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"Party Jay Andar Kuch IssuesChal Rahe Hain Laikn..." Ali Muhammad Khan's Shocking Revelations
"Party Jay Andar Kuch IssuesChal Rahe Hain Laikn..." Ali Muhammad Khan's Shocking Revelations
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00:00There are a lot of rumours going around about these negotiations.
00:04There are a lot of negotiations going on.
00:06On one hand, the government is negotiating with Maulana Fazlur Rehman.
00:10Maulana Fazlur Rehman is talking to Pakistan before that, with Tehreek-e-Insaf.
00:13Tehreek-e-Insaf wants to talk to the army, but with Tehreek-e-Insaf,
00:18Tehreek-e-Tahfuz-e-Ayn-e, who is standing in Pakistan,
00:22he wants to talk to the government.
00:24A strange circle has been formed and they are running after each other,
00:27but nothing substantial has come out of it yet.
00:30And maybe it won't even be visible in the near future.
00:33But yesterday's programme, yesterday in my show,
00:36Barrister Aqeel made it very clear.
00:38And that has caused a stir, because till now,
00:41from any government circle, from any side,
00:44after talking to Maulana Fazlur Rehman,
00:46there was no talk of a breakthrough.
00:48But yesterday, what did he say?
00:50Tell me, who is becoming an ally?
00:52The people we are meeting these days.
00:54Maulana?
00:55Maulana Fazlur Rehman, JUI, is becoming an ally of the government.
01:00This is breaking news.
01:01A lot of things have gone ahead.
01:03Maulana has asked for time for the meetings.
01:06You need 4-5 votes for the BTI, right?
01:09Your calculation is correct.
01:10When you have the numbers and the numbers are complete,
01:13only then can you talk to the government.
01:14This is air firing.
01:15There are about 10 people who are in contact with you.
01:18I can neither confirm nor deny.
01:20Out of those 10-12 people,
01:22there are some people who have guaranteed you that they will vote.
01:25I can neither confirm nor deny.
01:29Now, the matter of confirming or denying has been taken care of,
01:31but Maulana Fazlur Rehman is becoming an ally.
01:33You must have understood this clearly.
01:36But, if Maulana Fazlur Rehman becomes an ally of the government,
01:40will he hit a stone on his own head?
01:42This is what Mr. Asad Kaisar is saying.
01:45Look, these are his own political decisions.
01:47He will think about it.
01:48We have an understanding with him that
01:50we will have a giant opposition in Nationalist India.
01:53But, the way he has run the government,
01:56whoever comes in contact with him,
01:57whoever is close to him,
01:58he will dig his own political grave.
02:01Now, there are two sides to the PTI.
02:02On one hand, he says that we should talk to the political parties.
02:05It should happen.
02:06It should continue.
02:08Because, by talking to the political parties,
02:09the matters will move forward.
02:11There should be a discussion.
02:12But, Mr. Rao Fasan has said in an interview to Voice of America
02:15that we still have to talk.
02:17If we have to talk, we have to talk to the voice.
02:19I hope and pray that this deadlock doesn't continue.
02:22As you know, our position has always been that
02:24we want to engage with them.
02:26Our doors are open to talk to them.
02:29For the benefit of the government,
02:30the discussion between the PTI and the establishment is extremely important.
02:34Ali Amin Gandapur has said that he has contact with the establishment.
02:38This will depend on the individual basis of the people.
02:40It has been revealed in the postponement of this Jalsa
02:42that a kind of contact can be made.
02:44It has been revealed.
02:46Now, on the other hand,
02:47when he was asked to talk to the political parties,
02:50did you start talking about ifs and buts?
02:53Mr. Khan had given him permission that
02:55if he wants to contact the political parties
02:58and get positive results,
03:01he is allowed to do so.
03:02He is trying to meet them.
03:05Now, the government has been saying for a long time
03:07that we should talk.
03:08Talks are good.
03:09Matters have to be rectified.
03:11This has been said.
03:12In the past,
03:13from the economy of MISA,
03:15to the discussion table,
03:17invitations were also given.
03:19But now, it seems that the government,
03:21especially in PMLN,
03:22there is a group of people
03:24who do not want any kind of discussion
03:26on Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf.
03:28They want to be careful and stay behind.
03:30They say that there is no need to discuss.
03:32Mr. Hassan Iqbal and Khawaja Asif's talks are in front of you.
03:34But their unity,
03:36Pakistan People's Party,
03:37is in favor of discussion.
03:41If discussions are being held,
03:42it is a very good thing.
03:43All parties should discuss
03:45on national interests.
03:47Including Tariq-e-Insaf.
03:49The Prime Minister should take the lead.
03:51That is the initiative.
03:52The People's Party has always discussed.
03:56Yes, we were in opposition.
03:58We were in exile.
03:59We signed the Charter of Democracy.
04:02We support national issues.
04:04For the security and safety of the country,
04:07all parties should discuss and unite.
04:12Now it seems that the government
04:14will need to discuss with each other
04:16whether to talk to PGI or not.
04:18Whether to reach out or not.
04:19But only the government will not need
04:21to discuss with each other.
04:23Right now, there is a need for discussion
04:25in Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf as well.
04:26Because Shakeel Ahmed Khan,
04:27who has been put aside
04:29for corruption cases and allegations,
04:31has been put aside by the cabinet.
