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00:00First of all, we would like to ask Mr. Noor Alam,
00:04who is a representative of Maulana's party,
00:05what he has suggested in the bill, so that we can clarify this first.
00:08Then, in the meantime, if God willing, Mr. Dain-e-Sohai will join us and we will talk to him.
00:12Sir, thank you very much for giving us your time, Mr. Noor Alam Khan.
00:14Please, because the bill has a special language,
00:17and there are various considerations being made on it,
00:20please tell us in simple words, in one, two, three words,
00:24that the bill that you have proposed, what are the suggestions in it,
00:27so that it becomes clear, what is the matter and what is not.
00:30Please, tell us in one, two, three words.
00:32In the name of God, I am Wasim Badani.
00:35Thank you very much for giving me the opportunity.
00:37The thing is that I have collected five bills.
00:41One is Article 184-3,
00:45Clause 3, which is in relation to suo moto,
00:49because in that, when you take suo moto,
00:53in that, you take away the right from the other person,
00:59he cannot share any evidence,
01:02which you legally do in the civil judge or session judge or in the high court.
01:08So, he does not get those remedies,
01:10and straight away, you take suo moto and make a decision.
01:16So, in that, I, as a private member,
01:21you, nine judges, not three,
01:24nine judges of the Supreme Court,
01:26who are honourable judges,
01:28they can take it on suo moto,
01:32and if they make a decision,
01:34so in that, let's say, four or five judges have made a decision,
01:39so if in the review,
01:41if any person,
01:43if a person who has made a decision with the party,
01:49if he wants to go for a review,
01:51then within a month,
01:53the larger bench should be able to hear it.
01:56This is one thing.
01:57The second is the contempt of court.
02:00You will not find contempt of court anywhere in the world.
02:06Anywhere.
02:07If India is with you,
02:09if you go to America,
02:11if you go to the UK,
02:13wherever, all the Islamic countries,
02:17you will not find it anywhere,
02:18because you,
02:19I mean, you were not listened to,
02:22nothing happened,
02:24so this contempt of court is applied on that,
02:30and if you are a politician,
02:33a bureaucrat,
02:34an anchor person,
02:37a lawyer,
02:38any person,
02:40so it is applied on that,
02:42and he can go to jail under that.
02:46So in that respect,
02:48this law is a violation of human rights,
02:52and it has been abolished all over the world,
02:56so why not in Pakistan,
02:58and our honourable judges are very good,
03:00in my opinion.
03:02One more point is that the Dori Shariat,
03:04the law of contempt of court should be abolished.
03:06The third bill is for dual nationality.
03:12As you know,
03:14under Article 260,
03:16neither the President of Pakistan,
03:18nor the Prime Minister,
03:20nor the MNA,
03:22nor the Deputy Speaker,
03:24they do not come under the service structure.
03:26So they do not have the authority
03:28to handcuff someone,
03:30or make a decision,
03:32or do something,
03:34this does not apply to them.
03:36But what applies to them is that
03:38they cannot have dual nationality,
03:40that is, the second Dori Shariat.
03:42Think about it,
03:44the MNA, the MP,
03:46with whom he can raise his voice,
03:48he can legislate,
03:50he cannot be dual national.
03:54But where,
03:56with him,
03:58where he has the authority
04:00to handcuff someone,
04:02with him,
04:04where he has the authority
04:06to do business,
04:08with him,
04:10where he has the authority
04:12to use a gun,
04:14that is, judges, bureaucracy,
04:16and generals,
04:18there is no law in that
04:20that they are dual nationals.
04:22So they can be dual nationals.
04:24You are saying that the Dori Shariat
04:26should not be abolished.
04:28When you become dual nationals,
04:30when you get a second Shariat,
04:32because in Pakistan,
04:34you were born Pakistani,
04:36so when you become dual nationals,
04:38when you get a second Shariat,
04:40like the Taj-e-Badraniyya,
04:42you have decided that
04:44I am loyal to it,
04:46the Taj-e-Badraniyya,
04:48or America, or Canada,
04:50I will be loyal.
04:52So it means,
04:54and it is also said that
04:56if needed,
04:58or anyone can take it from you,
05:00that is why,
05:02those dual nationals,
05:04who have taken a passport,
05:06who have taken the national health
05:08there,
05:10they should not be in Pakistan's institutions,
05:12whether they are in the bureaucracy,
05:14whether they are in the police,
05:16whether they are in the judges,
05:18whether they are in the generals,
05:20whether they are in any institution,
05:22they should not head it.
05:24So this bill,
05:26I have collected it in this way.
05:28So you are saying,
05:30you have talked about Sumoto,
05:32you are saying that the law of
05:34insulting the court should be abolished,
05:36this is in your bill,
05:38anyone who has a dual Shariat,
05:40he should not become a judge
05:42in the bureaucracy,
05:44who has a dual nationality.
05:46What is your fourth and fifth point?
05:48There is another bill,
05:50which I have collected,
05:52which is
05:54Overseas Pakistan.
05:56Because you know,
05:58Pakistan's,
06:00whether you see it in the UAE,
06:02in Saudi Arabia,
06:04the Pakistani passport,
06:06who go to work,
06:08or stay there,
06:105-4 lakh people of Pakistan,
06:12with whom the nationality
06:14is not of any other country,
06:16those people,
06:18their representation is
06:20in the Provincial Assembly,
06:22and in the Senate.
06:24They should be given their rights.
06:26Because you,
06:28because these people
06:30send remittances to Pakistan,
06:32and unfortunately,
06:34when you go to Saudi Arabia,
06:36and there,
06:38you see their situation,
06:40there,
06:42for their passport,
06:44for their renewal,
06:46all their problems,
06:48and their problems,
06:50because we cannot
06:52do their representation,
06:54or their that,
06:56so this should be their representation
06:58in the Parliament.
07:00Like we have given minorities
07:02in the Senate,
07:04we have given minorities
07:06in the National Assembly,
07:08and in the Provincial Assembly,
07:10so these are our own Pakistanis,
07:12Overseas.
07:14Sir, you are saying that
07:16these people should also have
07:18their representation in the Parliament.
07:20Mr. Noor Alam, in your proposed bill,
07:22to increase the number of judges
07:24of the Supreme Court,
07:26or to change the retirement age
07:28of the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court,
07:30in any of your bills,
07:32is there no issue?
07:34No, I did not do anything.
07:36I just want that the judges
07:38of the High Court
07:40and the Supreme Court
07:42should not be dual national.
07:44They should be loyal to Pakistan.
07:46This is interesting,
07:48because I was thinking
07:50that in your bill,
07:52there is no mention of the number of judges.
07:54You are saying that there is nothing.
07:56I will share all these copies
07:58with you.
08:00I have submitted this,
08:02and I have submitted this in 2018 as well.
08:04And now I have done this again.
08:06Inshallah,
08:08and I am sure,
08:10by the grace of Allah,
08:12we will think about Pakistan
08:14and inshallah,
08:16inshallah,
08:18these bills will be passed
08:20and only the Pakistanis
08:22will decide for Pakistan.
08:24There will be no dual national,
08:26inshallah.
08:28Whether it is the decision of PANSI,
08:30or the decision of the operation,
08:32it will be made by the Pakistanis.
08:34Now you are saying
08:36that inshallah, it will be passed.
08:38For it to be passed,
08:40two-thirds is enough.
08:42The government is alone,
08:44and the opposition is alone.
08:46So how will it be passed?
08:48And when you talk about dual national,
08:50it seems that
08:52it will be directed to one judge.