Bilawal Bhutto meets PM Shehbaz Sharif | Saleem Mandviwalla Reveals Inside News
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Bilawal Bhutto meets PM Shehbaz Sharif | Saleem Mandviwalla Reveals Inside News
Bilawal Bhutto meets PM Shehbaz Sharif | Saleem Mandviwalla Reveals Inside News
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00:00Pakistan People's Party and PMLN are together, so the government has been established.
00:05If they are not there, then the government has not been established.
00:07I remember on the budget, you had a very clear statement that we are not going to pass this budget in any way.
00:12Pakistan People's Party does not agree.
00:14That was passed, matters went smoothly.
00:16Now another issue has developed.
00:18On one hand, Mariam Nawaz Sahiba, CM of Punjab, reduced the electricity bill by 14 rupees.
00:23Murad Ali Shah's statement came that Punjab, obviously you have heard that,
00:29Punjab is facing a threat on this step.
00:32Not just him, Murtaza Wahab's statement came.
00:35KPK's statement also came.
00:37Bilawal Bhutto Zardari met the Prime Minister.
00:40There were talks on 8 points.
00:42From those 8 points, it is also being heard that one point is that the electricity prices should be reduced,
00:48should be reduced in the entire Wafaaq.
00:50After the 18th amendment, does this demand of any province become true?
00:54That Wafaaq, you should also end our problems.
00:57There, the province is doing it, so you should also end our problems.
01:01Look, I think that the position that Punjab has taken,
01:06they have taken it according to their budget and their resources.
01:13And it is their decision, they want to give relief to their people.
01:17The federal government cannot give them relief.
01:20So they took this decision, for whatever reason, wrong or right, they took this decision.
01:26Now it is obvious that when Punjab is the highest population,
01:32the biggest in many ways economically,
01:37so its impact was on a very large population.
01:43Now it is obvious that the people who live in Sindh, KPK, Balochistan,
01:50they will also have this desire that whatever relief they got, we should also get it.
01:55Which is rightly so, it should be.
01:57Now the problem, the challenge is that when one province takes a decision
02:03and other provinces don't,
02:05then it obviously becomes a challenging situation for the other provinces.
02:11Does this not create a competition that is very healthy?
02:15Do a competition in the morning, which province is giving how much relief to its people,
02:19the rest of the province should also follow through with it.
02:21Look, you can definitely give that competition,
02:25but the fact is, like in Sindh, gas is produced,
02:30tomorrow Sindh will say that in my Sindh, I will give gas at a lower price, for example.
02:36So Sindh has an advantage because they have gas.
02:41KPK has an advantage because they have gas.
02:44And they will say that I want to give gas cheaply in Sindh.
02:48And you cannot give gas cheaply in other provinces.
02:54For example, you are not in a position to do that.
02:57So this will create a very disturbing situation in the country.
03:03So, Mr. Manmohan, should the 18th amendment be amended a little more in it?
03:08Or should it be changed or rolled up and thrown aside?
03:11No, I understand.
03:12Look, this is how I come to the petrol prices.
03:15Now we say that everywhere, like in America, in Europe,
03:21everywhere the price is different.
03:23City to city, state to state, the price is different.
03:28Now there is Texas.
03:30Texas has an advantage.
03:31Oil comes out of there.
03:33You can say that the refineries are there.
03:36Everything is there.
03:37They will say that I am.
03:39Now because their system is something else,
03:42everything is controlled by the state on its own.
03:46The federal government does not control.
03:48Your system has been like this from the beginning.
03:50Electricity price, gas price, fuel price,
03:53the federal government controls and announces.
03:57Either you change this thing as a policy.
04:01And you say that we deregulate it.
04:06Interesting, got your point.
04:07It is the will of the provinces.
04:09Whatever comes, keep the price.
04:11Whatever comes, sell it.
04:13It is a policy matter in my view.
04:15Okay, so it makes sense.
04:16Our system is confused, in other words.
04:18It makes sense.
04:19But Mr. Manjwal, in Punjab,
04:21the People's Party wants to make its space.
04:23It is a do or die situation for PMLN.
04:25They will restore their politics from Punjab at this time.
04:30Why will they let the Pakistan People's Party take its place?
04:33Look, this is the desire of every party.
04:37Their desire is to establish their party in Sindh.
04:40Our desire is to establish ourselves in Punjab.
04:43Wherever we are weak, in KPK, we should make ourselves strong.
04:47We should make ourselves strong in Balochistan.
04:51There is nothing wrong in this.
04:53If one party wants to excel in another province,
04:57where they are lacking,
04:59or they are not doing well,
05:01as they should be doing.
05:02So, I think, again, this is politics.
05:05And every party should try.
05:08Your point is right.
05:09Every party has a right.
05:10Wherever they go, they should advance their politics.
05:12But when there is a discussion within the government,
05:14that we are supporting you,
05:16you should give us this much space.
05:17So, is that politics?
05:18Or should we give it some other name?
05:20Look, I will tell you.
05:21In politics, you cannot say that this is right, this is wrong.
05:27In politics, it is politics.
05:30Man and party, everything,
05:33they can negotiate with the other party on any count that they want to.
05:39Got your point.
05:40To say that this is right or this is wrong,
05:44I think, this is up to them.
05:46So, politics works in grey areas.
05:49But Mr. Mahindra, last question.
05:51Not in grey areas.
05:52It works wherever you have to do politics.
05:56Makes sense.
05:57Last question.
05:58There was another point.
06:00Now, the sources are telling us.
06:02It is a legal reform.
06:04Basically, it is a legal reform.
06:06To increase the retirement age.
06:08Do you know,
06:09there was talk of increasing the retirement age of the judiciary.
06:12Has the People's Party of Pakistan talked to the Prime Minister about this?
06:17I am not privy to this.
06:21There has been a discussion on this.
06:23And there has been an agreement on this.
06:27I do not know anything about this.
06:30And I do not know that any such legislation is on the cards.
06:36In the People's Party, this is not being discussed with the leaders.
06:39Is that what you are saying?
06:41I am not aware of this.