Adult Star DANI DANIELS on life in PRN, the BEST Penis Size _ Dominating Men
Adult Star DANI DANIELS on life in PRN, the BEST Penis Size _ Dominating Men
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00:00:00It's Dani Daniels and her husband this time, world famous star, award winning.
00:00:11I'm the biggest slut of the industry.
00:00:14Anytime you date a guy, you're like, please don't have a terrible cock.
00:00:18Working with Dani, I was like, dude, you have a huge dick.
00:00:20He's like a Subway sandwich.
00:00:21If it's a big dick, I like to warm up before, like to get my pussy wet.
00:00:25Stretching before the marathon.
00:00:26Yeah.
00:00:27I was walking to the airport and my pussy was going like this because he had fucking
00:00:30blown it out for the last two hours.
00:00:31Guys will send me their tiny micro cocks and they want me to roast them.
00:00:35Like that's the best day ever.
00:00:36Is that hard?
00:00:37Okay.
00:00:38Why don't you send me a photo and you get it fully hard.
00:00:40There's like financial domination.
00:00:42Those are my other favorites.
00:00:43I love a man's wallet.
00:00:44Vic is always a person that I can go to and if I was like, I want to get gang banged by
00:00:51like 30 dudes, he's something that I could come to and not be ashamed, afraid.
00:00:55Let's just say that you did feel like that one day, Vic.
00:00:59How would you deal with that?
00:01:00Oh yeah.
00:01:01What would you do?
00:01:02A big thank you to Dani Daniel's shop who are sponsoring today's podcast.
00:01:07You can get a bit of everything on there if you're up for being on the naughty list this
00:01:11Christmas.
00:01:12This makes all of your other toy shops and you know, naughty shops look very boring.
00:01:17As you can see the lingerie, you know, if you fancy in a little bit of a nightgown vibe
00:01:21or if you just want to be a sexy zebra, we can't, we can't show that.
00:01:24It's mental.
00:01:25Now that, yeah, yeah.
00:01:26Fantastic.
00:01:27That is fantastic.
00:01:28Isn't it?
00:01:29The model doesn't come with it.
00:01:30I did check.
00:01:31This is a lovely little two piece.
00:01:33Danny is wearing here just with a real strict messaging.
00:01:36Just in case you weren't sure.
00:01:37I really feel like I shouldn't be allowed to show this, but I mean, it's not really
00:01:40anything.
00:01:41There's nothing wrong with this, is it?
00:01:42It's just someone with a massive O-ring in our mouth.
00:01:45Wow.
00:01:46Whips, paddles and ticklers.
00:01:47If you're into a bit of the old bondage, we've all tried it.
00:01:51This one could be the perfect Christmas gift for any of the women in your life.
00:01:55Probably not your grandmother or your mother.
00:01:56The F machine pro now it's this sort of action in it and it never gets tired.
00:02:02Really putting men out of business.
00:02:03I know some of you will be familiar with this sort of thing.
00:02:05Works like a charm.
00:02:06Well, it's a wand.
00:02:07Do you know what I mean?
00:02:08Cast a spell.
00:02:09Come all over.
00:02:10They've also got the remote control one so that you can like, you know, take your missus
00:02:13out for dinner or whatever and you'll be rushing her back into the taxi quickly because it's
00:02:16all going off.
00:02:17Benoit balls.
00:02:18I don't actually know what these are.
00:02:20I'm assuming he just shoved them up them.
00:02:21Oh wow.
00:02:22Some of this I just can't show you.
00:02:24Yeah, it's a bit too naughty.
00:02:25So I'm going to let you look.
00:02:26Click the link in the description below and go and check out Danny Daniel's website.
00:02:30Now it is fantastic.
00:02:32You can get something for everyone.
00:02:34Have a Merry Christmas.
00:02:35Fill the boots.
00:02:36Get as dirty as you want.
00:02:38Just be safe.
00:02:39Enjoy the podcast.
00:02:40Use my link.
00:02:41Click the link.
00:02:42Thanks.
00:02:43Cheers.
00:02:44The link.
00:02:45They're definitely fine.
00:02:46I've tested them.
00:02:47Welcome back to the True Geordie podcast.
00:02:48I'm joined by two lovely people today with familiar faces.
00:02:51We've had them on before.
00:02:53It's Danny Daniels and her husband this time.
00:02:56Victor Paula.
00:02:57Thanks for joining us guys.
00:02:59Thank you.
00:03:00I appreciate it.
00:03:01If anyone didn't see the last podcast, it did amazingly well with Danny world famous
00:03:06porn star.
00:03:07This point award winning.
00:03:08You actually won performer of the year.
00:03:10I was just looking into the history.
00:03:12You know you've done well when you get like the top girl of the industry.
00:03:15Yeah.
00:03:16I'm the biggest slut of the industry.
00:03:17Exactly.
00:03:18Cause that's a.
00:03:19Do you still have that trophy?
00:03:20Oh yeah.
00:03:21I have quite a few.
00:03:22I think I'm up to like over 20 at this point.
00:03:25Yeah.
00:03:26Like 20.
00:03:27Yeah.
00:03:28I have to like hide them when the in-laws come over.
00:03:29But I don't want to know I was that good.
00:03:32We throw a sheet over the trophy.
00:03:35Yeah.
00:03:36It was funny cause you got up and you gave your acceptance speech and I was like, what
00:03:39our porn acceptance speech awards like, and you were like, I didn't think I was going
00:03:43to win this cause I don't give up the booty hole.
00:03:46It was the worst.
00:03:48Like I never, I try to not ever drink when I'm doing events.
00:03:52And I was like, there's no way I'm going to win cause I don't give up the butt.
00:03:55So I was like, you know what?
00:03:56I'm going to have a whiskey, like whatever.
00:03:57And then I went and I was like, Oh, I think I went on stage and I was just like, yeah.
00:04:05Was your ego a little bit like, cause you're competing against a lot of pretty women.
00:04:10It's a big thing.
00:04:11Yeah.
00:04:12Yeah.
00:04:13And like I said, like I wasn't expecting it when I did.
00:04:14So I was, yeah, it took me a while.
00:04:17Like it probably didn't hit me until like five or 10 minutes later.
00:04:20I was like, Oh, Oh.
00:04:21And like it showed, I was like, Oh, okay, well I guess I'm really good at sucking dick.
00:04:25I mean, you can verify there's a nod there.
00:04:29Um, and yeah, for those who don't know, uh, you've done a lot of different types of porn.
00:04:36There was kink.
00:04:37There was all sorts of things you were talking on your videos about crying after orgasms
00:04:42on set.
00:04:43Wow.
00:04:44This is wild.
00:04:45I know.
00:04:46Yeah.
00:04:47And they would have to like check in with me, obviously like for legality reasons, they'd
00:04:49be like, you know, especially with kink, they would have to like go in and be like, okay,
00:04:52you were crying.
00:04:54Are you okay?
00:04:55You know, did you, did you, are you, where you have the safe for it?
00:04:57I was like, yeah, it was fine.
00:04:58I was just like living my best life, having like crying orgasms.
00:05:02Like anyone would, would enjoy, it's that would terrify me if a woman after sex starts
00:05:08crying.
00:05:09I'm like, Oh shit.
00:05:10What about during sex?
00:05:11You're like, Oh, okay.
00:05:12Can we get you a cup of tea?
00:05:13Is everything all right?
00:05:14Have you ever done that together?
00:05:15Is that something that's happened?
00:05:16Oh yeah, absolutely.
00:05:17Yeah.
00:05:18Yeah.
00:05:19So you're just like a crier.
00:05:20She's a happy crier.
00:05:21It sounds really horrible when you say it out loud, but yeah, like I am.
00:05:22I'm very like, I'll probably cry.
00:05:23Like I'm tearing up now.
00:05:24Like when I laugh or if I'm having a good time, I'm like a, like a, she's actually a
00:05:25happy crier, not a sad cry.
00:05:26Yeah.
00:05:27Yeah.
00:05:28Funny.
00:05:29Yeah.
00:05:30Yeah.
00:05:31Yeah.
00:05:32Yeah.
00:05:33Yeah.
00:05:34Yeah.
00:05:35Yeah.
00:05:36Yeah.
00:05:37Yeah.
00:05:38Yeah.
00:05:39Yeah.
00:05:40Yeah.
00:05:41Yeah.
00:05:42Yeah.
00:05:43Yeah.
00:05:44Yeah.
00:05:45Yeah.
00:05:46It's funny.
00:05:47Yeah.
00:05:48That's mad.
00:05:49Like even if I see like an emotional commercial, I'm just like, that's so sweet.
00:05:50Like, yeah.
00:05:51And like the, well the, the list went on and you pretty much like did a whole bunch of
00:05:52stuff before you met Vic specifically.
00:05:54Yeah.
00:05:55And I think one of the reasons I wanted to have Vic on this time is a to understand the
00:05:58dynamic of the relationship, but also now more than ever in society, people are talking
00:06:03about men who are with promiscuous women as they say, like in a, in a certain kind of
00:06:08way.
00:06:09And I just kind of want to explore this with you guys.
00:06:12Because from what I remember, you didn't meet in a, oh, he was a porn guy kind of way, you
00:06:18met in a normal way.
00:06:19Is that right?
00:06:20Yeah.
00:06:21We met at a baby shower.
00:06:22Yeah.
00:06:23Wow.
00:06:24It was so nice.
00:06:25So hot.
00:06:26Yeah.
00:06:27It was so nice.
00:06:28It's like the most innocent thing you could ever do.
00:06:29I mean, it was a porn star's baby shower, but it was a baby shower.
00:06:31Okay.
00:06:32Well, it's a little bit weird now.
00:06:33Yeah.
00:06:34Yeah.
00:06:35So was it like a love at first sight thing or just best friends at first sight?
00:06:39Yeah.
00:06:40We, I mean, there was, I think there was something there between the two of us, but neither one
00:06:43of us wanted to dive off that diving board right away until it just kind of kind of just
00:06:48happened.
00:06:49How did you know the porn star?
00:06:50I didn't.
00:06:51Oh, I didn't.
00:06:52I actually, the person that I was with somebody who I was representing at the time.
00:06:56And I, I knew who she was because of the person that I was with at the time, but I didn't
00:07:02really know her or the, I mean, I had kind of aged out.
00:07:06Yeah.
00:07:07I think I'm going through that.
00:07:08You kind of age out of it at some point, you know, it's like, eh, okay.
00:07:12You know.
00:07:13There's a statistic about that.
00:07:14Like hit 40.
00:07:15Yep.
00:07:16And I'm in like my mid thirties and I'm like, I barely watch it.
00:07:19What's going on?
00:07:20Yeah.
00:07:21Yeah.
00:07:22This has been like something I've done every day for 20 years and now I'm like, I can't
00:07:25remember the last time I watched it.
00:07:26Yeah.
00:07:27It's weird.
00:07:28It's weird.
00:07:29It's usually like between 40 and 45, it drops off like dramatically and that's like a norm.
00:07:33Why do you guys, do you think there's a reason for that or maybe it's like a combination
00:07:38of things.
00:07:39Maybe, um, you've seen it all.
00:07:41Maybe you've gotten to page 256, you're like, you know, or maybe, uh, you know, girls getting
00:07:47in at 18, 21, whatever it is.
00:07:50Maybe it seems too young.
00:07:51Um, there's like a bunch of different, the life kind of happens at that point, your forties,
00:07:57your career is going, you're probably married.
00:07:59Hopefully good.
00:08:00Yeah.
00:08:01Hopefully you're getting it good.
00:08:02Yeah.
00:08:03You shouldn't need as much.
00:08:04And then when you hit like 45, if you've had kids like I did where they were young, when
00:08:08you were young, you're like, okay, these are the same age as my kid.
00:08:11Okay.
00:08:12Well now I'm done.
00:08:13Now I am done.
00:08:14I think also too, it's like you as couples a lot, I feel like, like I've noticed like
00:08:19as people get older, fans get older, they start to watch it as a couple more.
00:08:23Yeah.
00:08:24So which I think is really cool and like couples experimenting is becoming, is becoming more
00:08:30and more normal.
00:08:31Like obviously a guy I was hanging out with the other day told me like he was freaking
00:08:35out though.
00:08:36He was like, I've just found out a couple, I know they swing us really like traumatized
00:08:42by it.
00:08:43I couldn't be doing that.
00:08:44Like, and at the same time that's never occurred to me, but I'm assuming it's pretty normal
00:08:49for you guys to know people who do that.
00:08:51Is that?
00:08:52Yeah.
00:08:53I mean, wide breath from utterly vanilla to over the top and the people who are over top
00:09:00tend not to be the adult film stars that we know.
00:09:03It's like the average person, you know, five doors down in Florida.
00:09:07That makes perfect sense.
00:09:08Cause he said they were a couple who hadn't experimented a lot, got together young.
00:09:13And then when they hit like, I don't know, mid thirties or like we have, we've missed
00:09:16out on a lot.
00:09:17Yeah.
00:09:18And then they felt like they wanted to do it as a team.
00:09:20I love that.
00:09:21I actually, I love like the open communication and talking about and being able to experiment
00:09:25together.
00:09:26Like I think that's something that is just so, so beautiful in its own way and knowing
00:09:29each other's limits.
00:09:30And just like, I don't know, I just, I feel like that's something that's more popular
00:09:34now than maybe, you know, 10, 20 years ago.
00:09:36And the fact that whereas maybe before, Oh, I want to do this and it will maybe lead to
00:09:40like cheating or leaving or, you know, divorce where now it's like, you know, I've never
00:09:44had a three way.
00:09:45Well, I've never been with a woman.
00:09:46What?
00:09:47You want to go find somebody at the bar?
00:09:48Like it is tricky as a man as well, though, like cause guys, I think women don't understand
00:09:54how sex is a chemical thing for us, but like I don't mean to trigger some women.
00:10:00But like women have chemical things happen to them every month that men have to sort
00:10:03of deal with sometimes and women don't understand like we're going through some chemical stuff
00:10:08as well.
00:10:09And our brain, when we're out on the street and we see a beautiful woman, it's not a choice
00:10:14to have that thought.
00:10:15It really is pre-programmed.
00:10:16I mean, it's why we're all here.
00:10:18Women do that too.
00:10:19Yeah, I'm sure.
00:10:20I'm sure.
00:10:21I just feel like men are less, uh, we're filling up every day sort of thing.
00:10:27We're also less subtle about it.
00:10:28Like women are smart enough to keep it quiet and we'll be like, damn, so you guys are at
00:10:35this little innocent, well, quite innocent party and you get talking, how quickly before
00:10:41you spoke about the fact that you're in the industry?
00:10:44Oh no, I knew, I knew she was in.
00:10:46So I, yeah, I had, I had known when we met that she was in the industry.
00:10:50Almost everybody in the room except me was in the industry.
00:10:52So, yeah, so, um, we actually became best friends for about a year and a half before
00:10:56we started dating.
00:10:57Yeah.
00:10:58Why do you think you'd had that period of best friends rather than going straight to
00:11:01relationship like a lot of people do?
00:11:03Um, well, I was in a relationship at the time.
00:11:06Yeah, so was I.
00:11:07And I don't.
00:11:08Awkward.
00:11:09No, no, it wasn't.
00:11:10It really wasn't.
00:11:11It doesn't.
00:11:12It sounds like it was, but it wasn't.
00:11:13I'm a publicist.
00:11:14I do PR for a living and I did a lot of art PR and my wife is a world renowned artist
00:11:21actually.
00:11:22I mean, beyond just the adult film stars, she's a, so she was showing me her artwork
00:11:25and I'm like, Jesus, this is awesome.
00:11:28Let me help you out with some of that.
00:11:29And that's, we kind of became friends over that.
00:11:31And then I had a bad breakup and she had a worse breakup.
00:11:35And then we bonded over the fact that we literally hate humans.
00:11:42And then it became, it was actually almost a good thing.
00:11:45It became a situation where we kind of realized we had this attraction to each other.
00:11:48And we're like, all right, here's all the crap.
00:11:50Yeah.
00:11:51You know, here it is.
00:11:52Here's all the problems.
00:11:53I'm not young anymore.
00:11:54This is what it is.
00:11:55And she went, well, yeah, well, here's all my crap.
00:11:57And we're like, Hey, our crap matches.
00:11:59It's like, this is what I want in a partner.
00:12:01This is what I want in bed.
00:12:02This is what I'm into.
00:12:03This is like my, like, you know what I want for the future.
00:12:06And we literally like sat together and like had like almost like a business transaction,
00:12:10but like in the best way.
00:12:11You're checking off the, that checks off a box.
00:12:13Yeah.
00:12:14I think it's because we were friends first for so long that like when it was so organic
00:12:18when it even happens.
00:12:19And I literally looked at him and I was like, I should just date you.
00:12:22And he's like, okay.
00:12:23And that's how we started dating.
00:12:26That's like really healthy though, isn't it?
00:12:28To get everything out in the open early.
00:12:29That's when people who are knowing each other, sorry, knowing themselves and therefore able
00:12:34to just put it all out there.
