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Friday Night Live 30 August 2024

In this episode, I explore the "noble savage" myth, tracing its origins and effects on modern society. I align this concept with the narrative of original sin, emphasizing personal responsibility amidst societal narratives that often evade accountability. The discussion highlights how nostalgia shapes our perception of the past versus our present complexities, revealing a yearning that can lead to anxiety when paired with avoidance of responsibility. I delve into the warrior and trader archetypes, examining their interplay throughout history and the ramifications of technological advancements on traditional roles. The conversation also addresses economic challenges, particularly focusing on educational debt and gender expectations, reinforcing the importance of understanding personal choices within systemic frameworks. I conclude by urging listeners to confront uncomfortable truths about their roles in society and the implications of the narratives they uphold.

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Transcript
00:00:00Hey, welcome to a Friday Night Live, almost the end of the month, 30th of August 2024.
00:00:06If you missed the pre-show, you listened to a rousing late 50s rendition of Oasis' Don't
00:00:11Look Back in Anger.
00:00:12I saw a documentary on them some years ago and Liam, the singer, had no interest in music
00:00:17until he got hit in the head with a baseball bat and then discovered he could sing and
00:00:20hold a note.
00:00:21Actually, a really talented vocalist, not, I mean, obviously the greatest, most mercurial
00:00:25voice in the world, but when his brother, Noel, who's basically the songwriter, I didn't
00:00:34realize he did the vocal song Look Back in Anger, he's not a bad singer actually, but
00:00:39he played it once or twice and then Liam just, you know, got it and went all the way with
00:00:43it and so on, but yeah, you know, British Brothers, I mean, I could write a whole novel
00:00:50about British Brothers.
00:00:51Oh wait, I did.
00:00:52It's called Almost at almostnovel.com, almostnovel.com, almostnovel.com, you should check it out.
00:01:00It's a free novel.
00:01:01Really, really, really great stuff.
00:01:03I didn't get a haircut.
00:01:05I didn't get a haircut.
00:01:07I got them all cut.
00:01:08That's right.
00:01:09Can't do much about the top, but it's nice when they trim your ears so you can hear again.
00:01:14So hello, hello.
00:01:16Hope you're doing well.
00:01:19Questions, comments, issues, challenges, problems, whatever is on your mind, freedomain.com
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00:01:27And welcome, welcome to everyone.
00:01:29If you haven't been here for a while, well, it's just great.
00:01:32And I'm thrilled to have you here.
00:01:35And let's get to your, do we have any questions yet?
00:01:37Otherwise, I will talk about things that I have on my mind.
00:01:42Somebody says, I live in an extremely rural area and need to move to a city to improve
00:01:46my dating opportunities.
00:01:47What U.S. cities do you and chat recommend?
00:01:50I couldn't, I mean, not only have I not gone to U.S. cities much, but I haven't been in
00:01:59the dating market since men were men and women were women.
00:02:05So it's been a while.
00:02:07It's been a while.
00:02:08All right.
00:02:09Where does the idea of the noble savage come from?
00:02:11Why is there so much obsession with exonerating native and primitive cultures?
00:02:16It's a great question.
00:02:20So the noble savage is a secular version of the Garden of Eden myth.
00:02:34So when you have a religious mindset, you have a great challenge, which is explaining
00:02:39the problem of evil.
00:02:42Because if God created the world and God created people, why is there evil?
00:02:47So the way that most religions handle it is they say, well, we were born perfect, but
00:02:54we were tempted and fell from grace.
00:02:56And that's original sin.
00:02:57And that's Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden.
00:03:00And why are you naked?
00:03:01And hey, man, that woman you made me told me to eat the tree, so it ain't me, man.
00:03:08Adam was punished not for eating the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
00:03:13Adam was punished for blaming Eve and God, right?
00:03:16That you are punished most in this life for that which you take no responsibility for.
00:03:20You are punished most in that life for that which you take no responsibility for.
00:03:24Which is why I, to a fault, take an excess of responsibility.
00:03:29I'm like a diabetic with cheesecake.
00:03:31More is better.
00:03:32Or a pre-diabetic with cheesecake, perhaps.
00:03:34So for me, more responsibility is always better because I have studied my book of Genesis
00:03:40and know that the fundamental punishment was meted out not for disobeying God, but for
00:03:46lying about it, taking no responsibility, blaming God, the snake, Eve, his fig leaf,
00:03:52his left nipple, anything but his own consciousness.
00:03:54And if he had taken responsibility, he wouldn't have been cast out of the garden and cursed
00:03:58as Eve was.
00:04:00With work for the men and childbirth for the women and a flaming sword was put in this
00:04:06way.
00:04:07And we are cast out of Eden, the Eden of personal responsibility, when we don't take responsibility.
00:04:11We are given this amazing gift of self-ownership and the degree to which we cast it aside for
00:04:16the sake of avoiding responsibility slash blame is the degree to which our lives get
00:04:21worse and worse over time.
00:04:24Avoiding responsibility is like this drug.
00:04:26It's a drug.
00:04:27It's a drug.
00:04:28It gives you an immediate high.
00:04:29Whoo!
00:04:30Dodge that bullet.
00:04:31So you dodge the bullet, but die of slow environmental lead poisoning as you avoid your own self-responsibility,
00:04:37as I do from time to time as well.
00:04:39So the noble savage is the question, well, why is there evil?
00:04:48And the idea is, of course, that back in the day we were good and now we're bad.
00:04:53Back in the day we were good and now we're bad.
00:04:56There's a lot of reasons why people believe in this sort of stuff.
00:05:04Children get increasingly blamed as they get older and in the teenage years a lot of teenagers
00:05:08look back and say, and parents do too, oh, you were so great and cute and wonderful and
00:05:13lovely when you were little and I don't know what happened and things just got worse.
00:05:16So there's a Garden of Eden for most people which is like the crib where they're not beaten
00:05:20usually and early toddlerhood where they're hugged and things are more cute and then when
00:05:24they become smelly, defiant, rebellious, skeptical teenagers, apparently I'm still
00:05:30in my teenage phase, but there is a sense that back in the past, way back there, it
00:05:38was better, happier, nicer, warmer and nostalgia, right, nostalgia, all the things that you
00:05:43left behind, all the pleasures you refused to take for worry have you nostalgic for the
00:05:49loss in the past of the happiness you could have had if you'd taken responsibility and
00:05:54therefore worried less, right.
00:05:56One of the prices of not taking responsibility for your life is anxiety because if you're
00:06:01not in control of your life, if you're prey to circumstances and convulsions and other
00:06:07people's propaganda and someone, if you are kind of an NPC programmed by the mainstream
00:06:12corruptors, well, you're going to have a lot of anxiety.
00:06:16The opposite of anxiety is self-ownership, is self-responsibility.
00:06:21So those people who are less intelligent and more prone to violence, so there's a sweet
00:06:32spot, I talked about this many years ago with Dr. Kevin Beaver, there's a sort of sweet
00:06:37spot at about IQ 85 where you have highest levels of criminality as a whole, lower than
00:06:47that, it tends to slide away, higher than that, you tend to be more, it's more beneficial
00:06:51to you to participate in the free market and so on.
00:06:54So the noble savage as well has a lot to do with, see, there are two gene sets, right?
00:07:01There's violence and there's thought and it's not all genetic and all of that, but there's
00:07:05warrior genes and so on.
00:07:06So the people, and we don't even have to say it's genetic, we can just say that it's temperament
00:07:12or preference or choice or whatever it is, but there are people who are more suited to
00:07:18a violent, lawless society and there are some people who are suited for a more civilized,
00:07:26restrained, anti-violence, conceptual, idea-based, trade-based society.
00:07:31It's the old tension between Rome and Carthage, between the warriors and the traders.
