Friday Fury with Adrian Oprea

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Fake gurus. Snake oil salesmen. And even non-expert financial advice. No, that’s now what we’re doing. That’s what we’re calling out. And in this Friday Fury, my last film of the year, I wanted it to be unique. So I enlisted a good friend, who I met on LinkedIn, Adrian Oprea, to join us as we wave farewell to the charlatans of 2021.

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00:00:00This is going to be a great episode. I'm speaking with Adrian. I met Adrian on LinkedIn, I do believe,
00:00:06and we're constantly talking on LinkedIn about specific topics and we're going to go through it
00:00:12in these, so just try to watch as much as you can. It's a long video, it's about an hour long,
00:00:17but we basically go through talking about fake gurus. Now, there will be swearing, there's going
00:00:24to be grown-up language. If you're not a grown-up and you don't like swearing, then don't bother
00:00:28watching this. It is a Friday Fury episode and I really hope you enjoy it. Here's our conversation.
00:00:36You know, I'm getting to that stage. You know, I want, you know, I've been thinking about this
00:00:42for a while. I've kind of wanted to be myself more and I am when I am with my clients and stuff and I
00:00:50think, you know, we're talking about marketing and fake gurus and stuff, that they're all,
00:00:58it's all synthetic. It's no real people anymore and I woke up this morning knowing that I was
00:01:05going to do this recording with you and I thought, I want to get rid of people that post inspirational
00:01:15hustle porn type stuff, which is what we've been talking about recently and I did and I
00:01:22got rid of quite a few. I don't follow that many people anyway on Twitter this is
00:01:27and I got rid of about seven of them and I'm already, even this morning, I'm feeling, ah,
00:01:33this is actually quite nice, you know, and I want to get back into following real people with their
00:01:41real, with their realness and when I started doing my videos originally, I didn't want it
00:01:49to be produced or anything. I just wanted it to be me in front of the camera, right?
00:01:56The whole black and white thing came, we talked about this last time, right? So,
00:02:00listeners who are listening in, we recorded this last week and the app that we were using,
00:02:07ah, Welder, I'm not naming and shaming, it was just shit and it fucked up my mic and
00:02:14it fucked up the transcription. So, just letting you know, that's why we're doing this again, so.
00:02:21Yeah, it's a meta actually. We're going meta because we're recording about the recording,
00:02:27right? We're recording about the recording, yeah. That really irritated me, but yeah, I want to,
00:02:32I wanted to follow normal people and when I did my videos, I didn't want it to be produced and
00:02:39stuff. So, I just wanted to be me and do the ums and the ahs and stuff, not too much. I mean,
00:02:45if you do it too much, then it's, it sounds silly. You got to, you still got to be presentable in a
00:02:51way, but I wanted to be me. My dog walks in now and again, you know, or he walks down the stairs
00:02:58and I'm like, oh, sorry, wait, he's walking down the stairs. I mean, why not? Because that's real
00:03:02life, right? Yeah, it's actually funny. I actually kicked my cat out of here because cats are
00:03:10different. Like a dog doesn't just jump on the table, but the cat does it and you're gonna see
00:03:16her like wagging her tail, like going around over here, like what you got here? But the funny thing
00:03:24is that, so you mentioned that you were doing some like feed pruning, which is actually a topic
00:03:31that I have in Basecamp. So, it's already like scheduled for recording for my podcast, which is
00:03:38like how to make your feeds a little bit more valuable for yourself. For yourself. And I actually
00:03:45saw your tweet, but what I wanted to tell you was that yesterday evening, I was with my daughter at
00:03:54my computer and I was showing her one of the like the latest videos that I've made, the latest
00:04:00episodes of the podcast. And she was asking me like, since when are you doing this? Because she's
00:04:08like, she wasn't like very into what I was doing. And I'm like, since you were about four, like I've
00:04:13done videos when you were four. And she's like, show me. And I show her the video and she's like,
00:04:21you look younger, you have more hair, you blah, blah, blah, blah. And then we get into this talk
00:04:27as she's like almost nine. And she's a perfectionist. And I don't like that. And I don't like that
00:04:36because she resembles me a lot in that. But the perfectionism that she, well, I wouldn't say
00:04:44suffers from, but like the, that I see in her is the type of what is usually called toxic
00:04:52perfectionism. So because she can't do something perfectly, she won't even try. And I keep telling
00:04:58her like, that's wrong. Yeah. You got to try because otherwise, if you don't do, you're not
00:05:04going to get good at something. And then I showed her actual footage, like see this 15 minute video
00:05:10that you liked. Here's an hour of me like sweating and puffing and huffing and, and we laughed. And
00:05:17she was like looking at them and she was going like, oh, so you took one hour to record this
00:05:2310 minute, nine minute video. And I'm like, yeah. And I was sweating and swearing like hell.
00:05:30I tried to jump, skip over the swear words. Cause like, I'm going to wait until she's like 15,
00:05:3416 to like enrich her vocabulary. But, but yeah, you could, you, you, you like native English
00:05:44speakers would say that I, I definitely demonstrated the diversity of the word.
00:05:49Fuck. Right.
00:05:54Brilliant. You know, it's, do you know the boondock saints, the movie? Yeah. So you know,
00:06:01the scene where like, they go into the hotel room where Rocco, the, like the long hair guy was
00:06:08supposed to like kill some mafia guys and like become a maid. Oh no. So it's, it's with these
00:06:16two Irish brothers that there are like some sort of, uh, you know, uh, what do they call them?
00:06:23Like event, not Avengers vigilante stuff, you know? Yeah. Right. And so they have this friend
00:06:30who's kind of in the mafia, but he's like a package boy. Right. And he gets sent by his boss
00:06:36to, um, um, kill some guys that were having a meeting in this hotel room. And these guys go
00:06:45to kill the same bad guys and they entered a room, they kill everyone. And then Rocco, the guy,
00:06:51this, uh, career guy was at the door pretending to be service room service, you know, to enter
00:06:58and kill them. And they decide to play a prank on him. And you know, like they've roughed him up a
00:07:04little bit and then look at the gun and realize that they sent him the, the, his boss sent him
00:07:10with a gun with four bullets to kill six guys. So when everything chills, yeah. When everything
00:07:18chills, like the guy goes, what the fucking fuck. And he keeps going and going and going.
