Mohammad Zubair told inside story regarding Maryam Nawaz and Nawaz Sharif
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00:00I think also how to mobilize the youth, Imran probably, Imran Khan has done it effectively.
00:06He told all the youth that I am your representative, I will represent you.
00:11Which no one else has ever tried.
00:13He just said that you have done this, now you have to vote for this.
00:16Imran said that I am your representative, I have to vote.
00:18This was the difference probably.
00:19Actually, PM LN made a very big mistake.
00:22They were doing a major shift.
00:24They became a pro-establishment party fully before the vote of no confidence.
00:29They can deny as much as they want, but clearly they are doing a vote of no confidence with the support of an establishment.
00:35At that time, it was very important to act in a balancing act.
00:38That we should not spoil the slogan of giving respect to our vote.
00:42And we should not even feel that we are pro-establishment.
00:45That was possible.
00:46But let me tell you a factual thing.
00:48And I am a witness to that.
00:49And this is not a story inside.
00:52The last political show that PM LN did, that was March end 2022.
00:59Just a week before the vote of no confidence.
01:02April 3rd.
01:03Mengai Makau March.
01:05So, Maryam Nawaz was there, Hamza Shahbaz was there.
01:08This was the last Jalsa in Islamabad.
01:10No, no, we went from Lahore.
01:11We went from Lahore, but the last Jalsa was in Islamabad.
01:13Maryam Aurangzeb was there, Musaddiq Malik was there, Dania Lassi was there.
01:16That Gujranwala where you said, next question.
01:18Now, let me tell you one thing.
01:20That was the first incident.
01:22The first political rally in which the slogan of giving respect to the vote was stopped.
01:30It was stopped.
01:32It will not be put here.
01:34We asked.
01:35Actually, Mifta Ismail joined in Jhelum.
01:41He was not there from Lahore.
01:43He was working to become the finance minister, whatever his work was.
01:46It was told to him.
01:48So, he joined from Jhelum.
01:50And we stayed the night in Jhelum at Bilal Kayani's home.
01:54Maryam was also there.
01:55So, in Jhelum's Jalsa, actually, someone had put the slogan of giving respect to the vote.
01:59Maryam had not reached yet.
02:00She was doing it.
02:01She was playing the Tarana.
02:03So, I remember this.
02:05Oh, what are you doing?
02:07And I was shocked.
02:09I mean, what are we doing?
02:11And this is March end.
02:13And the first impact of that came on July 17th.
02:18Just three months later.
02:20When PMLN lost 16 out of 20 Punjab assembly seats.
02:24No matter how you want to look at it.
02:27But that was the first blow.
02:29That was such a big shock that PMLN has never faced in electoral politics.
02:34So, I think, if you look at the electoral process.
02:37This discussion has happened many times.
02:39Why don't we put the slogan of giving respect to the vote?
02:42Why don't they play it up?
02:44It is a very good theme.
02:46It is very exciting.
02:47At one place, you tell us about the whole election campaign of 2024.
02:51I mean, it was like this.
02:53When was the campaign held in 2024?
02:56It was held in Punjab.
02:57How many campaigns?
02:58Rare campaigns.
02:59I have never seen such a lackluster campaign of elections in my life.
03:03Whatever it is.
03:04But at least 50-60 Jalsas have been held.
03:06No, sir.
03:07No, no, no.
03:08What is the matter?
03:09In which Mr. Mian or Maryam went?
03:10Maryam went more.
03:11If it is more than 30, then I don't care.
03:13Okay, whatever it is.
03:14Mr. Mian's schedule came.
03:15I still remember it.
03:16I am not at fault.
03:17After every 5 or 6 days, there was one Jalsa.
03:19Two or three of them got cancelled.
03:20Okay, whatever it was.
03:21But who stopped?
03:22It seemed like we had made a bargain.
03:24There was nothing to say.
03:25That we will not put the slogan of giving respect to the vote.
03:27We repent.
03:28Let us come to power.
03:29We will not put the slogan.
03:31So, do you think that Zubair Bhai's voter has gone ahead?
03:35Yes, the voter has gone ahead.
03:36And this voter has gone ahead because the leadership of PMLN is standing there.
03:40So, you look at the faces.
03:41The 25-year-old kid, 20-year-old kid,
03:44since he was born, he has seen Saqdar, Pervez Rashid,
03:48SN Iqbal, Khwaja Asif.
03:50They are the same faces.
03:51So, if there is a problem in Pakistan and everyone agrees
03:54there is a serious problem that Pakistan is facing.
03:57So, are they not the same faces?
04:00So, no youth is looking towards them for any solution.
04:04There is a disconnect.
04:05There is no change on the other side as well.
04:08No, no, there is no change on the other side.
04:09These are the same people who are behind them.
04:12Mr. Khan somehow or the other carries,
04:14despite reminding us that look at the age of Pervez Khattak,
04:18look at the age of so and so,
04:19look at the age of Shafqat Mahmood.
04:20This is not a party of youth.
04:21But somehow or the other, it never…
04:23Mr. Khan convinces people.
04:25Mr. Khan, there are two…