00:07:37Now the traders need the warriors to enforce the law and the warriors need the traders
00:07:40to supply them with weapons, but in society you tend to see this pendulum that goes back
00:07:44and forth between the traders, 19th century was a time of traders and the 20th century
00:07:49was a war between the traders and the warriors, and it looks like the warriors, those who
00:07:53want to use force to get resources rather than production and trade, the warriors are
00:07:58winning out.
00:07:59That's W-A, not W-O.
00:08:02So when you have, and this is really only going to accelerate with AI, I was reading
00:08:07this statement the other day by somebody, it kind of blew my mind.
00:08:12So as you probably remember from my vague references to my pre-public philosopher career,
00:08:21my first programming job was in a trading house, a stock trading company, and I worked
00:08:25on some very complex haircut and trading programs in Algos, which actually helped me quite a
00:08:30bit when it came to Bitcoin, but in that you had a lot of people, and you see the scene
00:08:37in I guess Wolf of Wall Street, it's an old scene with John C. McGinley, we've got Nicks
00:08:45and we've got Chicks from Wall Street, where you've got people trying to sell crap stocks
00:08:51to old age people, pensioners, people who don't know any better, man, this stock's going
00:08:56to go to the moon, let me put you down for 100 shares, it's going to go to the moon,
00:08:59and it's all, I mean I used to get these guys calling me up when I was high up in the software
00:09:04field because, you know, they would go and find, or maybe it was automated back then,
00:09:08you'd just find people online who might have some cash and just run, let's see, phone them,
00:09:12I remember a guy from Xerox trying to sell me a wireless printer for like two months
00:09:15and I kept saying no, but they just call you up and, hey man, you know, it's now or never,
00:09:20and they just try and greed and fear you to FUD and greed you into buying their crap stocks,
00:09:28and of course you'd say, well, if these stocks are so great, why don't you buy, why don't
00:09:33you just phone some stranger, right? Just phone some stranger. I mean to be like, you find a
00:09:38winning lottery ticket, you know, like it's a half a million dollar winning lottery ticket,
00:09:42the first thing you do is phone up strangers and offer them something, it didn't make any
00:09:46sense, right? So, in all, I mean, in general, I believe, obviously, I believe it's just a general
00:09:50pump and dump, you get a bunch of people that will buy the shares, you dump yours and everyone
00:09:54else is left holding the bag and so on. So, there is an AI program now that can do these calls.
00:10:05It will phone people, it will try to sell them the stock based upon, they've recorded, I assume,
00:10:10a whole bunch of things, they got a whole bunch of scripts and they've all fed it in,
00:10:13and people can't tell the AI from the person. And if you were a trader trying to sell these stocks,
00:10:20I guess this was like your, you know, here's your call list, thank you for the tip, here's
00:10:24your call list, go sell these stocks, go pump these stocks, and you might get a hundred of
00:10:29those done in a day, maybe. I mean, Glengarry Glen Ross stuff, right? Now, now take off your shirt.
00:10:40You know, I'm not quite at the place where I'll take off my shirt for 20 bucks.
00:10:45I'm not the opposite of that, but I'm not quite there yet, but I do appreciate your support.
00:10:50So, there was an AI that can do not a hundred of these a day, but 30,000 of them a day.
00:10:58It can do 30,000, just massive dial, it's all running, you're just trying to get people to
00:11:02sell these shares, to buy these stocks, right? And you can get the AI to do 30,000 of these calls,
00:11:09it's wild. So, let's just say there are the warriors, and there are the traders,
00:11:18right? The producers, and the violent ones, right? The thugs and the merchants, so to speak.
00:11:27So, when you get a technological society, when you get a free market society, when you get a free
00:11:34trade society, when you get a capitalist society, nerds tend to do quite well. Nerds tend to do
00:11:41quite well. I say this, of course, as a bit of a nerd myself, right? So, we tend to do quite well,
00:11:47because we're very creative, we're very productive. I just watched a great Canadian film,
00:11:51it actually gave me PTSD, it's a great Canadian film called Blackberry, about what not to eat in
00:11:56the wild. No, it's about the rise, and I guess not total fall, but it went down from 20% of the
00:12:01cell phone market to less than one, over a sort of five to seven to nine year period. Blackberry,
00:12:07which was called Blackberry back in the day, was one of the first cell phones. And I was watching
00:12:12this movie about the rise and fall of this Canadian company. Maybe they'll make one about
00:12:18Nortel as well. So, Blackberry, just a bunch of nerds, and amazing nerds, and very productive
00:12:26nerds, and fantastic nerds, and so on. But, you know, they had the social skills of your average
00:12:33hamster. And I remember that, you know, the reason I got PTSD is you had a bunch of salespeople out
00:12:39there overselling the software, then handing the massive sales to the tech team to try and figure
00:12:45out. And the annoying thing is, the annoying thing is, it kind of works. It kind of works.
00:12:50When you, I was, I remember I had a salesman way back in the day who sold, oh yeah, we totally
00:12:55integrate to all your Java executables, all your Java business rule layers, right? So, there's the
00:13:01interface layer, there's the business layer, and then there's the database layer. And I did figure
00:13:05out a way to get ASP.net back in the 90s to interact with Java and see if there were any
00:13:10business layers to be executed before the data was saved to the database, but only because the
00:13:15salesperson said we could already do it and then handed that problem to me. And the annoying thing
00:13:18is, you're kind of cornered, and it kind of works. A lot of, you know, fake it till you make it. It's
00:13:25like, sell it till somebody codes it. Sell it and then hand it over and say, hey man, the sale's
00:13:30already be done. This is what we contractually obligated to do, and then you figure out a way
00:13:34to do it. I hate that it works, but it sure as heck does. So, I got PTSD from watching that
00:13:40movie. But yes, it was a bunch of people who couldn't bench press two jugs of Clorox,
00:13:47and apparently their hairstyle was, you know, forward floppy man bangs and those 80s headbands
00:13:57for the workout Richard Simmons, let's get physicals kind of stuff.
00:14:01And so, you've got the nerds and you've got the warriors. And when you get a technological
00:14:06society, power, wealth, resources, influence all shifts to the traders, to the producers,
00:14:11to the capitalists, to the whoever, right? The people on the market side. And what happens is,
00:14:18the people who are really good at bloodshed, the people who are really good at violence,
00:14:23well, they're unhappy. They're sad. Because if you're a producer in a time of violence,
00:14:32you just get your stuff stolen, right? You spend all winter and all spring getting your crops
00:14:39going and then the Cossacks or the Mongols, whoever, just come and take your shit, right?
00:14:46And so, in a time of violence, the producers are slaves to the warriors. I mean, can you imagine
00:14:56back in Egypt? Boy, back in Egypt, you had to pay 20% of your income to the Pharaoh. I mean,
00:15:03can you even conceive of a tax rate of 20%? I mean, slaves had to pay between 15 and 20%
00:15:12of their output, but they got to keep 80 to 85% of their output. I mean, that's just astonishing,
00:15:20just how appalling and surf-like those conditions are. I just need a moment. It's pretty appalling.
00:15:28So, in a time of bloodshed, what's the old quote? Why are you quoting laws to men with swords,
00:15:36to just do what they want, right? So, in a time of bloodshed,
00:15:41the producer produces the slaves to the warriors. But in a time of free market, the
00:15:50warriors are slaves to the producers. In other words, you look at Mark Zuckerberg,
00:15:54goes for a run. He's got 19 security guards all around him. They make nothing relative to
00:15:59his income, and you hire your private security, you hire your security guards,
00:16:05and so the warriors are, in a sense, the serfs or the paid muscle for the capitalists, right?