00:07:24And then one of the guys go, that certainly illustrates the diversity of the word.
00:07:27Fuck. And so, yeah, I was thinking something else. I gotta, I gotta go and check that out,
00:07:33but yeah, it's an old movie. It's not easy making these, these videos really. And when I first
00:07:40started, uh, yeah, I was, I am a perfectionist as well, but I gave it a go. And I remember the first
00:07:48video I made, it's still there. It was actually by accident. It was a conversation I was having
00:07:54with someone. And then I thought, wait, if I cut this up, this is what tech minimalism is.
00:08:00And that was my first video. It was like, uh, I think it was a 45 minute conversation, which I
00:08:07just recorded myself. I obviously I was recording me, not the guy. So I just cut out what, uh,
00:08:15when he was talking and just carried on with me. And that was it. And I thought this will be good
00:08:20idea, but it took forever to fricking edit it took forever. Right. And then after that, I thought,
00:08:27you know, let me be the Casey nice that let me go and do the videos and, and, you know,
00:08:31and it took me forever. So I was making a video a month and it was taking forever,
00:08:36but being the tech minimalist, I am, I was like, I've got to hone this down now again, because of
00:08:44I've done so many videos from the time of the idea to the time of actually posting. It's about
00:08:5135 minutes, 40 minutes max. And that's including everything because again, I don't, I, uh, there
00:08:59was a, uh, short period ago, short time ago, I was told to start posting everywhere and I did.
00:09:07So at the time took a bit longer, but usually I only post to a couple of places and edit. I mean,
00:09:13I don't really edit, I don't, um, color grade cause it's black and white basically.
00:09:20So it makes it a lot easier. Um, but yeah, if you don't start, you ain't going to get good,
00:09:27which is basically the, what you're saying. That's precisely it. That's precisely it. Uh,
00:09:33cause like to end every, like to, to close the loop, I showed her that video and then how long
00:09:40it took me to make the video, how, how, how many takes I had to, to, to go through. And then, uh,
00:09:49we went back to my latest two podcast episodes and she's like, but you don't seem to be cutting
00:09:56here. And I'm like, because I didn't, I have 30 seconds to a minute of me like, uh, sitting
00:10:03around and getting into the mood before I started speaking. And then there's the end where I have
00:10:07to put like a little bit amusing and music and cut before, like I turn my face away from the
00:10:13screen and look somewhere else, you know? Right. Right. Right. That's it. Like it's continuous.
00:10:17And she's like, you did it in one fell swoop. And I'm like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Talked. But
00:10:23what about the ums and ahs? Cause she's like, you seem to be interrupting at some point and
00:10:28like what she can understand. Cause she's, she doesn't speak English right now. She understands
00:10:34parts of the discourse. She has a vocabulary, but she's not an English speaker. And she's like,
00:10:40I can tell you're stuttering and you're interrupting yourself. And, uh, you don't,
00:10:46isn't that bothersome? And I'm like, to who's interested to, to, to the people who are
00:10:51interested in the information that I'm giving? No, that's not, they're just going to skip it.
00:10:57Yeah, it's true. I mean, that's where I was going to come to it. It's, it, it's got to sound good.
00:11:02The audio quality is going to be good, but your, uh, the next tier down is the content, the actual
00:11:09story, the, the, the information. And if that's good, then the ums and ahs don't matter too much.
00:11:16There is a guy on YouTube. I watch a lot of van life videos as a guy on YouTube and he makes
00:11:21great videos, great content, great ideas, but I can't watch him because he goes, um, all the time.
00:11:29Um, you know, who has, uh, uh, like that? It's someone old Graham from white combinator. He has
00:11:38this hump. Oh yeah. He does this like frequently and it's, it's distracting, but it's actually
00:11:46beneficial to one point because if you go like you drift off and he goes like, hum, you just
00:11:51come back. Cause it's just like this cycle, you know? It's like, it's weird because as I said,
00:11:58with this guy, I like the content, but I just can't watch it because of that. And to people
00:12:02who are listening, don't worry about your, I'm not going to, I'm going to call it mannerisms,
00:12:08but it's not just mannerisms. It's just the way you speak the way you are, because just because
00:12:14someone won't like it, there's other people who will. He's got thousands of followers,
00:12:18right? So people do like it. So, um, whoever's listening, just get on with it and do it. Don't
00:12:26worry about what people say because you're making it for yourself and giving the information out
00:12:31there. And if people don't like it, they'll just do something else. If they troll you,
00:12:35don't even bother listening to it. Cause what's, what's the point? I got trolled once or twice,
00:12:40but it was like nothing. Not many people, you know, worry about that kind of stuff.
00:12:46I guess it depends on, on, on how you take trolling. Like I was also talking to someone and
00:12:54he asked me, um, why are you doing these? I saw you, no, he said, I saw you're trying to become
00:13:03a content creator. So you might watch this and that and that. And I'm like, no man, I'm not
00:13:09trying to become a content creator. Cause you don't see me going like, Hey guys, welcome to my,
00:13:14and then, you know, the, the clapping and the fist bumping and the, uh, you know, snapping the
00:13:22fingers, the, all those ticks that, uh, uh, you to content creators have, right? Uh, I'm not doing
00:13:31it for that. I'm doing this, uh, to serve as a personal historian so that when I do have to make
00:13:38up my success story, I won't, I mean, I'm going to have the, you know, the historian tell me like,
00:13:45no, no, no, you were, that was a lucky guess. You were stupid over there. This is what you did wrong.
00:13:51You just kind of stumbled and fell into it half, you know, halfway through. And I don't end up like
00:13:57inventing some hero story for people, you know, I've always knew. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, exactly.
