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Maulana Fazal Ur Rehman PTI Kay Sath Chalne ko Razi Kiyu Nahi...? Amir Ilyas Rana's Statement
Maulana Fazal Ur Rehman PTI Kay Sath Chalne ko Razi Kiyu Nahi...? Amir Ilyas Rana's Statement
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00:00But Mr. Rana, what happened to Mr. Maulana?
00:03I mean, PTI's protest would have caused a lot of trouble
00:07if there had been a protest like this.
00:08There would have been a press conference where Mr. Maulana would have been present,
00:11Mr. Hafiz would have been present, the members of the Jamaat-e-Istabi,
00:13the PTI people would have been present, and they would have said,
00:14we will have a joint meeting.
00:16But they didn't even have a clue, they just refused.
00:19Although they are also against the government,
00:21they are also against the system,
00:22but they are not willing to go along with the media.
00:24Why?
00:25I think the PTI has been forced to move away from the past.
00:32Mr. Achak Zahid, his translator told me today,
00:36when he went to the meeting himself,
00:39that he kept calling the PTI leadership in the morning when he got the news,
00:43but no one picked up his phone.
00:46He didn't express his anger like this.
00:47The leadership must have called someone and said,
00:49brother, tell us what is happening?
00:50Because Mr. Shoaib Shaheen was live on a TV channel and said,
00:53I don't know, it's fake news.
00:54He said, it was my request in the High Court.
00:56It was my request in the High Court for the Jalsa.
00:58He did it without asking me.
00:59So, Maulana Fazl-ur-Rehman's reputation was saved.
01:01With the people who are in the mud,
01:04Maulana Fazl-ur-Rehman was saying that
01:06I have had a lot of experience in the past,
01:08so I will not go to any union like this.
01:10I mean, it was used again today,
01:13that we are very powerful and we will make decisions as we please.
01:16The second thing is that we are all looking for this question,
01:19so tomorrow afternoon, we will listen to Imran Khan's speech,
01:23because tomorrow is the case of 190 million pounds,
01:25and the journalists will directly ask him,
01:27did you get any secret from him?
01:29How were you ready to meet him in the morning?
01:33What did you feed your guests,
01:35who were not allowed to come?
01:37These things will come, right?
01:38So, what was the force on which Mr. Khan took this decision?
01:42And the whole party is telling him that
01:44of course, no one can make a decision except for Mr. Khan.
01:47But I will say again that when Mr. Khan has made this decision,
01:51then make a political decision for the whole party,
01:53nothing will happen to his vote bank.
01:55What the army is saying,
01:57and the army has not moved back from that on May 7th,
02:00that you have to apologize on May 9th,
02:02and you have to ask with a sincere heart,
02:04and then you can talk about the next thing.
02:06So, the law that you and I are looking for,
02:09it is written in front of you and me,
02:11Punjabi's Da, English's Di,
02:13wherever it is, bring it there.
02:15This is the only red on PTI,
02:17and this is the only red on this country.
02:19The state has openly said that you have to do this work.
02:23You are not doing it.
02:24You are not getting permission for the Jalsa.
02:26And until we don't do it, the Jalsa will not happen.
02:29It will not happen.
02:30PTI will not be able to do street power.
02:32This is how it has to be done.
02:33Mr. Mazhar, I agree,
02:35everything comes around on May 9th.
02:37Because that too, the friends of PTI,
02:39who come to our program and say,
02:40or what Mr. Athar was also saying,
02:41that let them do it, let them do it.
02:43So, the answer comes from there,
02:44what the people of Noon League also say,
02:46that one thing is connected to you,
02:48and that is on May 9th.
02:50The permission that has been cancelled yesterday,
02:52it is written in it,
02:53that your problem is that your track record shows
02:56that you are creating that commotion.
02:58Now, until PTI does not stop from May 9th,
03:00it is not clear to you that the matter is not going to be right.
03:03This is not being said, nor is it coming out.
03:05PTI will have to do this on one side,
03:06otherwise they will be stuck.
03:09Look, Waseem, when you asked Athar in the beginning,
03:13what was there in the protest and the Long March?
03:16If you look at it,
03:18when Imran Khan himself gave the first Long March call,
03:21then after that he had his own statement,
03:23that as much as there was expectation,
03:25so many people did not come.
03:26Then when he gave the call for the second protest,
03:28then he called it a protest,
03:30and said that people should bring their equipment.
03:33But then it was called off in one night.
03:36Then he said that we will give arrests.
03:39That fizzled out in two days.
03:41This is what I am saying that
03:43I do not see the political strategy of Tehreek-e-Insaf anywhere.
03:47And this is why they are suffering.