00:16:15And so, when society swings to the market side of things, the voluntary free trade side of things,
00:16:22there's this... The producers look back at the savage times, at the dark ages,
00:16:30and with a shudder, right? This is Hobbes' famous observation that, you know,
00:16:34nature red in tooth and claw, in the absence of a protective private property in violence opposing,
00:16:39private property protecting in violence opposing state, nature red in tooth and claw,
00:16:43life in a state of nature is violent, nasty, brutish, bloody, and short.
00:16:49There's horror. The intellectuals, to some degree, and the capitalists. So, they look back in horror.
00:17:00Some of the intellectuals. We'll get to that in a sec. But the problem is, or at least one of the
00:17:05reasons why this state of nature exists, is there are people who really miss the violence. Why do
00:17:09they really miss the violence? Because they're really good at it, right? They're really, really
00:17:14good at the violence. I mean, I know this personally. Of course, I've chosen to give
00:17:23speeches with bomb threats and death threats and all kinds of violence targeted at me and others.
00:17:31You know, when I was in Australia, I was being hunted through the streets by leftists and it's
00:17:38all very exciting and so on. And so, there are people who are much better at violence than I am,
00:17:46obviously, right? And so, in society, there is a lot of nostalgia for the state of nature,
00:17:59which is the noble savage. Oh, it was so great back then. A man could hunt. A man could live
00:18:05in caves and eat skins. And, you know, the speech of skinning the deer and hanging them out to dry
00:18:14under the shadows of the Empire State Building that comes out of Fight Club. You know, this
00:18:18nostalgia. And of course, I write about this quite a bit in my novel, The Future, which you should
00:18:23absolutely get a hold of. It's free. freedomain.com slash books. So, there's this nostalgia and we've
00:18:29all felt it. Haven't we? Haven't we all felt this desire to live simply, hard work, sword play,
00:18:41if necessary, blacksmith, ting ting, war, battle, not having these bureaucratic nooses slowly tighten
00:18:49around your balls, sphincter and carotid arteries, your jugular slowly clogged up at the million
00:18:56dusty men in gray flannel suit, bureaucratic, slow, dredging constipation of all that should
00:19:03pass for adrenaline and cortisol and action in human society. I'd love to build a log cabin.
00:19:13You're going to need a permit. And this is too close to that. And you don't have enough this.
00:19:17And you've got to have this kind of drainage. Oh, God, forget it. Oh, forget it. Oh, forget it.
00:19:27Well, I guess it's bunky life for me. So, you want to do anything and it's paperwork. I remember
00:19:33talking to a guy who was building a house and he was saying, oh, yeah, no, they keep coming out here
00:19:37and they keep nagging me about this and that. I get scared to get paper, like 20 sheets high of
00:19:41everything that needs to change. And you can't do anything. You can't do anything without political
00:19:50connections. So, this idea that, and I wrote about this again later on in my novel, The Present,
00:19:58which you should also get a hold of. It doesn't matter which one you read first. But The Present
00:20:03is also my yearning for that. Don't you have that yearning? Hit me with a why if you've had
00:20:10that yearning to live in a simple, simple, thatched cottage in the middle of nowhere
00:20:15with your own livestock, a solid, practical wife, no high heels, no makeup, no gel,
00:20:29just simple rough clothes, good hard work, a solid night's sleep, and the smell of nature
00:20:37in your sinuses. Because I lived that life. I lived that life. I worked in the bush for well
00:20:45over a year. Simple, clean, hard work, fresh air, exercise, sunlight, animals.
00:20:57I wasn't a hunter.
00:20:59But the work was hard. The muscles hummed. There was a roaring of good swinging flesh in the ears.
00:21:11The meals were hearty. The body was tired. The sleep was great.
00:21:23Simple. This is the yearning for the medieval life. I remember when I would be,
00:21:26I used to live on Don Mills Road. We moved like three times in the same apartment building,
00:21:31but I had one, in one of the apartments we lived, I had a balcony. I used to sleep out on the
00:21:36balcony. And I wake up in the morning, early in the morning, deep breath before the stink of the
00:21:41city starts to infect your mind. And I looked out with the edge of the balcony. I looked over
00:21:47to the left, and there was the edge of the buildings. And it looked like, because there
00:21:52were a lot of trees, it looked like we were on the edge of civilization. And out there was
00:21:57Mirkwood, was the forest that went on forever, that you could explore, and build, and track,
00:22:03and make paths, and cut your way through the wood. And I loved cutting my way through the wood.
00:22:09When I was up north, you got a good ax, a good machete, good hearty swinging muscles,
00:22:14and you can see a path, you've cleared it through, you've bent nature to your will,
00:22:18you've carved through like a rocket, through a cloud, left your mark, staked your claim,
00:22:27moved matter, rather than mere thoughts. Ah, it's glorious.
00:22:35When muscles and man meet, testosterone, spine, willpower, and aggression,
00:22:44carves your path through life, rather than, I hope it didn't get cancelled. Oh no,
00:22:48someone found something that I said and took it out of contact. Oh no, oh no, oh no. God almighty.
00:22:56I'm not saying bring back duels. No.
00:23:04But it would be faster, that's all I'm saying. Bad, obviously, totally wrong, but faster, yes.
00:23:09So, the people who miss the magic meat of manly muscle, the violence, the aggression,
00:23:24the assertiveness, who get all claustrophobic and neurotic in a system of voluntarism,
00:23:33private property in the markets, they yearn for those thatched roof, riding horses,
00:23:46grabbing women, setting fire to things, taking stuff, growing and trying to survive. They
00:23:53yearn deeply for that life. And then they try to arrange society where more and more
00:24:02coercion transfers resources. But the question is the noble savage myth,
00:24:07the people who write about it with such evocative language, how does it come from a dim dream of the
00:24:15coercively inclined to a florid set of syllables that evoke the deepest passions of our ancient
00:24:22hearts? Is it the Dungeons and Dragons? The Lord of the Rings? The Sword of Shannara?
00:24:30A backpack, some goods to sell and trade, a sword, some companions, a horse, and a path.
00:24:42Isn't it nice when you're buried neck deep in tax forms?
00:24:49Don't you want to just carve a path through the wilderness?
00:24:52And build shelter for your wife and children with the trembling muscles of your bare arms?
00:25:03And will nature rather than wrestle with foggy bureaucrats?
00:25:09Just a consummation devoutly to be wished, no? Maybe it's just me. Maybe it's just me.
00:25:16But how does it get translated from this dim preference to this mythology? Well,
00:25:24that's the intellectuals. So, I remember I said the intellectuals go both ways often, for real,
00:25:29for real. Anyway, the wind blows. So, the intellectuals love to dream of
00:25:40the noble savage, because the noble savage time represents a time when intellectuals
00:25:47could convince people through stories, analogies, power, superstition, and the early primitive
00:25:53embers or starting fires or priming waters of religion. You can spin a compelling tale,
00:26:02you're so convincing that you can fuck with people's health, right?
00:26:13I put a curse on you, Macbeth, you shall not sleep. Tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow creeps
00:26:24in this petty pace from day to day to the last syllable of recorded time.
00:26:30And all our yesterdays have lighted, fools the way to dusty death,
00:26:35out, out, breathe candle, a life's but a walking shadow.
00:26:43So, the intellectuals love when they could curse people and fuck with their health,
00:26:51get them so wound up, so believing in these curses that they stressed and worried and panicked
00:27:00themselves into immobility, into paralysis, when verbal abuse were like arrows into the
00:27:08nervous system and flaming and degrading it. And this idea that there's a curse
00:27:19that makes a woman barren, well, that curse is slander. She's got a terrible sexual disease,
00:27:25she's inhabited by a demon, she will give birth to a demon, right? She has a vagina dentata,
00:27:33she has, I have cursed her with teeth in her vagina, so then the woman is infertile because
00:27:39you've spread enough lies and rumors about this. This is not exactly gone from the modern age,
00:27:43right? So, the intellectuals yearn to go back, to go back in time, to a time when their verbal
00:27:51abuse could command the soldiers. This is the Thulsa Doom of Conan, not the second cheesy one,
00:27:59but the first one that was a little deeper, right? This is the Robert E. Howard Conan stuff where
00:28:04the power is not the sword, the power is the word. Or as Conan says in the second movie,
00:28:12Conan the Destroyer, what can, I can't do, I can't really do a, what can a sword do against magic?
