Shark Movie Deep Dive
Yes, it's officially Shark Week. Discovery Channel's made up holiday has influenced much of how we view these ancient creatures. But, even more, it has inspired an entirely new genre of films. Kevin Maher of AtomicAbe.com goes deep into the genre, from classic tales to CGI tactics as well as educating us on some lesser known remakes you can't wait to sink your teeth in to.
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00:00Hi, y'all. Welcome to Live Science where we live, laugh, love science. Today we are celebrating
00:13Shark Week. Happy Shark Week to everyone. And we are going to be talking about shark
00:17movies with, welcome to the stage, Kevin Maher. Hello, Kevin.
00:22Hello, everybody. How are you doing? I'm good. How are you? Happy Shark Week, sir. Oh, I
00:28see your shark in the back. Nice. I got the shark in the back and I wore my shark shirt.
00:33It's covered with a little, which somebody pointed out to me, it's simultaneously like
00:38it's shark heads from Jaws, but then it also is like Mayor Larry Vaughn's anchor jacket
00:45in the first Jaws film. So it serves a couple of purposes.
00:49Oh, well, I mean, it does look like the regular great white that we see and all. Is that the
00:54same shark you have behind you there too?
00:56I'm not sure what kind of shark that is. I'm going to guess it's a tiger shark, the
01:00one behind me. I'm not sure.
01:02Listen, I wish I had any of my colleagues here, but they're too busy covering the Shark
01:06Week.
01:07It's a busy week for everybody. Whether you're coming out of San Diego Comic-Con or going
01:12into Shark Week, it's a busy, busy July.
01:15Yeah. So listen, you love shark movies. Well, first of all, you're a movie aficionado. Kevin
01:21here is part of Atomic A Productions, where you can actually watch a fun shark supercut
01:27of different techniques that we're going to be covering today. But right now we have him
01:31to our exclusive to talk about his favorite shark movies and the best of all time, of
01:36course. What are your greatest shark movies that you would like to?
01:41I mean, everybody names Jaws and it's like, yeah, I can't argue with that. That is the
01:46Citizen Kane of shark movies. There's no question. But I do have some deep cuts that
01:52I'm not going to call them the best. I'm going to call them some of my favorites. Thank you
01:55for that, favorite. And the first one is from 1981. It's an Italian movie that is just shamelessly
02:04ripping off Jaws. It was released in the United States under the title Great White.
02:11And then Universal saw the movie in the poster and they sued and took them to court and it
02:16disappeared after one weekend. So around the world, this movie is known in other places
02:21is like a big blockbuster film. And most Americans never saw it. I meant to do a check to see
02:28if it's streaming. It had been streaming on Amazon. I don't know if it is. But let's let's
02:32take a look at Great White. Here we go. So every movie has the mayor who won't close
02:38the beaches. Sure. The shark. Get ready. There it is. It's pre CGI. Right. That's a
02:45real shark. That's a practical that's a puppet. Basically, it's a big, big, bony plastic shark
02:52coming up to get a mechanical shark. But then they intercut with real shark. And in this
02:59scene, what's happening is every movie has the mayor who won't close the beaches. But
03:03in Great White, the mayor sees that no one is is caught the shark. So he decides he's
03:10going to go capture the shark himself. I'm not sure what the plan was. Is it just like
03:14get it to eat the bait and then fly it away? Just like it's just like big fishing, right?
03:19Just like wily coyote shark hunting. And in Italian, it is the Ultimo Squalo. Oh, yes.
03:29And one of the things I love is we're going to see a pretty great special effect coming
03:33up. So stay tuned. He falls in the water. The helicopter struggles. And I'm guessing
03:41it was, you know, these are Italian actors. They were dubbed in English, so we're not
03:45hearing their dubbed voices. But he he hangs on as the shark comes back. And it's a very
03:51fake shark. Look at this. Oh, so you couple the fake shark with the fake human. You get
04:02you get a stunt body in there, a dummy to get ripped apart, chewing on the legs.
04:09Man, I thought for sure the shark was going to. Oh, no, here it comes. Oh, no.
