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00:00This programme contains strong language and adult humour.
00:04CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
00:31Good afternoon and welcome to the Countdown Studio.
00:34I don't know whether you've stumbled across the story that I've heard,
00:37that there's a film in pre-production stage.
00:40It's not actually made yet, but they're getting ready
00:43and it's going to be called Borg vs McEnroe, Rachel.
00:47It's all about that great 1980s Wimbledon final
00:51between those two great, great, great tennis players.
00:54Borg eventually raised the trophy, but it was a fight to the death, really.
00:59Of course, there's been quite a lot of those sort of sporting films made.
01:03How they'll do this one, I don't know, because presumably
01:07whoever plays those characters, Borg and McEnroe,
01:09have got to be pretty good at tennis, or will they rely on archive footage?
01:13I don't know.
01:14If there was a film to be made about a sporting event,
01:18which one would you go for? Football.
01:21Well, yes, it's got to be football.
01:23There's talk about making the Jamie Vardy life story.
01:26Already?
01:27It's quite interesting.
01:28Yeah, well, last season there was a lot of chatter about it.
01:31Until 2012, he was in the conference.
01:34Amazing.
01:35And then, you know, beat Ruben Nistro,
01:38his scoring record in most consecutive games,
01:40obviously won the league with Leicester.
01:42Extraordinary.
01:43If you watch that story in a Hollywood movie,
01:45you'd say it was ridiculous and it couldn't possibly happen.
01:48All right. Now then, Rachel, we've got Jamie Washington back,
01:51student from Huddersfield, trained to be an English teacher,
01:53had a good win yesterday, first time out.
01:55What happened?
01:56110.
01:57Well done indeed.
01:59Good man.
02:00Now, you're up against Kate Strang, a support worker from Cooper,
02:03in Five, who for many years, 20 years, I think,
02:06was a lead singer in a rock band.
02:08Yeah.
02:09Good for you.
02:10And you were performing all over Scotland, or...?
02:12Mainly in the north-east of Scotland, yeah.
02:14Good fun?
02:15Really good fun, yeah.
02:16And what sort of...? You're a rocker?
02:18Yeah, rock and blues, 70s, 80s, T-Rex, David Bowie, the classics.
02:22Good for you.
02:23Yeah.
02:24Let's welcome Kate and Jamie.
02:30Over the corner there, Susie, of course, Susie,
02:32and former producer and talent agent, now a TV personality,
02:36and the best raconteur I've ever met, it's Michael Whitehall.
02:40Welcome back, Michael.
02:42And Leicester City supporter.
02:44Is that...?
02:45Yes.
02:46Why?
02:4730 years for me and 45 years for Mrs Whitehall...
02:52Yes.
02:53..as a Leicester City supporter.
02:55I met her 30 years ago, supported Leicester.
02:58They've been a disaster every season.
03:01People have said to me,
03:02I cannot believe that you're a Leicester City supporter,
03:05and I always say, I can't believe I am either.
03:07They're such a terrible team.
03:09They are, but I'm still a supporter.
03:11And suddenly, last year, thanks to Claudio...
03:15Fantastic.
03:16But why was Mrs Whitehall...?
03:18Don't...
03:19Is she from Leicester?
03:20You need to ask her.
03:21Is she from Leicester?
03:23All right. Now, then, Jamie,
03:25let's start with the letters game, shall we?
03:27Hi, Rachel.
03:28Hi, Jamie.
03:29Start with a consonant, please.
03:30Thank you. Start today with G.
03:33And another.
03:35S
03:36And another.
03:38L
03:40And a farth, please.
03:42V
03:43And a vowel.
03:45E
03:46And another.
03:48I
03:49And another.
03:51U
03:52And a consonant.
03:55T
03:56And a final vowel, please.
03:59And final O.
04:01And here's the Countdown Clock.
04:21CLOCK TICKS
04:34Jamie?
04:35I think I've got an eight, but it's not written down.
04:37How about Cade?
04:38Seven.
04:39A seven. Your seven?
04:41Violets.
04:42Violets.
04:43Yes.
04:44Outlives.
04:45Yes. In the dictionary. Very, very good.
04:47Well, why not?
04:48Outlives.
04:51Very good.
04:52And violets for Cade. Nice word.
04:54Michael and Susie?