00:12:36And a lot of people, they waste time when you're younger, especially pretending to be
00:12:41the version of you that is.
00:12:42Yes.
00:12:43I said that to him.
00:12:44I was like, everyone has bullshit for the first six months.
00:12:46And then the real person.
00:12:47And then, yeah, they like, they like you wear this like fake facade, like even if you don't
00:12:51even know you're doing it.
00:12:52And then Mr. Hyde pops out six months later and you're like, where the hell is this guy?
00:12:57And that's why like in my own life, a few months later, you're like, who the fuck am
00:13:02I dating?
00:13:03But it's just the real them coming out.
00:13:06Oh, so you, oh yeah, you covered the bag of shit for a while.
00:13:09And it's like, oh, awesome.
00:13:10Thanks.
00:13:11I appreciate that.
00:13:12But then when you're having these moments where you're both in relationships and talking,
00:13:16do you think deep down you, there was more there, but you were just like kind of putting
00:13:20it on pause?
00:13:22I don't, you know what?
00:13:22Yeah, maybe.
00:13:24But we were, I mean, neither one of us were doing anything.
00:13:27I mean, most of our conversations were about her artwork literally at that point.
00:13:31And and it was I mean, it was only like three or four months before I had to break up.
00:13:36And then it was like a month later.
00:13:37And then we were friends for about a year.
00:13:40And she came to New York specifically to promote her artwork.
00:13:45And I was getting her meetings.
00:13:47And it just, you know, it was like at one point and we always talk about this one point
00:13:51in time, we both got a drink and we reached in kind of like, you know, like literally
00:13:56out of a movie, like our hands touched and we looked at each other and it was kind of
00:13:58like, oh, like literally, but it was like, oh, it's like the biggest fear, right?
00:14:03Like, you don't want to date your friend because then if it goes south, you lose a
00:14:06friend. Yeah.
00:14:06And it's like, so, but yeah, that's quite romantic.
00:14:09Yeah, it really was.
00:14:10It was cute and gushy and gross, you know, not what you expect from.
00:14:13I like it.
00:14:15And in a week, we're married six years.
00:14:16Yeah.
00:14:17Literally one week from today.
00:14:18Yeah.
00:14:19And in terms of the toxic breakups that you both went through, that you bonded over, if
00:14:24you don't mind me asking about this, how toxic are we talking?
00:14:26Like, what was those experiences like for you?
00:14:28Oh, God, awful.
00:14:29Like, yeah.
00:14:29Like God, awful.
00:14:31Yeah.
00:14:33And I, and I know I sent you my book, like in the front part of it, you're like, I
00:14:36started listing off just everything that I put up with.
00:14:40And, you know, I mean, it's, it's kind of like comfort's like a beanbag chair.
00:14:43It seems like it's really comfortable.
00:14:45And then you got to get up and you're like, oh, this sucks.
00:14:47And that's what happens is like, you just accept a little bit more shit, a little
00:14:50bit more shit, a little bit more shit.
00:14:52And now all of a sudden you're six months in and you're like, what the hell am I
00:14:55doing?
00:14:56And it's like, it literally hits nothing.
00:14:58There's nothing about this relationship.
00:15:00I like, I think both of our breakups were so bad that it put us in a mental state
00:15:04where we were like, fuck it.
00:15:06This is what I want.
00:15:07Like, I don't care if I sound shallow.
00:15:09Like, I don't care.
00:15:10Like, I want this, this and this.
00:15:12Like I was, I think we were both in that because I think if one of us was, and one
00:15:16of us wasn't, it wouldn't have worked.
00:15:18But because we both were just so bitter.
00:15:21And it was like, look, I want A, B and C, just don't give me shit.
00:15:25Can you be A, B and C?
00:15:27And if not, it's cool.
00:15:28But like, that's what I want in a relationship.
00:15:30And so, isn't it weird how sometimes you need to have like the worst possible
00:15:34experience in order to develop a zero tolerance policy?
00:15:38Yes, absolutely.
00:15:39Because I've definitely been there where after that one, I'm like, no way you're
00:15:43bringing me down.
00:15:44No, I'm not allowing anyone to do that again.
00:15:46Yeah, you're like, I just went through all of that.
00:15:48Yeah, I'm not even getting halfway through that bullshit.
00:15:51There also becomes a point in time when we did and we were friends and we had, I
00:15:55mean, she was living in California.
00:15:56I was in New York.
00:15:57So it wasn't like we were seeing each other and we were starting a relationship.
00:15:59The point in time where you have to get comfortable with yourself and you have to
00:16:02like, look, be able to look in the mirror and go, you know what?
00:16:05I have no problem being alone until the right person comes.
00:16:09If the right person comes, it might not, but if the right person, because then
00:16:12you're comfortable in your own skin and you're not just looking for that
00:16:15relationship because I need something that fulfills me.
00:16:17No, I'm fulfilling myself.
00:16:19And also, if you're alone, if you're alone, I feel like you've got hope at least.
00:16:23Like when you're stuck in that shit relationship, you've got nothing.
00:16:26Yeah.
00:16:27Yeah, when you're like settling for being that you're like, oh God, but I guess I
00:16:30can't do any better.
00:16:31You're like, if you're better off alone, just be alone.
00:16:34Like at that point, like my hand is great.
00:16:37Exactly.
00:16:40Wow.
00:16:41Um, and then obviously you're still in the porn industry at that point.
00:16:46Yeah.
00:16:47And how long after you and Vic became an item, did you calm that down?
00:16:52Because you're still in porn, but you stopped working with other male performers.
00:16:57Yeah, it's, it was pretty quick, but it didn't have anything to do with Vic.
00:17:01It was, it was honestly like this like perfect, like shit storm of life that I
00:17:06was going through at the time.
00:17:08And I was wanting to move to New York and shoot my own content and focus on my own
00:17:12brands.
00:17:13So it honestly like just, it was pretty quick on, but not, it wasn't like, oh, I'm
00:17:18so in love with this guy.
00:17:19I'm not going to take any other dick.
00:17:20It was just kind of like, oh, I'm, I just happened to be in this place where I've
00:17:24fucked everyone I've wanted to fuck.
00:17:26And like, I'm ready to like move on and move to the next chapter.
00:17:28And then he, it was, it's so funny how life works like that.
00:17:31Like, and then it was like, oh, I'm kind of ready to like, you know, do my own
00:17:34thing and move to New York and start my own businesses.
00:17:35And then he just like popped up like something I hadn't even thought of.
00:17:38And then.
00:17:39Yeah, it wasn't, I, there was no, we never had a conversation of, okay, you need to
00:17:43step out.
00:17:44She was stepping out.
00:17:45Yeah.
00:17:46We happened.
00:17:47It was like ancillary.
00:17:48It had literally nothing to do with each other.
00:17:50They were two different directions.
00:17:51She, she had told me months before that she was like, you know, I really kind of
00:17:55want to phase out of the industry.
00:17:58There's really nothing much more that I can do with it.
00:18:00Um, and I want to move on with my life and we never really, it was never a situation
00:18:05where it was like, okay, you're going to stop now.
00:18:07Or she was looking at me going, I'm going to stop now.
00:18:08It just happened.
00:18:10Yeah.
00:18:10I think a lot of fans think that too.
00:18:12And like what I want to point out is like a lot of fans, like when, cause obviously
00:18:16when you first date someone, you're not putting them on the internet.
00:18:18Right.
00:18:19And so I think when I started posting him, it happened to be along the same time that
00:18:22I stopped performing with other performers.
00:18:24So people were like, oh, you got with Vic and you stopped taking other days.
00:18:28Like, no, it just happened to work out that way.
00:18:30Did they give you grief for that?
00:18:32The funds?
00:18:32Cause you have dedicated funds.
00:18:34I did.
00:18:34I got a little bit at first, but in, in a way it kind of weeded out.
00:18:39Um, fans that just wanted to see me take as much like pussy and dick as possible,
00:18:44which is great.
00:18:45And I had that chapter in my life.
00:18:47Um, but it kind of brought in new fans.
00:18:49Like I have a huge amount of couples that watch my porn.
00:18:52Um, fans that just love to watch me be me.
00:18:55Like, cause because now it's like, I'm fucking at home.
00:18:58I'm on my couch.
00:18:59It's like, it's like real life, you know, people love that stuff.
00:19:02Yeah.
00:19:03And so it's kind of like, it kind of just like swung the pendulum in like a different
00:19:06way.
00:19:06But didn't you say that you have like a real cult following in India or something?
00:19:12Oh yeah.
00:19:12Cause I've seen you the weekend getting pictures with fans cause a lot of Indian do that.
00:19:17Yeah.
00:19:17So it was funny.
00:19:18I did.
00:19:18I actually did.
00:19:19Um, I had my products in a shop vibes, pleasure boutique.
00:19:23And, um, they're outside this out of London, outside of London, excuse me.
00:19:27And I had fans drive the, some fancy, they're like four hours.
00:19:33Another set of fans said six hours each way.
00:19:36I was like up near the Scottish border.
00:19:38They were coming down to Ellsworth or whatever.
00:19:40We, I mean, we were in the South and they were coming down and they're like, Oh, we
00:19:44just went through.
00:19:44And they were, I mean, they were all, they're always nice in seven years that we've been
00:19:49together.
00:19:49I can tell you we've had only one interaction with a fan that was annoying and it wasn't
00:19:54even like obnoxious.
00:19:55It was just annoying.
00:19:55Can you explain that?
00:19:56The guy was like half drunk and like, Oh, what's it like to fuck a porn star?
00:20:02And I'm like, well, it's something you'll never know.
00:20:04You know?
00:20:04Like every other time they've been really respectful.
00:20:07Hey, do you mind?
00:20:08And they always ask me, do you mind?
00:20:09Oh, nevermind.
00:20:10You know, we're really happy for the fans, but never give away his big old bald head
00:20:16in a bar and people see him and they go, could that be?
00:20:19And then they look and go, Oh yeah, he's quite a memorable geezer.
00:20:24But driving six hours to see you, right?
00:20:28Like I'm a YouTuber, I keep my clothes on, but even that would freak me out a little
00:20:32bit.
00:20:32It was, it was, I didn't know.
00:20:36I was speechless.
00:20:37I was just like six hours each way.
00:20:39Yeah.
00:20:39I was like, yeah, they were, it's a long drive.
00:20:43Yeah.
00:20:43It's like, it was really, it was honestly really flattering if anything, but I was just
00:20:47kind of like, I don't want to, I wouldn't drive six hours for anything.
00:20:51Do you know, do you know what my brain goes to?
00:20:53If you'll drive six hours for that, what else would you do?
00:21:00What would you do for the Klondike bar?
00:21:02Just trying to get us out of here.
00:21:05So how do you watch Danny?
00:21:08I'm going to call you Danny.
00:21:10I know that's your daughter.
00:21:16So how do you watch Danny's porn videos now?
00:21:18Never.
00:21:19Why?
00:21:19I have it live even now, even now, especially now, because I have it live.
00:21:24Why do I need this?
00:21:25Watch it on video.
00:21:26Um, I think that would really surprise people though.
00:21:29Like when I, like, I think I heard you say that in a interview.
00:21:33I remember thinking, wow.
00:21:34Cause like if, if I was friends with a porn star and then if I'm dating a porn star, like
00:21:40just let's put this scenario together, it's that like curiosity more than anything.
00:21:45It's not even like, it's not even necessarily a dirty thought.
00:21:49I've got to see what's been going on.
00:21:51What scenes does she like to do?
00:21:52I mean, don't get me wrong.
00:21:54I have lovely people who send me photos on a regular basis and I'm, and I always laugh.
00:21:59It's like, do you think I didn't know this?
00:22:01Exhibit with it?
00:22:03Yeah.
00:22:04Yeah.
00:22:04DM, DM.
00:22:05They're like, Oh, look at your wife.
00:22:06And I'm like, yeah, okay, great.
00:22:08Congratulations.
00:22:09You found the photo that's, you know, on Twitter.
00:22:11I'm thrilled for you.
00:22:13But I, I, I find them in this very weird position because we do have a lot of friends
00:22:17in the industry and they've become very close friends.
00:22:19And some of them are, they're like family.
00:22:22So most guys would love to see their wife's hot friends naked.
00:22:26I can't not see it.
00:22:27And it's horrifying.
00:22:28It's like, yeah, it's like, you know, aesthetically beautiful and emotionally
00:22:32crippling at the same time.
00:22:33Yeah.
00:22:34So you're a really interesting, I say this respectfully, you're quite a lovely guy,
00:22:40but equally, uh, different, right?
00:22:45I just can't imagine anyone I know being able to take that approach, just the, the,
00:22:50the curiosity, but also then the other things.
00:22:53And you obviously don't think like most men, because I think most men, it couldn't
00:22:57be with a porn star, but also they couldn't even date a porn star without wanting to
00:23:01see everything.
00:23:04I remember this brings me back to, I don't know why I'm talking about this, but a mate
00:23:07of mine had some old videos of him with his previous girl on his like computer or
00:23:13whatever, like home movies, a whole bunch of them, like 30 and his new girl who was
00:23:18like, he was having a kid with Noah founder.
00:23:21Oh, and I said to him, like, what did she do?
00:23:25Like, did she take your approach or just, you know, I don't need to say this.
00:23:28This was before me.
00:23:29No, she watched every single second because she had to know I'm going to fuck him
00:23:34better.
00:23:35And that's what women are.
00:23:36So like, I think that's a woman thing to be fair, but you must have some quite a bit
00:23:41of mental strength there to just block that out and just be like, you know, it's not
00:23:45even that I block it out.
00:23:45I just don't care.
00:23:47I literally don't care.
00:23:48I don't know.
00:23:48Right.
00:23:49I mean, I wish I could tell you that I had a reason.
00:23:50I just don't care.
00:23:52It's like, okay.
00:23:52And people, I mean, I've heard this in a bunch of times and I'm like, look, Kieran Lee, who
00:23:57was on your podcast, right?
00:23:59Had his dick insured for a million dollars.
00:24:01She had him.
00:24:02She chose me.
00:24:04I'm fine.
00:24:06I'm fine.
00:24:07I mean, I just realized I've actually seen your dick before.
00:24:11Yeah, because I followed, I followed down to your trailer and I'm like, there's my mate's
00:24:15dick.
00:24:17I mean, that, that, now that's a little on the odd side, but there's nothing wrong with
00:24:21it.
00:24:22You're right.
00:24:22That's the key is you were like, it's weird.
00:24:24I'm like, yes.
00:24:24Cause like, it's like all my, my close friends in the industry that come and stay at our
00:24:28house and stuff.
00:24:29It's a different dynamic.
00:24:30I think people think that like off camera, we're all just like laying around in lingerie,
00:24:34having pillow fights and it's not, it's just, it's a job like anything else.
00:24:37So for him, it's like, you know, seeing like Sheree DeVille naked, who's like one of my
00:24:42best friends.
00:24:42And she's like, I mean, look, Sheree's like a sister to me.
00:24:45Oh, yeah, she's.
00:24:47And I'm like, I can't like open up Twitter and I'm like, because I usually, I think the
00:24:53thing I love about Vic is that he doesn't care.
00:24:55And I think people assume that if you're in porn, you can't date what we call civilians
00:25:01because they are jealous.
00:25:04They'll ask you to quit the industry or they'll just like, fuck you for the story.
00:25:08And that's the common, is that the norm?
00:25:09The norm.
00:25:10Yeah.
00:25:10It's like, I'm not sure, you know, oh, it's either going to be somebody that wants to
00:25:13fuck me for the story that thinks they can handle it and then can't.
00:25:17That hears it from their friends.
00:25:19Like, oh, you know, your wife's a porn star or your girlfriend's a porn star.
00:25:23It's like, and then they can't, they think they can mentally take it and they can't.
00:25:26So when you start to date, so once I, when I was with Vic, I was like, oh, he actually
00:25:31doesn't give a fuck.
00:25:32Like, it's so freeing to not have to be worried or stressed or constantly just like, oh, my
00:25:37God is, you know, if Johnny since comes up, comes up to us at a convention, is he going
00:25:42to be like, kind of, you know, straightened up, you know, but it's like, it's not like
00:25:46that at all.
00:25:46Like Kieran's a perfect example.
00:25:47We've had drinks together and stuff and laughed our asses off.
00:25:50So it's super comfortable in your, in your masculinity.
00:25:53Yeah, I've dated porn stars.
00:25:55I've fucked porn stars.
00:25:56I've dated civilians.
00:25:57Like I chose him.
00:25:58Like he's the person I want to be with.
00:25:59Like I've obviously fucked enough to know what I want in bed.
00:26:02And so it's like, and you, obviously your age could have helped with this because you're
00:26:08at a point where you're a bit wiser.
00:26:10You're not in a, you're not in that early years masculinity where you have to prove
00:26:13yourself to everyone.
00:26:14You've proven what you need to prove, but you've now also got involved.
00:26:18As I've said, how did that feel?
00:26:20The first time you're like, there's my dicks going to be on the internet.
00:26:25You want to laugh?
00:26:25I didn't care.