04:16And this is this is part of why Universal sued because that that's very similar to the
04:20shark attacking the helicopter scene in Jaws 2. This came out in 1981. So it's like three
04:25years after after Jaws 2 came out. OK, so, you know, somewhat of a reference movie to
04:33the great, the great. Yep. And then we'll get into the science of it. But but some of
04:38the other ones I love are there's a Bollywood film. You know, we have to look internationally
04:43to how Jaws influenced cinema around the world and how they came back with their own version.
04:48So a tongue is the Bollywood Jaws. And Judy, do you remember the opening scene of Jaws?
04:54How it begins? Yeah, the kids are swimming. Oh, no, it's the two people swimming. Right.
04:58Two people go out to the beach, a guy and a girl just met. Right. Just met at a campfire.
05:04OK, so there's the shark and a big, big, big, big, big, phony, practical shark. But it is
05:10the shark. That's a very good question. This is I don't know. This is Bollywood Jaws. Bollywood
05:18Jaws. But what they did story wise to raise the stakes is that instead of just being a
05:25campfire, the scene where the shark attacks is that it's a wedding. It's a bride and groom
05:34are celebrating. They're getting drunk. She swims out into the water in her wedding dress.
05:40And the guy watches on the shore and sees his bride get killed by this shark. So they
05:45actually won up Spielberg and Jaws by by making it such a much more powerful revenge movie.
05:51You know, what's better than new lovers is married lovers. Well, they're about to be
05:56married or they just were married. And yeah, now the shark is going to come out of the
06:03water. And this is, I think, culturally it's just things are heightened. The shark kind
06:09of flies and goes over the boat, which we can question the science. Could a shark could
06:16an enormous shark not just breach, but actually go out of the water? I don't know. And like
06:24you said, science people are covering other more important stories than a Bollywood film
06:29from 1996. I just I you told me there is a Bollywood film and I was like, there can't
06:36be in that clip. That's fantastic. And then my I guess I have to add this clip.
06:43Well, we have to watch Jersey Shore shark attack next. This is this is one of my true
06:47favorites. Will it will it be on screen with us?
06:56So they just found a body that was killed by a shark.
07:06They're everywhere.
07:11So they're based on characters from MTV's Jersey Shore. And I think this is from the
07:18year 2012 when the show was still pretty popular. And I just really admire that the
07:25sharks look very fake and very cheap. So they they invested in the characters and the
07:32character relationships and the dialogue. And I think when you look back at Jaws, there
07:37are so many scenes without the shark. And it's about people on Amity Island and the
07:42relationships and the community and the culture and the conflicts and the tensions. And
07:47this movie does a really good job of making it like yuppie gentrifiers versus Jersey
07:53Shore guidos and guidettes.
07:56Oh, poor Snooki, poor shark Snooki.
07:58Nookie, Nookie. Her name, I swear, is Nookie.
08:04I just feel like...
08:06I forget the guy instead of being called the situation, he's called like, the
08:10circumstance.
08:15So that's...
08:15Well worth checking out.
08:17I might I might actually mess with that movie tonight to like celebrate Shark Week
08:21because I've already watched Jaws. I watched, you know, Finding Nemo. I love the shark
08:24scene in that. You know, fish your friend, not food.
08:29So those are your obscure favorites.
08:31Those are some of my obscure favorites.
08:32Love it. Love it. So actually, I wanted to point out to everyone, because this is live
08:40science where we live, laugh, love science, that we actually just came out with a
08:45awesome story about whale sharks.
08:48They're the biggest omnivores. We thought that they, you know, were carnivores like
08:51most whales. They just are not like most whales, like most sharks.
08:55But because they're like most whales, they also eat seaweed.
08:59And, you know, we have this lovely story here written by my colleague, Ben, and it
09:05just came out today, just four hours ago.
09:07So it's, you know, Shark Week, more shark stuff.
09:12But I'm curious if there's any whale shark movies.
09:16This has come up. It's a species of shark that does not get a lot of love in the shark
09:20movies. And I'm, this is just my theory, is that a whale shark seems a little docile
09:26compared to the aggressive nature that, you know, doesn't even necessarily exist, but
09:32was assigned to great white sharks, tiger sharks, bull sharks.
