PTI Islamabad Jalsa - Heated Debate Between Kashif Abbasi And PMLN Leader
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00:00This is a political right of any Jamaat.
00:02I'm sure when you were in the opposition for three and a half years,
00:06you must have felt bad that when Maryam Bibi wanted to go somewhere, she didn't let her go.
00:10Do you remember? She started with Mandi Bawudin.
00:12Sir, I was with her everywhere.
00:14Yes, you must remember.
00:15That was another time.
00:17I don't know why, but governments become like this when they come to power.
00:20They fill the ground with water and close the Jalsa Gah.
00:23They don't allow Jalsas.
00:25But you have to do the same.
00:30Laws and regulations are of no importance in this country.
00:35Laws are important, that's why we have to do these things.
00:38Bismillahir Rahmanir Rahim.
00:39Firstly, thank you for having me on the show.
00:41Look, this is a comparison between apples and pears.
00:44From a purely political perspective,
00:46I will come to your second point as well,
00:48but just allow me a couple of sentences.
00:50From a purely political perspective,
00:53Imran Khan and his Jalsas are not a national issue.
00:57There are bigger national issues.
00:59So I would much rather be talking about other things.
01:01From a political perspective,
01:03because we heard this before Chhoti Eid as well,
01:06after Chhoti Eid, there will be only one person in the country.
01:09Chhoti Eid was over.
01:10Then before Badi Eid, there will be another claim.
01:12Badi Eid was over.
01:13After that, there was a hunger strike in Sukkad.
01:16There was a queue outside the parliament,
01:18which was usually empty.
01:19And there was a hunger strike.
01:21Sir, the diet plan was more.
01:23Sir, it would start after lunch and end before dinner.
01:25And there were usually three people in that as well.
01:27And all of your channels came there and did packages.
01:30But that's beside the point.
01:31It is their right.
01:33It is their right.
01:34It is your responsibility to give them an environment
01:36in which they can do their political activities.
01:39This is a bunch of trash that you have done.
01:42No, no, Abbasi Sahib, I will tell you what is a bunch of trash.
01:44A bunch of trash is...
01:45I will tell you what it is.
01:46I will tell you what it is.
01:47The order of today's meeting...
01:49Sir, the way you give an opportunity to Sardar Sahib,
01:51uninterruptedly,
01:52give me an opportunity to talk to you.
01:54I am just telling you that what you have done,
01:56this happened in today's meeting.
01:58I will show you.
01:59Yesterday, Tariq Hussain Chaudhary
02:00almost said that
02:01we will not let them hold the Jalsa.
02:03This meeting took place today.
02:04And in that meeting,
02:05all the arguments were made
02:09that what reasons can be given
02:11that we will not let the Jalsa take place.
02:12Listen to what Tariq Sahib said.
02:15My job is to protect the rights
02:17of the 25 lakh residents of Islamabad.
02:20Will the Jalsa take place or not, Sardar Sahib?
02:22Their job is to make a special place,
02:23to make a noise
02:24that there will be no mischief.
02:25All those scenes will not be seen again in Islamabad
02:28in which the PGI people are driving cars,
02:30beating the police.
02:31There will be no guarantee of this.
02:33The mischief they did in Islamabad before this,
02:35they did it wrong.
02:36You do this.
02:37Our high court wall will not be broken.
02:38Our criminal court wall will not be broken.
02:40Break the gate.
02:42Sardar Sahib, you tell me,
02:44there are riots in the UK on 31st July, 1st August.
02:47If tomorrow the same group comes and requests,
02:50we have to protest the whole month.
02:52Would that sound logical to you?
02:54He said this yesterday.
02:55I have answered him.
02:57You should not have let Muslim League Noon
02:59enter the Supreme Court.
03:00No, no, listen.
03:01Because you said there.
03:02Whether there were crimes or not on 9th May.
03:04There were crimes.
03:05Listen.
03:06What do the states do?
03:07No, no, listen to me.
03:08Listen, I am answering you.
03:10Sir, you have asked me more questions than me.
03:12Sir, I have asked you questions.
03:13Answer me.
03:14Did people attack Capitol Hill?
03:18Capitol Hill?
03:19America, you must remember.
03:20People were arrested.
03:21Trials are going on.
03:22Punishments are being made.
03:23Punishments have been made.
03:24Have been made.
03:25It is a good question for the judiciary.
03:26Trump is holding his own rallies.
03:27No, no, sir.
03:28What are you saying?
03:29Trump is not holding his own rallies?
03:30Sir, listen to me.
03:31Now you look at the UK.
03:33Sir, you have to go to the UK.
03:34America's issue is not for you.
03:35Sir, I wish I was in PTI.
03:38Sir, no, no.
03:39Sir, right is a right and wrong is wrong.
03:42I have the right to speak on your show uninterrupted.
03:45Interrupted.
03:46No one has a guarantee.
03:47No, no, sir.
03:48Sir, then I will do Zataj Gulberg.
03:50Then you will be satisfied.
03:51You will be satisfied.
03:52I will.
03:53You are talking inside the law.
03:54No, sir.
03:55Sir, allow me to speak.
03:56I will shut you down.
03:57Sir, you did not hear me.
03:58But if there is a certain agenda and there is a certain line that you are not liking.
04:01I would not like a line which is against the constitution of Pakistan.
04:05the constitution of Pakistan, that they have a right to assembly, you do not have the right
04:08to judge me, you do not have the right to judge me, sir you have not even allowed me
04:13to speak, if you have come to just speak at me rather than hear me out, then if you need
04:17a PM and then guest just to bash, then that's your choice, sir I am not bashing, I am saying
04:21that, sir you did not give me a chance, there is one Jamaat who did destruction on 9th May,
04:26there is one person Imran Khan who gave a call, he has admitted, there is one person
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