04:55One more eight.
04:56Somebody who delivers a eulogy is a eulogist.
04:59Where are you?
05:01So, yeah.
05:02A eulogist. Thank you. Eight points to Jamie.
05:04And it's Cade's letters game. Cade.
05:07Hello, Rachel.
05:08Hi, Cade.
05:09May I have a vowel first, please?
05:10Thank you. Start with A.
05:12A consonant, please.
05:14N
05:15Vowel.
05:17E
05:18Consonant.
05:20L
05:21Consonant.
05:23R
05:25Vowel.
05:27A
05:28Consonant.
05:30T
05:32Erm... Vowel, please.
05:35U
05:37And consonant.
05:38And, finally, F.
05:41Stand by.
05:50MUSIC PLAYS
06:14Yes, Cade? Seven.
06:16A seven, Jamie?
06:17Just a six.
06:18Your six?
06:19Cade?
06:20Falter. F-A-U-L-T-E-R.
06:22Falter.
06:23F-A-L...
06:24F-A-U-L-T-E-R-R.
06:27Unfortunately, that spelling, Cade, is not in.
06:31Just double-checking there.
06:33Yes, somebody who picks faults is not a falter.
06:36You can falter as in hesitate without the U.
06:39So, I have to disallow that. I'm sorry.
06:41That's bad luck. What about a horse that refuses to jump?
06:46Possibly called a falter. I don't know.
06:48Is that what you would call it?
06:50I'd call it a nuisance.
06:5314 points to Jamie.
06:55Now, then, Michael and Susie.
06:57You've got one that I think could apply to you, Nicholas.
07:01Flaunter.
07:03Cos you quite like a bit of a flaunt.
07:05You reckon? Yeah.
07:07You're a... You could flaunt.
07:09Pull me up short if you see me doing it, will you?
07:11So, flaunter.
07:12Flaunter, yes. It's going to be that for eight.
07:14And Susie?
07:15There's natural for seven as well.
07:17Natural. I prefer natural, yeah. All right.
07:20Now, Jamie, it's the first numbers game.
07:22Could I have one from the top and five of us, please?
07:25Thank you, Jamie. One large, five little.
07:28And for the first time today, your numbers are
07:31six, five, one,
07:34ten, ten and 25.
07:38And the target, 561.
07:41561.
07:48MUSIC CONTINUES
07:51MUSIC CONTINUES
08:14Yes, Jamie? No, no, I don't know.
08:16No? Kate?
08:18561.
08:19561. So?
08:21Five times ten.
08:23Five times ten is 50.
08:24Plus six.
08:2556.
08:26Times the other ten.
08:27560.
08:28Add the one.
08:29561. Lovely.
08:30APPLAUSE
08:33Well done.
08:35Well done, Kate.
08:36That's only four behind now, 14 to ten,
08:39as we turn to our first Tea Time teaser,
08:42which is Gary Moon.
08:44And the clue.
08:45Gary was an expert in the field of growing crops.
08:48Gary was an expert in the field of growing crops.
09:08Welcome back, welcome back.
09:10I left with a clue.
09:11Gary was an expert in the field of growing crops.
09:14And the answer is agronomy.
09:16Agronomy, Susie?
09:17Agare, meaning field,
09:18and then the normal part is actually Greek for arranging,
09:21so it's all about field arranging, originally.
09:23Well done. Thank you, Susie.
09:2414 plays ten, and it's Kate's letters game.
09:27Kate?
09:28Consonant, please.
09:29Thank you, Kate.
09:31S.
09:32Vowel.
09:35I.
09:36Consonant.
09:38M.
09:40Vowel.
09:42O.
09:44Consonant.
09:46S.
09:48Consonant.
09:50D.
09:52Vowel.
09:54E.
09:57Vowel.
09:59O.
10:01And consonant, please.
10:02And lastly, N.
10:05Stand by.
10:17MUSIC CONTINUES
10:39Kate?
10:40Six.
10:41A six, yes, Jamie?
10:42A six.
10:43Kate?
10:44Monies.
10:45Monies.
10:46And demons.
10:47Yep.
10:48Now, Michael and Susie?
10:50Well, there's an eight and a nine.
10:52Oh!
10:53I'll start with the eight.
10:55Sodomise is there for eight.
