徹子の部屋 2024年8月21日 〈ファーストサマーウイカ〉大河ドラマにも!成功の秘訣は“マイルール”

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徹子の部屋 2024年8月21日 〈ファーストサマーウイカ〉大河ドラマにも!成功の秘訣は“マイルール”
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00:00Today's guest is Ms. Oika First Summer, who has just stepped out of a variety show and is now doing a great job as an actress.
00:12Please come this way.
00:18Please have a seat.
00:20Thank you for having me.
00:21Thank you for having me.
00:24She is a person who has now found a great job thanks to her mother's advice.
00:34Thank you for having me.
00:36It's been a while.
00:38Thank you. It's been a while.
00:40We met on a music show or a quiz show before.
00:43Yes, we did.
00:45At that time, I was very impressed.
00:48When I was with you on the quiz show, we watched the VTR together.
00:55At that time, Ms. Tetsuko had a small notebook at her desk.
01:02I saw her taking notes while watching the VTR.
01:07I was really impressed.
01:11I took notes of the situation right after that.
01:15Do you always do that?
01:18No, I don't need to do anything.
01:21But there is a possibility that what I saw before will come out later.
01:27I thought it would be nice to write down things I didn't know.
01:32That's why I took notes.
01:34I see.
01:36It was a small notebook in the shape of a panda.
01:40I thought,
01:42Ms. Tetsuko, or Ms. Tetsuko Kuroayanagi,
01:46wouldn't become like this in a day.
01:49I was really impressed.
01:54When I was asked how I felt about Ms. Tetsuko,
01:57I told her about this episode.
02:00I'm sorry.
02:02I was really impressed.
02:04I also took notes.
02:09Your talk in the variety show was very popular.
02:14It was also featured in the Taiga drama.
02:19In Taiga, you play the author of the book,
02:22Makurano Soushi,
02:25Sei Shonagon.
02:28Yes.
02:30This is you, isn't it?
02:32Yes, it is.
02:34My face is a little thin.
02:37Many people don't notice it.
02:41But I'm really grateful to my parents.
02:46I'm glad I was born with a peaceful face.
02:49I thought so when I was assigned the role.
02:52It suits you.
02:54Thank you. I'm glad.
02:57I'm glad I didn't have to pierce my ears.
03:01I'm glad I didn't have to pierce my ears.
03:04I see.
03:06Ms. Tetsuko?
03:08I have piercings.
03:10Do you have piercings?
03:12I had piercings a long time ago.
03:14I also had piercings when I was in puberty.
03:17My mother also had piercings.
03:19I wanted to have piercings, too.
03:21Then my mother said,
03:23You want to be an actress, don't you?
03:25If you have piercings, you can't be in a period drama.
03:28I was surprised to hear that.
03:31I was surprised to hear that.
03:34It was about 15 or 20 years ago.
03:38I think many people can be in a period drama
03:42because of the latest technology,
03:45such as video processing and filling with putty.
03:48I think many people can be in a period drama
03:51because of the latest technology,
03:54such as video processing and filling with putty.
03:56I recognize the difference.
03:59The most important reason is that
04:01if the last two people left during the audition,
04:05Ms. Uika and Ms. A,
04:08if Ms. Uika and Ms. A left during the audition,
04:11my ears were full of holes,
04:14and Ms. A didn't leave any holes,
04:18so the person who needs money have many holes.
04:21So, it's for filling.
04:23So I thought there might be a higher risk of falling down.
04:29Wow.
04:30So I thought if I fell through the hole at the end, I would regret it.
04:37So I thought if I could eliminate even one risk, I wouldn't open it.
04:45I'm glad.
04:46I'm glad it led to that.
04:49That's right.
04:50Another thing I learned was that you taught me calligraphy.
04:55Yes.
04:56This time, it's a sacred calligraphy.
04:58There are scenes where I write the calligraphy on a pillow,
05:02so there was a lot of pressure.
05:05I taught calligraphy for about 10 years when I was a child.
05:11I was a very naive child.
05:15My parents encouraged me to do karate or piano.
05:25But I didn't want to do it, so I refused.