00:26:26I was the one that was like, she was all, she was all worried about it.
00:26:30And I'm like, look, this is, this is what you do.
00:26:33I, you know, this is what we're going to be.
00:26:35Then let's just do it and move on.
00:26:37I'm bizarrely, and I don't know why I never grew up jealous in my life.
00:26:41I have a, I have two brothers who are younger than me and no one can ever tell you that
00:26:45my, especially my middle brother, cause we're four years apart.
00:26:48We never had a fight ever.
00:26:49There was not one member of our family cause I didn't care.
00:26:52Like he would win trophies.
00:26:53I would be proud of him.
00:26:54Like he became a doctor.
00:26:55I was proud of him.
00:26:56I didn't, I never got that.
00:26:57I've never had that jealous feeling over anything.
00:26:59Even business partners would tell me like, if, if they went into the refrigerator and
00:27:03ate it, ate something I wanted, I'd be like, Oh good.
00:27:05Did you like it?
00:27:05I just, I'm not that person.
00:27:07I don't know why.
00:27:08I don't know where it's at.
00:27:09When I've reached out to you and just said, cause you're a business man.
00:27:11I'm asking you things.
00:27:13You're very generous.
00:27:13Very given.
00:27:14Yeah.
00:27:15So you could verify that.
00:27:19But no, like you said, you were worried about him.
00:27:21Yeah.
00:27:21I was the one that was stressed out about it.
00:27:22Like it actually took quite a while to be like, okay.
00:27:25Like I would be like, are you sure?
00:27:26I was like, he's like, let's just shoot content.
00:27:28Like, who cares?
00:27:28Let's just shoot content.
00:27:29Just use my dick.
00:27:30Like, it's fine.
00:27:31And I was like, and I, I was the one, yeah.
00:27:35I mean, if you think about it now, it's like guaranteed sex twice a week.
00:27:38Like, Oh yeah.
00:27:38No, honey, I'm here for you.
00:27:40I got you.
00:27:40It's no problem.
00:27:42I'll be here.
00:27:44Yeah.
00:27:44But I was the one that it took me like quite a few weeks to be like, okay.
00:27:47Like, is this something that, you know, I, I, I felt responsible, you know, because
00:27:53this wasn't like he, him being like,
00:27:54Oh, he wouldn't have done this without you.
00:27:55Yeah.
00:27:56And I didn't want to like, I wanted to make sure that it was something that you
00:27:59were okay with, because I've talked about this before, but like porn is a life
00:28:02sentence.
00:28:03Like, it's not something that you do once.
00:28:05And then it's just like, the internet is always forever.
00:28:08So I really wanted to make sure, but as you can see,
00:28:12And you marry in, you know, I mean, look, I, I, and I, and I get it.
00:28:15And I like even age and what you got to know what you're getting into.
00:28:19You got to know.
00:28:19I mean, I'm, I'm, I'm marrying not just an adult film star, a person who's been in
00:28:24the top 25 for a decade.
00:28:25I mean, we don't go anywhere that she isn't noticed.
00:28:28We got stopped at the Vatican for a photo.
00:28:31And that's a true story.
00:28:32I mean, like we got stopped.
00:28:33We can't go anywhere without her being noticed.
00:28:35So I know what I'm signing up.
00:28:38You have kids though.
00:28:39So, so was, was there a worry that you were like, like from your side, like, Oh
00:28:43my God, like are they adults?
00:28:45They're adults.
00:28:45Yeah.
00:28:46I don't have kids.
00:28:47I have adults.
00:28:47Yeah.
00:28:48But even, even then, um, was that a conversation that you had or did you just
00:28:52do it?
00:28:53That was, no, that was a conversation her and I had about it.
00:28:55Like, you know, your kids have to be okay with it.
00:28:57My kids didn't care.
00:28:58I mean, honestly, I described that conversation.
00:29:01I'm going to need to know.
00:29:02So bizarrely, it was, don't give too much of it.
00:29:06Cause I'm very proud.
00:29:06I'm like, I'm very protective.
00:29:08Like, so there's a running joke story that when she came to New York the first
00:29:14time, both my kids were there.
00:29:17I have a son and a daughter.
00:29:17Both my kids were there and they were looking at the two of us and privately,
00:29:21they had a bet when we were going to start dating.
00:29:24They just saw it.
00:29:25They know, they just knew.
00:29:27And my daughter won and she'll appreciate that.
00:29:29We can watch this podcast and she won the bet.
00:29:31And my son still owes her the money.
00:29:32So she'll even appreciate that too.
00:29:34But yeah, but they, they, and like her and my daughter are very close and my, my
00:29:37son and I are very close and it just, you know, they were smart enough to realize
00:29:43dad's happy and happy dad makes for a good dad.
00:29:46So, um, they're so liberal, right?
00:29:49Yeah.
00:29:49They would, they would chill about it.
00:29:51And I mean, you know, everybody in the beginning was, you know, you're sure this
00:29:55is going to, and then everyone that I came across on your side of our relationship,
00:29:59they all said, like, we just, we just love seeing Vic happy.
00:30:02Yeah.
00:30:02Like we don't care.
00:30:03Like no one, I mean, it was very few people, like very few people in anything
00:30:08would, was, were, no judging comments.
00:30:10No, I mean like, we had, we had our share of them, but they were from the outside,
00:30:14not from like good close friends, people that would judge me for doing porn anyway.
00:30:18You know?
00:30:18So I'm like, okay, moving on, you know?
00:30:20And I mean, I thought it was shock and awe.
00:30:22Like the first six months of the relationship, um, people were looking at it
00:30:26going, and then testament to my wife, she made everybody comfortable.
00:30:31Everybody's like, oh my God, she's awesome.
00:30:33She's great.
00:30:34Look at how happy Vic is.
00:30:35It's not, you know, it's not what we, it's not what we were expecting it to be,
00:30:39which is always the answer we get with this as you move forward.
00:30:42Your energy from following you guys for years now is, it is very close.
00:30:48It isn't like, you know, I guess people, if they look from the outside in, they'd
00:30:52look at your relationship and think, oh, he's a sugar daddy or something.
00:30:54That was a big one in the beginning.
00:30:56Yeah.
00:30:56A lot of people thought I left the industry to be with the sugar daddy.
00:30:59And I was like, I just like old guys.
00:31:02Like, just let me live my old guy life.
00:31:03Like, and I can also, I can also, I can also understand the fact that like, you
00:31:09know, if you were to say, I'm fucking a porn star, my girlfriend's a porn star.
00:31:13Everyone is instantly going to think the same thing.
00:31:16Oh, that'll be over in a month.
00:31:17Like, you know, oh, you know, it's just like going to be like a fun little thing
00:31:20that like, you know, so I think once we got together for an extended period of
00:31:24time, and especially now that we've been married for almost six years, people are
00:31:27like, oh yeah.
00:31:28Like, yeah, you're not Anna Nicole Smith.
00:31:29Yeah.
00:31:30Yeah.
00:31:31People, for those who don't remember, that was a really famous woman who went out
00:31:35with a 90 year old.
00:31:36Yeah.
00:31:36Yeah.
00:31:36Very different.
00:31:36Yeah.
00:31:37Yes.
00:31:39Yeah.
00:31:39I think they, they think they were together like six months and he died.
00:31:41Oh, she was just with him for his AARP card.
00:31:45She wanted a free cooler from AARP.
00:31:47As it happened, when I was doing my research, apparently when you met, you
00:31:50were involved in this Charlie Sheen thing.
00:31:53Yeah, that was, that was, that was kind of how we met.
00:31:55The person that I was representing was one of Charlie's exes and the whole shit
00:32:01hit the fan.
00:32:01Okay.
00:32:02So, so can we talk a little bit about that?
00:32:03Cause that's quite a fascinating story in the industry, right?
00:32:06So Charlie, Charlie was very, and Ricky Gervaisian joked about this, like if that
00:32:10was a Monday, then what was his New Year's Eve?
00:32:12Like he was like hanging out with porn stars and all the drugs.
00:32:15And then obviously HIV hits.
00:32:18Was that right?
00:32:18Yeah.
00:32:19He was HIV positive.
00:32:20Yeah.
00:32:20He, I guess he was, he was HIV positive for a while and had hit it for a while.
00:32:24And I was representing somebody who at the time, um, she, he had hit it from,
00:32:29and they were together and they had gotten engaged.
00:32:31I mean, this whole, this whole relationship is because of Charlie.
00:32:35Wow.
00:32:37Wow.
00:32:37It's the only successful relationship he's been involved in.
00:32:40Maybe, you know, Charlie, Charlie and I are about almost like almost a year apart.
00:32:44He's like a year.
00:32:45It was a really big problem in the industry because you know, when you have
00:32:49men and women going out and you know, like, wait, well, when we got together,
00:32:53like I made him get tested before we fucked.
00:32:55And a lot of people don't do that.
00:32:57And a lot of people go out and they bring in like diseases into the industry.
00:33:02And then we have all these like breakouts and then the
00:33:04industry has to shut down.
00:33:05So he was like a massive problem, but it's like,
00:33:09What was it like for those women who were infected by him?
00:33:12Do you think?
00:33:13I don't, I don't know a lot of them very closely, so I can't speak on their behalf.
00:33:17And I'm not sure that there's ever been really a case of somebody who's been
00:33:20infected by him.
00:33:21I think I'm really don't know that for a fact.
00:33:24Um, but it was something that was kind of like hush, hush and hidden.
00:33:28And it was, it was a little, I mean, this whole thing is odd
00:33:31because when you're fucking, you know, five to 15 people a week and you hear
00:33:36about this and you're like, you hold your breath.
00:33:39They're like, as I've always been very responsible in the industry, I've always
00:33:41gotten tested.
00:33:42I've always made the people that I was fucking on the side get tested.
00:33:45So to be, you know, to hear something, Oh, there's going to be that whole scandal
00:33:50happened.
00:33:50I was like, here we go.
00:33:51Like, Oh, my test doesn't come up.
00:33:53I'm hoping I don't have to kill somebody.
00:33:55You know, it's bizarre because I know my age, my generation getting tested was
00:34:00not a big thing.
00:34:01Cause I lived through, wasn't HIV.
00:34:03It was AIDS.
00:34:04You got it.
00:34:04You died, period.
00:34:05That was it.
00:34:06You know, I was in school when that was like really scary.
00:34:09Yeah.
00:34:10So getting tested was something you either did or you got, you know, you were,
00:34:13you were taking your life in your head.
00:34:14So when she asked me to get tested, I was like, yeah, no problem.
00:34:16And she was like, really?
00:34:16I'm like, yeah, it's like, I grew up with that.
00:34:19I grew up with that.
00:34:20Yeah.
00:34:20And I do know that I, and I've had this conversation with kids and family and
00:34:25friends, you know, like, Oh, I don't want to get tested.
00:34:26I'm like, are you out of your mind?
00:34:29I mean, get tested.
00:34:30You out of it.
00:34:30I don't want to know.
00:34:31You don't want to know.
00:34:32Yeah.
00:34:32Oh, I don't have any symptoms.
00:34:34What's like, that's insane.
00:34:37Get tested.
00:34:37Be safe.
00:34:38I mean, that's just, that's key.
00:34:40Yeah.
00:34:40And just knowing your status and like, especially if you're at, you know, you
00:34:43have a partner, partner is like, why not?
00:34:45No.
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00:35:48And in terms of marriage, like marriage is traditional.
00:35:51Yeah.
00:35:51And obviously you don't come from a traditional working background and you'd
00:35:56already been and had a family.
00:35:58So why did you guys think marriage fit you?
00:36:02Well, that's a really good question.
00:36:03Um, I, you know, it's funny.
00:36:05I think when we first got together, we weren't sure we were going to get married.
00:36:09We were just going to, and then it just seemed right.
00:36:11It just seemed correct.
00:36:13You know, it was like one of those things where I was like, we really wanted to do
00:36:15this.
00:36:16And it's not like the piece of paper means anything, but the ceremony does.
00:36:20And having your family there means something and having our friends and the
00:36:24people that we care about meant something.
00:36:25The piece of paper is just piece of paper.
00:36:27It doesn't really.
00:36:27Yeah.
00:36:27It wasn't even like a second thought of if I should marry this person.
00:36:31It was just like, wow.
00:36:32Like even when we got together, I'm like, this is the person I'm going to spend the
00:36:34rest of my life with.
00:36:34Like it was like an instantaneous, like, did I just like knew.
00:36:38And you didn't have to get married though.
00:36:40Like a lot.
00:36:41So it wasn't that ceremony and the vows and wanting to commit to each other so that
00:36:46you have that feeling of security there.
00:36:49I don't even know if it was a feeling of security.
00:36:51It's more like a feeling of love that we wanted to share with our friends and family
00:36:54members and have everybody there and have her family there, my family there.
00:36:58And it wound up being, it was, I mean, it was a beautiful weekend and it meant more.
00:37:02Like I said, the piece of paper is just piece of paper.
00:37:04Yeah.
00:37:04Like, even if it wasn't like binding us together, I still would have done it just
00:37:07like a celebratory of like our love.
00:37:10Not to get all mushy.
00:37:11No, I mean, it was, no, it's because, because when I was contemplating your
00:37:16dynamic, I was like, you know, you don't need marriage, you know, but you obviously
00:37:21felt the need for it in a, in a, in a sense.
00:37:23And it's especially with you, Donny, because you're just, you, you dance the
00:37:27own tune and I've found that from meeting you, you'd like, you do everything your
00:37:31own way.
00:37:32And I just wondered what it was about it.
00:37:34Do you know what I mean?
00:37:35That makes sense.
00:37:36And in your head, when you took those vows, were you like, and it's definitely
00:37:41over for me shooting with other men in that moment, like maybe not in that very
00:37:45moment, but like around that time.
00:37:47No, it's, I think people associate marriage with like monogamy and even though we are
00:37:51monogamous and that's just something that works for us.
00:37:53Like Vic is always a person that I can go to.
00:37:56And if like down the road, I was like, I don't know.
00:37:59I want to get gang banged by like 30 dudes.
00:38:02Like I think he's something that I can come to and not be ashamed, afraid.
00:38:06Like we can always have an open and honest conversation and getting together and
00:38:11getting engaged, getting married.
00:38:13Like that didn't even, it didn't even cross my mind that anything in the
00:38:17relationship would change.
00:38:18Let's just say that you did feel like that one day, Vic, how would you deal with that?
00:38:23Oh yeah, what would you do?
00:38:25There would definitely be a conversation there.
00:38:26We would have that there is, you know, it's like, we've had this conversation a
00:38:29bunch of times going into it.
00:38:31Like, did you want to go back to an industry?
00:38:33And most of the time it ends like this.
00:38:36Yeah.
00:38:36I know what it's like to bang other people.
00:38:38I, it's never going to be the same as being with you.
00:38:41Why do I want to ruin what we have?
00:38:44Because it's like the plate, you throw it on the ground, you break it.
00:38:46You can't put it back together.
00:38:46You can glue it back together, but it's still got cracks.
00:38:48Yeah.
00:38:49So that's, so that's always, it's like, if you have, if you're in a monogamous
00:38:54relationship and you want to be monogamous, the moment you break that, you can't get
00:38:57that back.
00:38:57It's, it's not coming back.
00:38:59So we've had this conversation.
00:39:01It's like, why do I want to do this?
00:39:03Just for the sake of doing this.
00:39:05Cause that's all it is.
00:39:06You know, you, I mean, look, we're guys, we've been around the, we've been around
00:39:10the block a few times.
00:39:11You've had those times where you've banged somebody.
00:39:13And afterward you went, yeah, what did I do that for?
00:39:16You know, and women have the same thing.
00:39:18You're like, what did I do that?
00:39:19And you can't get back what you've lost by doing that.
00:39:22So same thing with us.
00:39:23It's like, we've had this conversation many times and she's even said it.
00:39:26She goes, and it was like, even if it's like, Oh, go back and do girl, girl.
00:39:29It's like, yeah, it's the same thing.
00:39:31I'm bi.
00:39:31Fuck so much.
00:39:32But I love, I love women.
00:39:33I'm bisexual.
00:39:34Like, but I've just fucked so much pussy that I'm like, I know what pussy's like.
00:39:38I've had plenty of it.
00:39:39That's, you know, I loved it.
00:39:40But the reason I'm asking you specifically this, cause I know people watching will,
00:39:45I'm interested in where the line is with you because you've obviously,
00:39:49you've been perfectly fine with their previous life in porn when you were active
00:39:54in that way.
00:39:55And you've not even felt the need to watch them, but it feels like you,
00:39:59the line is now moving forward.
00:40:01Okay.
00:40:01We're in this together now and that you do want that monogamy moving forward then.
00:40:06At this point.
00:40:07Yeah, I think we both have had this discussion and it's not even,
00:40:10it's not even that it would bother me if she went back in the industry.
00:40:13It was just something like, as we keep going further and further in,
00:40:17there's just something incredibly loving and sweet about it.
00:40:21And it's, I, I personally can't even imagine finding somebody else.