09:37Whale sharks do not have a dedicated film that I know of, but there is a whale shark
09:43scene in the movie Kongtiki, a Norwegian film.
09:46And you see it's just passing under the boat.
09:50That's when I see the flag.
09:51It's enormous.
09:52Right. But don't worry, it's eating seaweed, guys.
09:55Don't worry about it. Yeah, they got nothing to worry about.
09:57The concern in the film is that it's going to flip the boat because it's so big.
10:02So even if it isn't going to attack them and eat them, it could still cause a lot of
10:09damage to the boat.
10:11This is like nice production value.
10:13This is like, is this a good movie?
10:15Yeah, this is like a quality drama film.
10:17It's like a seafaring adventure based on a true story.
10:22And this is really, I think, the only scene with the whale shark.
10:28Goodness.
10:30But it's so beautifully, the CGI here.
10:33Look, when it goes under the boat.
10:35I was like, that can't be CGI, oh my Lord.
10:38I'm guessing that's CGI.
10:41I don't know. I don't think they wrangle the whale shark.
10:45Wow.
10:50But that's yeah.
10:51Look at that. That's the whale shark scene in Contiki.
10:54That's a whale shark.
10:56But I mean, so Jaws is the is the the base level.
11:02And I and I was saying this to my colleagues when we were coming up with our roundup
11:06for Best Shark Movies.
11:07It's like, well, we have to have Jaws.
11:08And it's like, I mean, there must have been movies before Jaws.
11:11So I'm posing you this question.
11:13There were there were a lot of them that were just these kind of seafaring adventures,
11:18probably more probably had more in common with Moby Dick than with Jaws.
11:23And that it's it's just about these masculine seafaring
11:27adventure stories of like being macho on land.
11:30There's even one I think it might be called Tiger Shark with Roddy McDowell,
11:36where he plays he plays like a well-to-do college boy who gets insulted.
11:42So he has to prove himself by going to sea and encountering sharks along the way.
11:48And he survives.
11:50And he survives.
11:51And it's like he's not generation.
11:54Yeah, not just he's not just up against the sharks, but like the tough guys on the ship.
12:00So it's about like it's a rite of passage of going to sea and becoming a man.
12:04And sharks are very symbolic.
12:07And, you know, they show up as one of sharks.
12:10And those movies are often one of many things you encounter.
12:13But the movie The Shark Fighters, I think that's from what?
12:18Nineteen fifty six.
12:22The the military is is filled the water
12:27around our main character here, Victor Mature.
12:31He's surrounded by an experimental potion that they're hoping will keep sharks away.
12:37So they're trying to come up with shark deterrent,
12:40kind of like in the 60s, Batman, the shark repellent spray.
12:44Oh, my God. Yeah.
12:49And so dramatic and very serious, very dramatic.
12:54And, you know, that's the thing about these pre-Jaws movies is that they are not
13:00giant sharks or smart sharks or super sharks that can come out of the water.
13:06It's it's terrifying enough just that they are sharks, that they are man eaters.
13:12I mean, honestly, it's it's why I don't watch shark movies,
13:15because I feel like sharks are, you know, I went to Australia recently
13:18and just researching, oh, you can't go into the beach there
13:21because there'll be sharks there.
13:22And here's a nice story of a woman who went swimming late at night
13:25and got dragged down.
13:26Her friend watched her get dragged out to her death.
13:28And I'm like, real life terrifying.
13:30Don't need to play with sharks or I don't need to go in a cage
13:34and swim near sharks.
13:35I mean, I can go to a zoo for that, right?
13:40But not for me.
13:44Not for me. Not for me.
13:45Totally fine. I get it. I get it.
13:47And I mean, maybe that's like the what is it?
13:49That that phallos of phobia, phallos of phobia.
13:53Phallos of phobia is the fear of the water.
13:56Yeah. And what lurks in it and that there's so much unknown.
14:01And I think one of the interesting things
14:07we see in a lot of modern 21st century CGI shark movies
14:10is that the sharks are not necessarily in the water.
14:14They're not limited to the ocean.
14:15They can be in a river. They can be in a pond.