05:29However, I was told to do calligraphy,
05:33so I took it seriously for about 10 years.
05:37As a result, you were able to show off your calligraphy in the Taiga drama.
05:42You were able to show off your calligraphy in the Taiga drama.
05:47When I saw it, I thought it wasn't you.
05:52But no matter how I looked at it, it looked like you were drawing it.
05:59I was surprised to see that you were drawing it.
06:02I'm glad. I'm honored.
06:04I'm glad I did it.
06:07It's a calligraphy.
06:09After the broadcast, my mother was very impressed.
06:14She said,
06:16I'm glad you let me do calligraphy. Thank you.
06:20Then my mother said,
06:22It may be a good reputation, but don't be a tengu.
06:28I was always told not to be modest, not to be a tengu, and not to get carried away.
06:38And your maiden name is Uika, right?
06:42Yes, my maiden name is Shoka.
06:44I was born in June.
06:46Shoka.
06:47I was born in Shoka, so my parents changed my name to Uika.
06:56In my interpretation, I'm the eldest daughter.
07:01It's the first summer for my parents.
07:04I think it means the first summer when I became a parent.
07:09I think the name Uika is a wonderful gift that I am proud of.
07:16At first, I used the name Uika as my maiden name.
07:22But I noticed that I couldn't search for it on the Internet.
07:27I found Shoka's seasonal lunch box on the Internet.
07:32I thought it would be nice to have a different name.
07:35So I left Uika and started with Hachi.
07:39First.
07:41Summer in summer.
07:43It's actually early summer in Shoka.
07:47I thought it would be difficult for people to remember me if I made up words that I couldn't find on the Internet.
07:55But I didn't think it would be the same as people.
07:59You are from Osaka.
08:01Do you sometimes send souvenirs to your parents who live far away from you?
08:07Yes, I do.
08:09I don't keep in touch with them every day.
08:14For example, on my father's and mother's birthdays.
08:18For example, there is a famous delicious bread in Asakusa.
08:26I put it in a bag and sent it to my parents.
08:34I found out that there is a yogurt that Shohei Otani praised.
08:43I think it was a local yogurt.
08:47I said,
08:48I heard Otani is eating this.
08:51I sent it to my parents.
08:55It's not a small favor, but it's a big favor.
09:01You must be happy.
09:03Yes, I am.
09:04I said,
09:06Even though it was a small favor.
09:10Thank you for saying that.
09:16What kind of child were you when you were a child?
09:19I was a child who didn't change much since I was a child.
09:22I was a very conspicuous child.
09:25I was a child who didn't feel shy or timid.
09:28I was a child who went up to the stage on my own.
09:32I have a picture of me.
09:34This is a picture of me when I was in kindergarten.
09:38I'm playing the tambourine in the middle.
09:41I'm playing the tambourine in a very beautiful pose.
09:47My parents took a rude picture of me.
09:53But I put my hand on the face of the child next to me.
09:57It was really rude.
09:59It was like,
10:00Look at me.
10:02I'm sure the parent next to me really thought about it.
10:07That's right.
10:08I think so.
10:09That's how proud I was on stage.
10:13I was probably three years old.
10:15The child next to me came out in front of me.
10:19That's right.
10:20I was the most...
10:22Look at me.
10:23I thought,
10:24Look at me.
10:25I thought you left me a really terrible proof picture.
10:30That's how proud I was on stage.
10:34I don't remember, but I have a proof picture of me moving like this.
10:39That's how much I liked the stage.
10:42You started writing scripts since elementary school, didn't you?
10:46That's right.
10:47The stage is still the same.
10:51I'm going to the place where I got the offer.
10:55I thought I could build it myself.
10:59When I was in elementary school,
11:01I didn't ask anyone to do it, but I did it all.
11:07I was a very passionate child.
11:11I didn't ask anyone to do it, but I did it all.
11:15I changed Cinderella to a modern version.
11:19When I was in high school, I changed Romeo and Juliet.
11:23I played the role of a prostitute.
11:25Everyone wanted to open a store.
11:27I said, No, it's a play.