00:40:26I, at this point it's like, I looked at them and I go, yeah,
00:40:29that's a really attractive woman, but I'm not ruining this.
00:40:33I'm the one that's like, you want to fuck her?
00:40:35Yeah, right.
00:40:36She'll be like, you want to fuck her?
00:40:37And I'll literally go great.
00:40:40I was like, so I'll get into this.
00:40:41You'll have sex with a woman.
00:40:42It'll be like screwing a wet mop.
00:40:43And I'll be like, okay, now I've ruined this,
00:40:45this beautiful thing that we had for a horrible sexual experience.
00:40:48Wonderful.
00:40:49That just doesn't make sense.
00:40:51If it is, it would be,
00:40:53it's never going to have the same emotional connection.
00:40:55Yeah.
00:40:55That's just never going to be there.
00:40:56So it's, it's very interesting that that is quite precious to you.
00:41:00The, the keeping what you've built up.
00:41:03Yeah.
00:41:03Yeah.
00:41:04So it, cause at first, you know, people will expect you to just be super,
00:41:09I don't care about any of this.
00:41:10And there's, there's guys out there who are with porn stars who are just like,
00:41:13yeah, do what you want.
00:41:14I don't think like what our relationship is, is any, in any way.
00:41:18The right for everyone.
00:41:20I think it just works for us.
00:41:21Like for me, I did everything.
00:41:23I had all the sexual experiences, so I don't even feel a need, but I can also
00:41:28understand why couples that haven't experienced it would like to explore that
00:41:32together.
00:41:33The body count thing.
00:41:35Are you guys aware of your own body count?
00:41:36Oh God.
00:41:38No, I stopped counting at like 500.
00:41:41And mostly it's women.
00:41:42I put so many women.
00:41:44Yeah.
00:41:46I saw that.
00:41:47That's like the big trend now.
00:41:48Body count.
00:41:49It's interesting.
00:41:50Yeah.
00:41:50Because you know, and when you're Sicilian body count has a whole different.
00:41:54Oh yeah.
00:41:54Yeah.
00:41:54It's like, which body count are we talking about here?
00:41:59So, but it's, it's, I mean, I always laugh.
00:42:02It's like guys worry about girls' body counts, but guys can literally be like a
00:42:06horny dog on a street somewhere.
00:42:08Come on, give me a break.
00:42:09You know, it's got to go both ways.
00:42:11I mean, it really has to go both ways.
00:42:12You can't look at a woman and go, Oh my God, you've been with 20 people.
00:42:15You're, you're a horrible slut.
00:42:16Meanwhile, you've been with 60.
00:42:20Are you kidding me?
00:42:20I think logically that makes perfect sense, but for the, the vast majority of
00:42:25people, for whatever reason, you can correct us if you think I'm wrong, I just
00:42:29think men care more about feeling like, Oh, this woman is mine and hasn't been
00:42:34around that much, like men are very territorial or, you know, misogynistic.
00:42:39We'll go with that word too.
00:42:41I can understand that mentality, but my, I always, men have said that to me in the
00:42:45past, but my counter is always, wouldn't you want a woman to be with you and know
00:42:51that your dick, the way you fuck, the positions that you both like, the way,
00:42:54you know, wouldn't you want her to experience other dick?
00:42:57Because if you're the only dick she's ever fucked and she wakes up someday and
00:43:00goes, you know, I really want to put a 12 inch dick inside me just to see what it's
00:43:04like, then she cheats.
00:43:06So for me, and like, for me personally, it's like, I would rather my partner go
00:43:10out and experience everything.
00:43:11And then I would know and feel secure in our relationship.
00:43:14Cause I'm like, you did it all.
00:43:16You saw the menu, you tried every platter.
00:43:18I'm glad that you chose me, you know?
00:43:20So I always, and there's a part of me that always wonders too.
00:43:23And I did in my book, I wrote about guys realize that the only place that they're
00:43:29vulnerable is sex.
00:43:31Women can make them do anything with sex.
00:43:34A guy will go places with a, with a heart on.
00:43:36He wouldn't go with a loaded 45.
00:43:38I mean, I mean, I blow Vic to do Tik Toks with me, so it works out, right?
00:43:43So I think that men at heart, exactly.
00:43:47I think men at heart just want to control that in some way because they know that's
00:43:53where they're most vulnerable.
00:43:54I mean, there's really is, it's if a woman wants a man to do something, they know
00:43:58they have one avenue that they, and they don't even have to have sex with them.
00:44:00They just have to flirt with them half the times and they'll do stupid shit.
00:44:03So, and I think that's why they, you know, they ratchet down on it.
00:44:06I think that's why even governments and men in power ratchet down on sex because
00:44:11they're afraid of it.
00:44:12You make really good points.
00:44:14And I definitely think there's a lot of truth in that.
00:44:16I think that the fear from some men is like, Oh, if she is promiscuous, then can I
00:44:23trust her to not be?
00:44:24Cause, cause, cause as men, we know we can't switch it off.
00:44:28And men know what dogs we can be.
00:44:30So like, well, if you can't switch it off, then we're really fucked, you know?
00:44:33And there is a little bit of fear there.
00:44:35And one of the things about porn that's really interesting right now is this taboo
00:44:39going on of letting people fuck your wife.
00:44:41Oh yeah.
00:44:41The other 22 thing.
00:44:43I don't know if you're familiar with that.
00:44:44Oh yeah.
00:44:45There was the Lena Paul, Lena the plug.
00:44:47Sorry.
00:44:47Yeah.
00:44:47Plug thing.
00:44:48Yeah.
00:44:48Yeah.
00:44:48He set that up where, you know, they'd been doing girls together and she'd been
00:44:53off limits and then out of nowhere, they dropped this trailer of her in the big
00:44:57black guy and I've never seen the internet care that much about porn.
00:45:01I noticed, I don't know the whole story, but I did see some of it on like Twitter
00:45:05and stuff.
00:45:05And I was like, I was actually really surprised.
00:45:07Oh yeah.
00:45:08Like great PR thing.
00:45:10Yeah.
00:45:10I don't know what his response was or if it was staged or if it was real or what,
00:45:16but I was actually really surprised that she got so much shit for it.
00:45:20She, he got the shit.
00:45:21Oh, he got a lot.
00:45:22Oh, he got, Oh my God.
00:45:25Why?
00:45:26Cause the guy has a big cock.
00:45:27Um, like what was the, I think it's really hard to explain.
00:45:31I feel like you've just landed on this planet.
00:45:33It's mad.
00:45:33Yeah.
00:45:33No, because Adam is a podcaster as well.
00:45:36So he's kind of dipping into two different worlds in porn.
00:45:40I'm podcasting even hip hop.
00:45:42And so his background is podcasting and then he got with his partner and she's in
00:45:46porn.
00:45:47And yeah, so they started making porn together and it was kind of seen as like
00:45:52weird for a podcaster to do this, but fair play to you.
00:45:54Like you get all these women and then out of nowhere.
00:45:57So he, he kind of, I imagine had some parts on the back and then when he decides to
00:46:02let her do her thing, a lot of the hip hop guys, the podcast guys,
00:46:07I can totally see it.
00:46:08You went from being on the top of the hill and getting all this pussy to being now
00:46:12like, Oh, well your girl's going out and getting other dicks.
00:46:15So he like, like, I feel like in their eyes, maybe he like fell off the top of the
00:46:18mountain type situation.
00:46:19Is that like, and I think he handled it as best as anyone can by leaning into it
00:46:24and getting and making more jokes than anyone else did.
00:46:27Yeah.
00:46:27So like he's tweeting out, like if you really love your wife, you should let her
00:46:31fuck other guys.
00:46:33That's exactly what I was thinking.
00:46:34I was like, I actually would much rather hang out with that guy than anybody else.
00:46:36Cause at least he's letting her do whatever she wants.
00:46:40I personally didn't find it a big deal because it's not like, look, if one of my
00:46:45mates privately was like, yeah, she's got a fella coming around this weekend.
00:46:49Like I'd be like, what?
00:46:50But it's Adam 22.
00:46:51Like it's what he does.
00:46:52He's in the porn game, but he quite geniusly played on the taboo of cuckolding
00:46:59and all of this sort of stuff.
00:47:00And then whipped up the shit storm.
00:47:02And I think even the wedding photos went out like a month before.
00:47:06So he's like, Oh, I'm going to drop these wedding photo.
00:47:09And it looked like a beautiful wedding, the most perfect wedding.
00:47:13And then you've got her bending over a month later.
00:47:16So I do feel like maybe this was a bit of a gene.
00:47:18I mean, we're talking about right now, right?
00:47:19Yeah.
00:47:20Um, and he made a shitload of money, but that's why I wanted to ask you guys like
00:47:23whether you'd consider doing something similar because it just broke the
00:47:28internet, you know, and everyone knows you guys as this couple.
00:47:31I've never been one to, I don't know.
00:47:35I, and like, I don't know if this is true cause I don't know enough about the
00:47:37story, but I don't know if this is like a play to make a bunch of money.
00:47:40And for me, I've never made my decisions in porn based upon
00:47:43how much money I would make.
00:47:44I've always done what I enjoyed.
00:47:46So even the idea of selling, I hate to say this cause I don't know if this is
00:47:49true, but selling my soul to do that scene, if it is for the press or it is for
00:47:56the money, it just wouldn't be worth it to me.
00:47:58But if she was doing it in the sense of, I really just want to explore other
00:48:02options of human beings, even though we're married, I just want to like, I want
00:48:05to know what other experiences are like.
00:48:07I feel like that I'd be all for, but depending on, I would never be like,
00:48:11well, you know, if I do this scene, I can like pretend it's something else
00:48:16and then make a bunch of money.
00:48:17I just, I don't know.
00:48:18For me, it was like, I've got into it to get laid.
00:48:22But you were pretty, you could have gotten laid anyway.
00:48:24No, but it was a safe way to do it.
00:48:26I was so shy when I got into porn and I did it because I had no game and I wanted
00:48:31to explore my sexuality safely.
00:48:33The idea of you being shy.
00:48:34I know.
00:48:35I'm actually very shy in real life.
00:48:37She's actually very shy.
00:48:39I was just watching an interview last night with Dua Marisha and she was like,
00:48:41yeah, I've had a fist in my fist in a man's ass, a fist in a woman's ass.
00:48:44Oh yeah.
00:48:45I'm like, I put my fist in a guy's ass and I clapped in there like a seal, but I'm
00:48:50very shy.
00:48:50But she is very shy.
00:48:52And it's not, I can't even, I can't, I can't even like sit here and bullshit.
00:48:56She's actually pain.
00:48:57I'm the extrovert.
00:48:58She's painfully shy.
00:48:59If she has to do appearances and stuff, it's like, yeah, I'm really dragging.
00:49:02Yeah, even, even coming here and she knows you and likes you and stuff like that.
00:49:07Even that she was like, just a little nervous.
00:49:09Like then, then normal.
00:49:10And it's, and it's funny.
00:49:11I'm like, yeah, whatever.
00:49:12Don't worry about it.
00:49:13Yeah.
00:49:13You really are carefree.
00:49:14Yeah.
00:49:15I really don't give a fuck, bro.
00:49:17I crossed the 50 line and all my fucks went away.
00:49:20If they were just gone.
00:49:21Yeah.
00:49:21I feel like I'm hitting that early.
00:49:23Cause you know, you see these sort of wiser older dudes who they start coming out
00:49:27with stuff and you're like, Oh, you're at that age now where you're just like, this
00:49:30is me deal with it.
00:49:31Yeah.
00:49:31I really feel like I'm hitting that.
00:49:32I think it's commendable.
00:49:33I like that.
00:49:34I like the no fucks given the true no fucks given.
00:49:37I really, I really think that's like the ultimate, like enlightenment is when you
00:49:42just don't, it's funny.
00:49:44Cause there were, I mean, there are definitely things that I care about.
00:49:47I just have learned not to care about what other people think.
00:49:50I just don't care.
00:49:51I just, you know, I'm, I guarantee you there'll be a million comments underneath
00:49:55here making all kinds of stupid statements.
00:49:57And I just, I probably won't even read them.
00:49:59And if I do read them, I'm just going to laugh and say, okay, congratulations.
00:50:02You, you had your five sentences in there.
00:50:04Good for you.
00:50:06I mean, like, uh, you know, if you were a person in my life who I was like, let's say
00:50:12you were like my, my old mom, for example, my old mom turned around me in one day and
00:50:16he was like, yeah, updating the pod.
00:50:17So now I'd be like, Hey, you know, cause I do think that it really helps you that
00:50:24you're a wiser guy then.
00:50:26Cause I, if you had met Danny, let's say you were in your thirties and that version
00:50:33of you had met Danny, how would you have handled it?
00:50:36Because it's one thing being your age when you've had all these years to realize.
00:50:39Well, I mean, she would have been a little too young.
00:50:41No, let's just say, yeah, there was the insecurity was a bit higher.
00:50:46I don't know.
00:50:48Um, I've never, like I said, I've never been a jealous person ever like over anything.
00:50:53So I don't know.
00:50:54I think, uh, the only difference would have been is at that point I was way more about
00:51:01my career and about hustling and about moving things.
00:51:03So I tended to, and it was reason for my split up with my exes.
00:51:08I tended to put my work first and my relationship second.
00:51:12And I learned later on that that's not the way it should be.
00:51:16But other than that, I don't think I would have had a, I still wouldn't have had a
00:51:19problem with where we, you know what this wasn't.
00:51:21I just don't, I just never cared.
00:51:23You know, I, I never cared about my girlfriend's body counts, my wife's body
00:51:27count, I just didn't care.
00:51:29You mentioned in your book, um, had a reader that last night made about halfway
00:51:33through fantastic, by the way.
00:51:34Thank you.
00:51:35Um, dick pics happened to find their way into Danny's, um, inbox a lot.
00:51:41Um, I know you said you don't care about it a bit.
00:51:43We are doing it bizarre.
00:51:45I don't, I don't understand why guys do it.
00:51:47I don't.
00:51:47I was like, first of all, most of the time they send them.
00:51:50I mean, I have a dick and I've looked at these things and went, what the fuck is
00:51:53that?
00:51:54Cause I'm the one that shows them.
00:51:55Like, look at this one.
00:51:56Look at this one.
00:51:57Is that like an anthill in Texas?
00:51:59What is that thing?
00:51:59You know?
00:52:00And it's like, and I don't, you know, I think somewhere in the book I wrote, I
00:52:04said, the world would be a better place.
00:52:05If guys realize, instead of sending a dick pic, they should just send a text
00:52:09message that says, Oh, you're so pretty today.
00:52:11How's your day going?
00:52:12And women sent a picture of them getting a coffee, going into a Starbucks, the
00:52:16world would be a better place.
00:52:17Cause guys are visual and women are emotional.
00:52:19And that's just fact.
00:52:20The other way, the other way happens all the time is women will send 500 texts and
00:52:24the guy will want to write, stop texting me and delete and send something else.
00:52:28And then the girl, and you know, and the guy will send a dick pic and the girl
00:52:30will be like, Oh dude, come on, man.
00:52:32I wouldn't send a dip dick pic to my wife unless she asked like three times.
00:52:36Cause even then I wouldn't be sure she really wanted it.
00:52:39So I don't get it.
00:52:40You know, you have guys like Jeff Bezos sent dick pics.
00:52:44I mean, is your bank account, not your dick pic?
00:52:49The zeros are more than the inches, right?
00:52:52It's like you needed your, your Jeff Bezos.
00:52:54You needed to send a dick pic.
00:52:56I mean, I don't get it.
00:52:57That just shows that even the smartest man out here is as dumb as a fuck.
00:53:02I had a, I had a distant relative wrote a book called the basic laws of human
00:53:06stupidity.
00:53:07And literally the first rule was stupidity knows no status.
00:53:10There are stupid doctors and there are stupid businessmen and there are just
00:53:13stupid knows no status.
00:53:15And yeah, when a guy has his, the Robin Williams joke, God gave men two head and
00:53:20only enough blood to run one at a time.
00:53:22Oh yeah.
00:53:23You got a hard on in your hand.
00:53:24You're not thinking straight.
00:53:25I don't care how beautiful your cock is.
00:53:27It doesn't mean you can use it.
00:53:29Oh yeah.
00:53:29I can have a really good set of kitchen knives and I wouldn't be able to cook
00:53:32shit.
00:53:33Have you experienced that before?
00:53:35Like where you've been with a guy who you're like, this should be great.
00:53:39And then you're like, okay.
00:53:41I'm like, well, I'm just going to sit on your face cause this isn't working for
00:53:44me.
00:53:44Yes.
00:53:44Yes.
00:53:45Just cause you have a pretty cock doesn't mean anything.
00:53:47Wow.
00:53:48Wow.
00:53:49You've always got away with words.
00:53:51I remember the last time we had you on, some of the one line I was like, this is
00:53:55going in the history books.
00:53:58It was something like, um, you called only fans Uber for my pussy.
00:54:01Yeah.
00:54:02And then sounds, sounds like something I'd say.
00:54:06Absolutely.
00:54:06Yeah.
