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00:00How much should the Basque team be demanding from Jimmy Lozano?
00:05I understand that Lozano is coming out for results but also for lack of experience.
00:10I think that the Basque team should be demanding more from Aguirre, Luis Fernando.
00:14Totally, but I'll tell you one thing, I don't think they should.
00:16Why?
00:17Because there is a lot of friendship between the Mexican Football Federation and Javier Aguirre.
00:21I don't think they demand the same from him.
00:23Having in mind that Javier Aguirre has a lot of experience, a third opportunity with the Mexican team.
00:29Therefore, it should be demanded.
00:32I don't know if they should do it.
00:33I don't know if the High Commissioner, if Ivar Cisniega,
00:37sat down with him and told him,
00:39you have to win the Nations League or the Golden Cup,
00:42or take us to the fifth game if we don't stop you.
00:46Well, the fifth game can come because the World Cup will have one more.
00:48Exactly.
00:50I don't know if it was the same speech with Jaime Lozano.
00:53I doubt it, I disagree a little bit.
00:55Well, there is a difference.
00:56You can't compare Jaime Lozano with everything he did with Javier Aguirre,
01:03the best Mexican coach of all time.
01:05Yes, Canito, but in theory they should demand more from Javier Aguirre,
01:08and I don't think they should.
01:09What Javier Aguirre is going to be asked for is a performance,
01:12how should I call it?
01:14Decorative.
01:15Exactly.
01:16Unfortunately, that is the correct word in the World Cup.
01:18That is what they are going to be asked for.
01:20But Javier Aguirre's teams don't play spectacularly.
01:23They don't play well.
01:25And Mexico can't play spectacularly.
01:27That is what I want to ask.
01:28Do the players have to transcend Mexico?
01:31Above all, he says that the result of the Golden Cup or the Nations League
01:33should not be expected.
01:35I don't know what the result will be,
01:36because that is the first thing to consider.
01:38You don't have to win it.
01:40You don't have to win it.
01:41If you ask him to win it,
01:42you are asking him to give up above his level.
01:44Let's see, I don't understand.
01:46It is not an obligation for Mexico to win the Nations League
01:49and to win the Golden Cup.
01:50You have a worse team than the others.
01:52Why are you going to be forced if you have a worse team?
01:54It is not an obligation.
01:56Why are you going to be forced to do something if you are not the best?
01:59Unfortunately, with the wedge that Andres is putting him in.
02:01But unfortunately, at this moment he is right.
02:05The United States and Canada, at this moment,
02:07are above the Mexican national team.
02:10Especially the national team.
02:13It is a football of the national team.
02:15But we can't say that these two teams are playing better.
02:19One thing is that Mexico has to fight it,
02:22and another thing is that Mexico has to win it.
02:24Yes, Canito.
02:25Mexico has to win everything that is put in front of it.
02:27Why?
02:28Why?
02:29Let's see, Andres.
02:30In theory, it should be like this.
02:32Historically, Mexico should win.
02:34In a theory encyclopedia, we carry the weight of history
02:36and we put it in our backpack.
02:38Not because the United States and Canada are playing better.
02:40That means that Mexico is not going to win the commitments.
02:43That's what you're saying.
02:44What I'm saying is that they are not better.
02:46I'm not saying that the national team is better.
02:48At this moment, we have to have priorities.
02:51And the maximum priority is to have a slightly good performance
02:55in the World Cup.
02:56What you don't want is to play like you've been playing.
02:59Canito, if we go with that discourse of slightly,
03:02it's not going to happen.
03:04Because I don't play.
03:05It's never going to happen, not even in the fifth game.
03:08This is going to be history.
03:09Nothing.
03:10That's what you're saying.
03:11They should have worked on this for eight years or even longer.
03:15This is already a major question.
03:16Exactly.
03:17Javier Aguirre, in an ideal world,
03:18shouldn't have reached a third period.
03:20He shouldn't have reached it.
03:21But it's already a super emergency measure.
03:24And in that emergency, I agree.
03:27The most suitable is Javier Aguirre.
03:29Canito, look at what you just said.