00:14:04Well, this is the thing. Why do I do it? I do it for, it was to start with content. It was kind
00:14:11of content marketing. It was like being top of mind, making videos. But then I realized quickly
00:14:16that I've got a lot more to say. So they kind of morphed into something else into kind of ideas of
00:14:24simplicity and simplifying, well, you know, being a tech guy, simplifying your tech stuff and things
00:14:30like that. And I think in 2022 is going to be morphed into something else, but we all have
00:14:36stories. We all have ideas that we could share. And especially for people like you and I who work
00:14:44on our own, I mean, it's a bit different with you because you have a family, there's people around.
00:14:51There are a lot of people like me who there are no one around other than the dog, right? So
00:14:56getting my information out, it's more to do with getting it out of my head and hoping someone else
00:15:03would listen to it than anything else. Because when you work on your own, you still need people
00:15:11to bounce off ideas. And that's what social media in a way is great for. So circling back to what
00:15:18we were saying at the beginning, kind of organize your feed in such a way where it's beneficial to
00:15:23you. And that's kind of working for me as well, actually, in that way. So I'm really happy with
00:15:31it. I mean, these fake gurus and stuff that we've been talking about this for a few weeks now,
00:15:36to be honest, online, and they just irritate the bejesus out of me. I mean, that thing that I posted
00:15:42on LinkedIn, I didn't tag him or anything. It's like, fuck this. These people see who he is.
00:15:48You know, I just took a picture of it. And it's like, what are you actually saying? What do you
00:15:53like? Oh, I sent you the screenshot from the PDF book, the ebook, the thing like, these people are
00:16:03literally following the same influencers, the same thought leaders, right? With big air quotes here.
00:16:12And they're probably some of them end up spending hundreds of dollars, if not more,
00:16:20on the special courses, workshops, three day events, whatever the gurus and the influencers
00:16:29put together. And then they start parroting out the same things. I actually made a video
00:16:35while like I filmed the screen of the computer with your post open with that.
00:16:41Oh, yeah.
00:16:42But I only posted it. Yeah, I only posted it on Instagram, because that's, that's really not
00:16:47something you want to put on Twitter. Because it was more of a, it was not making fun of I'm gonna
00:16:53send it to you, you're gonna, you're gonna see it and probably have a laugh. But, you know, with
00:16:58doing voices and all that, that's not not appropriate for for LinkedIn. And by any stretch
00:17:05of the imagination, it's more suited than like the motivational bullshit that we see over there. But
00:17:11still, I thought it wasn't for that platform. Yeah. But you said something very interesting
00:17:17about one of your reasons for sharing what you know, and it is to get out of your mind and get
00:17:29things out of your mind and into the basically, it's a way for you to communicate, to disperse
00:17:37some of your ideas and knowledge, and maybe to collect some feedback and some information about
00:17:44the knowledge. And there are two quotes that I remember from reading, I believe Jordan Peterson's
00:17:53book. I don't know if you know who Jordan? Yeah, of course. Yeah. Okay. So in 12, I think in 12
00:17:58rules for life, I've met both of those quotes, which is one of them, it takes a village to
00:18:04organize a mind. And the topic of the chapter where I found this quote was probably about like,
00:18:13you know, having a family, a tightly knit group around you and stuff like that. And how,
00:18:19if you're alone, by the time you get to your 50s, it's going to be harder for you if you don't have
00:18:24like, really close friends, like alone in the sense of not having a family. And the other quote,
00:18:32which ties into to, to the first one very, very well is the, the faintest pencil is better than
00:18:46the sharpest of minds, which is something that's more or less telling you to write stuff down,
00:18:54you know, like, this is why I keep stuff like this, laying around. And, you know, I keep buying
00:19:00stuff down. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I started doing that a bit more. I have an app called day
00:19:07one, which I love. I've been using it since 2014. I love it. It's great. And I've been using it on
00:19:15and off. I'm not a writer, I can't write, I'm useless at it. But I can type, and I can type
00:19:23quite well. And I'm very good at very short form stuff. So just getting ideas out quotes and stuff.
00:19:29I have it in my dock on the phone. And also on the Mac, you know, keyboard shortcut, and then I
00:19:36just put stuff there. And it's great. So that helps me get ideas for my videos that helps me get ideas
00:19:44for where I want to go and things like that. So writing stuff down is absolutely a great thing.
00:19:51The video thing is kind of more an updated version of that in a way, because it's like,
00:19:59yes, I've written this quote down, but there's a there's a feeling and an idea behind it.
00:20:04Hence why I make the videos. Videos are amazing. In fact, I posted something about it. I love video.
00:20:11I just really do love video. And I always have, but I've never really done it up. And I only started
00:20:18it like two years ago kind of thing. And I think the reason why it works well for me,
00:20:25or, you know, carried on doing it in that way is because I really enjoyed the idea of video
00:20:31in the past. I've had so many different types of cameras and stuff.
00:20:36So I've always really liked video. And what I usually do, if someone emails me a question,
00:20:42or if I have a question support request, or a bug or whatever, this is what happens with
00:20:48I found the bug in Hey, actually, the really stupid bug, which I can't believe no one else
00:20:53mentioned it. But you can create a note. But I didn't want the note. So I deleted it.
00:21:02It was deleted, I refreshed the page, and the note was still there. And I couldn't understand
00:21:07it. So I made a video and explained it. And I was like, is this a bug or a feature?
00:21:11Sometimes they come back with it's a feature, which is really stupid.
00:21:15So I made the video sent the video, and they fixed it within two emails.
00:21:19He said, Oh, we never knew about this, blah, blah. And it's now fixed, we push to fix and
00:21:25it's now fixed. Because they saw the video, which is great, because I they said they actually
00:21:32said it, and I screenshotted it and posted it. Really liked the video was great, blah, blah.
00:21:37So video for me is, it's really, it really helps me communicate what I want to say.
00:21:44You want to know why? Because video, just this, just the same as writing things down
00:21:54on a whiteboard, for example, respect the principle of show, don't tell, don't tell.
00:22:02Yes. Yeah.