00:28:22And of course, entire civilizations are being overthrown by language as we speak,
00:28:27as we speak, as we listen, as we sit, as we talk.
00:28:32So, the intellectuals bend the will of the warriors to their verbal will, and this is why
00:28:45the intellectuals in a free market wish for a return of the noble savage, and they paint the
00:28:53past as heroic, as misty-eyed, as deep and spiritual and meaningful. And this is part of
00:29:04the environmental movement, is a desire to go back to the ages of violence, the ages of violence,
00:29:16the ages when man was part of nature and nature could have her way unimpeded. So, the intellectuals
00:29:24who often don't do very well in a free market environment, they yearn to go back to when their
00:29:31sorcerous language and their treasonous language could command the hearts and souls of the less
00:29:35intelligent warrior class and slam them in phalanxes against their enemies. This is still
00:29:44happening even now, right? Even now, right? The warrior class is being dominated by
00:29:51the artistic intellectual language classes.
00:29:56So, the warriors have a distant dream of back in the day
00:30:02when they could fight and win. And you see, the Incredibles touches on this a little bit too,
00:30:06when, you know, the big guy has a—he remembers back when he
00:30:14could fight and act before bureaucracy and legal liability and legalese and
00:30:20restrictions and regulations tied him to a desk job. This is also talked about
00:30:27at the beginning of the classic Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, where the guy who's come
00:30:38to turf Arthur Dent out of his house is a descendant of Genghis Khan and is constantly
00:30:45fighting his own desires to pillage and burn everything to the ground.
00:30:57Marxism is a desire to return to a primitive state when the intellectual class, which were
00:31:08the witch doctors, commanded the warrior class to take stuff from the productive classes. And this
00:31:16battle between lies and property, between fantastical tales that carve idiot swords
00:31:25through the throats of the curious, productive, rational, and inquisitive.
00:31:32Well, I understand the yearning. I do. I really—I mean, my ancestors were warrior class. My
00:31:40ancestors were aristocracy. They were—their swords were in service to the king. My name is
00:31:49French, of course. My lands—my family's lands were in Ireland. We came over with William the
00:31:57Conqueror in 1066, and we were granted our lands because we were very good warriors for the king.
00:32:03So, I really, really understand this.
00:32:07And we can all think of shows and movies where—the upside of the primitive life.
00:32:22And haven't you—everybody's had this desire, haven't they? I mean, I'm going to maybe speak
00:32:26to the more testicularly inclined, but hit me with a why if you've ever had a dream of simple
00:32:35violence to resolve disputes. I know I have. When I was a kid, I would think of that.
00:32:49And the yearning for the intellectuals to use the power of language. Language, metaphors,
00:32:54analogies, stories, compelling narratives of culture and history and society and country
00:33:01and king—these are all fantastical mind webs put in to control the sword arm of the simple,
00:33:10violent, and more gullible.
00:33:18And you can see this with parents all the time. This negotiation is over! You're done! Enough!
00:33:26Boom! The hammer comes down, right?
00:33:31And don't we all have that temptation as parents to feel the beast rising from within
00:33:43in many situations? To have the beast rise from within.
00:33:53I mean, I remember in the tour—gosh, six years ago now—the tour of Australia,
00:34:00the magnificent City Hop.
00:34:06Lauren Southern was giving a speech, and a protester rushed her and was tackled by
00:34:12the security.
00:34:17I must confess to some significant disappointment. I was like, and I was giving the speech, you know,
00:34:24you give a speech, there's a lot that's going on in your mind, especially I gave like an hour plus,
00:34:30without notes and very complicated stuff. There's a lot going on in your mind.
00:34:36You're gauging the audience, you're gauging the reception, you're gauging the interest,
00:34:40you're gauging the friendliness. And of course, because I am who I am, I was gauging for assault.
00:34:48And I'll tell you, man, I was like, oh, please, please, bring it, bring it.
00:35:00I mean, I'm fairly strong. I'm very quick. I know a little bit about self-defense.
00:35:09And I was like, enough of this media yapping and slander, I'm going to bring it.
00:35:16I get goosebumps even now. But they didn't, they only picked on Lauren. Not the most
00:35:23courageous thing I've ever seen, but they did not try to attack me.
00:35:30So we understand it, don't we? So the Noble Savage is the inquiet dreams of the warrior
00:35:37class combined with the lust, drive, and desire of the
00:35:44syllogistically phantasmagorical intellectual, creative, artistic,
00:35:50poet class, to domesticate the warrior class,
00:35:56with stories, to put the bit and harness of language on the feral elasticity and
00:36:06spontaneous aggression of the warrior classes that we can guide and teach them. And again,
00:36:12we see this all, it's all happening now. It's all happening now. And I'm not saying
00:36:17it's not happening. I'm saying it's happening. And I'm not saying it's not happening.
00:36:21That we can guide and teach them. And again, we see this all, it's all happening now.
00:36:26It's all happening. This is not anything abstract. This is not anything we don't know.
00:36:30This is all happening right now. People are being goaded to violence all the time. All the time.
00:36:37I mean, I remember when I was touring some, I mean, the media never, I don't remember the media
00:36:42ever condemning the violence that was used against me. Ever. Ever. I was always condemning the
00:36:48violence. But they never did. They loved it. Because they wanted to whip up aggression,
00:36:55right? I mean, that level of slander. They wanted to whip up aggression so that the unstable people
00:36:59then want to attack you, right? So it's a way of remote control activation of latent psychosis and
00:37:05hostility through the relentless application of slanderous language, right? Damn, the sentences
00:37:11are coming out well tonight. That's some fine stuff.
00:37:25Come on, tell me. This ain't worth a donation or two.
00:37:32In the book, what is it? What's the book? In the book Sapiens, the author frames the agricultural
00:37:35and industrial revolutions as being foisted on the masses rather than emerging organically as
00:37:39a result of need and technology advancement. Do you? Do you? Do you?
00:37:53I mean, the agricultural revolution resulted from the liberation of the serfs.
00:37:58It was in the mid-19th century, a little past that in Russia, but earlier in England and some
00:38:05other places. England, I think, was one of the first. It's the liberation of the serfs. So you
00:38:09were no longer tied to the land as a half-slave and bought and sold with the land. You could now
00:38:13move and buy and sell the land. And so there was a reduction in the non-aggression principle.
00:38:19And the results of that, yeah, they were inflicted on some people for sure, but there was a general
00:38:22reduction of the non-aggression principle. And how do we know that? Because productivity went up.
00:38:27Whenever you see productivity going down, it's because the non-aggression principle is being
00:38:32violated extraordinarily, in extraordinary depth and breadth, right? I mean, in Canada,
00:38:39productivity is cratering, right? Well, because cheap labor is denying the need for automation,
00:38:46or it is postponing the need for automation. So the industrial revolution was foisted on the masses.
00:38:58Or what? What was the alternative? To continue the medieval half-starvation, endless plague stuff?
00:39:03You know, what I'd love to see, I don't think anyone will ever do this work. What I'd love to
00:39:08see is, has the economic efficiencies that people claim for internationalism been more than offset
00:39:16by the constant plagues, illnesses, and sickness that comes through the population as the result
00:39:22of international trade? So for instance, they say, ah, yes, well, but you know, in the early
00:39:29Middle Ages, trade routes opened up in China and India. Yes, and through that, we got the Black
00:39:33Death, which killed a third to a half of Europeans. Was it worth it, because you got better spices?
