07:23the roads are built in June,
07:25and in July, the monsoon comes,
07:27and all the roads are built.
07:28Mashallah.
07:29If you see this,
07:30this happens every year.
07:31Very nice, very nice.
07:32And even in that, there are no levels.
07:34How many times does this happen?
07:35In July, when the monsoon comes,
07:36then what is the use of levels?
07:37Exactly.
07:38And how many times,
07:39when the roads are being built,
07:41if I pass by,
07:42I have a little knowledge about this,
07:44being a civil engineer,
07:46which is my friend's circle,
07:47that we were talking about this,
07:49the road was being built,
07:50and there was no level maintained,
07:51and we were sad that
07:52our money is being spent on this road,
07:54but what can we do?
07:56You can come on social media,
07:57you can be active,
07:58you can raise your voice.
07:59This country is not like that,
08:00where you can say anything,
08:02or you can say bad things in your heart,
08:04so that's it.
08:05You can talk about the roads now.
08:06Thank you so much.
08:07A lot can be done on the matter of roads,
08:09and you have presented a solution.
08:10Thank you so much, Danish, for being with us.
08:11We also got clarity.
08:12Okay, we knew about the storm water drainage,
08:14but what are the losses due to this level?
08:16This idea has now happened.
08:17Thank you very much, Danish.