00:22:03I love that. Like, I, I learned it back in 2009, I believe, I found 2010, I think,
00:22:14whatever, back into stone ages. So when I read a book called the back of the napkin by Dan Rome,
00:22:24which is a book about visual note taking. And the concept was their show don't tell.
00:22:33And then it got strengthened. When I was following some tutorials on this
00:22:40web development tutorials website called Can I name them? Can I go for it?
00:22:46egghead.io, which is a great platform haven't used it for years, but they had pretty decent
00:22:54courses and in their article for authors, if you're a course author, they would give you like,
00:23:01this is the hardware you need. This is how you set it up like their whole onboarding was an
00:23:05article, right? And when they would tell you about the videos, how to structure them, this was the
00:23:14most important part show don't tell. So this means that you have the code written. And then you talk
00:23:23about the code you explain after you show after you reveal the code or after you write it, right?
00:23:30And you summarize at the end always, and you don't start every video with, Hey, guys, today,
00:23:36we're gonna learn about the blah, blah, blah, no get straight into it. Yeah, I love that. If you
00:23:42can, if you're interested in that, although like your video, your style of video is pretty no BS,
00:23:49no fluff. So yeah, it is no fly. And you know, there's a there's a hip hop artist, and I've got
00:23:58to find it. I've got to find it. I've got the 12 inch and I got to find it. And back in the
00:24:07late 80s, it came out this record, I put the needle on and it just came into the music,
00:24:13it just beat there was no intro, there was no pads, nothing beat. And I was like, damn, this
00:24:18is good. And whenever I make my videos, it reminds me of how I start my videos like that, because I
00:24:25literally just get into it. Because the thing is, when you, you know, sometimes when you listen to
00:24:30podcasts, there's like 10 minute of fluff of who are you, where are you links, blah, whatever it
00:24:36is, although the links go at the end. It's like fluff, who the fuck is listening to this shit?
00:24:42I mean, you, there's no reason for it. The point is to get your point across to have that
00:24:49conversation. And hopefully, someone likes part of that conversation, and they carry on with it
00:24:55and carry on listening to it. But to go through that fluff, it's just it's a recipe they're using.
00:25:01Of course it is. But everything now sounds the same. Everything looks the same. Yeah, but this
00:25:09is the thing to be wants to be but then nowhere in like him because he also just gets into it.
00:25:16It's only at the beginning where Joe Rogan podcast, blah, blah, music. Hey, how you doing?
00:25:23It's it's straight in. There's no bullshit with him. And it's always been like that with him.
00:25:28Right. So the point is to have a conversation and people like it. What's the point of giving
00:25:33all this crap? It's like webinars. We've spoken about webinars in the past. You get an hour
00:25:39webinar, 45 minute webinar. And it's like 40 minutes of absolute pure utter shit. And then
00:25:46five minutes of you got to buy my course or you got to buy this. It's like, why am I here? You
00:25:52know, so I stopped looking at I just basically I'm stopping with all that crap. And I think everyone
00:26:00should. I guess this is why we're bothered about this. It's very has of recipes. So I don't know
00:26:08where I found this. But authenticity itself is not beneficial. I mean, if you're your authentic
00:26:18self is that of an asshole? Oh, yeah. Right. Don't be authentic. Right. Right. Right. So
00:26:25I mean, it has to be pawn upon pondered. No pondering is like being thinking decisive,
00:26:33right? Yeah. It has to be thought, thought through, right? You got to put a balance over
00:26:38there. But at the same time, you got to let a little bit of yourself out. Because turning back
00:26:46to what I said, this is what bothers us. It's recipes. So podcasts, right? For podcasts, you
00:26:51have like, intro, talk about what the episode is about what you're going to get. And then you're
00:26:58going to leave a hook but like for the end so that people stick in and then you get into the
00:27:02meat of the problem. Then you reiterate the problem you just talked about the topic. And
00:27:07then you go links like share, subscribe, social media, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Right? Yeah,
00:27:12same with these not not workshops. And we're going to go into the fake gurus stuff. But like with
00:27:18self development stuff. Yes, you get on the website, you get the pop, you want to click exit,
00:27:25you know, there are these exit pop ups. Yeah. People need to know like, some of those pop ups,
00:27:32some of them are just when you scroll and you get like subscribe to the newsletter. But others
00:27:38are called exit pop ups. So when you go towards the sorry, I want to ask this. Go ahead. Yeah,
00:27:45please. I'm gonna keep on rolling. Okay, I'm gonna wait for you actually. Or do you want me to
00:27:54like go through? Yeah, we're just gonna wait for for the director to come back into his high chair.
00:28:08So unfortunately, there's no do not disturb on the on the, you know, you get a parcel and the
00:28:13podcast carries on. I think you do have a do not disturb. It's called a dog.
00:28:21Yeah, you put it there just waiting. Wow. Sorry about that. Yeah, you were saying yeah,
00:28:28about the recipes. Yes. So I was saying that with even with like self development,
00:28:36like same thing with recipes. I was explaining about some of the types of pop ups you might
00:28:42see on a website and leading into the way they collect your email and how you get into a funnel.
00:28:48So some of those pop ups are made to appear when you go to the exit. Like yes, if you want to go
00:28:56to top right, top left to like close the window or close the tab. That's when they pop up. And
00:29:01so they ask for your email, right? So give us your email and we'll send you this free PDF,
00:29:06you give them the email, they send you the free PDF, then they enroll you in the five day email
00:29:12campaign course with like workflows. And then they invite you to the webinar in the webinar,
00:29:18they do what you said, talk 45 minutes of bullshit. Yes. And then trying to sell you on
00:29:26their course, for example, right? And okay, like, I'm going to be the devil's advocate here. The
00:29:33purpose of a webinar usually is to help you decide whether you one of the purposes is to help you
00:29:40decide whether the whatever is being sold is suitable for you or not. But if you ship 45
00:29:50minutes of what we say shit under pressure, you know, like in the shit trucks? Yes. Yeah,
00:29:57that's not like don't do it. But then they sell you on the course, you go by the course,
00:30:03you join the course. You go through with it. If you fail, it's your fault, of course, because
00:30:09it's your fault. You did not you did not push hard enough. You weren't dedicated enough. Yeah,
00:30:14then you buy the book, then you buy the private, like the conference ticket, private island event,
00:30:22and then private mentorship group with guru. And at the end of this all, all of all of this,
00:30:30you are in debt. Yes, absolutely. Most people, some people go in debt for this.