11:30I was really excited at the cultural festival.
11:33This is a beautiful woman and a beast.
11:35That's amazing.
11:36I'm going to play the role of Belle.
11:40I'm going to write the script.
11:43Would anyone like to play the role of a beast?
11:46I was a really passionate student.
11:49I see.
11:50Were you aiming to be an actor or a director?
11:54At that time, I really liked the stage.
12:01I wanted to be a person who could express something in front of people.
12:07After that, I played in a band.
12:09I went to a vocational school.
12:14I've always liked the stage.
12:18I see.
12:20The fastest way to get on stage is to join a theater group after high school.
12:26My mother said,
12:29You want to be an actor, don't you?
12:32You should join a theater group.
12:36I thought I'd give it a try, so I joined a theater group in Kansai when I was 18 years old.
12:42That's amazing.
12:43How did you end up playing the role?
12:46This is Omiya from Kanichi Omiya.
12:51You're doing something amazing.
12:54I played the role of Omiya.
12:56I was kicked off the stage.
12:59On the beach?
13:00Yes, on the beach.
13:02I remember practicing to take exactly the same pose as the statue.
13:08But if you want to get a better chance, you have to be 22 years old.
13:13Kansai Shogekijo was a big place, but the amount of work was not comparable to Tokyo.
13:21So I did a part-time job to save money.
13:28I lived in an apartment with no bathroom for 42,000 yen.
13:37After that, I auditioned a lot.
13:41In Tokyo?
13:42Yes, I auditioned in Tokyo.
13:44What did you get?
13:46I got a job at an idol group.
13:51I happened to be in an empty apartment.
13:56At that time, Twitter was very popular.
14:01There were a lot of applications.
14:04I heard that there was an audition for all the members of the idol group.
14:10I thought I didn't have to worry about being rejected by the documents.
14:14If you meet me, I'll do the same.
14:16I thought I could do it if I could talk.
14:20I didn't want to be an idol, but I wanted to be on stage.
14:28I thought it was a trial.
14:31I worked as an idol for about a year and a half.
14:36Did you get more work after you became an idol?
14:40Yes, I did music activities.
14:43After that, I was in a unit.
14:47After I finished being an idol, I focused on music.
14:51There was a time when I was a little worried.
14:53After that, I happened to have an audition for a variety show.
14:59After that, I made my talent debut.
15:03I appeared on TV alone right before the coronavirus in 2019.
15:10But everything was piled up.
15:15I didn't want to express it as a pile-up.
15:20I moved forward like a scroll.
15:24The moment I piled up like a scroll is always the peak.
15:30I always think I'm at the top, but I'm building it up step by step.
15:37I was moving forward.
15:39Is that your rule that you cherish?
15:43Yes.
15:44The most important thing I cherish is that I don't get lost.
15:50I think I'm often told that I have a heart that doesn't get lost or a belief that doesn't get lost.
15:57On the contrary, I was an idol, an actor, and I went to school and didn't go to school.
16:06It was a life that was easily reflected in the perfection and importance of that moment.
16:13It was like a driftwood.
16:16But maybe it was shaking.
16:19If you don't shake it, it'll break and you might break down.
16:29I've been able to do it without breaking down.
16:33It was a rubbery, wrinkly scene.
16:37I've had a lot of experiences with shaking.
16:42I thought it was okay to shake.
16:44I thought I could see a lot of worlds if I shook.
16:47I thought I could shake.
16:49But was it okay to shake?
16:51Yes, I'm still shaking.
16:53There are times when I'm worried about shaking, but I don't think it's a waste of time.
16:58I cherish shaking.
17:01Is there anyone in your family who has that personality?
17:07I don't know.
17:09My mother and father always said,
17:12Do what you want to do. Do what you like.
17:15It's your life.
17:17Instead, take responsibility for yourself.
17:21I was such a person that I was able to shake without caring.
17:25I'm sure you are.
17:27Yes, I am.
17:29But that's how you speak in Kansai dialect.
17:33It's funny.
17:35You speak in Kansai dialect as if you were speaking in Rakugo.
