" Yeh Nahi Ho Sakta Ke Islamabad, Pindi Ke Logon Ki Security Par Samjhota Kya Jaye," Daniyal
" Yeh Nahi Ho Sakta Ke Islamabad, Pindi Ke Logon Ki Security Par Samjhota Kya Jaye," Daniyal
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00:00Daniyal Chaudhary sir, thank you very much for your time.
00:03What happened all of a sudden today?
00:05Permission was given.
00:06Islamabad High Court also gave permission on the basis of the statement of the Advocate General.
00:11Everything was fine till yesterday.
00:12They are saying that they have met the people of the administration.
00:15Just 24-48 hours ago, they were saying that everything is okay.
00:18Today, there was a hearing.
00:19Today itself, there was a recommendation in the hearing that the Jalsa should not be held tomorrow.
00:22Today itself, it was cancelled.
00:24Today itself, 144 people were arrested in Punjab.
00:26What happened all of a sudden today, Mr. Daniyal?
00:29In the name of God, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.
00:30Mr. Waseem, thank you for having me on the show.
00:33He is my brother. He is a lawyer.
00:35But I was very happy today when he was talking about his fundamental rights.
00:41Which rights was he talking about?
00:43The rights that he breaks in the parliament when there is a session?
00:47Or was he talking about the rights that he was talking about for his disobedience?
00:51He talked about his disobedience and set fire to it.
00:54He is a victim of his own arrogance.
00:57The government had decided on a few very categorical things.
01:03The first thing was the location of the Jalsa.
01:07They decided on the location.
01:09I will give you an example from Lahore, Karachi.
01:12For example, if you go to the Gaul Mandi,
01:14if 50 people are standing, it becomes a Jalsa.
01:17By the way, he is saying that this location was decided by the administration.
01:21Location, Mr. Waseem Badami, has always been his preference.
01:25Even if there are 500 people there,
01:27they should not be embarrassed and say that it was a gathering of lakhs.
01:31Secondly, he talked about the fundamental rights.
01:33Mr. Shoaib Shaheen is saying that this is the location and date that the administration gave him.
01:37Mr. Waseem Badami, our fundamental rights are on those people
01:41who live in Islamabad and Rawalpindi.
01:44It is not possible that a group or a mob compromises their security.
01:50It is not possible that a group, a mob, or a group with the mentality of burning houses
01:54come and sit there and then destroy their fundamental rights.
01:58Our role as a government is to protect the fundamental rights of those people who live there.
02:04The voters there, the people who live there,
02:07and at the same time, the safety, security, and performance measures.
02:10But they are not coming to protest, they are coming for the Jalsa.
02:13Mr. Waseem Shaheen is fighting the elections in Islamabad.
02:15Addressing all those things that are security concerns.
02:19Along with all these things, the decision of the government is in front of you.
02:24And this decision is more than the government.
02:27It is of all those stakeholders who are law enforcing agencies
02:31and who give security clearance and say that
02:35at this time, your event is risk-free or not.
02:39So the government...
02:40So why was permission given earlier, Mr. Daniyal?
02:43Why was permission given earlier?
02:46We are still ready to give permission.
02:49On what condition?
02:50We have no issue.
02:51On what condition?
02:52Not on any condition.
02:53We have always given permission to this mob.
02:56We are ready to give it in the future as well.
02:58But the thing is that when certain things do not fall into place,
03:03especially security measures,
03:05they have also been doing this.
03:07This is not a new thing.
03:08Whenever there have been security concerns, such things have happened.
03:11And wherever they are coming from in KPK, they can hold a meeting there.
03:14Here they have held a meeting and seen their meetings.
03:16If they did it in Islamabad, then 200 people.
03:18If they did it in Pindi, then 400 people.
03:20If they did it somewhere, then 600.
03:21So you are saying, Mr. Daniyal, if I understand correctly,
03:23that we have no issue with giving permission.
03:25The situation is not like that right now.
03:27We are giving permission because of security reasons.
03:28Otherwise, we have no issue.
03:29Because of these security concerns, your team is also present.
03:32We cannot do anything that would sabotage the national security of the country.
03:37When a team is coming to your country,
03:39we cannot take all these things at stake again.
03:42Mr. Shoaib, when you were in opposition and they did not give permission,
03:51you used to say that the government cannot manage the security of a Jalsa.
03:55What kind of a government is this?
03:59So we are saying that our duty is to protect the locals
04:07and people living in the vicinity.
04:09We are not saying that we will not give permission to the Jalsa.
04:12Our greatest security and safety lies with the people who live there,
04:16who are residents there,
04:17and who are directly linked to everything that happens there.
04:22The location that you are talking about is the entry and exit point.
04:26If there are 500 people standing there, then the whole city is shocked.
04:30And especially when such security concerns come with it,
04:33then it is not possible to eliminate any threats.
04:37Keeping all these things in mind,
04:40the security agencies that give you security clearance,
04:46they have decided that it is not possible for them to conduct a Jalsa tomorrow.