"Aj Ka Jalsa Na Honay Say Public view Main PTI ko Dhachka Laga Hai...."Fahad Hussain Analysis
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"Aj Ka Jalsa Na Honay Say Public view Main PTI ko Dhachka Laga Hai...."Fahad Hussain Analysis
"Aj Ka Jalsa Na Honay Say Public view Main PTI ko Dhachka Laga Hai...."Fahad Hussain Analysis
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00:00How do we decide which statement is correct and which is propaganda?
00:12How do we first of all look at it?
00:14Look, I think no one has access to this.
00:17This is clear.
00:18So whatever is coming...
00:21We don't have it.
00:22Someone has it.
00:23Yes, I mean, journalists don't have it.
00:25So either whatever is coming is being released with some logic
00:35or people are suppressing it.
00:37Thirdly, there is nothing.
00:39So I think whatever is coming, we have to think about it.
00:44Does it make sense or not?
00:46At best, you can create this sense that
00:49if these things are coming out knowingly, then why are they coming?
00:52And what is the reason for it?
00:54And how should people's opinion-making go in the current environment?
01:01This is what I can see.
01:02And that link is what you were talking about earlier.
01:05That there is a sense that there is more strictness.
01:09And after Faiz Hamid's arrest, there will be an increase in that strictness.
01:13And if fresh information comes out through it
01:17and it comes to the public,
01:19then it will be 100% clear as to where things are going.
01:22Yesterday, I asked a question.
01:25Mr. Tariq Gul did not answer it.
01:27I am sure you will not answer it either.
01:28For a long time, you have been denied NOC.
01:31But you have called off the Jalsa immediately after being denied it.
01:36Yesterday, it was a unanimous decision.
01:38When you said, if it is not there, it will be there.
01:41And the unanimous factor that has changed in the last few days
01:44is that General Faiz was arrested.
01:46Outsiders' view.
01:48What is the change because of which Mr. Tariq Gul has come to fight?
01:51Before this, you were avoiding fighting with Punjab and Islamabad.
01:54One factor is this.
01:56Public sentiment.
01:57No political party can be unaware of the sentiment of its workers.
02:02You have seen today that this is the sentiment of the worker.
02:05You go out, you do the Jalsa, you do the show.
02:07As Mr. Fahad said, show strength.
02:09This is your point on which you have to show your strength.
02:13So it cannot be negated.
02:15As I told you before, this has become a catch-22 situation for PTI leadership.
02:20On the one hand, there is a lot of public sentiment.
02:23After the statement of Ms. Alima Khanam, there will definitely be an increase in it, not a decrease.
02:28So that too the party will have to bear.
02:30And then obviously there are direct instructions from the chairman as well.
02:32So the party will have to walk between the two.
02:34Jalsa on the 8th.
02:36This is my personal opinion.
02:38And this is also my request to the government.
02:40That they should give NOC and make the Jalsa happen.
02:42When is Lahore?
02:43There is no Jalsa in Lahore as well.
02:45There was no date in Lahore as well.
02:46Earlier it was this.
02:47After this, there would have been a date in Lahore.
02:48This Jalsa would have taken place.
02:49Will Lahore come first or Islamabad?
02:51First we will fight with Maryam Nawaz.
02:53First we will fight with Shahbaz Sharif.
02:54Our fight is not with anyone.
02:55What are you doing?
02:56We say that...
02:57It seems that the world is against you.
02:58What are you saying?
02:59It seems that the world is against us.
03:01But despite that, we say that this is our basic democratic right.
03:05Which we should let exercise.
03:07Just like other parties do, let us do the same.
03:09We have told them that we guarantee that there will be complete peace.
03:12And the people who used to say that PTI only talks and does not do anything.
03:16In my opinion, they should be silenced from this step.
03:19That PTI has given the proof of being responsible.
03:24And they did not take this into their own hands.
03:26So...
03:27Wow, what a spin.
03:28That's a good spin.
03:29I like it.
03:30I don't agree with it, but I like it.
03:31You don't agree with it?
03:32If they had not picked up Mr. Khan at night and had not agreed with him.
03:36Then there would have been a fight on the streets.
03:38Let's be honest.
03:39It could have happened on 8th September in Islamabad.
03:41This is happening again.
03:42But it didn't happen.
03:43The point is...
03:44And we are ruined.
03:45That's proven.
03:46We have shown restraint on 25th May.
03:49We have shown restraint even today.
03:51So...
03:52Now I am telling you...
03:53Because I was talking to you earlier.
03:55It has become a non-legal statement that PTI is...
03:58A terrorist group.
03:59It is a terrorist group.
04:00They set fire to government buildings.
04:02Yesterday, Bilal...
04:03That should end now.
04:04What?
04:05No, I am saying...
