Celtics signing Lonnie Walker IV could be the steal of the summer | You Got Boston w/ Noa Dalzell

Name: Celtics signing Lonnie Walker IV could be the steal of the summer | You Got Boston w/ Noa Dalzell
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00:00What's up, everyone? This is Noah Dalzell, and I'm here with a brand new episode of You

00:20Got Boston, a new Celtics podcast on CLNS, and here to react to the big news of the day,

00:27starting this very late on Wednesday night, so this will be out on Thursday, but the big

00:31news is that the Celtics have signed Lonnie Walker to an Exhibit 10 training camp deal,

00:37and this is not something that I was expecting. I think I pretty much assumed that the news

00:41would be all wrapped up as far as new off-season content in the coming weeks. Certainly expected

00:48that Lonnie Walker would get signed this summer, but thought that it would be for more than

00:52a training camp deal, so we'll talk about all of that today, about Lonnie Walker, about

00:56what he might bring to the Celtics team, how his Exhibit 10 contract works, and just

01:03what this could mean for Boston. I will start off by saying I could not be more high on

01:07Lonnie Walker the fourth. I'm sure you'll hear lots of different people's takes and

01:12perspectives, and there is obviously a reason why he hasn't been signed to this point. He's

01:16not a perfect player, but I think for what he is, which will be effectively the last

01:22roster spot if he gets that, I think the upside is really, really high. So we'll talk

01:27about all that today. We'll also talk a little bit about Drew Holiday. He did an event at

01:31Raising Canes that I was at alongside David Ortiz, just kind of talking about his relationship

01:37with the city, winning an Olympic gold medal, and just what his summer was like, because

01:42this is really our first time hearing from Drew since the championship experience, and

01:47so that was fun to just be able to chat with him today in downtown Boston. So all that

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02:16starting next month. Media Day for the Celtics is September 24th, so we're literally already

02:22less than a month away from Celtics Media Day, and then we'll be going, we'll have so

02:26much coverage, you'll get sick of it. So I'm really excited for the fact that this off

02:31season feels like it was so short. We had the championship, obviously, the finals. We

02:35had, you know, Vegas Summer League, the draft, all that. Just a couple of weeks here with

02:40a little bit less going on since the Olympics, and then we get this surprise signing late

02:45Wednesday night, and that's the Lonnie Walkers joining the team. And so I'll start off by

02:50just sharing my initial thoughts. So Lonnie Walker, he's 25 years old. He's been in the

02:55league for six years. He's been on the Spurs, the Lakers, and the Nets. He's somebody that

03:00is a clearly can have can be a very good score. He shot 38% from three last season for the

03:07Nets. For his career, he's averaging 9.8 points per game on 42.2% shooting. So he's never

03:15been super efficient. And I think that's maybe one of the knocks on him. But he's also

03:20somebody that can score when given the opportunity at eight games last year where he

03:23scored 20 plus points. He had 17 games at 15 plus points. And he started over 75 games in

03:30his career. So this is not your average exhibit 10 signing. And what an exhibit 10

03:36contract means is that it's a training camp deal. So he's going to compete for a training

03:40camp spot. If he doesn't make the team, but they send him to Maine, he gets a $77,000

03:46bonus. So he gets that opportunity, at least to be able to get some guaranteed money, but

03:53this is not a guaranteed contract. So at first when this news broke, Adrian Wozniacki from

03:59ESPN, originally shared that this was a one year contract, I assumed this was a veteran

04:03minimum one year deal. And then more information came out later. Shams Charani from

04:08Athletic talked a little bit more about what this contract actually was. And it's an

04:12exhibit 10. And it's not a contract that you would expect somebody of Lonnie Walker's

04:17stature, you know, somebody that is, you know, basically a double figure score on his

04:22career, who is not even in his prime, to have to settle for something like that. And to be

04:27honest with you, it's a little bit of a mystery to me why he was not able to get a bigger

04:30deal. I'm assuming that if he took this contract, he wasn't offered a veteran minimum

04:35elsewhere, unless he felt like where he was offered a veteran minimum, it wasn't a good

04:39place for him to grow. But the first thing that I want to say is that I think that the

04:44South, this is a reflection of the Celtics and kind of the championship culture, and just the

04:48culture in general that they've built for players. And I bring up Zvi Mihalic as a really

04:52good example of what playing for the Celtics can do for somebody because he is a guy who

04:58was barely in the rotation last year. He shot well when he checked in, and he was always

05:02ready to go. But for the most part, he was a stay ready guy, right? He was a guy sitting on