00:39:39Oh, look at that, spicy food again. Once more, like we don't have the recipes. Was it worth
00:39:44wiping out a third to half of the European population, just so you could get tea, dyes,
00:39:52and nicey spicies? All right. You need more challenging debate partners.
00:40:04You're assuming that it could be. Stefan, are you ever coming back to X?
00:40:08I await X's apology for unjustly deplatforming me, that's all, because when people do you a grave
00:40:22wrong, they owe you an apology. So when that comes about, I will return. It can even be informal,
00:40:32off the record, doesn't matter. But,
00:40:43I'm not going back without an apology. That's what I've always said to people, right? If people
00:40:47wrong you, then they owe you an apology, and if you don't get an apology, you don't resume the
00:40:51relationship, right? If you had a friend who half-destroyed your marriage by spreading lies
00:41:00about you, and your friend just wanted back in your life, would you have him? No, of course not.
00:41:15All right, let us get to your questions as a whole, because I may have missed some unthinkable.
00:41:30Yeah, the permit stuff is soul death, that's right.
00:41:34Was milking a cow every day had unlimited firewood to pull from? Well, that's the Owen
00:41:39Benjamin question, right? Guy's been milking cows, uh, I think as long as my daughter's been alive.
00:41:46It's very popular with intellectuals, but they would be the first to get clubbed.
00:41:50No, every intellectual thinks that they can control the mindless muscle of the warrior class
00:41:55through the potency of their poetic language, right? Everyone believes that, right?
00:42:00Yeah, dances with wolves offered some of this as well, a return to tooth and claw, yeah.
00:42:07Steph, this is brilliant, one of your best, in my opinion. I'm making this a part of the
00:42:10curriculum for my kids. Oh, I'm glad, thank you. I thought it was pretty good myself, too.
00:42:19When you had the crowd to the call of the Kookaburra, I was terrified the sun wasn't
00:42:23going to come up the next day, right? Hey, Steph, what do you think about this trend among
00:42:29married women where they hyphenate their last names? Independence? But it's their father's last
00:42:34name. Is it just a fad? Ironically, I know of a woman who married into a famous family. She
00:42:37proudly presented her new last name on social media. She didn't hyphenate anything. Right.
00:42:47I mean, it's all just the relationship between the sexes is all just so foundationally unreal.
00:42:53It's all, I mean, I genuinely believe this, that money printing produces psychosis. It produces a
00:43:01kind of low-grade or even high-grade psychosis. And so, for men, the psychosis is that imaginary
00:43:15success equals real success. I meet someone in Fortnite. I'm a warrior king. I've achieved
00:43:21something in the real world. No, that's just fake stuff, right?
00:43:27It's just fake stuff. But it produces this unreality.
00:43:36And also, generational wealth produces unreality as well. This is one of the arguments that
00:43:43Roman has. It says, look, you got the wealthiest generation in human history,
00:43:50which is the boomers. And so, everyone's just waiting for that free shit. They're waiting for
00:43:53the house. They're waiting for the inheritance. They're waiting for the 401ks. They're waiting
00:43:57for the life insurance. They're waiting for all of this free stuff. And waiting for free stuff
00:44:02is limbo. It is a slow, creeping, paralytic death of near-infinite expectations.
00:44:10Waiting for someone to die is not being much of a human being, but rather a form of vulture.
00:44:17Oh, was that a heart murmur I heard? So, there's this general psychosis. One of the great psychoses
00:44:25that is going on in the modern world, with the foundation of the welfare state, and debt,
00:44:31and free healthcare, and government jobs for women, and all of this. One of the great psychoses
00:44:37that is occurring is that women scorn men. Women believe they don't need men.
00:44:45They don't need no men. It's all a patriarchy. We can do it ourselves. Men are useless. Men are
00:44:51dumb. Let's throw rocks at them. Whatever, right? I mean, we can dance with our Taylor Swift
00:44:56headphones on. We don't need a man. So, this idea that women don't need men is a psychosis that is
00:45:04produced by fiat currency, by money printing, and so on, right?
00:45:13So, if women want to be independent, I mean, okay, go for it. Then, you can't take any government
00:45:18programs, because government programs are 80% funded by men. So, why do you need student loan
00:45:23debt forgiveness? I mean, the data is very clear. Why do you need student loan debt forgiveness?
00:45:29Because female students are massively in debt. Men are paying off their debts. Women aren't.
00:45:39And so, you've got these over-educated women who can't make any money.
00:45:45They've been tricked and fooled into thinking that if they act like men, they'll be attractive
00:45:49to men, which may be the case with gay men, but not so much with us straighties.
00:45:53And so, women have accumulated this education, which makes them hypergamous. A woman's increase
00:45:58in education reduces the number of men that she's willing to date, which is great for the top
00:46:02players, but terrible for everyone else. And also, a woman, in general, can't pay off her debt,
00:46:08because the degrees that women go for are not economically productive. The most economically
00:46:12productive degree, at least as of some years ago, was, that's right, petroleum engineering.
00:46:18Although, how you build bridges out of oil, I don't know, but then I was more on the software
00:46:23engineering side. So, petroleum engineering. Now, how many women do you think are going into
00:46:29petroleum engineering, as opposed to, say, social work, maybe some nursing, right? Being a teacher,
00:46:36right? They don't do this stuff. In fact, I've known a couple of women over the course of my life
00:46:41who got engineering degrees. How many of them work as engineers? Quick question. How many of the
00:46:46women I've known over the course of my life? Probably half a dozen. How many of them work
00:46:51in engineering? Yes, that would be a big fat zero. Not a one. Not a one.
00:47:04So, women's degrees are not economically productive. Of course, everybody was told,
00:47:09well, you know, we just educate people and they'll make more money. Okay, so that's a theory. That
00:47:13theory, of course, has completely failed, and it's not anything to do with patriarchy, because
00:47:17the more choice women have, the more they choose economically unproductive degrees.
00:47:22Well, we know that, because as female autonomy increases, segregation into relatively unproductive
00:47:29girl degrees increases. So, in a place where there's very low female agencies, yeah,
00:47:34they do computer science and other things like that, but then when they have more freedom,
00:47:38more liberation, and so on, then they just go into... I mean, nursing, of course, is economically
00:47:43productive as a whole, although that's doubtful given how unhealthy everyone in particular in
00:47:48America is these days. But, I mean, yeah, the degrees are just, you know, anthropology,
00:47:52geography. I mean, it's all nonsense, right? So, the reason why
00:48:00the student debt relief is such an issue is because men are being taxed to pay off
00:48:10women's unproductive degrees, economically unproductive degrees. And one of the reasons
00:48:15why women are so keen, of course, they want to not pay all of this money, but one of the reasons why
00:48:21women are so keen to have the government remove their debts is the ladies are finding that men
00:48:28are actually quite good at calculating economic interest, right? So, men and women fit together,
00:48:33and one of the reasons we're able to specialize is someone else does the other thinking for us,
00:48:37right? So, I can focus really on philosophy. My wife does the things that I'm not as good at,
00:48:42and I do the stuff my wife's not as good at. So, our brains have done a division of labor between
00:48:47the genders. And if you give women questions about economic issues and interest and investment
00:48:56and so on, they score abysmally relative to men. I mean, this is true of just general knowledge as a
00:49:00whole, but there are things that women know more about than men. But in this particular case,
00:49:05women just don't know much about that kind of stuff. And if you've ever talked to women and
00:49:09said, oh, what's your plan for retirement? How much do you need to retire? I'm going to travel,
00:49:15right? I mean, they just generally, I mean, it's lots of exceptions, but they just generally don't.