10:57Yes.
10:58And there is a nine.
10:59Moodiness.
11:01Have you got it?
11:02Moodiness.
11:08Very good.
11:09Moodiness. Let's stick with the moodiness.
11:1220 plays 16, and, Jamie?
11:14Your letters game.
11:15Start with a consonant, please, Rachel.
11:17Thank you, Jamie.
11:19P.
11:20And another?
11:22B.
11:23And another?
11:25R.
11:26And a vowel?
11:28I.
11:29And another?
11:30E.
11:31And a third?
11:33A.
11:34Consonant, please.
11:36T.
11:38Consonant.
11:39R.
11:40And a final vowel, please.
11:42And a final?
11:43U.
11:44Stand by.
12:13MUSIC STOPS
12:16Jamie?
12:17A seven.
12:18A seven. And Kate?
12:20Six.
12:21Your six?
12:22Pirate.
12:23Pirate. And?
12:24Rapture.
12:25Rapture.
12:26Lovely.
12:27Great word, isn't it? Rapture.
12:29Enraptured. Michael?
12:31Susie?
12:32Arbiter, we've got.
12:34Mm-hm.
12:35Very good.
12:36Lots and lots of sevens, actually.
12:38A perturb is there, rare bit.
12:41And a partier. Somebody who enjoys a good party.
12:44Partier.
12:4627-16, and now it's numbers. Numbers for Kate.
12:49I have two large and four small, please.
12:52Thank you, Kate. Two from the top row and four from the bottom ones.
12:56And for this round, the little ones are six, one, nine and ten.
13:02And the big ones, 175.
13:05And the target, 187.
13:07187.
13:38Kate?
13:40187.
13:42187, Jamie?
13:43187.
13:44Thank you. Kate?
13:46I said nine minus six is three.
13:48Yep.
13:49Minus one is the two.
13:50Two.
13:51And then add everything up.
13:5210, 75 and 100. Lovely.
13:55Same way?
13:56Yep, same way.
13:57Yeah.
13:58Well done.
13:59APPLAUSE
14:00So, 37 plays 26.
14:0437 to Kate's 26, as we turn to Michael.
14:08And, Michael, juggling all those big TV stars, film stars,
14:12their needs, their egos and all the rest of it,
14:14those, you know, things didn't always go smoothly.
14:18Um, most of the time, I think they may.
14:22I mean, ego was, yeah, sometimes a bit of a problem.
14:26But I tried to keep my ego down, so, you know...
14:29LAUGHTER
14:31It usually worked all right.
14:33But one story I do remember,
14:36there was an actress called Dorothy Tootin,
14:39who sadly is no longer with us.
14:42And we had a system in our office,
14:44because we used to get a lot of fan mail,
14:47that somebody would actually open the fan mail
14:50and make sure that there wasn't sort of abusive stuff in it,
14:53because sometimes people wrote sort of, you know,
14:56not nice things to people.
14:58So, we had a man, well, he wasn't only there for that purpose,
15:02he was a bookkeeper, he was called Mr Scutt.
15:05And Mr Scutt's job was to open letters
15:09and just make sure that they were all right to forward on.
15:14One day, Mr Scutt comes down to my office,
15:18holding an envelope which has been ripped open,
15:23and he says,
15:24I'm sorry, Michael, but I think I shouldn't have opened this.
15:27It said Buckingham Palace at the top,
15:30and it had a seal on the back of it.
15:33And in it was a letter from the Lord Chamberlain's office,
15:37asking Dorothy Tootin if she would like to become
15:40a Dame of the British Empire.
15:43And for a reply to that effect,
15:46and then she would become a DBE in the New Year's Honours.
15:50And this is in October, this letter arrives.
15:53So Stephen says, so what shall I do with it?
15:55And I said, well, I don't think you can stick a bit of sellotape on it
15:58and forward it, so you'd better leave it with me.
16:01So I turned to Mrs Whitehall, who looked after the whole thing.
16:05She got a new envelope, she got one that looked like the original one,
16:11she got some sealing wax and put the seal...
16:17It was a work of art.
16:20And then Hilary and I went round to Dorothy Tootin's house
16:24in the middle of the night.
16:26She had a whippet, which I didn't want to wake up,
16:29and she also had a burglar alarm.