00:54:07I mean, I, I personally love that guy.
00:54:09Send me dick pics, especially in my only fans because I love giving dick ratings.
00:54:13Oh, that's a real huge thing, man.
00:54:14Oh my God.
00:54:15Especially if it's femdom.
00:54:17Like, let me fucking roast your cock.
00:54:19Like that's the best day ever.
00:54:20Yeah.
00:54:20So what, what is that?
00:54:22How did they react when you do that?
00:54:24I'm really mean.
00:54:25Okay.
00:54:26Give me a picture of your dick.
00:54:27I'll roast it right now.
00:54:29But they asked for it.
00:54:30It's not, she's not mean to it.
00:54:31No, no, no, no.
00:54:32They're like, Oh, humiliate my, you know, she's like, Oh, I'm going in on this.
00:54:36Since I've seen you, I've been shooting a lot more femdom stuff.
00:54:38Okay.
00:54:39Um, just because I've been like enjoying it and yeah, my femdom content is my
00:54:44favorite.
00:54:46Wow.
00:54:47And these guys are like craving the nastiest.
00:54:51Can you tell me just for example, like if you don't mind dipping into the archives
00:54:56of your mind, what is the sort of things that you, you may say to these guys about
00:55:02for free?
00:55:02Is that, is that hard?
00:55:05Okay.
00:55:05Why don't you send me a photo and you get fully hard.
00:55:08Oh, is, Oh, is that how you would stroke?
00:55:12Yeah.
00:55:12Are you just like over eager?
00:55:13You can settle down.
00:55:14You can slow it down.
00:55:15You don't have to be such a fucking loser.
00:55:18If, Oh, do you last more than 30 seconds in bed?
00:55:20Are you going to last this even minute now?
00:55:22Oh, you're going to come already.
00:55:23Aren't you?
00:55:24You're fucking pathetic.
00:55:33That'll, that'll be, that'll be $300.
00:55:36Okay.
00:55:36That being said, it's only with consent.
00:55:38I care about consent.
00:55:39So yeah.
00:55:40But all the ratings, uh, femdom stuff.
00:55:44No, no, no, no.
00:55:45Just, just one that you probably like 25%, 30%.
00:55:48But what about the ones who think that they're bigger and want to hear that?
00:55:51And then you're like, actually it's a five out of 10.
00:55:53Really?
00:55:54Yeah.
00:55:55Like, um, I have some friends that we talk about like, okay, but what's the real
00:55:58rating?
00:55:59You gave them an eight, but what's the real rate?
00:56:03But all the ratings are accurate.
00:56:04No, they really are.
00:56:05My favorite is femdom and small penis humiliation guys will send me their tiny
00:56:08micrococks and they want me to roast them.
00:56:11And it is the best days ever.
00:56:13It's so much fun, bro.
00:56:15God bless him.
00:56:15This is why we keep getting you guys.
00:56:17God bless him.
00:56:19It's like these like little tiny, oh, it's the best.
00:56:21How small are we talking about?
00:56:23Give me an example.
00:56:24Yeah.
00:56:25Like, like guys, you know, like, like guys will jerk off a two fingers.
00:56:29Right.
00:56:30Holy hard.
00:56:30And to come because they couldn't get it.
00:56:32Yeah.
00:56:32Yeah.
00:56:33That's awful.
00:56:34And then I usually like, he's having coffee and I'm like, look at this guy's
00:56:36tiny cock.
00:56:37And he's like, Oh my God.
00:56:38Go inside.
00:56:45Like jump scare.
00:56:47Could you give me a, give me a break.
00:56:49Were you aware that men with this smaller penis existed before you got into this
00:56:54sort of thing?
00:56:55Or was this your first experience with a lot of little penises?
00:56:58Anytime you date a guy, you're like, please don't have a terrible cock.
00:57:02Just please, just please let it just look like somewhat decent.
00:57:06It's like this.
00:57:07I'm sure it's the same for men.
00:57:08I'll tell you too.
00:57:09And it's like these guys, they'll send, they'll send their dicks in for rating.
00:57:12And there's a, there's a part to it that you're like, I kind of get it.
00:57:16They're probably, they're just looking for some validation in life.
00:57:19And it's funny because most of the time they actually hear what I would do with
00:57:25it more.
00:57:25Like when I get to a dick rating, it's not like, Oh, I might be like, Oh, your
00:57:29cock is so thick.
00:57:30Or, Ooh, you look like you're like a solid, like seven, eight inches.
00:57:32Like not, you know, but it's more like, I would like to ride it like this.
00:57:36I would like to see how far I can put it down my throat.
00:57:38I would like to like, see how quickly I can get you off just for sport, you know,
00:57:42just like stuff like that.
00:57:43They care more about like the dirty talk aspect.
00:57:46I feel like, at least for my fans, I can't speak on everyone, but, um, I think
00:57:50they enjoy more of like what I would do with that cock more than like me being
00:57:54like, yeah, that would look really good with like a little top hat and a
00:57:56mustache.
00:57:57Like I've heard, I've heard porn stars talk about like having sex with the
00:58:02biggest dicks.
00:58:02Can you describe a bit of like having to deal with those extra large guys and
00:58:08how tricky that can be or whatever, if you don't mind, Vic?
00:58:11Yeah, no, no, no.
00:58:13I know where this is going.
00:58:14Did I tell you about the last dick I ever took when I was on last time?
00:58:17Nope.
00:58:18Okay.
00:58:21So do you know who Danny D is?
00:58:23I've heard of him.
00:58:23Yeah.
00:58:23Okay.
00:58:24So Danny D is this like sweet as pea, nice guy, English guy.
00:58:30So small.
00:58:31Like I could take him in a fight.
00:58:32Like he's not a big dude.
00:58:33No, man.
00:58:34He's 118 pounds.
00:58:35Yeah.
00:58:35He could be a jockey.
00:58:36Yeah.
00:58:37This really sums up the Lord give us and the Lord take away.
00:58:40Absolutely.
00:58:41He got a lot in one area.
00:58:43This guy has this massive dick and browsers was like, I'm going to get like
00:58:48my bro.
00:58:48Thanks browsers.
00:58:49There's scenes going to shoot.
00:58:50Yeah.
00:58:51Um, but they were like, will you work with Danny D?
00:58:53And I was like, I love him.
00:58:54He's a really nice guy, but he has a huge dick.
00:58:56And I'm like, I am not the kind of person that's like, what's the biggest
00:59:00thing you can put inside me?
00:59:01You know?
00:59:02So how many interest years out of it?
00:59:04Like, Oh, guesstimate.
00:59:06He's he's a round two.
00:59:08He's like, he's, he's like a subway sandwich.
00:59:11Wow.
00:59:11Okay.
00:59:12He's a point.
00:59:12Yeah.
00:59:12It's a point line.
00:59:13Yeah.
00:59:13A point line.
00:59:14Yeah.
00:59:14You're going to be like, God damn it.
00:59:16She did what?
00:59:17Yeah.
00:59:17Um, I remember like going to set, I flew to Vegas to work with him.
00:59:22I was thinking about getting out, like stopping working with performers.
00:59:24I was like, you know, I just kind of feel like I'm, I've done everything I wanted
00:59:28to do and I've worked with everyone I wanted to work with and like, I just
00:59:30kind of feel like I'm ready for this new chapter and I'm working with Danny.
00:59:34I was like, dude, you have a huge dick.
00:59:36Like I'm looking at this thing and I'm like, and he was really sweet.
00:59:39He's like, I'll do whatever you want.
00:59:40I'll lay however you want.
00:59:42I was like, okay, well I'm going to need like a solid 20 minutes before the
00:59:45scene starts to like work my pussy up to like get it in.
00:59:49And he was super cool.
00:59:50All right.
00:59:50No problem.
00:59:51Tell me what that means.
00:59:52You have to like do like pregnancy breathing.
00:59:56Cause you can't just start the scene and be like, I think a lot of people think
00:59:58that like, we just are just like open gates.
01:00:02Like, yes.
01:00:02Just give me all the cock.
01:00:04I'm just ready to go.
01:00:05I thought these women must be doing something.
01:00:06No, we warm up before.
01:00:08I mean, everyone's different.
01:00:09I warm up.
01:00:09If it's a big dick, I like to warm up before.
01:00:11I like to get my pussy wet.
01:00:12Like I like to like.
01:00:13Stretching before the marathon.
01:00:14Yeah, exactly.
01:00:16So I'm like inching it in and like sitting on his cock and like, okay, okay.
01:00:20I can do this.
01:00:21I can do this.
01:00:22How painful is that to start with?
01:00:24It actually wasn't painful because I slowly warmed up to it.
01:00:27And so the scene started, we did a great scene.
01:00:30He was very sweet.
01:00:31He was very like gentle.
01:00:33And I will never forget it.
01:00:34As long as I live, I'm walking through the airport.
01:00:36Cause I was flying back home to LA from Vegas.
01:00:39And my fucking pussy was giving me like a standing ovation.
01:00:43I was walking to the airport.
01:00:44My pussy was going like this.
01:00:46Cause he had fucking blown it out for the last two hours.
01:00:48And I was like, I'm done.
01:00:52I climbed the Mount Everest of cock and I'm fucking done with it.
01:00:55And, um, my pussy still doesn't do that by the way.
01:00:57Just so you know.
01:00:58But, uh, yeah, I was just kind of like, I did that.
01:01:00Where do you go from here?
01:01:02A freight train?
01:01:02Like, what else am I going to put in there?
01:01:04Yeah.
01:01:04Like there can't be that many guys as big or bigger than him.
01:01:07Right.
01:01:07And like I said, like, I know a lot of girls that love that.
01:01:10It's just not for me.
01:01:11So I was like, you know, I did it.
01:01:13It's on the internet.
01:01:14Here you go.
01:01:15So like enjoy.
01:01:17And yeah.
01:01:18So that's not your ideal.
01:01:20Is there an ideal?
01:01:21Obviously Vic, uh, present good.
01:01:22Yeah.
01:01:23I just like a nice cock that like stretches me to a nice point.
01:01:26Makes me come.
01:01:27And I love a man that needs pussy.
01:01:30There we go.
01:01:30Easy to please.
01:01:32Very simple.
01:01:32You must have a degree in this point.
01:01:35Yeah.
01:01:35Did you give him instructions or like, as in like, you know, when you're getting to know each other, were you very communicative of what you wanted from him?
01:01:42Or was it?
01:01:43Yeah, we actually talked about it.
01:01:44Yeah, we did.
01:01:45I literally, I was like, dude, I hope you eat pussy and ass.
01:01:47Cause if you don't, we're going to have a problem right out of the gate.
01:01:50I was like, Oh, I got an oral fixation.
01:01:51So we're good.
01:01:52We got this.
01:01:53Yeah.
01:01:54There's a funny, funny story was, is we started dating long distance.
01:01:59So we spent all this time talking to each other.
01:02:00So we had like two or three weeks and it wound up being this weird thing where I met her family and she met my family.
01:02:08And we didn't plan it like that.
01:02:09It was like 1948.
01:02:10Like we met the families and we still hadn't had sex.
01:02:13So the first, it was just like these like fake circumstances, first circumstances.
01:02:17So we're like, it's building, it's building and building.
01:02:18So like the first night we have sex, I'm like, you know, I'm a 50 year old man and she's an adult film star.
01:02:23And we were like 16 year old kids on our fricking first date.
01:02:26We were like trying to figure out how to get, and it was, and while, I mean, it was amazing.
01:02:30It was, it was wonderful, but it was hysterical.
01:02:32Cause we're like, how are we like so nervous?
01:02:34We had been friends for a year and a half.
01:02:36You had met, I had, I had met your family.
01:02:38You had met my family.
01:02:39We had been like talking and sexting and like discussing like what we like in bed.
01:02:44And then you like get into the room together alone.
01:02:45You're like, Oh God, I hope this works.
01:02:47You know, there's a lot of pressure when you realize, like, you know, like I think we both realize this might
01:02:53be it, this might be the one.
01:02:55And it's like the first time, man, you don't want to, you don't want to make a bad impression.
01:02:59So it's like, especially when you're the dude, obviously there's a little more pressure on us generally, you know?
01:03:03Yeah.
01:03:03How did you cope?
01:03:04You all right big boy?
01:03:05Yeah.
01:03:05I think we're doing okay, we've been married for six years, what do you think?
01:03:08Six years, next volume of Colors, I think.
01:03:10But it was, it was, and we, we always joke about it.
01:03:12Cause we laugh cause we really were nervous.
01:03:14We were like really kind of like giddy nervous going into it.
01:03:17And it's like, how could this be possible?
01:03:19And then for me, I was like, Ooh, do I give him the porn star experience?
01:03:23Or do I give him the Kira experience?
01:03:26And what is the difference between the two?
01:03:27When you're shooting porn, it's, it's, I'm still fucking and enjoying it, but you're, you're playing it out for the camera.
01:03:32You know, it's like, you know, or it's like when you're, when you're intimate, you know, I'm not like, Oh my God, fuck me.
01:03:38Like, you just don't do that really?
01:03:40Like out of the gate, maybe, maybe right before an orgasm, but like right out of the gate, not so much.
01:03:44So.
01:03:45I think a woman who can perform a little bit in bed, like if they've got that confidence and I don't mean like all the way to porn level, but just turn the
01:03:53volume.
01:03:53I'm a loud person in real life, but I don't, it's, it's authentic.
01:03:58It's women with confidence are fucking fantastic.
01:04:01I just got the hardest thing on the planet.
01:04:03When a woman is like, knows you, they're confident with you.
01:04:05That's when you're like, okay, we good.
01:04:08You know, like, cause as men, when you feel like you've got to make all the moves and do all of the, like, and do you feel like it's confidence or do you feel like vocal?
01:04:16Cause I feel like a lot of women just won't communicate what they want.
01:04:19And I feel like a lot of people are like, Oh, you're a confident woman.
01:04:21Like, no, I just told you that I want you to bend me over and fuck me.
01:04:24Like, that's just like me communicating.
01:04:26I guess for me, some women don't have the confidence to communicate and it's, it's difficult.
01:04:33Like it doesn't feel great when I, it's not even nice.
01:04:39Like she could be beautiful.
01:04:40She could be everything you want, but if you're not telling me you're in this moment with me, then I'm just like, yeah, it just doesn't work.
01:04:50It just doesn't work.
01:04:51Put it down to shyness.
01:04:52Sometimes like they just don't feel like they can be that, that girl and don't get me wrong.
01:04:58I've definitely brought it out with you.
01:05:00I just got to say that, cause I do shower them with praise.
01:05:03That's all we want.
01:05:05We just want to be told we're pretty, that we fuck great.
01:05:07Tell a girl she has a pretty pussy and she'll do anything.
01:05:11Cause girls, I have never met a woman that was not insecure about her pussy.
01:05:15If you, if a girl opens her legs and go, damn, you have a really pretty pussy, that's it.
01:05:20I guarantee she'll suck your cock.
01:05:21Guaranteed free advice, free advice.
01:05:24It's great advice.
01:05:25It's great because some men don't think to say things like that.
01:05:28Like it's not even that they're not thinking it.
01:05:31They just don't want to say it because it's like, what if I'm a creepy weirdo?
01:05:35And again, that's, that's the, that's the big problem, right?
01:05:37Women want to be told things.
01:05:39They are emotional and men are visual.
01:05:41Men are looking at it in their eyes, but it's like, say, say, use your words, bro.
01:05:44Use your words.
01:05:45Say something like, oh my God.
01:05:48And guys don't, we just don't think like that.
01:05:50If like, not to get too graphic on your show, but like, even if like, even if like,
01:05:55if you're getting head and she's doing something that you enjoy, fucking tell her.
01:06:01Because for us, it's like, oh, I love when you play with my balls.
01:06:04Great.
01:06:05Cause I'm guessing down here.
01:06:07I'm pulling and prodding and stroking and hoping that you like it.
01:06:11But if you say like, I love that or I love the way your pussy feels or I love the way you feel in this position
01:06:15or I like when you do this, like for us, we've, I'm sure guys appreciate it too.
01:06:19It's like, I'm doing a good job.
01:06:21It does help.
01:06:22I think that's the biggest advantage that I've got in life is being a talker.
01:06:26And I've definitely used that in every avenue of my life.
01:06:29Do you know what I mean?
01:06:29It does help for sure.
01:06:31I was wondering if you, either of you, this is, worry about your appearance, generally speaking.
01:06:40Do you think either of you is more concerned with how you come across in public or?
01:06:43Are you talking about like appearance?
01:06:44Like looks?
01:06:45Yeah.
01:06:45Yeah.
01:06:45That's what I think.
01:06:46And I guess there's quite a bit of pressure on you because that's kind of your part of your job.
01:06:50And I know you do a lot of photoshoots.
01:06:52So it kind of must be in your head a little bit.
01:06:54Yeah.
01:06:55I, I'm obviously, I just turned 34 and I got into porn when I was 21.
01:07:00So obviously like when you, when you're over 30, you start to age and I'm not a big Botox filler person.
01:07:08I don't know what the future holds, but in this moment in time, I'm not.