05:07the bench, a guy that really wasn't performing a whole lot. Certainly not in the rotation

05:11during the playoffs and not really during the regular season with some exceptions. And Zvi

05:15Mihalic just signed a four year $15 million contract with the Utah Jazz. And so it's a

05:22great data point. And it's a data point that the Celtics front office can point you to show,

05:25hey, you come here for a minimum deal. Zvi was a guy that, you know, I wasn't sure if he was

05:30going to be able to make it in the NBA much longer, kind of balancing around from team to

05:34team. Wins a championship, shows that he's a good locker room guy, probably gets rave reviews

05:39from everybody in the Celtics organization. I know that when I asked Brad Stevens about O'Shea,

05:44he brought up Zvi on his own accord, just wanting to bring up what a great guy he was and how he

05:49belongs in the NBA. And next thing you know, Zvi gets a $15 million contract, right? It's a

05:55kind of dream come true type of thing. And so Lonnie Walker maybe is looking at the Celtics

06:00as a stepping stone to getting that bigger deal. In one hand, you know, you can get that

06:05championship caliber or experience. You can be around these great players, learn from the best

06:10defenders in the game when it comes to guards between Drew Holiday, Derek White, and even

06:14Jalen Brown as a point of attack defender. But also, on the flip side of that, I'm surprised

06:20that he wanted to go somewhere where he is going to be so deep in the rotation. You know, you would

06:26think that there's somebody somewhere else that he can go and get a veteran minimum deal,

06:31a team like the Pistons or a team like the Hornets, and maybe actually get some minutes.

06:36But, you know, he hasn't really been able to find that home. And he's talked about wanting to get,

06:41find an organization where he can stay long term. And so far, it hasn't been any of the three teams

06:45that he's played for. You know, initially it was the Spurs for three seasons. He played for the

06:50Lakers. He played for the Nets. And he just hasn't been able to find a place that, you know, is his

06:55and somewhere that he can be for his career and decide that multi-year deal so that he's not just

07:00bouncing around from, you know, organization to organization, which is obviously not the ideal

07:05for any, any player. And so he lands in Boston and it's a training camp deal. And we're gonna,

07:11he's definitely going to be the talk of training camp. I was already thinking today, you know,

07:16this is going to be in a weird way, kind of a lackluster training camp in a sense,

07:20just because you literally have your entire team coming back from last year.

07:24And so you don't have like the new characters, the new people you want to meet, the new faces.

07:29Instead, you have a bunch of returners that you already know that you're going to ask them about

07:33repeating, right? But it's just an unusual circumstance. Now there's a guy who clearly

07:37there's going to be a lot of interest in talking to Lonnie Walker, getting a sense for why he chose

07:42Boston, what the situation, the setup is here. I don't know if there's an implicit promise or if

07:47there's an understanding that this is an exhibit 10, that's likely going to turn into the 15th

07:51roster spot, or this is just, he's one of the guys that's going to be battling for that spot.

07:55And the implication is that he's going to be in the G-League. I mean, I can't imagine him in the

08:00G-League at this point in his career, certainly would not have been my guest going into this

08:04off season that Lonnie Walker was heading to the G-League. But you just never know. I mean,

08:08sometimes things just don't shake out fairly, or, you know, some guys just make a couple of bad

08:13business decisions. Maybe he had an offer at one point that he turned down. I think about O'Shea

08:18Brissett. O'Shea Brissett had a player option to opt into the second year of his contract with

08:22the Celtics. He could be a Celtic right now on a minimum contract. And I don't know

08:26if he has those kinds of offers available right now, or if he could go back in time,

08:30if he would want to sign, wishes that he opted in, you know? So you just never know for some

08:35guys that works out. Like Sabit obviously worked out this year, and then you see guys sometimes go

08:38overseas and you're like, that guy couldn't make it. I remember talking to Jared Solinger earlier

08:42this year, and Jared Solinger was telling me, once you go overseas, you're kind of like out

08:47of the mix. And teams kind of view you as like, you're not really in the picture anymore. And he's

08:51a guy that chose to go overseas relatively early on. And that was kind of the end of his NBA career.

08:56And so I think for, you got to play your cards well, when you're one of those guys,

09:00that's not a star, not a guaranteed guy, not a lottery pick, but a guy that is kind of a

09:06mid-tier, you know, maybe you'll make it, maybe you'll have a really long career, maybe you won't.