16:32Anyway, I popped it through like that,
16:36and then we went off, we went to bed.
16:39Nothing happened, we didn't hear from anybody,
16:42and I thought, that's an absolute triumph.
16:44And indeed it was.
16:46At the end of December, when it was announced that she'd got it,
16:49she rang me and she said, have you seen the paper?
16:52And I said, no. She said, I've been made a dame of the British Empire.
16:56And I said, oh, Dorothy, how wonderful.
16:58What wonderful news and what a lovely surprise.
17:04Lovely story.
17:06APPLAUSE
17:1037 for his 26, and it's Jamie's letters game.
17:13Jamie? Start with a consonant, please, Rachel.
17:15Thank you, Jamie. Y.
17:17And another?
17:19M.
17:21And a vowel?
17:23O.
17:25And a consonant?
17:27R.
17:29And another?
17:31D.
17:33And a vowel?
17:35I.
17:37And another?
17:39A.
17:41And a consonant?
17:43N.
17:45MUSIC PLAYS
18:15Jamie? A seven.
18:17A seven. Kate?
18:19A six.
18:21And that six would be...?
18:23Oh, no, sorry, I've lost.
18:25All right. Jamie?
18:27Roaming. Roaming.
18:29There we go.
18:31Now, then, Michael?
18:33We've got adoring.
18:35Adoring, indeed.
18:37Yeah, that's a nice seven. And there is an eight there as well.
18:39Roadie-ing. If you act as a roadie for a band, you are roadie-ing for them.
18:42That'll give you an eight.
18:45Wow.
18:4724 plus 26, Kate.
18:49Let us go.
18:51Consonant, please, first.
18:53S.
18:55And a vowel?
18:57E.
18:59And a consonant?
19:01Q.
19:03And another consonant?
19:05N.
19:07Vowel?
19:09U.
19:11Vowel?
19:13A.
19:15Consonant?
19:17M.
19:19Consonant?
19:21R.
19:23And...
19:26..another vowel, please?
19:28And the last one, I.
19:30Stand by.
19:32MUSIC PLAYS
19:41MUSIC CONTINUES
20:03Kate?
20:05I think I've got an eight.
20:07And Jamie?
20:09Surname?
20:11No, I think Kate's trying.
20:13Marquise, I think.
20:15Marquise?
20:17Marquise, very good. The wife or widow of a marquess. Excellent.
20:20Excellent.
20:22APPLAUSE
20:24Excellent stuff. That was what we had.
20:26Yes.
20:28And we had surname and otherwise mark,
20:30with a Q-U-E-S, mark of car, for example.
20:33But Marquise, excellent eight.
20:35Very good.
20:37And now, Jamie, it's your numbers game.
20:40Could I have one large and five small, please, Rachel?
20:43You can indeed. Thank you, Jamie. One big one.
20:45Five littlens.
20:47And this time the small numbers are nine, one, six, eight and ten.
20:53And the big one, 75.
20:56And the target, 726.
20:58726.
21:00MUSIC PLAYS
21:07MUSIC CONTINUES
21:30Jamie?
21:32726.
21:34Kate?
21:3675 minus one is 74.
21:3874.
21:40Times by ten.
21:42Times by ten, 740.
21:44And take away the eight and the six.
21:46And the eight and the six.
21:48And Kate?
21:5075 times ten is 750.
21:52Yep.
21:54Nine minus six is three.
21:56Times eight is 24.
21:58Lots of ways for this one. Well done.
22:00APPLAUSE
22:02Well done.
22:0444, as we turn to our second tea time teaser,
22:07which is had a nice.
22:09And the clue, they had a nice time staying here while visiting Spain.
22:13They had a nice time staying here while visiting Spain.
22:17MUSIC PLAYS
22:26APPLAUSE
22:28APPLAUSE
22:34Welcome back. Welcome back. I left you with a clue.
22:37They had a nice time staying here while visiting Spain.
22:40And the answer is Hacienda.
22:43Hacienda.
22:45There we go. 54 to 44.
22:47Kate, letters game.
22:50Consonant, please, Rachel.
22:52Thank you, Kate. H
22:54Vowel.
22:56A
22:58Consonant.
23:00P
23:02Vowel.
23:04A
23:06Consonant.