01:07:11So I also, it's like, I look in the mirror and I, I've watched myself age in 4k.
01:07:18For fucking 13 years.
01:07:19Bro, I know how bad that is.
01:07:20Sometimes I check the internet and I'm like, fucking hell.
01:07:23Yeah.
01:07:23And like, and I was trying to explain this actually to a girlfriend of mine the other day.
01:07:26I'm like, women take pictures of themselves and put it on the internet and it's like just your face really.
01:07:30Oh, okay.
01:07:31I'm going to wear a little like waist snatcher or whatever.
01:07:33So I'm like, my, I'm bent over a table and you can see like my rolls and I'm like, God.
01:07:39Okay.
01:07:39Well, that's on the fucking internet forever.
01:07:41So it, I, I do struggle a little bit.
01:07:43Like I wouldn't say unhealthily, but I'm like, damn, I gotta start working out more.
01:07:48The other thing that I was sort of thinking about was when I met, well, when I first, it was introduced to your content.
01:07:54You had the, I don't know how to put this, but in the UK, we'd probably say the girl next door.
01:07:58Look familiar.
01:08:00A little bit out of reach, but we feel like we've known her before.
01:08:06You know, and it was, it was a niche that you owned very much.
01:08:11So, and obviously you were so young and to be expected.
01:08:14And as much as you've maintained, you looked very well.
01:08:17It's hard for a woman.
01:08:18I think to be dealing with that level of scrutiny all the time.
01:08:23And it's, it's really tough.
01:08:24And I've noticed even my content chains changing.
01:08:27I went from like girl next door to now like naughty housewife.
01:08:30And like, like I was saying, like doing more femdom stuff.
01:08:33Like I'm more like womanly.
01:08:34I still have a big ass.
01:08:36But it is, it's like, okay, like I'm like more body conscious, like just from age.
01:08:40Like you, as a woman, if you're naked all the time on the internet, it's, it's hard to see some.
01:08:44Some days I'm like, yeah, I shouldn't have eaten that pasta last night.
01:08:48That doesn't look so good.
01:08:50You know what, like guys don't even care.
01:08:51They're just like, just show us your ass and bend over and jiggle it.
01:08:54If you're known for a big ass, we want you to eat more.
01:08:56I know, I'm like, I'm cooking pasta every weekend.
01:09:00I've noticed my fans like it more when I'm thick.
01:09:02And like me, like being like a woman over 30.
01:09:05I'm like, that's always my comedy with her.
01:09:08She's like, there was stuff on the end table.
01:09:09I'm like, if they're looking at the end table, you're doing the content wrong.
01:09:12She's like, oh my God.
01:09:16And I'm like, there's a pillow in the scene.
01:09:19I'm like, what are you talking about?
01:09:20I was like, my stockings ripped.
01:09:21He goes, no one's looking at that.
01:09:23It reminds me of like nearly every relationship I've been in.
01:09:26The woman puts on a stone within a month of being with me.
01:09:29Because I'm like, what's that?
01:09:30Oh, that's the weight thing.
01:09:32A stone is like, we'll use anything.
01:09:33Sorry, like 14 pounds.
01:09:36I'm always like, yeah, have some more.
01:09:37Because I like women thick, you know.
01:09:39Me too, obviously.
01:09:41Yeah, I've definitely thickened up.
01:09:43I would say that from when I was 21, I was like very small.
01:09:46You know, it's funny you say that.
01:09:47Because I'm conscious of how I appear for her.
01:09:52Not because I give a shit.
01:09:53But I want to, I literally want to be, especially because I'm the porn star's husband.
01:10:00So not only looks, but attitude.
01:10:02You have to kind of like develop a certain persona when guys come up.
01:10:06And it's like, you know, I almost, it's like you have to kind of be disarming a little bit.
01:10:10You know, they're fans.
01:10:12You know, they pay the bills.
01:10:13They're fans.
01:10:14And you look kind of scary.
01:10:15Like Vic kind of looks scary.
01:10:16He's a little intimidating, I feel like.
01:10:17I swear to God, Vic has like a little bit of a mob boss type look to him.
01:10:21I get that a lot.
01:10:22But when he opens his mouth, you're like, oh my God, this is the nicest guy ever.
01:10:25Like it doesn't, a little bit like me, apparently.
01:10:27Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:10:28You're totally different to how you look.
01:10:29If I saw you on the street, I would like cross the street.
01:10:31I'd be like, oh, that guy's going to kill me.
01:10:33I was telling one of your guys, we talked to her.
01:10:35I said, Brian is great.
01:10:36I said, he's the guy you want in a bar to go.
01:10:37That's my friend.
01:10:38Yeah.
01:10:38Meanwhile, he's like the nicest guy I've ever met in my life.
01:10:41Yeah.
01:10:41There was a viral clip of me jumping into a fight.
01:10:45My mate was about to get attacked.
01:10:46And I'm like, just straight in the middle of these guys.
01:10:48Like, all right, what the fuck is going on here?
01:10:51So you're actually bang on about it.
01:10:54There's been quite a few porn stars who've came out in the last few years who are mega
01:10:58names, like I wrote them down.
01:11:00Mia Khalifa, Lana Rhodes, Adriana Chechik.
01:11:05They've all been saying, like, how bad it was and how they regret it.
01:11:09I get so fucking pissed off.
01:11:11Well, Kieran, Kieran kind of was like, they weren't saying that when they were on set getting paid.
01:11:15Yeah, Kieran and I are friends.
01:11:17I'm not so sure about Chechik because I've seen her and I haven't seen her really trust the industry.
01:11:21But the other two are nightmares.
01:11:23So there's a there's a tweet from her.
01:11:26I said, what if I told you that I hated that I did porn?
01:11:29What if I told you that I hated my body is not my own?
01:11:31I'm tired of being a product.
01:11:33I'm not my own person.
01:11:34It's really killing me.
01:11:35I don't want to tell my truth because you'll use them against me.
01:11:37And then she was just on her period.
01:11:39Maybe, you know, honestly, or she might have had imposter syndrome way, you know, and we've had this conversation before.
01:11:47And I know my wife has illustrated that.
01:11:49Maybe you shouldn't get in until you're 21, 22.
01:11:52Yeah, that there's that point in time.
01:11:53And a lot of times they get in and your frontal lobe isn't fully developed.
01:11:57You maybe you make decisions you might not have made later on and you regret the decisions.
01:12:02But don't turn around and say it was the industry's fault.
01:12:05I get really pissed off when I see those stories because well,
01:12:09Mia and Lorna were mega stories.
01:12:11Like, yeah, they did quite a lot of damage with the most famous.
01:12:15You set the industry back 10 years, 20 years because you made bad choices and people talk to you into things.
01:12:22And now you're bitter about it or it's like I had such a great experience in porn.
01:12:27I loved it.
01:12:28I still love it.
01:12:29I had I loved everyone.
01:12:30I shot with I never felt trapped.
01:12:32I never felt tricked into anything, but I had the balls to say it.
01:12:36I had the balls.
01:12:36I know I don't want to do that.
01:12:37No, I don't want to work with that person.
01:12:39No, I don't but if you're like, okay, well, maybe I'll do this and okay.
01:12:43Well, maybe I'll do that.
01:12:43And oh, I'll do you know, I'll do it for the money or I'll take the check and get a new Louis bag.
01:12:48And then they turn around 10 years later and they're like, I hate my life.
01:12:50I hate my life choices.
01:12:51I hate what I do on the internet.
01:12:53Well, maybe if you had fucking checked in with yourself every two seconds and made sure it's something you actually wanted to do.
01:12:58You wouldn't have been in the shit situation.
01:13:00So don't turn around and then blame the porn industry for something because you made bad choices in life.
01:13:04You know, the abilities are big.
01:13:05I get pissed.
01:13:06He's like, everything is somebody else.
01:13:08Their mother's fault.
01:13:08Their father's fault.
01:13:09That was the job's fault.
01:13:10That's who's working for.
01:13:11No, it's all you.
01:13:12So it's also it's also like they're all victims of circumstance.
01:13:15Yeah, everybody's a victim.
01:13:16Porn is such an easy jab.
01:13:18It's the same thing.
01:13:18Like, oh, well, she's just a fucking slut.
01:13:20It's just an easy.
01:13:21Oh, well, porn was so bad to me.
01:13:22It's like, no, it wasn't.
01:13:24It's not.
01:13:24The modest thing about it is great.
01:13:26I love it.
01:13:26I can't say enough nice things in the industry.
01:13:29Lana Rhodes or Mia Khalifa using their real names.
01:13:31Oh, they're still riding off the name.
01:13:33Yeah, exactly.
01:13:34And that's the other.
01:13:35How horrible was it then?
01:13:36And it's also like, okay, do you just need another press story?
01:13:39Yeah, are you just talking shit so that you get press?
01:13:43Meanwhile, all of us that are still in the industry and loving it and working hard.
01:13:46I'm nothing but success stories and happy memories.
01:13:49Now everyone looks at us looks down at us because you'd made bad choices or you want to be in some news article feed into the crazy extremists who want to like put a put a taboo on it.
01:14:02Like it's 1970 and somebody just got off the bus from over her and they loaded him up with drugs and they sent them out to do porn.
01:14:08And this is not the you know, these those are long ago days.
01:14:12This is a corporate.
01:14:13It's business.
01:14:14And my wife has said repeatedly when you do porn, it's it's it's a life sentence period.
01:14:20There's nothing if she cured cancer tomorrow would be pornstar cures cancer X pornstar cures cancer.
01:14:25The problem is is some people don't want that anymore.
01:14:29So they don't they want to switch it off and they want to figure out how to get out of it.
01:14:32And the only way to figure out how to get out of it is go.
01:14:34They victimized me.
01:14:35I didn't want to do this.
01:14:37It wasn't really me.
01:14:38I only did it for six months, even though you're out there for years.
01:14:41It's like I can't I can't speak about Lana and Mia because I don't know them but I can't tell you how many people that I know that don't even read contracts that don't pay it.
01:14:50Read the script before they get to set that don't do the homework on the male talent or the female talent and then they wonder why they get in the situation.
01:14:56It's like you agree to things without even doing any research and then it's like, oh, well, I'm mad because you know, I did a scene and I was wearing braces.
01:15:04It's like say no.
01:15:06No one is forcing you.
01:15:08Nobody has your chain to a wall.
01:15:09You are making every decision in porn.
01:15:11You're you have the ability at any moment in time to say no and you choose not to and it feels like specifically with those two girls.
01:15:21They have made some of the most money in history from porn from porn.
01:15:25Yeah, like let's not kid with you without porn.
01:15:28You guys would be fucking nobody's right?
01:15:30You wouldn't be doing anything and it's helped you have a beautiful life.
01:15:34But I feel like it's a case of wanting your cake and eat it.
01:15:37Like you want to be in a situation where you have millions and millions of pounds.
01:15:42I mean, I know these women are like so rich from porn.
01:15:45Are they well long?
01:15:47I was from what I understood.
01:15:48I don't know.
01:15:49Have you seen a bacon cow?
01:15:50I like there's a lot of bullshit.
01:15:52Well, I might be wrong, but I knew I knew a guy who dated her and he was driving around a Lamborghini with her that she just bought a Lamborghini.
01:15:58He was like this girl's got a lot of money.
01:15:59So let's just say for the case of what the sake of our yeah, but what she's trying to put across you got a beautiful life out of it.
01:16:05Well, you everything comes with consequences.
01:16:08So you can't make that decision to do this to get all of that and then complain about what comes with it.
01:16:14When you let's not let's not like people who get into porn aren't away.
01:16:18Yeah, it's not like a big surprise.
01:16:20Like, oh my God people judge me like yeah, that's why you pay us.
01:16:23So well, I think I literally think one of the two of them actually said when I got into porn, I didn't realize I was going to have to have sex.
01:16:29Oh God, I literally I swear to you.
01:16:31I read that and I'm and I'm looking at the I was like, are you seriously?
01:16:34Yeah, it's hard because I try not to if you look at my social media, I really try not to get into any like political debates industry debate.
01:16:42I really still try to stay out of it.
01:16:44But in those situations, it's hard to watch that especially when you're when I'm so proud of doing porn like being part of the porn industry.
01:16:53So to hear someone just bash it based upon bad decisions.
01:16:56You're just like are you kidding me?
01:16:58Are you could like you're gonna you you're gonna switch sides.
01:17:01But yeah, you still go by your stage name.
01:17:03You still have an OnlyFans.
01:17:04You're still taking checks.
01:17:05It's still getting checks from Pornhub.
01:17:06Yeah.
01:17:07So is it really that bad or you're just bitter about it?
01:17:10Did you did you wipe?
01:17:10Did you did you call Pornhub and say take all my content down because they would if you told them not to take them.
01:17:16Did you do you still on OnlyFans?
01:17:17Are you still using the name?
01:17:18Are you still profiting off the name?
01:17:21Come on.
01:17:21Yeah, come on.
01:17:23It's a shame.
01:17:23It's a shame.
01:17:24If it was that horrible change your name.
01:17:26It doesn't matter who anytime these stories come out and girls, you know, use them for attention.
01:17:31It's just it's sad.
01:17:32It's really sad and you know, am I saying the industry is perfect?
01:17:36No, of course.
01:17:37There's a small amount of things that could happen or you know, small circumstances.
01:17:41I'm not going to sit here and say it's all like rainbows and fucking butterflies everywhere.
01:17:44But you have to have a good strong head about it.
01:17:47You have to be smart.
01:17:47You have to do the research.
01:17:48You have to make sure that you what choices you make in life sets you up for your future.
01:17:54Don't just agree to everything make bad choices and then look for somebody else to blame.
01:17:59You know, that's when I get pissed having done PR for a long time.
01:18:02I've done PR for just about every form of entertainment.
01:18:04You could possibly imagine literally from priest to politicians in every form of entertainment.
01:18:10There's a seedy side every single one.
01:18:13Okay, and you know, it's like they always talk about.
01:18:15Oh my God suicides and porn.
01:18:17Yeah, how much we want to run through the list of musicians who have committed suicide and you know, even WWE wrestlers.
01:18:25And a lot of times it's consequences of choices.
01:18:28You made a choice.
01:18:29You made a consequential choice.
01:18:30You went out there.
01:18:31You did something and then you want to regret it and blame it.
01:18:34And the worst part about it is is what you're doing isn't just trying to defend yourself.
01:18:39You screw in a lot of other people.
01:18:41You're literally hurting a lot of people.
01:18:45You're hurting their ability to earn a living.
01:18:46You're hurting their employees.
01:18:48You're hurting a lot of even like, you know, like the mainstream people that go on only fans and like scam fans that hurts us the people that don't scam fans.
01:18:55When you say scam, how do you mean?
01:18:57I can't think of the girl's name is but she wasn't in porn.
01:19:00She was I think she's like a mainstream mainstream former Disney star not Maitland Ward.
01:19:05Who's who's a sweetheart, but I don't know and she charged like $1,000 and you know, it's like a couple years ago.
01:19:11She got a whole way.
01:19:11The only fans had to change the policies because she got a whole bunch of money and then didn't deliver anything that you promised.
01:19:17Like meanwhile now people are afraid to use only fans because they're afraid that we're going to scam them.
01:19:21Yep, you know, so it's like your consequences also affect the people around you.
01:19:25So I think one of the hardest things that I've become aware of after interviewing people like yourself.
01:19:30I'm Kieran Kieran said something really deep which was like people treat him like he is a danger to children.
01:19:37Yeah, like and that really was kind of hard to because you know, you know Kieran like he's nice.
01:19:42Yeah, it gives me chills because he's like the nicest guy.
01:19:45He told me this sad story about how obviously he's a big football fan.
01:19:48Yeah, he got this kid who I want to say was in a really bad health situation.
01:19:55He got this kid football tickets and he got great tickets because he's friends with the club yada yada yada and the I think the family who have the kid.
01:20:05Well, like we don't want people knowing it was you who got our sick little boy football tickets because of what you're associated with you did the right thing.
01:20:14Yeah, I'm not saying yeah, it's do you have you experienced anything where you're like I'm being treated as if I'm a really bad person.
01:20:23Yeah, personally.
01:20:24I don't even I don't even assess.
01:20:26I don't have any kids.
01:20:27I don't want kids.
01:20:29I will personally say I've actually had you know friends that have had kids that I have had to say I can't go to this event or I can't because I don't feel like it would be appropriate because someone's going to see who I am and assume.
01:20:44Oh, the oh, yeah, the porn stars here.
01:20:46There's a porn star over there.
01:20:47That's not appropriate.
01:20:48It's like meanwhile.
01:20:48I'm in like this sitting there just like not by minding my own business.
01:20:52I'm like, you only know I'm a porn star because you watch my scenes, but that's another conversation.
01:20:55Yeah, I get a lot of I get a lot of like just blind judgment for it and it's you know, it's you just have to take it like if you're going to judge me without knowing me that I'm not going to change your mind no matter what I say.
01:21:09So I would just hope that you would get to know me as a person before you just like judge me for my career choices and I feel fortunate because I have a job that I love like how many people get to do something that they genuinely love.