17:38I'm sorry.
17:40Do what you want to do.
17:42Do what you want to do.
17:44Do what you want to do.
17:46I heard your grandmother was in the entertainment business.
17:50I wasn't in the entertainment business.
17:54But when I was younger,
17:58I was in the NHK broadcasting company in Okayama.
18:04Now I'm 85 or 86 years old.
18:07I don't think the time has changed.
18:10I think it's almost the same.
18:12I was in the NHK broadcasting company in Tokyo.
18:16I can't talk about it now.
18:20I can't listen to the episodes at that time.
18:23But when I heard from my mother,
18:26I was in the broadcasting company as a model.
18:30That's your grandmother.
18:32Is that so?
18:34The uncle of your grandmother,
18:38who is a little far away,
18:42is Kensuke Ishizu.
18:45Is he a fashion designer?
18:47Yes, he is the father of Ivy Look.
18:49He was here, wasn't he?
18:51I think he was.
18:53I think it was about 30 years ago.
18:55Yes, he was.
18:57He is the uncle of your grandmother.
19:00Yes, so we are a little related.
19:05Basically, my family had many civil servants
19:11and many people who worked hard.
19:15My parents and my grandmother were bright people
19:20in the art and fashion industry.
19:24They supported me without hesitation.
19:28That's great.
19:30Yes, that's right.
19:35Do you have any complex?
19:40I have both positive and negative aspects.
19:45When I was a student,
19:49I could only get about 70 points.
19:53I was like a bonsai tree.
19:56If I could get 100 points,
19:58I would be proud of myself.
20:00I would say,
20:02I am this kind of person.
20:04Because I was so poor,
20:06no matter what I did,
20:08I could only get 70 points.
20:10I could get 9 points,
20:12but sometimes I got more than that.
20:14It's a complex.
20:17It's a weapon,
20:19but I can do anything.
20:21But in this industry,
20:23there are not many things
20:25that give you a lot of power.
20:28I sometimes worry about that.
20:30The moment when you think
20:32you can't be rewarded
20:34may be the moment
20:36you feel in your life.
20:38I often think that.
20:40I don't like the feeling
20:42of being rewarded.
20:44I always think that.
20:46If I can't be rewarded,
20:48I should be rewarded.
20:50I should be rewarded by myself.
20:54That's a great saying.
20:56I think I should be rewarded by myself.
20:59What I was born with
21:01or what I lack
21:03is fine,
21:05but I want to make efforts
21:07to make up for it
21:09at work or in private.
21:11Do you have any goals for the future?
21:14I haven't really said anything
21:16until now.
21:18I want to say this in front of Tetsuko.
21:21Tetsuko, I think you've been
21:23in a lot of shows.
21:25A lot of shows.
21:27I haven't done anything yet.
21:31Someday I want to be an actress
21:34who can write a masterpiece
21:37or who is worthy of it.
21:40I want to be an actress
21:42who can do things like this.
21:45I want to do my best
21:47to do things like this.
21:49I see.
21:54I don't want to be rewarded.
21:56I don't want to be rewarded.
21:58But if you say it,
22:00there may be people who will give you money.
22:02There may be people who will give me money.
22:04If you work hard,
22:06you may be rewarded someday.
22:08I want to do something
22:10that can make
22:12the cast happy.
22:14That's going to be
22:16one of the goals of this show.
22:18But for the next episode,
22:20I want to make it
22:22even better.
22:24I don't want my parents
22:26to be happy about it.
22:28So I want to take the prize
22:30and make them smile.
22:32I want to do my best
22:34to make that happen.
22:36I want a prize.
22:38Stop it!
22:39I want to be a person who can get a prize.
22:44But it's almost the same.
22:46It's the same meaning.
22:47But that's how it is.
22:49I'll do my best.
22:50Is that so?
22:51Yes.
22:52Please take good care of your parents.
22:54Yes, thank you.
22:56This is also a very big parent-child relationship.
22:59Is that so? That's good.
23:02I hope you will continue to be successful.
23:04I'll do my best to make you proud.
23:06Good luck.
23:08Thank you very much.

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