04:06Look...
04:07In my opinion, PTI...
04:09What is visible today...
04:11It is a very big political shock.
04:14Now, instead of that...
04:16Behind closed doors...
04:18If there has been a give and take in Adiala Jail...
04:20With which Pakistan will benefit tomorrow...
04:23We don't know.
04:24It could be so.
04:25It could be that what Mr. Fawad is saying is correct.
04:27A big confession has been found on 5th July.
04:29But...
04:30It will come when it comes.
04:31Today...
04:32In public view...
04:34In public opinion...
04:35PTI has been shocked.
04:37Its leadership is...
04:38It is under fire.
04:39And its rank...
04:40Has Imran Khan been shocked?
04:41Or has Mr. Imran Khan been shocked?
04:43No.
04:44Imran Khan can't be shocked.
04:45Then PTI can't be shocked.
04:46No.
04:47Don't say leadership.
04:49Till that time...
04:50They were all seat warmers.
04:52Imran Khan's decision making...
04:54Can never be challenged in PTI.
04:56But party as a whole...
04:58If today there was a mobilization...
05:00It would have happened.
05:01And there would have been a big uproar.
05:03Then the party would have benefited.
05:04That will not happen now.
05:06But my personal view is...
05:08Like you said, I agree...
05:09Nothing is fixed.
05:10Nothing can happen to them.
05:12And that is justice.
05:14I am sorry...
05:15Minus Imran Khan...
05:16There is no justice.
05:17We completely agree.
05:21Today when...
05:22Azam Swati was doing a press conference...
05:24After the press conference...
05:25He said...
05:26If I am left out...
05:27I told my brother...
05:28If I am left out...
05:29You tell Mr. Gauhar...
05:30He said...
05:31Enough.
05:32He didn't want to say anything.
05:34Such a big platform...
05:35Politicians don't give you a chance to speak.
05:37Talking to the press...
05:39When you are the news maker.
05:40He said...
05:41Whatever you said...
05:42But how serious...
05:43You also said...
05:44General Faiz can become a serious issue...
05:46For justice.
05:48He can become serious...
05:49Only to the extent of 9th May.
05:52Rest...
05:53If he was advising...
05:54Under the Army Act...
05:56It is their fault.
05:57You can't say anything to justice.
05:59And if you want to link 9th May...
06:01For that...
06:02Linkages and proofs...
06:03Should be very strong.
06:05Do you think that 9th May...
06:06First question...
06:07Is 9th May and General Faiz linked?
06:09It is impossible for me to say.
06:11But...
06:13The way...
06:15We are being given a sense...
06:17That matters are going there.
06:19Now...
06:20Obviously...
06:21Everyone is giving their opinion.
06:23Opinion...
06:24Is not necessarily based on facts.
06:26But...
06:27The very fact that...
06:28Arresting a person like him...
06:31Court-martialing him...
06:34And...
06:35Announcing publicly...
06:37It has happened before...
06:38It happens in silence.
06:39What is the purpose of that?
06:40And to do that now...
06:41Now...
06:42A larger conflict is going on in the country.
06:44In the context of that conflict...
06:46If you read this...
06:48Then...
06:49Faiz Hamid's arrest...
06:50Is directly linked...
06:51With Pakistan's justice policy.
06:53I am just saying this as a clarification.
06:55But what is this?
06:56It can be said that...
06:57His arrest is directly linked...
06:59To make him understand...
07:01But with his not understanding.
07:03If he had understood 3 months ago...
07:05Or 6 months ago...
07:06Then he could have...
07:07Interacted with him in a different way.
07:08Ended his contacts.
07:09Because this came in between.
07:10Many people were told...
07:12That he didn't understand.
07:14If he had understood...
07:15Then it wouldn't have been 9 months.
07:17Then there wouldn't have been any other issue.
07:18Is that also another way of putting it?
07:20In my opinion...
07:22I am reading it in a larger context.
07:24Faiz Hamid...
07:25As an individual...
07:26Whatever he was doing...
07:27He was doing it.
07:28But...
07:29The larger political context...
07:31Which is so complicated...
07:32Which is a conflict in Pakistan's politics...
07:35Within that...
07:36His connection...
07:37That is why...
07:38This issue is blowing up so much.
07:40And if that conflict...
07:42And his connection...
07:43Is not proved...
07:44If that linkage is not connected...
07:45Then why did all this happen?
07:46Then they would have done it silently.
07:48That is why I feel...
07:49That ultimately...
07:50This thing will connect somewhere.
07:53Now how will it connect?
07:54We don't know.
07:55Now this is the tricky bit.
07:56How do you connect it?
07:58Because if...
07:59And if the connection is such...
08:01That everyone feels...
08:02It makes sense.
08:03It has to be transparent.