03:50One thing is their distrust,
03:54that is, of other Jamaats.
03:56You see that they have been united with the Jamaat-e-Islami from 2008 to 2013.
04:01But the Jamaat-e-Islami is reluctant to go into unity with them.
04:06Although they had a hard love and hate relationship with the JUI,
04:11but they had a very good relationship with the Jamaat-e-Islami.
04:15Despite that, why is the Jamaat-e-Islami not ready to go into movement with Tehreek-e-Insaf?
04:21This is the time to think about Tehreek-e-Insaf.
04:24And because of this lack of policy,
04:26don't you see the conditions of PTI changing in the next 6-8 months?
04:31Look, Waseem, I have been saying this for the last 3-4 days.
04:36What and how will be the drop scene of 9th May?
04:40This will determine the future political dynamics of Tehreek-e-Insaf.
04:45This will determine what will be the future political discourse of Pakistan.
04:50So we will have to wait for the drop scene of 9th May,
04:53whether it comes in favor of someone or against someone.
04:56But only after that will you see the political dynamics of Pakistan changing.
05:03Mr. Kazmi, I don't think anyone will disagree with what Mr. Madar is saying.
05:06Now let's talk about the probabilities.
05:08Is there no chance that the drop scene will come in favor of PTI or against PTI?
05:15Mr. Kazmi, do you think there is not much chance of this in today's history or not?
05:20Look, there is a very bad drop scene in the courts.
05:25Today, Alia Hamza Malik, who had been in jail for 13 months,
05:31has been acquitted by the Gujranwala court in the case of 9th May.
05:34Two witnesses, Deputy Speaker of the Punjab Assembly, Mr. Abasi,
05:40and his other MPA, Mr. Tanveer Bhatt,
05:43who were said to have given a statement of 164 and became the witnesses,
05:47today they have submitted a request to the court,
05:49and have submitted a statement that we have not said anything like this,
05:52and Mr. Imran Khan has not said anything like this.
05:54So, if that drop scene had happened within 2-3 months,
05:59within 4 months, then it could have happened at that time.
06:01Now, I don't think there will be anything like this,
06:04when so many cases have been filed in the courts,
06:06their people have also got bail,
06:08some kind of evidence has failed to be presented by the government,
06:11no evidence has been given,
06:13no conviction has been made, meaningless conviction,
06:16within a year.
06:18So, now I don't think justice will go back on it.
06:21They have got a boost in a way,
06:23that they don't have any evidence against us,
06:25that's why they talk about CCTV footages again and again.
06:28So, I don't think that on 9th May,
06:31if a decision is made on it, then our politics will move forward.
06:34I think that like many other cases,
06:36this case will remain stuck in the middle,
06:38and things will either move forward or backward,
06:41but I don't see any final decision being made on it.
06:44Final word, Mr. Rana,
06:45do you think that 9th May will be fizzled out with time,
06:48or irrelevant, or less relevant,
06:50or will things move forward,
06:52or will this case reach a conclusion,
06:54and then that conclusion will determine
06:56how the case will proceed.
06:58The issue is that,
07:00we give examples of the UK and the US,
07:02where tweets have been punished for 10-16 years.
07:05Here, no one is asking about the video.
07:07I will take the name of Alia Hamza Malik and say,
07:10what statement did she make,
07:12that she crossed the red line and we have crossed the contourment.
07:15Right now, our court is looking for evidence,
07:17that's why it is coming from the bottom to the top,
07:1927 lakh cases are not being handled
07:21as if these are PTI cases.
07:23So, there will be a drop scene,
07:25there will be a climax,
07:26and it will happen with General Faiz Ameed.
07:28I feel that,
07:29and it won't go on for long.
07:31Okay.
07:32Because there is no Supreme Court stay on it.
07:35There, a retired general has been taken,
07:38retired army officers have been taken,
07:40which is going on in the military court,
07:42and the rest of it is a Supreme Court stay,
07:44on C90 people.
07:45Sometimes someone takes a stay,
07:46sometimes a decision is made,
07:47someone takes a stay on it.
07:48So, these things are going on,
07:50and our state, our politicians,
07:52everyone should be given the proof of responsibility
07:54to make a way.
07:56Because the people of Pakistan are trapped,
07:58and Pakistan is already trapped.
08:00And we have become a joke,
08:02that you will have to make a way.
08:04You have to make it in some or the other situation.
08:06Whether it is in the form of punishments,
08:07after that in the form of new leadership,
08:09or the current leadership.
08:10And you are saying that a way will come out,
08:11and it will have to be taken out soon.
08:12You have in the form of Mehmood Khan Achakzai,
08:15they have a big way,
08:17and they can talk to everyone.