14:19There's one movie where a shark comes out of the toilet.
14:23And it's just the idea that anywhere there's water around,
14:27always look, always got to look.
14:30So it's the kind of thing where the fear is not just the sharks,
14:35but just the unknown of what could be in there.
14:37And that when when we as the dominant species go on
14:42on land where the dominant species, when we go into water,
14:46we could become prey.
14:47So it's a big trade off.
14:49And I think that's what people are afraid of.
14:51And I think we had a do we have a philosophical clip
14:54we wanted to look at from the depths, I believe from the depths.
14:58Yeah, this is a very low budget movie from just 2020.
15:03And I think this is every childhood fear most of us have had.
15:07This is just a swimming pool.
15:08I'm like, no, they're not even in the ocean.
15:10They're not even in the ocean.
15:12Oh, dear God. No, what's going to happen?
15:13But the woman in the robe survived a shark attack.
15:15So she has trauma.
15:18And my heart is pounding. I'm so scared for her.
15:20She's on. She's on high alert.
15:25And she hasn't been back in the water since her since surviving a shark attack.
15:29So this is her first time back.
15:32Literally dipping a toe into the water.
15:40And she can't see something.
15:42Oh, I know I would regret this live stream.
15:46What? What? No.
15:51I mean, it's it's such an irrational fear, but the fear is real.
16:01Like the feeling and the sensation of being afraid of a shark
16:04in the deep end of a pool, even though my brain knows it's impossible.
16:08I've completely had that fear.
16:10So the movies, the movies that have sharks appearing everywhere else are just
16:14they're just appealing.
16:16They're playing to real fears that people have.
16:19Yeah, yeah, yeah.
16:21I mean, spoiler alert.
16:22It was not just a dream clip.
16:24I mean, it ends up being kind of a, you know, a hallucination.
16:28And I hate to spoil anything.
16:29But from the depths is a very low budget movie that's dealing with the idea
16:32that the the water is the subconscious mind and the shark is the trauma.
16:38So even though it's this like low budget movie
16:41that you would find at Walmart, Walmart is a great place.
16:43If you ever want to look at what are the what are the newest shark movies?
16:46There's always new DVDs that seem to go directly to Walmart.
16:50And it's shark movies you've never heard of, like Blood in the Water,
16:54nine headed shark attack.
16:56You know, they'll have so much stuff.
16:57I'm not I'm not I'm not promoting Walmart.
17:00I'm just saying this is where they end up.
17:02This is where they're available.
17:03And if I've ever been, I picked up.
17:05Yeah, I picked up.
17:07I picked up that one from the depths at Walmart expecting very little.
17:11And I was like, oh, this is a really thoughtful
17:14essay on trauma and the mind and that the shark is a symbol.
17:18So I was I was very surprised by the film.
17:21I don't I don't necessarily recommend it, Judy.
17:23I'm just saying I was surprised.
17:26Not as bad as I thought.
17:27And also, you know, we learned about, you know, water, fear and all that.
17:30We're getting some comments in here.
17:32People also love shark movies.
17:34And one that I don't believe we're covering
17:36because we've actually covered it on Live Science plenty.
17:39Megalodon or the Meg, I guess I should say.
17:41But the Meg is terrific.
17:43Very fun movie.
17:45And somebody mentioned open water, which is great.
17:47I mean, the story of making open water is fantastic.
17:50And it's it's also just really visceral response that like, oh, they are
17:55legit in the water with real sharks.
18:00And again, as as we see more and more CGI coming up, it's
18:04it's kind of a thing of the past that people don't don't mess around with sharks.
18:08Yes. Could that bring us into
18:11my love of the practical sharks?
18:13Oh, sure. OK.
18:15We have real sharks versus practical, which is another way of saying
18:18like electrical sharks, mechanical shark, or even just a puppet.
18:21It might not have any wiring in it.
18:23Very true, actually. Yes.
18:24We made a video people can see at AtomicAbe.com,
18:27which contrasts the different methods of making a shark.
18:31But I think the the early 2000s was just the last era
18:36where we saw practical sharks.
18:38And we're we're going to take a look at one of the
18:41one of the last practical sharks of its day.