00:30:36There's that there's a guy, I don't you may know him on YouTube. He's got a massive following. And
00:30:42I really like his content called coffee Zilla. It's amazing. You've watched it, right? You've
00:30:48seen it. I've seen him. I haven't watched him for like three months, I guess. Amazing. There's
00:30:54another guy called Spencer Cornelia. He talks a bit fast, but he has really good content. But
00:31:00coffee Zilla, he he exposes all these fake gurus and stuff. What I want to do with my Friday Fury
00:31:09episodes, which is what this episode is going to be, actually, this is going to be the last video
00:31:14on Friday of the year. Yeah. Yeah. And what I what I want to do with my fake sorry,
00:31:23with my Friday Fury is kind of turn it into a. Because right now, it's basically what, you know,
00:31:33what tech annoys me, what annoys me with tech, what SAS companies annoy me, why have they done
00:31:39it in this way? And I want to expand on that. Basically, I really want to expand on that.
00:31:44And I want to bring in this whole fake bullshit that being sold out there, because sometimes they
00:31:52don't always call it webinars, they call it workshops. But in fact, it's actually just a
00:31:56fucking webinar. You're not learning anything, right? Or you're learning the most stupid,
00:32:02basic fucking shittery on their clubhouses is another form of webinar, basically,
00:32:09which I just stopped using because you get call, you make contact with people, they call you,
00:32:17and they just want to find out who you are and what you do. They're not buying anything,
00:32:22which is fine. You're not always there to sell anything. But just the way in the manner that
00:32:28they try to speak to you. Oh, I'll be good for you. You know, if you come into the clique that
00:32:35we're in and maybe we can get like, get the fuck out of here. And I've had a few of those kind of
00:32:41calls. And it's like, you just pisses me off no end that these fake motherfucking assholes,
00:32:51sorry, cunts just tend to want to gather all these fucking people, but not actually do any
00:32:59fucking work themselves. Do you see how irritated I am? No, I know. I know. You can call it instead
00:33:06of calling it clubhouse, you can call it clap house, because what they do is they want to clap
00:33:11your cheeks financially. Yeah, right. There's another thing that annoys me online. This is a
00:33:19rant episode, I think, is this whole, they call it build in public. This is your wheelhouse in a way.
00:33:30There's a difference between build in public, meaning you're showing,
00:33:35you're helping people, this is how I do it. Did I get it wrong? You know,
00:33:39that's a bit different to when they say build in public, and then they're posting figures,
00:33:44numbers and stuff. How fucking obnoxious that is. Exactly. Right? Yeah. So obnoxious. And it's like,
00:33:52why are you even bothering doing this? Why? For clout, for followers, because people are
00:34:01people aren't going, or I don't know how to put it. People are selling their grannies for clout.
00:34:08No, but I don't want to make it sound like a generalization. But like, at the end of the day,
00:34:13generalization start conversation. So let me say it like that. A lot of people
00:34:19go into business. And by that, I mean, even like start a side hustle. Yeah, only from the judgment
00:34:28of how much am I gonna make? Yes. How much are others making? So if you say I'm building in
00:34:35public, and you're publishing your numbers, what you're what you're doing is you're gathering
00:34:42the flies who want to have a bite of that pile of shit. Yes. Right. So it's, it's that that's what
00:34:51it is on one side. On the other on on, on, on a different note. You do have guys like the guy who
00:35:01build remote, okay, Nomad list and all that stuff. Peter levels, I guess it's his name. I've heard
00:35:09of that name. Actually, this guy has been public with absolutely everything he's built. He's had
00:35:15graph charts, whatever, everything, right. And he is kind of doing it to help you out. Like he's
00:35:24putting everything out there, even statuses of like, cron jobs that are running and sending
00:35:31emails and I don't know, submitting new job postings to directories. Everything is out there.
00:35:39But yeah, that's why I think a lot of them are doing it. And I think it's a trend
00:35:50that I observed by listening to podcasts on like indie hackers, which is a podcast for indie
00:35:58hackers. Yeah. And there are a couple of other ones as well. Everybody who starts building in
00:36:08public, if not with the current project with the next one, they're gonna like stop showing numbers
00:36:15and stuff like that. Because when like there is competition over there, and it's easy to clone
00:36:22anything nowadays, if I want a website like yours, I'll have it by the end of the day. And it'll be
00:36:27up and with ads running, right? Yeah. So that's why you learn right with the first one you build
00:36:38in public, but then you kind of learn to hide the numbers, you start talking like,
00:36:43I mean, there's commas and zeros. And that's it. Yeah, exactly. But the thing is, as you said,
00:36:48I think there are two different reasons why they're building in public. One is to show off
00:36:53and clown to get numbers. And I think that happens way more than I'm here to teach you.
00:37:00Of course, right? Way more. And I think that's the bullshittery that's got to stop. Who's going to
00:37:05stop it? Because basically, they're making money. What I think, and what I feel, and I may be the
00:37:12minority here, is that being ethical on the internet will get you nowhere. That's how I feel.
00:37:19I'm not saying, I mean, again, it's the generalization thing we're talking about,
00:37:24right? So if you look at what's going on the internet, the people who are shouting loudest,
00:37:28the people who are being complete utter fucking fuckwits and assholes are always making money.
00:37:33Look at Jake Paul, for instance. He's an absolute fucking bellend. But he's making money.