04:33He says that the allegations
04:35that have been put on me,
04:37I will clear them.
04:38I am waiting for 8th September.
04:40After that, what secrets will be revealed.
04:42This is a dilemma for now.
04:44The differences in Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf
04:46have started to emerge openly.
04:48Whether it is Punjab or KPK.
04:50Whether it is party matters.
04:52Whether it is the matter of bringing
04:54Imran Khan back from jail.
04:56Not only the party,
04:57but the family is also talking openly.
04:59Alima Khan's conversation was very clear.
05:01The message was that this leadership
05:04does not want to get Imran Khan out of jail.
05:06What is the reality of the situation?
05:08We will talk about this.
05:09Ali Muhammad Khan is with us.
05:11He is the senior leader of Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf.
05:13Thank you very much, Ali Muhammad Khan.
05:14You joined us.
05:15Pleasure having you in the program.
05:16First of all, let's talk about
05:18Shakeel Ahmed Khan.
05:19He was also from the old Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf.
05:21The supporters of him,
05:23Junaid and Atif Khan,
05:25are also old friends of Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf.
05:27On the other hand,
05:28Ali Ameen Gandapur is also an old friend of Imran Khan.
05:31Are these differences,
05:33or is it something else?
05:35According to the PK of the Governor,
05:37this is a matter of Dihari.
05:40Thank you very much.
05:41In the name of God, the Most Gracious, the Ever Merciful.
05:43Allahumma salli ala Muhammadin wa ala alihi wa sahbihi wa sallim.
05:46If I say that there are no problems,
05:49or there are no misunderstandings between us,
05:52then that would be very far from the truth.
05:56There are some issues,
05:58but there is no such thing
06:00that there is an issue with Wazir-e-Ala Ali Ameen Khan's ministry,
06:03or there is a deadlock in the run of the government,
06:06or there is an issue with Tariq-e-Insaf,
06:09in which our real cause is
06:11Mr. Imran Khan and our other supporters,
06:14including Shah Mehmood Qureshi,
06:16the Vice Chairman,
06:17everyone's release,
06:18and the return of the mandate.
06:20So I don't think there is such a serious concern.
06:23But there are issues.
06:25And there are two levels of work being done on that.
06:28There is the Supreme Court Committee,
06:30and the senior leadership,
06:32which means that you don't have any office
06:35above the former President, Mr. Arif Alvi.
06:38So they are also playing a role in this.
06:42But when will the role practically come to the resolution of all these things?
06:47Today, Mr. Shaqeel Khan said,
06:49I am just waiting for September 8th.
06:51After that, I will bring all these things forward.
06:54This is alarming, Ali Muhammad Khan Sahib.
06:56These matters have not been resolved yet.
06:58Mr. Arif Alvi has been given this responsibility,
07:00but it has not been fulfilled yet.
07:04Look, Mr. Junaid,
07:06I will say one thing.
07:08You have talked about the Governor, Mr. Kondi.
07:11He is a constitutional post.
07:13For a long time, he has been the Deputy Speaker of his Jamaat.
07:18He should be aware of this.
07:20But it has been a decade.
07:23He came to the media and defended his Jamaat very well.
07:26But when you become a Governor,
07:28you come to a constitutional post.
07:31You can't act like a political worker of some political party.
07:36I don't think such a statement of his is a sign of his office.
07:40If something comes from our Prime Minister,
07:43then the post of the Prime Minister is a political post.
07:45He will talk.
07:47But in my opinion, Mr. Governor is a representative of loyalty there.
07:51He is not a worker of the Impulse Party.
07:53The rest of the political workers will talk about themselves.
07:56But I think he will realize this.
07:59Now, let's talk about Mr. Junaid.
08:03Mr. Junaid Khan, Mr. Shakeel Khan and Mr. Aqib Khan.
08:07I think all three of them are my party's sustainers.
08:11Mr. Junaid Khan is a worker of Mr. Imran Khan in 1997.
08:15I can tell you this,
08:17without talking to them,
08:20that they will not compromise on Mr. Imran Khan.
08:24They will not compromise on the core ideology of the party.
08:28They will not say anything that will harm justice.
08:32If Mr. Shakeel Khan has some issues related to corruption,
08:36then that can be solved by misunderstanding within the party.
08:40But if there are issues related to corruption,
08:44then they will be cleared by the court.
08:47I have not seen the report of the committee there.
08:51But that will also be judged by the court.
08:55But I don't think there is any issue.
08:59You don't think there is any issue.
09:03One more thing.
09:05Yesterday, I spoke in a program of Mr. Afsar Alam.
09:09You also have a big platform.
09:11For 40-45 years,
09:13look,
09:15for 40-45 years,
09:17there have been governments of Noon and People's Party in Sindh and Punjab, respectively.
09:21But,
09:23you must have never heard such issues from within.
09:25Because there is no issue of corruption there.
09:27There is no merit issue there.
09:29There is no accountability issue there.
09:31You must have never heard a voice from within
09:33that there has been corruption here.
09:35Or someone will ask you,
09:37that you are charged with corruption.
09:39Why do these voices come from you?
09:41In Pakistan's politics,
09:43the power of politics,
09:45these communities never raise these issues.
09:47That's why you hear voices from within.
09:49Your perspective is very interesting.
09:51Because there is justice.
09:53Otherwise, these two communities are pushing each other.
09:55And you don't even know.