18:44And it does look really hokey.
18:46But I just I find it personally very charming.
18:48I really enjoy the practical shark effects.
18:52Which one do you want me to show?
18:54Whichever one we can do in the split screen,
18:56because I think one of them is too long.
18:58Like Red Water.
19:01We can watch Red Water. Sure.
19:04This is 2003.
19:05This is the last as far as I know, this is one of the last practical shark movies.
19:11And they can't get up the ladder and the shark's coming for them.
19:18Yes, that's Christy Swanson.
19:20Yes, that's yes, that's Lou Diamond Phillips.
19:22And yes, and yes, that's a practical shark.
19:25Oh, that is beautiful looking.
19:28Isn't it great?
19:29I mean, I'm just appreciative of the quality.
19:32I I totally became a sucker for this movie.
19:34I was so won over just by the shark effects that are in there.
19:39And this is a rare example where they're not going to blow up the shark.
19:42They're going to kill it with a
19:44underwater drill that I guess they use to like drill for oil.
19:48I forget. This movie is set in the bayou.
19:58And yeah, they they go.
20:00Oh, my Lord, little full, full practical.
20:02And and also you got to give some credit here to Lou Diamond Phillips.
20:05He's he's got it as a leading man.
20:07I think he I've heard this is really tough when you're in the water
20:11and you're cold and you're holding and then there's a shark attacking you.
20:14It's the only story.
20:16Oh, there it is.
20:18So instead of blowing up the shark, yeah, they twist, twist, drill.
20:22And that's all right.
20:23Happening right there in front of Christy Swanson has something to play opposite.
20:29Plus, they're hard for sharks.
20:30They're just trying to they're just trying to get theirs.
20:34Yeah, I think I think that's a non ocean movie.
20:39That's a bayou took place.
20:42So we can speculate as to whether or not a a saltwater creature
20:49like a shark could actually survive outside of the ocean.
20:54A lot of speculation.
20:55We also have a shark attack, too.
20:58And this one is is set in the ocean and it's got a nice
21:01see if you can catch the Jaws homage coming up.
21:04I mean, it's already is looks pretty Jaws.
21:07Oh, well, that's that's it.
21:10That's that's her right there.
21:12So he's got to alert the the surfers that are way out
21:18and tell them that sharks are coming.
21:20And I just want you to pay attention to the big puppety
21:23looking shark head that pops out and very good editing that they they work
21:29on to incorporate real footage of sharks with with the phony looking.
21:35Yeah, good quality.
21:36I appreciate it.
21:38Yeah, I mean, just there.
21:41Oh, well, no. OK, here comes.
21:47That look like literally a puppet.
21:49It really does look like just a big, big old shark puppet.
21:52But it almost feels like they they probably just got like Barbie dolls
21:55and then just like the puppets.
21:58No, no.
22:00And this is one of the last ones you'll see.
22:02This is from the year 2000.
22:04OK, so even though there there were developments in time
22:08with with what computers could do and what they could animate
22:11and what kind of sharks they could create.
22:14They went with the big old practical puppets.
22:19And the music and the music, I mean, that's
22:22and in the comments, we're hearing that it's a bull shark in there,
22:26and I can't remember if that's right, but I think it might be a bull shark.
22:30Well, it's been a monkey is one of our main followers,
22:32so I appreciate their input. Thank you.
22:34Thank you. And for that, we we hope it is a bull shark
22:37and you're not spreading some fake news here.
22:40They also added that
22:43Ocean Water Certified Recreational Divers.
22:45I mean, like I, I would love to go diving, but this is all keeping me
22:50from a distance from these beautiful creatures that, you know,
22:53most of the time sharks are not that bad to people unless,
22:57you know, we're provoking them.
22:59But that's that's what happens.
23:02So continuing on with CGI.
23:06So there's some bad CGI.
23:08Do do we have Cyclone?
23:09Can we can we look at Cyclone before we move on to CGI?
23:12Here it is right here.
23:13So Cyclone is from 1978, and this is
23:18it's also known as Terror Storm.
23:19It's basically a disaster movie where there was a plane crash
23:22and people are on a boat.