01:21:22And are, you know, financially successful from it.
01:21:24So that's the thing that surprised me about you is it wasn't really about the money in the way it was about the pussy.
01:21:30No, but but like you say this and like when I first heard I was like, yeah, sure.
01:21:34But the more I've gotten to know you and the more I've seen I've done so much research on you after two interviews and watching you two guys together.
01:21:40I'm like, yeah, she doesn't really have to do this anymore.
01:21:43Like I don't think you actually need to do it anymore.
01:21:45I just enjoy it.
01:21:46Yeah, I just am still enjoying it.
01:21:47So businesses going left.
01:21:49Yeah, and that's always been my that's that's always my problem with the people come out.
01:21:53It's like there are ways to do it.
01:21:55Obviously.
01:21:56We are living example.
01:21:57There are ways to do it where you can take your name start businesses phase out of the industry do the right thing and not screw everybody.
01:22:05Yeah, not literally figuratively screw everybody who literally worked with you and helped you out and maybe helped your career helped you build your name.
01:22:14And then you go out the door and punch him in the head on your way out the door.
01:22:17I don't care how much you trash talk the industry.
01:22:19It's not going to go away.
01:22:20Yeah, no one's going to accept you.
01:22:22Yeah, if you've ever been to Pompeii.
01:22:24They I mean, there's like a wall.
01:22:26But not even that like I think people, you know, maybe some people think that if they leave the industry and they trash it that'll get erased from their from their history.
01:22:34It's not going away.
01:22:35I mean, listen, I think everyone can be a porn star now.
01:22:38Yeah, literally.
01:22:39It's a bit like being a celebrity.
01:22:40That's the other problem.
01:22:41I feel like especially with OnlyFans is I feel like a lot of people assume that if I make an OnlyFans, I'm going to make millions of dollars and it doesn't work like that.
01:22:49Oh, yeah, I think that.
01:22:49Yeah, and like that's the other thing is like I I want to communicate like, okay, you're making a life choice.
01:22:57You might not make millions of dollars.
01:22:59So is it worth it to you to deal with all this bullshit and all this like, you know, blind judgment and all you know, have yourself on the internet forever.
01:23:06Is it going to be worth it for you?
01:23:07If you only make a couple thousand?
01:23:09Yeah, it's going to be something you enjoy or because if you're doing it for the money, it's not the right choice.
01:23:14Yeah, you really the bizarre part too is everybody thinks that I'm attractive male or female going to drop my clothing do 20 minutes of work and make a billion dollars.
01:23:24If they took two days to watch what my wife has to do every day, not just you know, the 20 minutes of shooting.
01:23:32She's got alarms on her phone when she has to post she engages with fans.
01:23:36She's got to upload.
01:23:37You got to edit content.
01:23:38You have then we have all the other businesses that we do all of that stuff.
01:23:41It's we work constantly to maintain this not working looking lifestyle and and these guys don't grasp that you're not just going to drop your clothes and make money.
01:23:51You better bust your ass.
01:23:53You better work hard.
01:23:53You have to still everything requires hard work.
01:23:56Everything requires hard work and no one has patients anymore.
01:23:59We live in an instant gratification and that's who she always laughs.
01:24:02She goes you are the most patient person.
01:24:03I know is like when we wanted to create the underwear that we sent to you guys took us two years to do that.
01:24:09Very good underwear, by the way.
01:24:10Yeah.
01:24:10Thank you.
01:24:11But it took us two years to do that and my wife went nuts making sure that the band was perfect and it fit.
01:24:16I love the bond.
01:24:16Yeah.
01:24:17What does it say?
01:24:18They were moved to five.
01:24:19Yeah.
01:24:19Yeah, but it's like quality stuff.
01:24:21Yeah, it is high quality.
01:24:22Don't go and she wanted it to be that way.
01:24:24Most people three weeks in would have dumped it the content game.
01:24:28Whatever kind of content you're creating.
01:24:29It's a lot harder than people understand for sure.
01:24:31It's whatever goes on off-camera.
01:24:33Yeah is the hard bit and I remember I spoke to a calm girl.
01:24:37Once you explain to me like I am up at night for hours and hours talking to these guys when they're coming in from a nightclub night and I'm trying to keep going and grinding and she was like I am exhausted.
01:24:50I sleep the day away.
01:24:51I get up have a coffee and I'm back on the internet all night and that really hit me.
01:24:55I was like fuck that sounds hard and you're talking to guys who are drunk like, yeah, you know, they're asking.
01:25:01And she said like they'd ask her for like this freak me out actually because she was like they wanted them asked her for like inappropriate pictures of her when she was younger.
01:25:11Yeah, there's a little bit of like they're not low.
01:25:15There's a lot of mental with it too because you have to deal with that.
01:25:17I've had I've gotten like people show up to my house death threats stalkers weird questions.
01:25:22Like you're running this off way too quickly with it show up to you.
01:25:26Yeah, we had we had we had a stalker outside our house in Manhattan for almost three weeks and it was a woman.
01:25:31It was actually a woman.
01:25:32We've had but with the whole kind of woman was this and why was she there?
01:25:36We think you communicate.
01:25:38No, we had to call the cops and we had to get them.
01:25:41Most of this stuff stems from a like a lot of those romance scams and Ghana scam stuff.
01:25:45Oh, but can we can we explain that because I know we touched on it last time.
01:25:49But for those who don't know you have so many millions of followers who and there's a lot of them who want to contact you and there's people who are preying on them pretending to be you.
01:26:00Yes to get money out of them.
01:26:01Is that correct?
01:26:02Correct.
01:26:02And is there any more information that it's actually gotten worse because Instagram now because of the verification what people are doing is getting a an account verified with whatever their ideas and their whatever the faces and then they switch it to my name and my face, but they stay verified.
01:26:20Right?
01:26:20And then they go in as a verified account and they're pretending to talk to my fans.
01:26:24Like, oh, this is my super secret personal account.
01:26:27You know, I'm make some bullshit bullshit bullshit story whether it's like I'm leaving Vic or I want to be with you or I'll fly out and fuck you or you just send me all this money and then this all your magical dreams will come true.
01:26:42And I guarantee you at some point in one of your comments.
01:26:46It's going to say that's an old interview.
01:26:47They're not really together anymore.
01:26:48Oscar Wilde said it's easier to fool somebody than convince them.
01:26:52They've been fooled and that is the most accurate quote.
01:26:55I've ever heard in my entire life.
01:26:56Because once people start paying into this, there's a there's a feeling inside like it can't be fake because then I've been screwed.
01:27:04Yeah, and I have to believe and they keep sinking more money into it.
01:27:07And I just had someone message me said they thought they were with me for the last six years.
01:27:11Six years never matter face to face six years.
01:27:15You've got problems.
01:27:16Yeah, but I mean you want to be scam.
01:27:19No, there's no sympathy.
01:27:22Yeah, like we've had six Christmases.
01:27:23I've not seen you yet.
01:27:24Yeah, right.
01:27:25Exactly.
01:27:25I've not seen you at all.
01:27:27Six birthdays six.
01:27:28I mean, you know wild but even if it's how much money are we talking about by millions?
01:27:32Millions.
01:27:33I I've found out about that last $150,000 and you said in total.
01:27:38It's like millions.
01:27:38Oh millions and millions and millions a year and that's millions a year and that's just her.
01:27:44That's not including like Elsa Jean who's also and there's many other people in the industry.
01:27:48It's they can find, you know, obviously nude photos of these girls online so you can create an intimate relationship.
01:27:55Most of the people that they're going after or not.
01:27:58I look very girl next door every girl next door.
01:28:00You were saying earlier when they so it's I have an unlimited amount of nude content photos videos that you can use to pretend to have a relationship.
01:28:09Jesus when you put it like that, especially now that I'm shooting at home and I'm on my couch and I'm in my bed.
01:28:14And I'm not you know, because if the guy goes send me a picture of you drinking coffee, we can find easy but but send me some nudes even better.
01:28:22Yeah, and and if I get one I get 20 emails a week on, you know, you're not really with her.
01:28:27You stolen all her money.
01:28:28You better get it back.
01:28:28I'm going to call the police and I'm usually writing back on please.
01:28:31Please call the police.
01:28:31Please, please get them involved, please.
01:28:34But I mean, it's weird to say that it's gotten crazy.
01:28:36We we had a policeman show up at our door.
01:28:41Is it this true story?
01:28:42I'm out back like doing something and the person knocks on the door and they're like, hi.
01:28:46I have the Miami Police Department on the phone.
01:28:49We need to talk to you about your daughter.
01:28:51And so I freaked out.
01:28:53She that they met my daughter, his daughter, my real daughter.
01:28:55Yeah, and she was like, oh my God.
01:28:57I'm like, oh my God, Miami car accident, something horrible.
01:29:01The guy wanted to know about her three-year-old daughter.
01:29:03Well, we don't have any kids.
01:29:05Your three-year-old daughter's in danger.
01:29:06This is a police officer police.
01:29:08We're like, you're detectives detect help us out.
01:29:11You don't have any kids.
01:29:13Oh, well, we got this this call.
01:29:15I'm like you didn't think to like, why would somebody for five seconds and figure out that?
01:29:19I don't have any kids.
01:29:20Why would somebody do that?
01:29:21Well, are you sitting because we're going to tell you the story and you can see the poor police officer in our town is like going.
01:29:27Oh, I'm so sorry.
01:29:28Like he's looking at us like it's great.
01:29:29But that's I mean, we've dealt with this over and over and and she said repeatedly.
01:29:34She goes of all of the things that I expected in porn.
01:29:36This was not it.
01:29:37This was the this is by far the most difficult thing in porn that I was not prepared for and our biggest issue is we can't get any help.
01:29:47Now.
01:29:47We've we've contacted and talked to like the FBI and stuff.
01:29:50They are almost powerless because it's overseas.
01:29:53They can't really do anything, but we can't get the social media platforms to take the fake accounts down yet.
01:29:59They'll they'll knock her account down every six months.
01:30:01Well, because of the content.
01:30:03Yeah, but you've seen her content my page.
01:30:05This is it's well.
01:30:06Yeah, I do pretty I do a pretty like vanilla.
01:30:10Yeah, however, the fake pages will put up the wildest shit.
01:30:13They'll find the old scenes and put it up and we can't get them to take the counts down even though she's a verified account.
01:30:19We can't get them to take the accounts down.
01:30:21We're like, oh, there's no privacy aspect.
01:30:24When you join a social media platform, it would literally take them two seconds.
01:30:27They can probably write an AI script that looks into the DMS and seen as them asking for money from people and just wipe the account.
01:30:34That's all you have to do.
01:30:35Just wipe the account out.
01:30:36Nope, not a damn thing.
01:30:38Not help at all.
01:30:39And it screws a lot of people.
01:30:41There are a lot of people losing a lot of money and then we have to be worried about.
01:30:45I feel bad.
01:30:46Like I get it.
01:30:46It's a it's funny.
01:30:47It's like, oh, they're an idiot.
01:30:49They shouldn't have all for it.
01:30:49But there are people that just spend a couple hundred bucks here.
01:30:52Couple of bucks there.
01:30:53Maybe they think they're getting, you know, a scene of my maybe they think they're I don't know, but paying for me to go out and suck their dick.
01:30:59Whatever bullshit that's that lie.
01:31:01They sold but it's like it's I feel bad.
01:31:03It's like you fall for these scams and I'm trying to help.
01:31:06But I like I've seen you post repeatedly about this and you've tried to put the word out, but it's like just yeah.
01:31:12Yeah, and you know, it's and I know a lot of times she gets really upset because they are using her image to take money from people who can't afford to lose the money and it and it stings a bit and you know, you got to get a you get a little thick-skinned about it because we're like we have tried I can't even tell you like every podcast we start off.
01:31:30She'll she'll state the date and go.
01:31:31I'm still married to Vic and we still can't don't fall for scammers.
01:31:35It's literally in the bio of my Instagram.
01:31:36It says don't fall for scammers pretending to be me and I still get it and then they'll so I was like, okay at some point.
01:31:42I'm like I put up my hands.
01:31:43I'm like, I don't know what else to do.
01:31:45This is my full-time job.
01:31:46Like wow, it could be a full-time job and we talked to the years ago.
01:31:50Talk to guy from the FBI and he said, oh he goes if you think you you've got 10,000 he goes we have 10,000 a day.
01:31:57He goes it's constant and it's all usually coming out of West Africa and they have boiler rooms of people there and up on a bulletin board somewhere.
01:32:04It says everybody today is Elsa Jean and they all go out there and they have like a bunch of different things and it's all the same stories.
01:32:11My dad died.
01:32:12I'm stuck in Ghana.
01:32:13I'm going to nursing school.
01:32:14My husband beat me.
01:32:15It's all the same bullshit.
01:32:16That's a big one twin sister.
01:32:18That was my favorite twin sister.
01:32:20I don't have a twin sister for the record doesn't have any sibling important to say I don't feel like I should have to say that but now I feel like I do.
01:32:26I mean, this isn't an admirable thing.
01:32:28They're doing but on the one hand, I'm kind of like fucking all these guys are grinding.
01:32:32Oh my god.
01:32:33I know.
01:32:34They're the best profile.
01:32:36They're better profilers than the FBI.
01:32:37They know exactly which guys if I follow like if I make a friend and I follow them on my porn account on my own porn Instagram.
01:32:45They will instantly get like 30 fake Danny Daniels accounts that follows them that tries to like I'm not just saying this by the way, I've had 20 to 50.
01:32:56Yeah of your versions of you for and I've had DMS.
01:33:00It's all right.
01:33:00This is bullshit.
01:33:01Yeah, so weird and and the thing is is you're not even really the time I said to them.
01:33:05I'm not actually true.
01:33:06Jordan is twin brother.
01:33:08That's what you should do.
01:33:09If you send me $5,000 it's insane that you have to get to that point.
01:33:17You're not really the target a lot of times.
01:33:18What they'll do is they'll find you know, a guy who's a little bit older obviously looks like he's lonely or something and they'll look at their bio and God forbid.
01:33:25He commented because we've got them send it to us.
01:33:27They'll be like I saw you commented on my page and I thought you were really cute and now my comments are going to go down on Instagram.
01:33:33This is my this is my super secret page and we can chat here.
01:33:38Just don't tell my husband.
01:33:39It's like I think I'd be really good at picking those guys up.
01:33:43I know it's not a nice quality, but it's not a loser.
01:33:45Am I like and so can they and a lot of times these guys I mean, I feel bad a lot of times these guys are lonely and I've gotten messages and
01:33:55I'd probably say about 70 or 80% realize they got screwed and they're actually nice about 20% can get really your message.
01:34:01Oh God, your message in those but the woman you think is going to fly over the sea and you're like, so you're still with her then.
01:34:07Hey, by the way, I just want to know are you and Danny still together?
01:34:13Yes.
01:34:15Well, I've been getting this you're not talking to but she sent me these photos.
01:34:18I'm like dude, they're everywhere.
01:34:20Yeah, it's like you can get it.
01:34:22You can get them for a lot less than five grand.
01:34:24If you sign it to my only fans and the bizarre part too is it's like I almost want to type and go you knew you knew deep down you knew because you wouldn't have messaged me if you didn't realize that there was something going on.
01:34:36But and it's sad because of some of these guys like I feel bad for them.
01:34:39I really do they actually come back later on you find out I know they lost their wife or something happened and like they were just lonely guys who got preyed upon by you know scammers and I mean, it's just like
01:34:49Like they prey upon elderly with bank scams is the same bullshit going about the humiliation stuff.
01:34:54You mentioned earlier.
01:34:55I've heard about people who like the stick financial domination.
01:34:59Those are my other favorite.
01:35:03My other favorite financial domination love it.
01:35:07At least I love a man's wallet anytime.
01:35:10But at least those guys know what they're getting into.
01:35:12Right?
01:35:13I think I was unaware that I was actually in one of those relationships for quite a while.
01:35:16I didn't know it.
01:35:17Yes, but what the fuck like what kind of messages will those guys send you like what and what are they?
01:35:24What are they wanting?
01:35:25Because I don't obviously I've got no idea why a man would want that but I love it.
01:35:29It's like they want to buy me things.
01:35:31They want me to make a wish list and they want to buy me on what's on the wish list and they want me to have control of their wallet and decide, you know, how much play money they get, you know, if their paycheck is I don't know.
01:35:44I'm off top my head to $2,000.
01:35:46Okay.
01:35:46Well, I'm going to spend, you know, 1800 of it and figure out how to use the next, you know, two weeks on 200 bucks.
01:35:51So scary.
01:35:53Again, this is consent.
01:35:54This isn't me like taking a fan and trying to like screw him over.
01:35:57This is a fan coming to me and being like, I want you to control my wallet.
01:36:01I want you to dominate me financially.
01:36:02I'm like, whoo, say, oh, I love a dirty man.
01:36:07Because the reason this worries me is to me if someone said to me if some anyone came up, let's just say a woman on the shoes on the other side.
01:36:15I want you to find actually because that will be that'll be the fucking day.