00:37:38They're making bank. Look at all this NFT stuff. Seriously, look at all the, you know, I'm not
00:37:44saying all crypto, but you know, look at the crypto space, for instance, the people who are
00:37:49shouting the loudest. But there are people in there that are doing well, are doing, you know,
00:37:57but the problem is, the people who are shouting louder and making these god-awful videos are
00:38:04making the clout, the following, the money way more than the others.
00:38:11That's correct. And you won't be able to put a stop to this.
00:38:16I was having a conversation with, I want to say a friend, she's like an acquaintance,
00:38:23and she was reposting something from a financial education, Instagram account,
00:38:31like that's gained popularity here in Romania. And what I wanted to say is that this is not
00:38:39going to stop unless this is like, it's going to go on until people get smart enough to realize
00:38:52that we can't all be rich and famous. And they're going to spend their money on the shortcuts and on
00:38:59the on cutting corners and on the secret and the recipe and whatever, to no end, and they'll still
00:39:07be poor. And I was telling this person, like, do you like this account? And she's like, Yeah,
00:39:12I love it. It's very valuable. It's very and I'm like, I know the chick who's behind this account.
00:39:18She's a fucking web designer. She's not an investor. She's telling you how to split your
00:39:23stocks. Are you dumb? Yeah, she's a designer. And she grew like, to her point, she grew an account
00:39:32to like over 100,000 followers, I think, or something like that. I'm just going to look
00:39:37right now, just to... But this goes back to what I was saying in our original conversation is that
00:39:44what's ruined the internet is advertising money. That is pure and simple. Because look at Google,
00:39:50they don't give a shit what kind of stuff you post. I mean, you watch the Coffeezilla stuff.
00:39:56Because these people, 100,000 followers and stuff, they're making loads and loads of money
00:40:01with the ads that are being. Now, if she's doing financial stuff, right, those finance
00:40:08people, crypto people are spending loads of money on ads.
00:40:14And they get a portion of it. She's selling a course. Well, there is that as well. But that's
00:40:19the side hustle, right? The hustle is, let me get loads of clicks and loads of views
00:40:28on my YouTube channel. Eyeballs, yeah, correct.
00:40:31So that's my point. So I truly believe advertising has basically fucked up the internet and fucked up
00:40:39what we... What's real and what's not. Like this woman, this girl you're talking about,
00:40:48who's a web designer making, what, investment advice? What the fuck is that?
00:40:53Investment and financial advice and selling a course on that.
00:41:00Crazy.
00:41:01Like I told you, 1,300... I'm sorry, 135,000 followers right now to that account.
00:41:10Started last year. I know the account. I know it since it had like 400 or 500 followers.
00:41:16I'm not jealous or anything. But like, it's like me, we keep saying like, listen to the
00:41:23specialists, look at the doctors about the vaccines and about this and that and the other.
00:41:28But then at the same time, like the same person yelling to me, like, don't use your brain in your
00:41:34opinions, listen to the specialist, then goes to a designer and buys a fucking financial advice
00:41:39course and starts investing. And I'm like, you dumb, you stupid. That's it.
00:41:48It happens all the time. Again, the video is a powerful thing in both sides. I mean,
00:41:54this person's making videos. So then you become, you get to know the person because you think you
00:42:01know the person because you're seeing them in a video, right? Because you're seeing them every
00:42:05day. They don't know you, but you know them because you see them every single day or whatever.
00:42:10So then when they say, I'll go and do this because it's gray, you're like, well, I know this
00:42:16subconsciously, I know this person, let's go and do it.
00:42:20She doesn't even have a face. She only does the Instagram posts. The course, I think is somehow
00:42:26hidden, you know, like you DM for the course or stuff like that. So there's not a photo of her
00:42:33face or a mention of, there are a couple of names mentioned, but like.
00:42:37So then who do we blame? Do we blame the people making these videos or the stupid
00:42:42fucks actually going after these videos, falling for it? Both.
00:42:47Well, both. I don't know. Like if you're a communist, you blame the people who, or socialist,
00:42:54you blame who's making the person who's making the video. But if you're, there's at least a
00:43:00capitalist vein in you, you're going to blame the people who are buying it, right? Because like
00:43:06as a business person, you want to try and sell something, right? So what you could blame the
00:43:13creator of the course and of the account for would be like unethical behavior.
00:43:20Exactly.
00:43:21And if you don't have like disclaimers that this is not financial advice, this is just for fun
00:43:26opinion, blah, blah, blah, blah. The small print over there, you know, at the bottom of the page.
00:43:32Then of course you can like press legal charges.
00:43:35But that's still scummy because I've seen people who say, you know, they say, I mean,
00:43:43Coffeezilla did a thing about this, about this isn't financial advice and they bury it in amongst
00:43:49so much text. So when they have gone to court, they say, well, it's in the text, right?
00:43:56And it's literally buried. It's literally one line, one line or one sentence in amongst all this
00:44:03other shit. It's crazy. Honestly, the internet has got into such a clique mode, craziness,
00:44:11bullshit. And I do blame advertisers. I really do. Because without that, these people wouldn't be
00:44:19making that much money. And it wouldn't go to their heads.
00:44:27Basically, you can draw a parallel here, even with like religion, Christianity.
00:44:32Oh, yeah. Like any religion.
00:44:35Like, listen to me. So we went on crusades. We went on and said, like, those fuckers over there,
00:44:45we got to take their land and make them repent because they're sinners, right?
00:44:50Sinners.
00:44:51Where, where in the books, it is said, like, if you see someone that's not of your religion,
00:44:59kill him, his family, his kids, his wife, whatever, make them repent and take their land.
00:45:06It's the people's interpretation of that. You know, like you get the moral code from religion,
00:45:13you get a set of rules of conduct, how to behave in a society. And they are understandable,
00:45:18even like to the lowest level of intelligence. That's why they're so popular. Like,
00:45:25if you want to look at marketing, you got to look at Jesus. And if you want to look at the
00:45:29best marketing book ever written, you got to read the Bible. But it's the same thing. Like,
00:45:36even with advertising, it's what we what we make with it. That's wrong, not advertising and
00:45:45advertisers. You know, I understand that. I understand that. But if you I'm purely talking
00:45:52about YouTube here. If you think about the incentive that they've given to the content
00:45:59creators, and the way they've done it. That's why I'm saying I blame the advertisers.