09:10And so certainly that is, you know, Volodymyr Walker, he finds himself in this position that

09:16probably most of us didn't expect him to, and he ends up with Celtic. And I think for him,

09:22he's running an organization that is renowned. It is a championship caliber organization,

09:26obviously. And he's going to be playing alongside Hall of Famers, you know, between

09:30Drew Holliday, Al Horford, Jason Tatum, Jalen Brown, just some of the best players in the league

09:36and just guys that are experienced in so many different facets. So I'm sure from a mentorship

09:40standpoint, this team doesn't lack that. You know, you wonder on the rotation, say he does make the

09:45team, you know, which is my assumption. So he gets that 15th roster spot, signs the minimum DL

09:50off the training camp. You would expect him to be in the bench rotation, at least during the

09:55regular season. And he's a guy that you can count on for a basket, you know, he's a 9.8 point per

10:01game score in his career, right? And so you think that he's a guy that maybe plays alongside or

10:07competes for minutes with a Sam Hauser, maybe a guy like Jaden Springer, who I think some of you

10:13guys might know I'm pretty high on, maybe this bumps him back a little bit. Just because Lonnie

10:18Walker is a more refined offensive talent, at least or at least that's the understanding right

10:22now. I think Jaden Springer hasn't had that many rotation minutes to really know what the situation

10:27is for him on the court. But I don't think Lonnie Walker is going to spend a lot of time in the

10:31G League at this point. So my prediction at this point from what we know, and obviously things can

10:36change really quickly here is that he goes to training camp he impresses because he's an

10:40impressive player and they sign him to that minimum last call, you know, contract spot,

10:45and then he is in the rotation. Honestly, that's what I think will happen. I'm really high on

10:50Lonnie Walker. I think if you immediately if you're, you know, depending on how closely followed

10:54NBA may or may not have heard of him or remembered his name right away when you heard the signing.

11:00And the first thing that I think about when I think about Lonnie Walker is the Lonnie Walker

11:04game in the 2023 postseason. He was a member of the Lakers and in game four of the Western

11:11Conference semifinals, Lakers Warriors, Lonnie Walker, who had pretty much fallen out of the

11:15rotation, checks in and scores 15 fourth quarter points, six of nine from the field. One of those

11:22like all time performances where you just you just get chills watching because you see a guy who

11:27is, you know, on the fringe of in and out of the rotation and out of the league,

11:31dealt with a fair share of injuries and adversity. And he's been open on a lot of

11:35other issues that we can get into another time, but comes in and just has this masterful fourth

11:40quarter is the TNT interview, you can just tell that he's kind of pitching himself the whole time.

11:44And I thought that was gonna be a breakthrough moment for Lonnie Walker. And that

11:47last year on the nets, I thought he was going to be one of the primary options. And he wasn't that.

11:53And so you wonder if there's something about him that maybe we are not aware of, you know,

11:58we the media, you know, fans, people that just follow the league. It's certainly something that

12:03I'll be talking to people over the coming days and getting a sense of if there is some sort of

12:09red flag or something that we're not, you know, maybe is not being taken into account when we're

12:13evaluating Lonnie Walker as a player, because I know there were a lot of other NBA players have

12:17spoken out about like, this is weird that he didn't get signed yet. NBA Central posted it

12:22literally today. So I thought that was ironic that the day that there's a Lonnie Walker highlight

12:28being passed around on Twitter of like, who's going to sign this guy that's helping sign him.

12:33And so, so yeah, you know, this is not what I expected. But I think this is going to go down

12:39as a really good signing. I think Brad Stevenson has done it again. Because even if it doesn't

12:43work out, you didn't really lose much. And if it does work out, you might have like a real

12:48rotation piece, a real, a really good bench player in the mix and a young guy that's just not even in

12:54his prime yet. I think this is going to work. I got a good feeling about this. I've been a long

12:59time fan of his, I feel a little bit like I felt when Drew Holliday signed, but like, obviously,

13:03to a much lower extent, but just the guy that I've really taken a liking to a guy that I've

13:07really liked his game, like the way he conducts himself, the way he talks, the way he, you know,

13:12addresses the media and all that the way he just kind of carries himself and his work ethic and

13:16everything and everything that I've seen from Lonnie Walker. Over the last few years, I've

13:19really liked I was looking forward to following his career this year, regardless of where he

13:23landed. And I got the most notification, clicked on it, saw it said the Celtics, I was like, no way,

13:29like, how is this possible? How do they keep doing this? How does the lead let them get away

13:34with this getting the obviously the, you know, the guy that was the biggest name still available