23:23And the majority of the movie is people being miserable,
23:26being stranded in the ocean and debating whether or not
23:31they would resort to cannibalism.
23:32It's a very talky disaster movie in the in the tradition of like
23:36the Poseidon adventure or or the towering inferno.
23:40In the final eight minutes of the movie, they introduced the sharks
23:44and the sharks start eating people.
23:45And you can see they filmed this with real sharks.
23:49And one of the workarounds
23:52that's used here is this was filmed in Mexico.
23:56And from what I have read and I have not fact checked it
24:00because that's not my forte, but from what I read,
24:04cadavers were purchased for the film.
24:07I was about to say that looks like a real person.
24:09It looks like people.
24:11So they have real actors in the water with real sharks,
24:15but then they also put body parts
24:19and intestines in the water for the sharks to eat.
24:21And they filmed it.
24:22So it just was so visceral.
24:23It was so real.
24:26And these movies they'll film in Mexico and
24:30foreign countries where you can get blue,
24:33beautiful water and actual sharks.
24:35But then you can also probably work around things that like in the United States
24:39with film production, you probably couldn't take some of the same risks
24:43or harm a shark.
24:44Harm a shark.
24:45But also they're feeding them.
24:46So I feel like that's nice for those sharks, right?
24:48Yeah. But in the States, I don't know where you would buy a cadaver.
24:52I feel like from your local cadaver guy in 1978 in Los Angeles.
24:57I'm not sure what.
24:59Oh, they just go to the ocean then.
25:00You know, that's when the mobs are, right?
25:05Yeah. No, I mean, you're you're mentioning Mexico.
25:08And I was like, well, I hope they didn't just like throw body.
25:10I hope that would be OK.
25:11I mean, I was just researching the murder movies and I, you know,
25:14learned about snuff films and all that.
25:16And we can't even go into that with with shark movies.
25:20But yeah, I oh, and then thank you.
25:24Thank you, Tiger Sharks.
25:25And it looks like those were Tiger Sharks.
25:27Thank you, Infinite Monkey.
25:28Appreciate it.
25:30So, yeah, that's one extreme of the real shark with real actors and real corpses.
25:34But then what I think most of us have seen over the last 20 years is more CGI.
25:39Like you don't see a lot of real sharks in movies.
25:42So we have we have some CGI examples.
25:44And the first one we're going to take it as Blue Demon,
25:47which shows where things were at in 2004 for a low budget movie.
25:52That's supposed to just be a computer thing.
25:53But now this is supposed to be a real shark.
25:55Or it's supposed to be the main shark from the movie.
25:58Oh, yeah. No, that's a video game shark.
26:00I appreciate that.
26:00It it's like a screen shaver screen saver.
26:05Yeah. Video game shark.
26:06Yeah. Yeah.
26:08But anytime we see the shark in the movie, that's what you see.
26:11And it it has an unreality to it,
26:15but not in a way that they like were playful about or having fun with.
26:19And I think as the CGI got better, it changed what sharks could do in the movies.
26:25And a big budget example, or I think mid
26:30mid budget, but they they put the money into the sharks was
26:35Shark Night 3D that they had CGI
26:38because you can have sharks do things that a real shark could never do.
26:42Practical puppet mechanical shark could never do.
26:45So this is this is an impressive moment.
26:49So moody and dark, very dark,
26:51which is probably good for special effects purpose.
26:53Totally. Smart thinking.
26:56Oh, no. He's almost made it. He's almost making it.
26:58He's good. He's made it. He's oh, no.
27:04And the sound design, that real Foley.
27:07Yeah. The water coming up on the on the camera.
27:10And then, look, oh, there's this jet ski.
27:13And now the shark's just going to get on the jet ski, right?
27:16In a more in a more recent movie, that probably is
27:20a possibility of the shark jet ski shark coming soon to sci fi.
27:26We just gave them.
27:27I mean, that's easy. That's easy.
27:30But yeah, that's that's one of the things that the technology changes over time
27:33where you could do things in 2004 you couldn't have done in 1978
27:37because the the science is the way the movies are made.
27:41So we're looking at some of these examples.