23:08R
23:10Another consonant.
23:12W
23:14Vowel.
23:16U
23:18Another vowel.
23:20A
23:22And consonant.
23:24Bye.
23:55Yes, Kate? Six.
23:57Jamie? Six.
23:59Kate? Pusher.
24:01Pusher. Jamie? A washer.
24:03And a washer. A pusher and a washer.
24:06Any advances, Michael, Susie?
24:09Phrase.
24:11But that's only six. Yep.
24:13Lots of sixes. Shaper there as well.
24:15There might well be more, but we haven't found it yet.
24:18Thank you. 60 plays 50.
24:20Jamie?
24:23You have a consonant, please, Rachel.
24:25Thank you, Jamie. L
24:27And another.
24:29T
24:31And a third.
24:33S
24:35And a vowel. E
24:37And another. I
24:39And another.
24:41U
24:43And a consonant. R
24:45And another.
24:47T
24:49And a final vowel, please.
24:51And a final O.
24:53Stand by.
25:22MUSIC STOPS
25:26Jamie? Eight.
25:28An eight. Kate? Seven.
25:30Your seven? Loiters.
25:32Loiters and...? Outliers.
25:34Outliers. Excellent, yes.
25:36Great countdown word there. It is indeed.
25:38Well done.
25:40Well done.
25:42Michael, Susie, any advances?
25:44You've got another eight.
25:46Yes, triolets are there as well.
25:49It's a pretty word for poems of eight lines,
25:52with the first line recurring as the fourth and seventh and so on,
25:55so every third line.
25:57That will give you another eight.
25:59A triolet. Triolet.
26:01Well, well. That's new on me.
26:0368 plays 50.
26:05And Susie, origins of words.
26:07And today?
26:09Today I'm going to look back to almost a millennium and a half ago
26:14when a Teutonic horde came over the hills into Italy.
26:18And these were the Longbeards, or Longobardi, as they were called.
26:22And they'd been named, in fact, by Julius Caesar.
26:25And they established the town of Lombardi from that name, Longobardi.
26:30Lombardi soon became a money-lending centre.
26:34The Lombards were absolutely famous for their skills in the financial sector.
26:39And pawnshops became known as lumber shops.
26:42First were Lombard shops and then lumber shops eventually.
26:45This Lombard street in London was once renowned for its pawnbroking shops.
26:49It's now a key street in the city, often seen as London's Wall Street.
26:53And it's got a history going back to medieval times of merchant banking.
26:58And in Paris too there's a rue de Lombard.
27:00I think in San Francisco there's a Lombard street which is very crooked.
27:03Not sure whether it was anything to do with financial crookery.
27:07But today, when we talk about lumber being a pile of trinkets
27:12or an array of articles that have fallen into disuse
27:15or are just a bit of a miscellaneous hodgepodge of different things,
27:19that too looks back probably to the goods that were once sold in pawnbroking shops.
27:24This isn't the same as the lumber that lumberjacks carry.
27:28Although that too may well go back to the idea of timber
27:32sawn into sort of rough planks again,
27:34things that were slightly in a mishmash or disarray.
27:37Finally, landlubber, you might think, might be linked.
27:41Sadly, probably not.
27:42That goes back to a very, very old word, lubber, which meant to spoil.
27:46But one of my favourite words means an awkward or unskilled sailor
27:49or indeed somebody who knows nothing about the sea at all.
27:52But I love the idea that Lombardy is rooted in those long beards
27:55of people who conquered it a very long time ago.
27:57That's wonderful. Wonderful.
27:59APPLAUSE
28:02Thank you, Susie. 68 plays 50. Kate on 50.
28:05And it's Kate's letters game.
28:07Consonant, please, Rachel. Thank you, Kate.
28:10H
28:11And another one.
28:13B
28:14A vowel, please.
28:16A
28:18And another one.
28:19I
28:21Consonant, please.
28:23D
28:24And another one.
28:26T
28:28Vowel.
28:30E
28:31And another.
28:34I
28:36And consonant.
28:38And the last one.
28:40S
28:41Stand by.
29:09Yes, Kate?
29:11Um, six.
29:13Jamie?
29:14Six.
29:15Kate?
29:16Shaved.
29:17And you're both shaved?
29:18Same word, yeah.
29:19Very good.