00:46:05You're right. Because because they've made it so easy for people to make money. And again,
00:46:11that's a great thing, because there are a lot of people on YouTube that are doing great content,
00:46:15and it's good that they're getting paid for it. The thing is, in all walks of life,
00:46:20in all businesses and everything, there's always assholes that come in and ruin it,
00:46:25basically. And that's the problem. I'm not saying get rid of advertising, because that's stupid,
00:46:30because you need, you know, people need to make money. And that's fine. But they've got to be
00:46:35some, they've got to be curtailed in some way. But the advert, the middleman, in this case,
00:46:42YouTube, Google, whatever, Alpha, whatever you want to call them, they're the middlemen
00:46:47in between the content creator and the advertiser, right? And they don't want to
00:46:53fuck up the amount of money they're making, because they're making a good 40 or 60%.
00:46:58Right? So if these content creators are making, I don't know, 30 grand per video,
00:47:05because some of them are with millions and millions of followers, you think Google are
00:47:10going to go, nah? No, bullshit. So that, in that essence, I'm saying that that's where,
00:47:20you know, the marketing, not marketing, but advertising has ruined the internet,
00:47:26because people are on the internet, to make money. So they make any kind of bullshit,
00:47:32to clickbait, to make the money. And that, right. And that's my problem with it.
00:47:38It's you, what YouTube, and the internet itself has enabled is an era where
00:47:50people with no experience whatsoever, in a given topic, can teach you how to make money
00:48:00and become an expert at that topic. They're called content creators.
00:48:09They just spend their time on the trending page, they look at the trending stuff.
00:48:15Yeah.
00:48:16And they just do the same thing.
00:48:18Yeah. There's loads and loads of videos that are exactly the same, down to the, I mean,
00:48:25again, going back to the Coffeezilla stuff. He's actually shown, you know, four or five
00:48:32different videos, exactly the same thumbnails, exactly the same content. I mean, just exactly
00:48:38fucking the same. But again, what's enabling that? They're making money.
00:48:45Exactly.
00:48:46And that's the thing. So it just irritates me about this whole fake. And when we say,
00:48:55when I say fake guru, I'm putting pretty much everyone into that category, who are complete
00:49:03fuckers on the internet. Whether you're posting an inspirational kind of thing, like I, you know,
00:49:09which what the thing that I clipped and posted yesterday from that guy, like from those people
00:49:17to people on YouTube and selling courses to the woman that you're talking about, who's selling
00:49:23courses on a subject that she knows absolutely nothing about. And I think a few weeks ago,
00:49:28I even posted something about, especially, and this happens a lot on Clubhouse, especially with
00:49:35LinkedIn influencers and stuff, LinkedIn experts. They read the. There are two types of experts.
00:49:47There's an expert who's done his fucking job for 30 years, knows what he's doing.
00:49:53People ask him a question and he can blurt it out. And that's an expert. Right. And so if you're an
00:49:59expert in that field, you can become a coach. You can become a consultant because you're a fucking
00:50:04expert in that field, in that content, in that subject, in that topic. What the internet has
00:50:11enabled and I've noticed a lot on Clubhouse is when they call themselves an expert because they've read
00:50:22the the press release from LinkedIn so they know what's happening
00:50:32and then they have a LinkedIn account and then just put LinkedIn expert.
00:50:37So whenever someone asks them a question because they don't know, rather than pointing them to the
00:50:41actual article, they will say, I'm the expert because I've read this and come and hire me.
00:50:48That to me is charlatan. That's not a fucking expert. You just know more than the next person.
00:50:55It doesn't mean you're a fucking expert. You just means that, you know, more than the next person.
00:51:00An expert is a coach. A proper coach has been through the whole rigmarole of
00:51:07his business, his or her business and knows what they're talking about. It's not just reading
00:51:13one or two fucking articles using the fucking product and then saying, I'm an expert.
00:51:20Just irritates the bejesus out of me. That does, really does.
00:51:24You know what's the thing? I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed, right?
00:51:32Not the brightest bulb in the chandelier.
00:51:34We all are not.
00:51:35So I kind of went back in 2011, I went through like a self-development over consumption phase
00:51:49and I read a lot of like the book, the things that I consider right now to be like the bullshit
00:51:55staple, like the, the staple books of self-development, you know, like the,
00:52:00the think and grow rich, the Dale Carnegie shit, all of that. I've read that.
00:52:06Right.
00:52:06And I couldn't, I could not stomach it. Like, man,
00:52:09I'm going to just get up and show you something.
00:52:11Go for it.
00:52:13So I have this book, right?
00:52:18I can't see it.
00:52:19The 5am Club.
00:52:19Oh yeah.
00:52:20Oh yeah.
00:52:21In Romania.
00:52:21Oh Jesus.
00:52:23Dude, I tried to read it twice. I bought it and I said, I'm, I'm, I'm going to read it. Right.
00:52:29But when I listen, when I, when I read the billionaire story with his apprentices and
00:52:35how the billionaire is teaching him shit, man, you just sound like you're lengthening this
00:52:40fucking story to make the book thicker. And I tried twice, right? I threw up in my mouth.
00:52:46And then I also made the mistake of actually reading a book on sleep,
00:52:49which is like why we sleep by Matthew Walker.
00:52:52Oh wow.
00:52:53And I tried, like I said, I said to myself, cause like in this winter break, so to speak,
00:53:00I said, I'm going to read some of the books that I have like behind me over there.
00:53:04And like I have, if you see, I have two stacks.
00:53:07I see it.
00:53:07One with the one with the statue, those are done.
00:53:11Right.
00:53:11This one is that done because I need to burn it.
00:53:14And the other one that's like in progress. I can't read just one book.
00:53:18Right.
00:53:18But I said, I'm going to read this. I'm going to give it a chance.
00:53:22Fuck the, the, like, I don't want to limit myself.