27:44But then the movies get a little playful, a little snarky,
27:48a little imaginative.
27:50And in something like Megashark versus Giant Octopus, I don't want to
27:54I don't want to reveal what's going to happen,
27:56but it's a scene with an airplane.
27:59What I feel like of all the places we should be safe from sharks, airplanes.
28:04I mean, snakes, sure.
28:06But sharks?
28:08Challenge.
28:10Oh, God.
28:12Or the sun.
28:17It's bigger than the plane.
28:19Bigger than the plane.
28:20And it can it can achieve the height of a plane.
28:24Wow.
28:25Again, the CG is being used to allow sharks to do things that if.
28:30I'm no scientist, but I'm pretty sure that couldn't happen.
28:34I. I defer to the expert.
28:36I was going to say, well, let Infinite Monkey weigh in.
28:40What kind of shark was that?
28:41Was that an airplane shark?
28:43I just. Yeah.
28:45It's just in the movie known as a Megashark.
28:47This is how I want to watch scary thriller monster movies.
28:51I guess I should call them.
28:52But no, I.
28:56This is just entertaining. I love it.
28:58You make you make a really good point that like monster movie
29:01is really where it's at.
29:02That it's less concerned with being a real shark the same way.
29:08Godzilla isn't concerned with being a real lizard, it's just like,
29:12oh, this is a giant monster movie monster
29:16who can do whatever we need him to do in a given film
29:19that serves the plot and is exciting and fun to watch.
29:22So that's that's what you get with Megashark versus giant octopus attacking.
29:27And we have one more ridiculous CGI shark
29:31where just again, just the shark is no longer enough.
29:36You have to up the ante.
29:38And that gave us this movie, Toxic Shark.
29:47So this has kind of an environmental message,
29:49the toxic shark was a toxic shark born of toxic waste.
29:56Oh, born up.
30:01Oh, actually, Kevin, why don't you?
30:06I thought we were friends, man.
30:08It's terrible. It's terrible.
30:11Don't yeah, don't pollute the oceans because then sharks
30:15are going to end up with not you.
30:16I guess they're not attacking.
30:17They're just we'll just yeah, that's that's the way sharks
30:21don't even have to bite you anymore.
30:22They're just spewing their toxic waste at you.
30:24Right. Yeah, that's pretty awesome.
30:27So, yeah, as more of these movies come out,
30:30they're doing things that normal sharks don't do.
30:35And either they've been genetically altered or mutated,
30:39like in the Samuel L.
30:40Jackson movie where the sharks got smarter.
30:45Yeah, I mean, would you even call these like sharks, right?
30:48Like if they're if they're shooting
30:52radioactive snot out of their nose?
30:54Well, here's here's the thing.
30:55I have I have this device and I call it a phone.
31:00Yeah, I see numbers on there.
31:01That's just. Yeah. All right.
31:02So so the thing is, I use this as a flashlight
31:08and I play music and it's a wallet and I listen to music and podcasts
31:14and I text people and I do a step count and it does so many things.
31:21And I still call it a phone.
31:23But when you think of a phone.
31:25Right. Right.
31:26That's an outdated idea.
31:28A phone can't do all that.
31:29And I feel like movie sharks are like iPhones, that they do
31:35things that we never would have thought a phone could do.
31:38They eat planes in the sky.
31:40Eat planes in the sky.
31:42They have multiple heads.
31:44They know they're not limited to the ocean.
31:46So it's the weird thing where like at what point does the shark
31:49in the shark movie stop being a shark?
31:52And then it's just like a big movie monster like Godzilla.
31:55Right. Right.
31:57Well, you mentioned the multiple heads.
31:59Right. So here's
32:02three headed shark attack,
32:04which is the sequel to Beauty, the sequel to
32:09two headed shark, two headed shark attack.
32:12And it was followed by
32:15four headed.
32:16No, either four or they might have jumped right to five.
32:19But they keep making these shark attack, multi head shark attack movies.
32:25And it keeps coming back with more heads.
32:28Because what I mean, one is fine.
32:30I think one shark is
32:33very, very scary.