29:21Michael?
29:23Susie?
29:24Visited.
29:25Yes?
29:26Visited, that game will give you a seven.
29:28And divest is there for six, originally, to take your vest off.
29:31Yeah.
29:32But you can get beyond seven.
29:34Thank you. Well done.
29:3774-56, Jamie, final letters game.
29:40Start with a consonant, please, Rachel.
29:42Thank you, Jamie.
29:43L
29:44And another.
29:46F
29:47And a third.
29:49P
29:50And a vowel.
29:52O
29:53And another.
29:55E
29:56And a consonant.
29:58D
30:00And another.
30:02R
30:03And a vowel.
30:06A
30:07And a final consonant, please.
30:09And a final T.
30:11Stand by.
30:36MUSIC STOPS
30:43Jamie?
30:44Seven.
30:45Kate?
30:46Seven.
30:47Now then, Jamie.
30:48Floated.
30:49And?
30:50Floater.
30:51And a floater.
30:53Very good.
30:54Susie? Michael?
30:56You've got something there.
30:57You have financial eight there, which is a deflator,
31:00something which brings value down, inflation down, possibly.
31:05Examples here are the GDP deflator,
31:08which is a key gauge of inflation.
31:10So, yeah.
31:11There we go.
31:12Deflator.
31:13Anyone pays 63.
31:14And now, Kate, it's your numbers game.
31:16Final one.
31:18Have one large one, Rachel, please, and five small.
31:21Not going to gamble?
31:23No.
31:24Just the one large five-fifth one.
31:26Still could take this. Thank you, Kate.
31:28OK.
31:29Last numbers of the day are four, one, two, five, nine,
31:35and a large one, 100.
31:37And the target, 636.
31:39636.
31:41MUSIC PLAYS
31:59MUSIC STOPS
32:11Kate?
32:12100... 636.
32:14636. Jamie?
32:16636.
32:17Yes, Kate?
32:19100 plus 1 plus 5...
32:21..is 106.
32:234 plus 2 is 6. Multiply.
32:26Hardest one to finish on.
32:28Thank you, Jamie.
32:295 plus 1 is 6, times 100, and then 9 times 4 for the 36.
32:33Ah, OK. Yeah, 9 times 4. Lovely.
32:35There we go. All right.
32:37APPLAUSE
32:39So, well played, both of you.
32:4191 plays 73 as we go into the final round.
32:44Fingers on buzzers.
32:45Jamie and Kate, let's reveal today's Countdown Conundrum.
32:49MUSIC PLAYS
32:56MUSIC STOPS
33:20Foxed up here.
33:22Got to be hard.
33:24I see hands here.
33:26Yes, sir?
33:28Hydraulic.
33:29Hydraulic.
33:30Let's see whether you're right.
33:32Let's roll it and see.
33:36APPLAUSE
33:37Hydraulic.
33:39Well done.
33:41There you go. Hydraulic.
33:43Well done, Kate. Well done.
33:46Well played. 73 to 91.
33:48Bearing in mind he scored 110 yesterday, that's a good score.
33:52And take this goodie bag back to Cooper with you.
33:55Thank you. All right, well done.
33:57And, Jamie, well done. Well done again.
33:59But now we're devoting ourselves to the Paralympics,
34:02so we'll be back on the week on Monday, 19th September.
34:05So enjoy the Paralympics. Brilliant, I will do.
34:07Rest up, you come as you stand. I'll look forward to it.
34:09Well done. Thank you.
34:10And, Michael, you'll come back?
34:12I'll be back.
34:13Lovely. Well done.
34:14Susie, have a break.
34:16And we'll see you on the night.
34:18Rachel?
34:19Yep, time for the Superhumans.
34:21Indeed, indeed.
34:22See you then.
34:23See you soon.
34:24Look forward to it. All right.
34:2619th September, watch the Paralympics, then join us here.
34:29Same place, same time, you'll be sure of it.
34:31A very good afternoon.
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34:51The curtain raiser tonight.
34:52The last leg starts the party from eight o'clock,
34:54out with the red carpet and welcome to Rio.
34:57Nine o'clock, Paralympics 2016 opening ceremony live.
35:01Channel 4, proud Paralympic broadcaster.
35:03Coming up, Gok Wan, the ideal filler.