01:36:20I'll never, never be a thing.
01:36:21Women will never, never, never.
01:36:22Yeah, no woman.
01:36:23That's just stupid enough.
01:36:24Yeah, but let's just say it happened.
01:36:27I'd be like, this bitch is crazy.
01:36:28I some people will like take credit card info or like debit card info.
01:36:34I won't because I just I'm like, it's just too much of a line for me.
01:36:39So I have a wish list and I just go to my wish list and buy me those shoes.
01:36:43Take me shopping.
01:36:44Like all like a little like, oh, like, you know, but spend this much money and I go shopping with it or buy me that.
01:36:49I want that for a scene or, you know, give me that new KitchenAid mixer.
01:36:52So I'll like make them they have to do it and that's just like my own personal like comfort.
01:36:58But I know I know plenty of Dominatrix's that'll be like, yeah, give me your credit card info.
01:37:03Good luck.
01:37:04That would scare me that I did.
01:37:07I don't know if these women are thinking along the lines.
01:37:09I am in terms of like consciously about the circumstances that we you're then putting that money in.
01:37:16But how do you but I'm not you're putting yourself in when they decide to record a credit card for it.
01:37:21I'm not face-to-face with this person and I don't know what is real circumstances.
01:37:24He might be playing a character just like I am.
01:37:27He might be like I have $500 to spend and I just wants, you know,
01:37:30I want to pretend it's my last $500 and I want her to like, you know,
01:37:34just, you know, degrade me and use me and not give me any attention.
01:37:38So I don't know and that's also why I like to use the wish list aspect
01:37:41because I feel like for them they are now in control.
01:37:44It's their choice that much like only fans, you know,
01:37:47you're paying for that excitement or whatever.
01:37:50Whereas if you give a woman your credit card deals and she just fuck.
01:37:52Yeah, like what if I just like swiped it for first of all,
01:37:54I feel like that's some sort of illegal something somewhere down the line somewhere.
01:37:58And then like if I just like go to and swipe his card for five grand,
01:38:01it's like I don't know what his actual say.
01:38:02I don't want to actually hurt this guy.
01:38:04I just want him to like enjoy it and get off on it and pay me for it.
01:38:07Like you think there's just I'm wondering at what point do they get off on it?
01:38:11Like do they like say the statement and be like, oh God,
01:38:16I think everyone's a little bit different.
01:38:18Yeah, that's so much money. How am I going to eat this week?
01:38:22But they're like one enough over that.
01:38:24But some guys too will like they like seeing me in what they bought.
01:38:29So like they enjoy like buying me the lingerie
01:38:32because I wear it in a scene and they and then they jerk off to it.
01:38:35That makes sense to it. So it's a pet. There's different.
01:38:37There's different. There's the same. I would do that.
01:38:39But yeah, I kind of it makes more sense than just looking at their screen
01:38:44and watching their bank balance kept annihilated.
01:38:46Yeah. I have a lot of guys are like,
01:38:49can I please give you my credit card info
01:38:51and I have to tell them no just from personal comfort.
01:38:53But yeah, that's a smart thing. Yeah.
01:38:56Yeah, I don't know. I just it's like I don't know.
01:38:59There's no safe word with like my shoe addictions.
01:39:01So, you know, if if let's say a woman who you happen to know came to you,
01:39:09let's say she's just working a normal job.
01:39:11I'm sure there might be a woman watching this right now.
01:39:13Who might be considering this what sort of reasons to do it
01:39:19and reasons to not do it would only fans would you think about only fans like,
01:39:23you know, do do it if you want to do for this reason.
01:39:26If it's for this do not do it. Like is there anything your first?
01:39:28I would say like, what do you want to do on only fans
01:39:30because you can you don't have to take your clothes off at all.
01:39:32You can just do domination.
01:39:34You can just like what we're saying you just do femdom you could you know,
01:39:40some of them don't take their clothes off.
01:39:41Yeah, depend. No, it depends on like some performers
01:39:43or they do like foot fetish though latex that maybe they just only do latex.
01:39:47Maybe they do just jerk off instruction roleplay dirty talk.
01:39:52So not everyone needs to get nude,
01:39:55but it's like if you go that route, okay.
01:39:56Well, why are you doing porn if you're going to go the porn route?
01:40:00Are you doing it because you enjoy it?
01:40:01Are you doing because you want to explore it?
01:40:03Okay. What is your current job? Is that going to affect it?
01:40:06Is our how are you going to feel when you're all of your family
01:40:09and your friends find out because they will absolutely.
01:40:12How are you going to feel if you know, it comes up in conversation
01:40:16because it will how are you going to feel like if you get judged blindly
01:40:18because you will and it's like I would love it if those things didn't exist,
01:40:22but they will because that's the reality of the situation of the world.
01:40:24We live in Riley Reid came out and spoke about how she just been basically disowned
01:40:29by most of her family happens a lot was brutal.
01:40:32Yeah watching it like it happens a lot.
01:40:34Unfortunately, it's like it's it's it's sad.
01:40:36It's there's a bizarre thing to where the family all of a sudden has a problem
01:40:40until they start making a lot of money and then they're fine with getting the money from.
01:40:44Yeah, she kind of said I don't know if you heard that bit.
01:40:46Yeah, I said her mother was on the take like I'm cool.
01:40:49If you're giving me some yeah, it's like wow.
01:40:52Yeah, that's really sad sad,
01:40:53but it happens a lot and friends and everyone finds out about it,
01:40:56you know when I first started doing and now it's a little bit different
01:40:58because only fans but they'll still find it.
01:41:01Everyone's like, oh, well, you know, you have to sign up.
01:41:03No, someone's going to find it.
01:41:04Someone's going to think it's hilarious and send it to all of your friends.
01:41:08That's such a good thing to point out because it is like that is the norm, right?
01:41:12Like that you become a pub story, you know something to laugh about.
01:41:17Oh and I started doing like mainstream porn
01:41:19and the people I went to high school with found out about it.
01:41:21My phone literally went like dink dink dink dink dink dink dink.
01:41:26Did it?
01:41:27Because you could just tell it's just like through the grapevine.
01:41:29Like if I found out someone I knew was doing porn,
01:41:31I would tell everybody about it because it was me,
01:41:32it would just be like, oh my god,
01:41:33did you hear about so-and-so like sucking dick good for her like,
01:41:37you know, so one of the main main things that's happening in America,
01:41:40especially right now is people in regular jobs are getting exposed.
01:41:45So we're talking nurses teachers
01:41:47and even someone who was running for office
01:41:50got exposed to being on a chatterbait with her fella.
01:41:53And she's trying to be a politician.
01:41:55She was quite a good-looking politician.
01:41:57But I mean, listen, politicians fuck you every day,
01:41:59so you might as well be on OnlyFans.
01:42:01It would be amazing if we lived in a world
01:42:04where you could do OnlyFans and these sites
01:42:07and still have your job of,
01:42:10but we don't live in that world.
01:42:12And I feel like people have had this fantasy in their head
01:42:14that, oh, I hate my job.
01:42:16Let's just say, I don't know, you work at a coffee shop.
01:42:19I hate my job at a coffee shop.
01:42:21I'm gonna do OnlyFans on this side.
01:42:22I'm gonna make a bunch of money
01:42:23and I'm gonna quit my job and be able to do OnlyFans.
01:42:25First of all, porn's not forever.
01:42:26So I hope you're saving the money
01:42:27and not just blowing it on Louis bags.
01:42:29Second of all, if it doesn't work out,
01:42:31you're gonna have to go back to that job
01:42:33if they'll even have you.
01:42:35Like when you find out about teachers doing OnlyFans,
01:42:37I'm like, you're working with kids
01:42:39and you're surprised you got fired from your job?
01:42:41Like this isn't the,
01:42:43we don't live in this fantasy land that you think.
01:42:46You're not gonna make as much money
01:42:48that you think you're gonna make
01:42:49unless you grind and hustle and work full.
01:42:53This isn't like a suck a dick for an hour
01:42:54and go home and have wine.
01:42:57Do you think that there's a direct correlation
01:42:59between the amount of money you make
01:43:02and the things you're willing to do?
01:43:04Yeah.
01:43:05Maybe.
01:43:06Yeah, well, I think a lot of the time for people,
01:43:09definitely.
01:43:10The porn stars that I have become familiar with
01:43:13are the ones who, you know, if you have a thing.
01:43:16Oh, are you saying like the aspect of like,
01:43:18oh, I'll do butt stuff for like five mil?
01:43:20Is it like that?
01:43:21Is it like putting a price tag on it?
01:43:22The women who seem to be higher up in these porn categories
01:43:26seem to be getting gang banged by 10 dudes.
01:43:29There's no limit with them girls.
01:43:31I haven't done a gang bang and I'm top 25.
01:43:33I mean, that is true.
01:43:34For a decade.
01:43:35But.
01:43:36But is that a rarity?
01:43:37It's very rare.
01:43:38Man, yes and no though.
01:43:39Because you have like Brandy's on there
01:43:41and she's never done butt stuff.
01:43:42Okay, so there's two.
01:43:43No, if you go through that top 25,
01:43:47you'll see it's more likely
01:43:49that there's one of every category.
01:43:51There's a skinny girl, there's a blonde girl,
01:43:52there's an African-American girl,
01:43:54there's an Asian girl, there's a girl next door.
01:43:57There's more likely to be that.
01:43:58And some of them have limits.
01:44:00They haven't gone over the edge.
01:44:02And then there are many people who go over the edge
01:44:04and can't crack in.
01:44:06Some of it has to do with a little bit of an X factor.
01:44:08Like, do you involve your fans
01:44:11in more than just your porn?
01:44:13Yeah.
01:44:13Because if you don't, you're gonna go up
01:44:15and the moment that they're bored with your porn,
01:44:17you're gonna go right back down.
01:44:18I think it's also, I did mainstream porn for six years.
01:44:21I was on browsers and I was a penthouse pet
01:44:24and I did all of these different mainstream sites.
01:44:27I didn't just start an OnlyFans and an Instagram
01:44:30with no following and start making millions of dollars
01:44:32a year.
01:44:33So I think that's the other dynamic.
01:44:35People always say like, oh my God,
01:44:36how'd you get so popular?
01:44:37I've been in this industry for 13 years,
01:44:41grinding for 13 years.
01:44:43You don't just like, you take your panties off
01:44:46and get instant fame.
01:44:48It doesn't work like that.
01:44:49Yeah, I think it's sold as that.
01:44:50And then when you talk about the X factor,
01:44:52there's also like, and I don't know if this is just me,
01:44:55but I think other dudes are like this as well.
01:44:57Sometimes the prettiest porn stars,
01:44:59you're a bit like, meh.
01:45:00But then there's ones with clear personality
01:45:03who are putting everything into it
01:45:04and they make you feel like
01:45:06almost you're in the room sort of thing, you know?
01:45:08And I think those girls definitely seem to do really well.
01:45:11I wanna ask you a little bit at the end now
01:45:13about the age gap between you.
01:45:15Cause I think that is quite an interesting thing
01:45:16to deal with.
01:45:17And what is the age gap?
01:45:2023 years.
01:45:21Okay.
01:45:22So you guys seem like clearly two peas in a pod.
01:45:25And I think anyone who's watched to this point
01:45:27will just get that.
01:45:27It's, you know, you're a double act.
01:45:30But do you think about the longterm
01:45:33and you know, like one day you will be on your own
01:45:36after this and how have you made peace with that?
01:45:38And how do you feel about that, the pair of you?
01:45:40We stick our head in the sand and pretend doesn't exist.
01:45:43Yeah.
01:45:44A little bit, a little bit.
01:45:44Yeah, a little bit in reality.
01:45:46Yeah, we do.
01:45:47We do have had some conversations about it
01:45:49and the running joke is she's gonna be stuck with my kids
01:45:51when she gets older.
01:45:53But yeah, I mean, we're literally the same distance
01:45:57that Lauren Bacall and Humphrey Bogart were.
01:45:59And you know, obviously he died young,
01:46:01but that was like one of the greatest
01:46:03Hollywood love stories of all time.
01:46:04And it helps that I'm juvenile and she's not.
01:46:07So we get much closer.
01:46:09We get in the middle.
01:46:10Yeah, much closer in age gap when she's an older soul
01:46:12and I'm basically a child in an adult's body, so.
01:46:15I guess it's one of those things where it's like,
01:46:16would you just tell someone, not be with someone
01:46:19because you're the fear of being alone?
01:46:20What if I die first?
01:46:22Yeah, that's not happening.
01:46:23God, I hope I die first.
01:46:24I don't wanna deal with that.
01:46:25That'd be, I'd be so sad.
01:46:26Like.
01:46:27Yeah, the reason I brought it up
01:46:29is when I was thinking about it,
01:46:31it's one of those awkward things to deal with in life.
01:46:34And a lot of couples do.
01:46:35I mean, like older guys with younger women
01:46:36is the most normal thing.
01:46:38But I just wondered if you'd given it much thought
01:46:41and if there was like, you know, if this happens,
01:46:43here's what we're gonna do or have you talked like that or.
01:46:46Yeah, we've talked about like estate planning
01:46:48and wills and that kind of thing.
01:46:50And I mean, I think you have to do that
01:46:51when you're with somebody for long enough,
01:46:53you have to kind of figure out like, hey, listen,
01:46:55you know, you never know what's gonna happen.
01:46:56You never know.
01:46:57Yeah, like what if something happens,
01:46:59you know, you never know.
01:46:59But I didn't even think about the age gap
01:47:03until people started bringing it up all the time.
01:47:06And then like, even now, I don't even think about it
01:47:08until these conversations come up.
01:47:09I'm like, oh yeah, like at some point, you know,
01:47:12but I would never trade it for anything.
01:47:13Oh, I'm not suggesting that at all.
01:47:15Yeah, but it is.
01:47:16It's clear that you wouldn't.
01:47:17Yeah, but no, it's just like, it's just like surreal.
01:47:19You're like, yeah, you know, someday, like.
01:47:21I just wondered if you.
01:47:22I just hope I go first.
01:47:24Let's say that you don't go first,
01:47:25which is obviously statistically more like,
01:47:27do you think you would, you know,
01:47:30you've had your marriage in your life
01:47:31and you'd be like, that was my great love of my life, right?
01:47:34But would you, do you think you'd go on
01:47:35and meet other people and just sort of.
01:47:37I don't think so.
01:47:38Or do you think you'd just be like, nah, that's it for me.
01:47:39No, I don't think so.
01:47:41Yeah, I mean, I don't even.
01:47:43Instead I'm going out, when you die,
01:47:44I'm just gonna go out and be like gang bangs every day.
01:47:46Just line them up, you know, I'm just kidding,
01:47:48I'm just kidding.
01:47:48Do you know how some husbands are like,
01:47:50I don't want you to go and be with other people
01:47:53and have company.
01:47:54Yeah.
01:47:55Or I do or whatever.
01:47:56Yeah, I wouldn't care.
01:47:57Like if I died, go out, go get some pussy.
01:47:59Like live your best life.
01:48:01I think I'm in the same boat as you.
01:48:03I don't think I would.
01:48:03I mean, I don't know.
01:48:04It's like, you don't know what life deals.
01:48:06Yeah, I had a relative years ago once told me
01:48:09death is certain, life is not.
01:48:11So go out and live, go out and live.
01:48:13And I took that to heart a long, long time ago.
01:48:16And I started realizing, man,
01:48:17if you go through life trying to figure out
01:48:19when you're gonna drop dead
01:48:20or when the next shoe is gonna drop,
01:48:22you're gonna drop dead, next shoe's gonna drop.
01:48:23That's just what's gonna happen.
01:48:25But if you go through life trying to live it,
01:48:27at least then you have something
01:48:28when it's all over and done with.
01:48:29You know, you can look back and go,
01:48:30that was a life worth living.
01:48:32Not a life that I wish I had done 5,000 other things.
01:48:36I learned really early on in life through a decision
01:48:39that the things you regret most in life
01:48:41are the things you don't do.
01:48:43You know, the things you do do is like,
01:48:45at least I gave it a shot.
01:48:46And this is like, you know, I'm older
01:48:48and I'm hoping I last for a very long time,
01:48:50but at least I've had this period of my life
01:48:52and it's the happiest time of my life, so.
01:48:55Wow.
01:48:55That's such a beautiful thing to say.
01:48:57I sucked his dick for that.
01:48:59And that.
01:49:00That was so beautiful.
01:49:01And you ruined it.
01:49:04All right.
01:49:06That genuinely was such a nice thing to hear.
01:49:08And it was probably one of the nicest things
01:49:09we've had said on this podcast.
01:49:10So well done, brother.
01:49:11Thank you.
01:49:12He's definitely getting laid.
01:49:14There's a poet in there.
01:49:16What a beautiful performance from you two.
01:49:17Thank you very much.
01:49:19Smashed it.
01:49:20That was once again, Danny Daniels and her husband,
01:49:22Vic Cipolla.
01:49:24Cipolla.
01:49:25There we go.
01:49:25On the True Geordie podcast.
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