32:36But I guess you're more you're twice as likely to be eaten
32:40by a two headed shark.
32:41Three times as likely to be eaten.
32:44The middle one got it.
32:45He was going to get it anyways, if it's a shark.
32:47That just it seems a little unfair.
32:51So to the science.
32:54Yeah, I I welcome scientists to weigh in on
33:00how realistic some of the multi head shark attack movies are.
33:04Now, I mean, you were telling me earlier about the Mecca Mecca Mecca shark.
33:09Yeah. And that that, again, is it's a sequel to the one where the
33:15shark comes out of the water to eat a plane.
33:18Yeah. The the one shooting the laser is a Mecca,
33:22which really shows that it's in the tradition of the Godzilla movies
33:27that that Godzilla fought Mecca Godzilla in one of its sequels.
33:32So it's really telegraphing and signaling that these movies
33:36are in the tradition of Kaiju giant monster movies
33:41and that they should not be taken seriously as as science.
33:45Thank you. It's a genre of Japanese films and TV
33:48featuring giant monsters and the giant monsters
33:52will often battle Meccas,
33:55which are controlled by human beings for the most part.
33:58They're not they're not sentient robots.
34:01So the Mecca shark is being used to fight the Mecca shark.
34:06And in the trailer, they show the the Mecca shark is about to take down
34:10another plane. And Judy, guess what happens?
34:14I just I feel like there's no surprises anymore with sharks.
34:16They're just like, OK, I guess they can do anything.
34:19They can fly. They are everywhere. They are everywhere.
34:22I just I guess I was thinking that so it's going to be somehow in the cockpit
34:26and just slither down and be like, but like jumping out of the water,
34:30I guess, makes sense, I guess.
34:34Yeah. Yeah. I was wondering this, too, about the three headed shark.
34:37Is there one stomach?
34:38It looked like it had one body.
34:39So, you know, we're we're following the same have one body.
34:42Yeah, that's a good point.
34:43Now, if it had been a four headed cow,
34:46then you've got a head to stomach ratio.
34:49That's we should maybe think of contacting the science on this.
34:54Let's contact NASA about this.
34:57All right. So what else do we have?
35:00I think it's just the one clip left.
35:05Our most favorite.
35:09I guess before we get there, it's not a shark movie,
35:12but it's a movie with a shark in it. Mm hmm.
35:16I just want to see if there's any questions before we put up this last one.
35:21I think we've covered everybody.
35:22If you if you want to mention any shark movies that we have forgotten about
35:25and educate me and Kevin on this, feel free to let us know.
35:29I'm always on the lookout for a good shark movie or even a bad shark,
35:34especially a bad shark movie, I think, or, you know, a bad shark.
35:41Or a great shark scene in a non shark movie.
35:44Oh, no. Robin.
35:53Again, the full I love punching shark sounds
35:57of that poor shark is just trying to get his.
36:02Had me down the shark repellent spray.
36:11And he takes the cap off.
36:14But you have to shake it.
36:15Oh, I hope so.
36:16Otherwise you don't get the best part of the repellent.
36:20Well, luckily, Batman is still around and we get to see Batman,
36:24you know, mess with some sharks in the new movie.
36:26So maybe this will also inspire because Shark Week is still a huge thing.
36:29It's been around since 1988.
36:31They haven't really had hosts since the late 90s.
36:34And I mean, this year, it's The Rock, Dwayne The Rock Johnson,
36:37which is like levels.
36:39You know, we are we're getting there.
36:42But I feel like
36:44this has been so fun.
36:46I just I can't believe there's this many genres of sharks.
36:50So many. We've barely scratched.
36:52I know, like we didn't even cover the best ones because we've all like,
36:57yes, open water, terrifying the shallows.
37:00I don't even. But no, I, I really appreciate you, Kevin.
37:05Thanks so much for educating me.
37:06And my pleasure.
37:07And everybody, please.
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37:24It's it's maybe one of the most thorough shark movie video essays out there.
37:29Not really. A lot of media, a lot of clips.
37:34Well, thanks so much, Kevin.
37:35And, you know, keep it to life science where we live, laugh, love science.
37:40Bye, guys. Bye, everybody.