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14:41Another kind of fun fact that I saw about him today is that he's a career 59% shooter against

14:46Boston so follows the the long time habit the Celtics front office has of signing players that

14:52are quote unquote Celtics killers players that have really excelled and played very well against

14:57Boston over the years and O'Shea Bercet's an example of a guy that had six threes when he was

15:02on the Pacers against the Celtics. So O'Shea is certainly an example of that of a guy that,

15:07you know, maybe the front office notices him and they they keep tabs on those players. And Lonnie

15:13Walker's a guy that's played really well against Boston. Part of why I have a high impression of

15:18him, although really the that Lakers game, the Lonnie Walker game is the one that really stands

15:23out to me when I think about what he's capable of. And obviously it's just one quarter. You don't

15:27want to draw even generalizations about a player from that, but really exciting. So that's my

15:33initial impression on Lonnie Walker. I guess just to sum it all up, I couldn't be more excited about

15:39August 28. This is the notification that you get after a summer where you already

15:43signed your entire team on the heels of winning the NBA championship. And now you get this really

15:48promising guy to add to the bench mix. And this is a bench that was always a really good Celtics

15:53plus minus bench. Like, you know, when we talked about the Celtics bench, they were outscoring

15:58opposing teams benches. They were very effective defensively, but they were a low scoring unit.

16:02So it was more just that they were effective on the court, more as complimentary pieces.

16:06You didn't have many shot creators, Pritchard at times, Hauser at times, but more catch and

16:12shoot. And Lonnie Walker might change that, might bring a dynamic that they were missing.

16:16The question with him is defensively, that's been where he's been a little bit inconsistent. And I

16:20would imagine that a training camp, what they're going to be looking for is if he can

16:23kind of grasp the Celtics defensive system, because if he can't, there you go. It's not

16:29going to work out for him in Boston. So hopefully he can, hopefully he is able to figure this out

16:33and to kind of show the Celtics coaches that he's a guy that they want to invest in and work with.

16:39And he sticks around and that he helps contribute the team in their pursuit of banner 19.

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18:44So that's it on Lonnie Walker. The other thing I wanted to touch on today in today's episode of You

18:49Buy Boston is Drew Holiday because was at an event at Raising Canes in downtown Boston today. And it

18:56was a sort of grand opening. It was called the Golden Birthday of Raising Canes. It's the 28th

19:02birthday on August 28. And it was also the 828th franchise. So whole lot of excitement around that

19:09for the restaurant chain. Obviously, Raising Canes does a lot of stuff with athletes. I actually

19:14don't know how they managed to do that, how they managed to sign so many players to come and serve

19:19chicken. And Al Horford did it in the summer as well right after they won the championship. But

19:23basically, Drew Holiday was at Raising Canes, as was David Ortiz, Red Sox legend doesn't need any

19:30introduction. And also the artist Jake. I don't know if you guys know him, how much you follow

19:36that type of music. But Jake has a famous song called golden hour, he kind of blew up on TikTok.

19:40So they have this big event in downtown Boston, bunch of media there a bunch of fans. It was like

19:44early in the morning, it was a ribbon cutting the entire restaurant is like gold covered right now.

19:49And Drew Holiday was kind of the main attraction. He was there filming some commercials and content.

19:54And I posted some of my some stuff on Twitter. So if you're curious, you can check that out.

19:59My Twitter handle is at Noah Dalzell. So follow there. But we then had a little bit of a press

20:04conference with Drew Holiday, which was a lot of fun because I haven't had the chance to ask him

20:08any questions since literally the night they won the championship. So it's been a while.

20:13And I'll just talk briefly about some of the things that stuck out to me from our conversation

20:16with Drew. I asked him about what it's been like walking around the city since winning the

20:21championship versus how it was beforehand. And yeah, I love this quote. He said, before winning,

20:26I could go places like any kind of fun walking around. And then like now it's just he gets stopped

20:31all the time. And that's what you hope, right? As a player, you want to be the guy that you're so

20:36beloved in the city where you play and usually a championship is what delivers that. And I remember

20:40before the Celtics won the championship, Jason Tatum talked about how he already receives so

20:45much love walking around the city of Boston. And he basically said, you know, I can't wait for what

20:49that will feel like once I help bring a title to the city. And now they've done that. And I think

20:55that none of those guys, none of the members of that title team will ever be received the same

20:59in the city. Probably will never have to pay for a meal, will probably be stopped for photos and

21:04autographs everywhere they go for the rest of time, really. I mean, I saw the way that David Ortiz

21:08was received. Obviously, he's a pretty unique legend in his own right. But that's just the way

21:14that it goes when you help deliver a championship to a city that loves sports as much as Boston does.