03:30It's very important.
03:31If he doesn't win the Nations League or the Golden Cup,
03:33he has to change something.
03:34I don't think so.
03:35I don't think so.
03:36I think that if you make a semi-final or a final, you've already achieved it.
03:38For me, it would be a huge failure if you don't win the Nations League
03:40and if you don't win the Cup.
03:41So, I'm warning you.
03:42I'm warning you on this date that you're going to fail.
03:45So, let's continue like this.
03:47Although, no.
03:48And as Duilio Davino said,
03:49just to finish, Canito,
03:51Duilio Davino said after the failure of the Copa America,
03:53let's support Jaime Lozano and the projects.
03:56And you mentioned it a few moments ago, Oscar Francisco Cano.
03:58You said that they should have worked on this for eight years.
04:01Let's see,
04:02eight years ago, they've been changing and changing coaches.
04:05And you move him here, you move him there.
04:07And they sell us a speech when the High Commissioner arrived.
04:10After the Qatar, everything is going to change.
04:12Everything is still the same.
04:13Exactly the same.
04:14So, what does Aguirre have to do?
04:15What wasn't done, wasn't done.
04:16Aguirre...
04:17And he's going to pay.
04:18So, what can you demand from a firefighter?
04:20Watch out.
04:21Mexico with Aguirre,
04:22he's not going to look to play nice.
04:24He's not going to look to propose.
04:25He's going to look to contain.
04:27And that's what he's going to do.
04:28When the time comes,
04:29when the time comes for those competitions
04:31where an environment is going to be generated...
04:33What are those competitions, Canito?
04:34Like you say, the National League.
04:36That's another one.
04:37You're going to keep playing in your environment.
04:39Maybe the next year's Golden Cup,
04:41they're going to try to transform it.
04:42They're going to try to invite the teams outside of CONCACAF
04:45so that the United States and Mexico...
04:46Well, maybe it's better, Oscar.
04:47I want to...
04:48It won't be so official.
04:49Oscar says to contain instead of proposing.
04:51If the United States and Canada are better,
04:53maybe it's better for you to contain.
04:54Exactly.
04:55I haven't read the contract for Javier Aguirre
04:59but I don't know if even then,
05:01with everything you're telling me,
05:03it seems like Javier Aguirre is being spoiled
05:05or he's going to be spoiled too much.
05:07And his friend told him,
05:09don't worry.
05:10If you don't win the Nations League,
05:12if you don't win the Golden Cup,
05:13absolutely nothing is going to happen.
05:15And nothing has to happen
05:16because you're not the favorite to win.
05:18So let's keep promoting mediocrity.
05:20It's not mediocrity.
05:21It's realism.
05:22Exactly.
05:23Unfortunately, it's a realism that hurts
05:26because 10 years ago,
05:27it seemed that Mexican football
05:28was going to take another direction.
05:30It was when it had more established players abroad,
05:33when it had won a gold medal
05:35in a summer meeting.
05:37And it was just when certain directors decided
05:40to open the doors,
05:41for all the foreigners to come
05:43and stop producing local products.
05:46That was incredible.
05:47But in the current moment,
05:49it's the same again.
05:50What Javier Aguirre has to do,
05:51of course,
05:52he shouldn't be tempted by his heart.
05:53He has to be strict and forceful
05:55with those who don't give up in the national team.
05:57He doesn't have to keep calling them,
05:59as unfortunately happened with Javier Lozano,
06:01who kept going back and forth.
06:03The only thing I really hope...
06:04They ended up...
06:05I mean, Lozano supported them,
06:07but the players didn't support him.
06:08Canito, the only thing I really hope for Javier Aguirre
06:10and this directive
06:12in the Mexican Football Federation
06:13is that they are consistent
06:14and that they really make that generational change
06:17in footballers.
06:18I understand that not all...
06:19No, that's not going to happen either.
06:20Canito, I understand that not all of them
06:21gave up in the Copa América.
06:22In the same way that maybe others did.
06:24Very good.
06:25But going back to the past
06:26with former footballers
06:27is the same as always.