00:49:20They don't really think about these things, because a lot of financial planning over the
00:49:25course of human history, it was more efficient to have men deal with that more and women deal
00:49:30with that less. And you can't just rewire everyone's brain because you want to snap
00:49:33your fingers and make this magical equality stuff happen. You just can't. You can't make
00:49:37it happen. You can't take hundreds of thousands or millions of years of brain specialization and
00:49:42reverse it because ideology. Ideology is the belief that human beings have no innate natures.
00:49:50There's no innate differences whatsoever. And there's no such thing as IQ, of course, right?
00:49:57So the worker can become the manager. No problem. If you remember the movie with Dan Aykroyd and
00:50:03Eddie Murphy, Trading Places, right? The skeevy guy who's ripping people off, pretending to be a
00:50:11legless, homeless veteran. Well, he can just go and become a stock trader. And the stock trader
00:50:16can just be cast down and end up homeless, right? I mean, it's all just massive amounts of
00:50:23leftist environmental stuff. If you change the environment, you change the person, right?
00:50:30So, thread lost. Please remind. What was I talking about? I went down three different paths
00:50:52and I couldn't get back. I could not get back. What was I talking about? Remind me,
00:50:59please, my friends. This is your test to see. This will be on the test.
00:51:05Were you listening? Help me. That happens every couple of weeks.
00:51:13It will return. Oh, yes. Psychosis. Right. Got it. Thanks. Fine. I'm fine. I don't need your help.
00:51:20I don't need your help. So this independence of women is just fueled by debt. It's just fueled
00:51:29by debt. I saw this TikTok of a woman who was like, we're just not going to have children. It's
00:51:34just not a good deal for us because we just don't like the way that men are treating us and we just
00:51:38don't want to and you can't make us and we're just going to decide to go and travel and we're just
00:51:41not going to have any kids and blah, blah, blah, right? It's like, okay, so how are you going to
00:51:47save for your old age? You can say, hey, man, I'm not going to have kids and I'm not going to have
00:51:53a husband and so I'm going to need like twice the savings because my husband is not, I'm not
00:52:00sharing space and rent with my husband and I'm not having kids and so I'm going to need to work
00:52:09twice as hard to save for my old age, right? But they don't want to do that. What they want to say
00:52:14is, I don't want the responsibility of having a husband. I don't want the responsibility of
00:52:17having children and I don't want to save the money that I would have spent on having children
00:52:26for my old age. They want to have a life with far fewer responsibilities and no additional
00:52:34with far fewer responsibilities and no additional obligations, right?
00:52:41And it's just a matter of choose your suffering, right?
00:52:43And choose your suffering. So what women want is like, well, we're not going to have kids
00:52:49and we're not going to work 70 hours a week to save money for our old age and we're not going
00:52:54to get married and it's like, so then you're going to run out of money. I mean, you're going to run
00:53:01out of money. Because you're going to retire with almost no money, right?
00:53:17You're just going to retire with almost no money, right?
00:53:23If women don't save as much as men,
00:53:25right? Women save $3,000 annually compared to 7,000 over 7,000, but a little over 3,000
00:53:36compared to a little over 7,000. So women save three sevenths as much as men, right?
00:53:47Yeah, women don't save as much. Women have to find a longer retirement with less money.
00:53:54Women are expected in the US to live to 79 years. Men are expected to live for 72 years.
00:53:58The seven year difference, right? Even for someone who spends a modest 40,000 a year
00:54:03in retirement, this amounts to an additional $280,000 to cover the final seven years.
00:54:09Women on average have saved about 30% less money by the time they retire compared to men.
00:54:13So, excellent. You're going to live a lot longer and you have saved 30% less money.
00:54:26Women have more student debt than men. Women borrow 25% more than men.
00:54:35Associate degrees program, 25% more.
00:54:43I don't agree with the fact that in the past, women weren't allowed to borrow without their
00:54:47husband's permission, but you can understand some of the impulses behind it.
00:54:56So, let me ask you this, and I'm sure it's even worse now, right?
00:55:05What percentage of women age 55 to 66 have no personal retirement savings?
00:55:19What percentage of women age 55 to 66 have no personal retirement savings?
00:55:27What do you think?
00:55:28What do you think?
00:55:39Come on, what do we got? 50%, 40%, half. Yeah, that's right. It's about half of women
00:55:46aged 55 to 66 have no retirement savings. Now, I mean, it's not that much better for men.
00:55:5222% of women have a 100,000 or more in personal retirement savings compared to 30% of men.
00:56:02Half of women have nothing saved for retirement and they're almost retiring.
00:56:08Like, isn't that wild? Isn't that absolutely wild? I would, honestly, I'd be shitting myself.
00:56:18I'd be shitting bricks sideways out of my armpits, right? If I was 55 to 66
00:56:27with no savings for retirement, my God, that's staggering to me. I mean,
00:56:35no wonder there's a lot of anxiety, right?
00:56:41The latest data, this is from June 24th, 2024.
00:56:44Women in the U.S. have saved just a third of the amount that men have set aside for retirement,
00:56:49setting up a potential crisis among female retirees. Now,
00:56:52it's going to be a huge crisis for male taxpayers.
00:56:58Men had saved a median $157,000 for retirement, while women had only put aside $50,000.
00:57:08According to a survey of 905 U.S. adults between the ages of 55 and 66,
00:57:1475. My gosh. 46% of men said they were looking forward to retirement
00:57:27and had more plans compared with only 27% of women.
00:57:3655-year-old Americans were financially unprepared for retirement. The median savings for a person
00:57:40at that age was about $47,950 compared with the almost half a million recommended by Prudential.
00:57:47It should be more than that, right? Isn't that wild?
00:57:57So, women live longer and aren't saving for retirement.
00:58:02How empowered are they? Are they going to be empowered to live on seaweed and
00:58:07gravel and oxygen when they get old?
00:58:11I mean, when you retire, you're going to burn through $100,000 in a couple of years, right?
00:58:30So, of course, they're all blaming it with the gender pay gap, but the gender pay gap is women's
00:58:36choices. The average woman's retirement balance, according to another source, is $118,000 and
00:58:43changed. This is about 44% less than $170,000 the average man has.
00:58:51So, in terms, you want to, the high stuff
00:58:55skews off the bell curve as a whole. So, if you look at more of the medium stuff,
00:59:01the middle number, right, the median figures, median retirement savings for women are just
00:59:06$31,291 compared to $45,000 for men.
00:59:14And what are they, are they imagining that they, in 20, 30 years, the
00:59:22government is just going to hand you money?
00:59:26It might, but it's not going to be worth much, right? It's not going to be worth much at all.
00:59:29You set a personal record for your longest daily move streak, 42 days. That's very nice.
00:59:38Oh, you can't give me notifications, you freaks. All right, let's look at one other fact.
00:59:48This is from February 19th, 2024, U.S., I think. What percentage of women have less than $100
00:59:57in savings? What percentage of women have less than $100 in savings? God, appalling.
01:00:17The percentage of women that has less than $100 in savings is 39%.
01:00:36Four out of 10 women, two out of five, 40% of women have less than $100 in savings.
01:00:46Now, quick question as a whole, quick question.
01:00:54When you go to the mall, how much of the average mall is absolute trash bullshit nonsense
01:01:04for women? Just out of curiosity, you go to the mall, what do you see? Do you see
01:01:10stores with pretty shoes and handbags and baubles and jewelry and crap, garbage,
01:01:21nonsense dresses? Who cares? Who gives a shit? Waste of time. It's going to be outdated by next
01:01:27year. Doesn't matter. Huge waste of time resources. How much of your average mall
01:01:34is dedicated to women's retarded vanity purchases? Just out of curiosity, what do you think?