21:19So, you know, Drew was asked a couple of things that stuck out to me. Drew was asked about

21:24the Olympics really reflected on what a great experience that was. Mentioned Devin Booker and

21:29Steph Curry as two players that were just really easy to play with. Guys that he was able to easily

21:34develop chemistry with. He mentioned Anthony Edwards as the biggest trash talker on the Olympic team.

21:39Probably doesn't come as a surprise to most of you. And then the other thing was that he was

21:45asked to compare the gold medal and then the championship, which is never a bad problem to

21:50have that you're being asked to compare probably the two greatest, I mean, the two greatest feats

21:54that an basketball player can achieve. He achieved them two months apart. And he said that winning in

21:59Paris was awesome. It was very unique, especially because it was against France in France. So he

22:04said it was kind of like an us against the world type of thing. But he did say winning here was

22:11amazing. I'm not sure anything tops that. So it does sound like the championship trophy, you know,

22:17the championship hoisting, I guess. Yeah, I guess the trophy was hoisted. I'm recording this at

22:221 a.m. So apologies. But he was he did kind of discuss just like the parade was so crazy.

22:28The whole thing was so overwhelming that he's still kind of riding a high from all of that.

22:32So it was great to hear from Drew. He was a usual friendly, good mood, just reflecting

22:37on what a summer it's been for him and for Derek White and for Jason Tatum as well.

22:43Drew was asked about Tatum's DNPs and whether he talked to him about that. And he said,

22:49you know, Tatum is fine. He's a professional. You know, he wasn't worried about all that. So

22:53kind of the standard PR answer that you would expect from Drew Holiday. And I think that'll be

22:57the standard answer in general, because I'm sure during media day and training camp week,

23:03there's going to be a whole lot of questions about, you know, Tatum Olympic experience,

23:08Jalen Brown's Olympic experience. And I think we're going to get a whole lot of PR

23:12and probably just people saying the right thing and making it a non story, which I think ultimately

23:16will have to be a non story because it's going to be, you know, months after the fact. And,

23:21you know, ultimately not the team, the Olympic team is not the team that we're here to talk

23:25about. Right. So we'll see about all that. But that was that was Drew Holiday's response.

23:30And then Holiday was also asked about re-signing the entire roster. And he said, I think it's

23:34going to help a lot. It's always hard to win one, but to win back to back is even harder.

23:38So I think just kind of getting a head start on other teams where we have the continuity.

23:43So he is high on the fact that something's brought everybody back. Again, this was a couple of hours

23:48before the Lonnie Walker signing was announced. So we didn't get to ask Drew about that. But

23:53in a couple of weeks, the whole group will be back together and we'll be able to talk to

23:56Drew, to Lonnie Walker, hopefully, and to the rest of the team. So I have a story on Celtics

24:02blog about the Drew Holiday event. And including it was funny when Drew Holiday was answering my

24:09question about kind of how he's been received in Boston. David Ortiz walked in and interrupted him

24:14and they embraced in the middle. And it was just very cool just to hear David Ortiz talking about

24:18what it was like for him to follow the Celtics throughout the playoff run. He said, like,

24:22I'm a Celtic, I cry, I scream. Holiday said, like, I can vouch for that. So I think those

24:28two have a little bit more of a friendship than I would have known. But Ortiz also said that it

24:33was just really cool to see Al Horford win a championship. Al Horford became the first

24:37Dominican athlete to win an NBA title. So super cool on that front. And he said, so that made the

24:45experience even more special for him. So all in all, it was a really cool event. Lots of posts

24:50and videos and quotes on my Twitter. So if you want more coverage from that event, you can

24:55check it out as though you're there. Also have a story, as I mentioned, on Celtics blog.

24:59And then we'll have more Lonnie Walker coverage analysis. I'm sure we'll discuss it all as a

25:04group as well. But for now, I just wanted to put out my initial thoughts. I think it's going to be

25:09one of those moves where one day we're going to go back and say, how did Rads even get this done?

25:14And nobody's going to really know. And the same way that we look now at the Derek White trade,

25:18obviously to a lower extent, I don't think the ceiling is quite as high, but there's just no

25:22risk. So you got to give Rads kudos for continuing to make good moves one after the other. So I'm

25:30really excited about it. We'll have more coming up soon. For now, please subscribe. You Got Boston

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