01:01:54That's just the reality. It is impulse purchases, vanity, sex in the city, garbage,
01:02:02nonsense, materialistic, consumptionistic crap. This is one of the reasons why it seems like about
01:02:1080% of the modern economic policies are there to shift resources from men to women because men
01:02:19will save their money as a whole and women will spend their money. Men will invest in useful
01:02:24stuff. Women invest in crap in general. Lots of exceptions in general.
01:02:33Now, a lot of men don't have much savings either but men can just keep working.
01:02:40So, one of the problems that's happening, how much in a mall is dedicated solely to men? Okay,
01:02:56so how much in the mall is dedicated solely to men? Now, you could say, well, there's Brooks
01:03:01Brothers, there's places where men's suits are sold and so on, but in general, and I'm not trying
01:03:07to blame women for everything to do with this because I don't dislike a nice suit and you do
01:03:10need it from time to time, but a lot of that stuff is driven by women wanting men to dress up well
01:03:15for x, y, and z reason, just as a whole. So, it's not, I'm not, there are men's shoes and there is,
01:03:22you know, Best Buy, maybe that's a little bit more male or whatever. So, men do buy some useless
01:03:27technology and all of that. Lord knows I have, but I consider it research for the show, but
01:03:33it's just a lot of, this is why money is taken from male taxpayers, like men pay about 80% of
01:03:41the tax receipts, especially if you discount female employment in the state, right? So,
01:03:47it is taking money from men and giving it to women so that women pump up the economy with
01:03:51massive amounts of consumption in the here and now. Yeah, and men can work till the wheels fall
01:03:55off and so on, right? So, one of the reasons, another reason why, of course, they want to
01:04:05get rid of women's student loan debt is
01:04:10women are finding themselves unmarriable because of their debt.
01:04:16Have you ever dated a woman and ditched her for reasons of debt? I've never dated a woman
01:04:31that I've ditched for reasons of debt, but I will certainly say that I went on a first date
01:04:39with a woman and never saw her again because she was significantly in debt.
01:04:45I guess modern equivalent would be she had about $40,000 in credit card debt,
01:04:53and I'm like, no, no, thank you. I mean, so why? I mean, just for dating,
01:05:02why don't you want to date a woman
01:05:07who has a lot of debt and the student loan debt is pretty huge for a lot of women, right?
01:05:17Let's see.
01:05:18Yeah. So, Americans, this was April 3rd, 2023. Americans hold $1.7 trillion in student loan
01:05:34debt, nearly two-thirds of that money, almost a trillion dollars is owed by women.
01:05:48And black women, this is something Kevin Samuels talks about a lot, that the black women are going
01:05:52to suffer, are particularly affected by student loan debt. I like how they say affected by student
01:05:57loan debt, like it's just something in the air as opposed to choices you make. Black women in
01:06:01America owe an average of $37,558 compared to the $29,862 white men owe and $31,346 that men owe.
01:06:12It's like, yeah, they're burdened more by the debt. Women are just burdened more. Like,
01:06:20they just can't say women have chosen to go into debt and are not paying it off.
01:06:26And it's the kind of thing where if you go into debt,
01:06:33if you go into debt and you don't know how to pay it off or can't pay it off,
01:06:38then isn't that either a moral issue or an IQ issue?
01:06:48So yeah, this is a woman at the end of her education. This is what's her name, Amy Eichberger.
01:07:00Now I want a German sandwich. All right.
01:07:03Tuition for community college, just a couple of hundred bucks a semester in the 90s.
01:07:07Getting her associate's degree and thriving in an academic setting, she decided to level up,
01:07:11getting her bachelor's in public health. Then facing lackluster job prospects,
01:07:14she pursued her master's in healthcare administration. Eventually, when she went
01:07:18back to school again, completing a two-year graduate program required of her current job.
01:07:23All in all, she owed almost $350,000 for that education.
01:07:27I took out loans for everything because I'm not making a million dollars a year. It just
01:07:31piled on. It just kept piling on. It's like, what do you mean? It just kept on piling on.
01:07:37On average, borrowers with graduate degrees have roughly $103,000 in student loans.
01:07:44Right? That's appalling.
01:07:47I never dated women in debt.
01:07:53I've had times where I've had to live really like Bedouin-style teepee in the cold, lean
01:08:03to pay off debt. I've had to live in a house that was built in the middle of nowhere.
01:08:09I've had to live in a house that was built in the middle of nowhere.
01:08:11Bedouin-style teepee in the cold, lean to pay off debt.
01:08:20I have no problem with strategic borrowing, but pay that shit back.
01:08:25Just pay it back because you borrowed it. Otherwise, it's a kind of stealing for me.
01:08:32For me.
01:08:34Women are finding themselves unmarriable because of debt. Of course, there's some people in the
01:08:40government who want to raise the birth rate, and if women are burdened with massive amounts of debt,
01:08:46right, then they can't have families.
01:08:57They can't have families. You burden women with debt,
01:09:01they can't have families. The birth rate collapses.
01:09:10Oh.
01:09:13Women hold an average of $31,276 in student debt.
01:09:28So $31,276, this is of 2021, so it's probably worse now,
01:09:36monthly loan payment of $307 a year after graduation.
01:09:40Women graduating with a bachelor's degree expect to earn an average of $35,000 and change.
01:09:46So.
01:09:56What can I tell you?
01:10:02Can I tell you?
01:10:08What are you going to do?
01:10:10What are you going to do?
01:10:16Oh, let them pay. Okay, well, then they can't get married, they can't have kids,
01:10:19and birth rate collapses. See, I know people get mad, right?
01:10:28I know people get mad, like, oh, women, accountability, blah, blah, blah.
01:10:33But what are you going to do? I mean, what are you going to do?
01:10:37Oh, you should tax the endowments, blah, blah, blah. I get all of that. I get all of that.
01:10:50Crazy.
01:10:55Oh, I'm just trying to see if I can get 2024 data for this stuff.
01:11:02And of course, the cost of tuition has gone up like crazy because there's so
01:11:05crazy because there's so much government subsidies and so on. And all it does is,
01:11:09like, the educational system in the West, in particular, in the U.S.,
01:11:13is just a way, in a sense, of holding children hostage so that a bunch of administrators can
01:11:17push paper around. Because if you look at the spending on teachers and on students,
01:11:22it's remained relatively flat, but the spending on infinite layers of bureaucracy
01:11:26has gone through the roof.
01:11:35So, it's just another transfer of resources from men to women.
01:11:51And of course, I mean, the woke stuff is female nature plus the state is woke stuff, right?
01:11:56Female nature plus the state is woke stuff.
01:12:0565% of student loan debt is owned by women. Yeah, that's in what I've got, right?
01:12:12So, I wouldn't, when I was, even when I was not in a marriage-minded,
01:12:15I'm not in a marriage-minded state of mind, when I was dating,
01:12:19I wouldn't date a woman who was significantly in debt. No, of course not. I mean, so the woman I
01:12:25was, went on a first date with is a nice, nice young woman. She was pretty and all of that.
01:12:31But 40,000 debt, I can't date. I mean, dating is to some degree about spending money, isn't it?
01:12:39Going to do fun things, right? Going to maybe on a trip or two and going out for dinner and
01:12:46going dancing, going to see a movie, right? She can't afford that, right? She can't afford that.
01:13:01So, I'm going to date her because she'd be like, oh, let's just stay in and watch TV. I'm like,
01:13:06no, I'm in my twenties. I'm not. Look at that. My beard matches my top. I'm not going to stay in
01:13:15and watch TV. What am I, 80? I'm not staying in to watch TV. I want to go out. I want to go
01:13:26rent a cottage, right? Because I was making good money in the software field at that time.
01:13:32Ah, back in the day. Back in the day, making some good money before. Well, we know. So,
01:13:43I am going to date a woman. Because if she's still out there spending money, oh,
01:13:48if I remember rightly, and I think I do, this was part of it was her just bad spending.
01:13:54It wasn't school, I don't think. And part of it was she had some ex-boyfriend who ran up
01:13:58all this money, right? So, what are you going to do? If women make bad decisions,
01:14:04they have to be rescued. Men don't have to be rescued because we're more disposable,
01:14:07but women have to be rescued. Ah, women, society protects women from consequences. It's like,
01:14:13well, yeah. I mean, what's our choice? I mean, people get mad at this. It's like,
01:14:20what's our choice? If a woman has a kid outside a wedlock, what is society going to do?
01:14:30I mean, the kid's there, right? Kid needs healthcare. Kid needs dental care. Kid needs
01:14:35food, shelter, clothing, toys, a crib. It needs all of this stuff. You need your money for the
01:14:42kid. Someone's got to take care of the kid. Someone's got to breastfeed the kid. The woman
01:14:46can't work and do that. What's going to happen? So, it's not, I don't know, it's not anything
01:15:00weird or creepy or nasty or wrong or unjust. It's like, well, a woman has a child outside a wedlock
01:15:08or women accumulate so much debt that men don't want to marry them
01:15:12because a man, I'll tell you how I look at it. Maybe I'm wrong.
01:15:20Or maybe at least it's different for you.
01:15:24But I look at a woman, let's say she's got 40 grand in debt for a degree in English literature,
01:15:33right? And she can't find work in the field or whatever. She's got a
01:15:3740 grand in debt for a degree in English literature. Well, what am I going to say?
01:15:43Well, so if we get married and you have kids, you're going to stop working. So,
01:15:49I'm going to have to pay off that debt. So, that is more than 40,000, right?
01:15:58Right. Let's see here. Debt paid off in, let's say you can do it in 15 years, right? Let's say
01:16:09you can do that in 15 years, right? Let's say you've got a decent interest rate, 5%, right?
01:16:15You're going to pay it off in 15 years, right?
01:16:23So, I'm going to be paying 56,000, almost $57,000 and that's at a pretty low interest rate,
01:16:31right? If the interest rate is 7%, then it's a whole lot worse, right?
01:16:39Why are you not recalculating? That's not right. Oh, sorry. There it is. Yeah. That's 20,
01:16:47almost 25,000, right? So, I'm paying 60% additional, right? That's 7%. It's $360 a
01:17:00month for 15 years. That's money right out of the mouths of my children.
01:17:04So, I wouldn't date a woman who had significant debt. Now, it's one thing if she says, well,
01:17:17you know, I have a mortgage. Okay, then maybe we have a place to go and live, right? That's
01:17:21fine. That's valuable. I get that. I accept that. That's a good thing. But to date a woman who's
01:17:28got debt that doesn't provide economic productivity, in fact, it's even worse,
01:17:32right? For me, the way that I thought about women when I would talk to a woman and she'd say, oh,
01:17:36yeah, you know, I got a degree in X, Y, and Z, and I'd be like, oh my gosh, what's your student loan
01:17:41experience, right? I think I borrowed a grand total of 10 grand from my student debt and paid
01:17:47it all off fairly promptly. I'm a big one for just pay it off. And I know there's arguments to say,
01:17:52well, invest the money, pay the difference, but I'm just like, I want it off my mind. I want it
01:17:55off my head. I want it out of my paperwork. I just pay it off, right? So I would look at that
01:18:06and I would say, okay, so what's your thinking here? If you're willing to stay home and have kids,
01:18:13why did you get an expensive degree? Especially if this was post-university. So it's one thing
01:18:20for a woman to go to the university to get, as they used to say, to get her MRS degree,
01:18:24right? It's one thing. But if you are a woman and you go and get an English Literature degree
01:18:32and you get into significant debt for it, and you have no particular plan afterwards,
01:18:35that just says you don't really think things through. So that's not good.
01:18:41And also, if you went to university to get a husband, why did you emerge from university
01:18:46with no husband or no long-term dating, whatever, leading to engagement, leading to marriage or
01:18:51whatever, right? So we're like, I don't really think you think things through. Also for myself,
01:18:55what I did, rightly or wrongly, I'm just telling you my sort of thought process for women with
01:19:00debt. It was like student loan debt in particular, but debt as a whole. But student loan debt is like,
01:19:05okay, so you're going to be more dissatisfied being a stay-at-home mom because you might
01:19:09have delusions of grandeur about what you're capable of because you have got this education,
01:19:13right? So that's bad. So that's bad. So why would I want to fund a woman's education when she's
01:19:27going to be a stay-at-home mom and feel dissatisfied because, oh, all I'm doing is blah, blah, blah,
01:19:32right? Just doesn't show much thinking through, if that makes sense. Somebody wrote, I just finished
01:19:40your novel, The Present. Fantastic book. Thank you for writing this. I will start your novel,
01:19:44The Future, tonight. Did you have an inspiration for the Oliver character? All right, hit me with
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01:21:07It just is our instinct, and it is just the way things roll.
01:21:13And we have evolved to take care of grandparents, because if we slam the door in our wife's elderly
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01:21:36So you have some, you have a few people have read it. Actually, only one person I can see here.
01:21:41So the character Oliver was based upon myself if I had been raised by my aunts.
01:21:48So the character of Oliver is me if I had remained being raised by my aunts. So my father,
01:21:56my late father, has had three sisters who were very staunch, and very healthy in a way,
01:22:04and very practical, and hardworking, work the land, work the farms women, married lots of kids,
01:22:14and hardworking, baking, and creating, and managing, and they did some homeschooling,
01:22:19if I remember rightly, and just very solid, sensible women. Like my mother was this Tennessee
01:22:25Williams caricature of femininity, and these women were very sort of solid, sensible, and
01:22:30practical, and very Christian. And every time I lived with them, which I did from time to time
01:22:34as a kid, I would go to church, and they would grill me on church matters, and make sure that
01:22:40my Christianity was fully founded within my soul, and all kinds of wonderful stuff. So
01:22:47Oliver's entire fairly wonderful family is based upon that side of my family, and Oliver is me
01:22:55if I had remained under their tutelage and protection, because I would stay with them
01:23:01on a somewhat regular basis. Now, my mother was hospitalized for depression for months after I
01:23:08was born, and I was raised in that sense by an aunt who, well, I mean, my middle name is
01:23:17named after her husband, and she was so close to me that she actually named one of her later
01:23:20children after me. So we were very, very close, and I think that had a big effect on my
01:23:25emotional and psychological development. Other family members weren't quite so lucky.
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01:24:28spinal traction language excavations is just great. It's great.
01:24:33All right, going once, going twice. Could we get a tease on this novel?
01:24:38I'm fascinated by breakups. Fascinated by breakups. This is going to be a novel from the
01:24:49male and female perspective about the disintegration of a marriage based upon ideology, but it's in
01:24:56reverse. It starts at the end and goes back to the beginning. For me, that's a cool structure
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01:25:16and then see it back to the small signs at the beginning. That's the general idea.
01:25:26Because, of course, I've talked now to thousands of people about what were the signs at the
01:25:31beginning. I want people to see the signs at the beginning, but you have to start with
01:25:36the disaster at the end. Yeah, it's current time period. That's right. That's right.
01:25:48Lord knows I've known enough breakups and I, of course, have heard of enough breakups in my
01:25:52call-in shows that I have really, really, really quite a lot of material to work with, so that's
01:25:59great. I just want it to be truly heartbreaking when you see how ideology destroys the heart.
01:26:11Sounds interesting. It's already on my reading list. Good, good. I mean, it'll probably get
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