00:53:25Right. I'm going to be open hearted.
00:53:28I couldn't get past page 20 something.
00:53:30And I'm like, no, fuck this. I'm going to burn it or gift it to someone.
00:53:34Like if you're into BS, I'm not saying what's here is irrelevant.
00:53:40I'm just saying that the story rubs me the wrong way, like very, very badly.
00:53:45Right.
00:53:46So I cannot stomach this.
00:53:48And I was saying that I went through this whole
00:53:52bullshit stories, you know, about self-development,
00:53:56this over consumption phase back in 2011.
00:53:59And at that time, I read some books related to like consulting
00:54:06and developing your own business and stuff like that.
00:54:10Because I've done freelancing since 2008.
00:54:14And then I stopped and then I got a, like an actual job within a company.
00:54:18But I was also, I wanted to like go back to being a business myself, you know.
00:54:24And I read things like Million Dollar Consulting by Alan Weiss.
00:54:30I've read Book Yourself Solid.
00:54:34But why are you reading these books?
00:54:37What was the reasoning behind them?
00:54:38I wanted to understand what is consulting actually,
00:54:45besides what I knew to be like just contracting
00:54:48and being like an extension for a team or an implementer.
00:54:52Right.
00:54:52And with Book Yourself Solid, I wanted to know,
00:54:56it was very popular within like the dev circles at that time.
00:55:01And I wanted to learn how to like build a pipeline of clients and stuff like that.
00:55:06Right.
00:55:06Because I wasn't very experienced.
00:55:08I knew I was lacking.
00:55:10And it was just like the starting point for me.
00:55:13Right.
00:55:14If you just read them through and through and take everything literally, you're done.
00:55:23Yeah.
00:55:23Because like there's a little bit of talk of the Bentley and a little bit of talk of the whatever.
00:55:29And some of those people, because this is where I'm getting
00:55:32with my overconsumption of self-development.
00:55:34Some of the people you mentioned that are, well, selling snake oil.
00:55:40Yeah.
00:55:41Basically.
00:55:42That's what it is.
00:55:43Yeah.
00:55:43They just read these books.
00:55:45They spent 1,500 euros on a webinar that teaches you the secret.
00:55:53And they still haven't learned the secret.
00:55:56So they're parroting out whatever they got in that webinar.
00:56:01And since people, others, are looking for the same get rich quick, lose weight fast,
00:56:08give me a pill, but let me eat whatever, no sacrifice methods.
00:56:15They have who to sell it to.
00:56:18This is the whole thing.
00:56:19If it's too good to be true, it is.
00:56:21And it always is.
00:56:22Because running a business, not a startup, it's a fucking business.
00:56:26It's not a startup.
00:56:28We had this conversation last time.
00:56:31It's hard.
00:56:32Running a business is freaking hard.
00:56:34I've worked for myself for as long as I can remember.
00:56:37And trust me, I've made money and I've lost money many, many times.
00:56:43Right.
00:56:44Many times.
00:56:45And if you don't go through that, you don't learn anything.
00:56:49You just really don't learn anything.
00:56:51So failing is a good thing.
00:56:53So just fucking do shit and fail.
00:56:55But going through and reading all of these books, like you say, and agreeing and then
00:57:02trying to implement every single part of these books just makes no sense to me.
00:57:06I've never read any of those books, any of those type of books at all.
00:57:10Because I know most of it is bullshit.
00:57:14Bullshit to me, because it doesn't work the way I work.
00:57:19I work in a different, this particular way.
00:57:21You work in a particular way.
00:57:23So you're getting things from these books.
00:57:26That's fine.
00:57:27I personally, it doesn't work for me.
00:57:30You don't resonate with them.
00:57:32Sorry?
00:57:33You don't resonate with them.
00:57:34No, not at all.
00:57:36And so it just doesn't.
00:57:37It wouldn't work for me.
00:57:38And to me, for instance, I went through a messy divorce.
00:57:44Everyone said I was depressed.
00:57:46I didn't think of myself as being depressed.
00:57:48I was just pissed off because of this, that and the other.
00:57:53And everyone's saying to me, go and see a therapist.
00:57:56I'm like, no, because I just don't believe in that stuff.
00:57:59I'm not interested.
00:58:01I don't believe in it.
00:58:02And that, to me, is the same as reading those kind of books, because I don't believe in it.
00:58:06Right.
00:58:07And if I don't believe in it, it was no way.
00:58:10My stepmother many years ago was a hypnotist, and she used to do it professionally sometimes.
00:58:16And she hypnotized people in front of me.
00:58:18I actually saw her do it.
00:58:20It was no bullshit, but it would never work on me because I couldn't believe in it.
00:58:26Because you don't believe in it.
00:58:27Don't believe in it.
00:58:28Exactly.
00:58:29So with these type of self-help books, self-help, that phrase in itself, to me, is so cringy
00:58:40that I just don't understand why it exists.
00:58:44Right.
00:58:46So when people are saying, wake up at five o'clock or four o'clock in the morning and
00:58:51get everything done, when the fuck do these people go to sleep?
00:58:54They ain't going to sleep at 10, 11 o'clock at night.
00:58:56They're probably going to sleep at five, six o'clock.
00:58:59So what's the difference between shifting the fucking clock the other way?
00:59:02I mean, it makes no sense.
00:59:04So then there's these hordes of complete fucking arsewits that wake up at four or five in the
00:59:12morning thinking, I'm going to be a millionaire.
00:59:14And they do fuck all because it's not the fact of getting up five o'clock in the morning.
00:59:20It's the fact of getting shit done during the day.
00:59:23I wake up 10 o'clock in the morning.
00:59:26Sometimes I wake up at seven o'clock and I do not get out of bed until about 10.
00:59:30Does that mean I get nothing done?
00:59:32No, I have a successful fucking business.
00:59:35Right.
00:59:35And I have done for many years.
00:59:38So it just really depends on your pace of life, your way of life.
00:59:45What's your rhythm?
00:59:46Like, what's your rhythm?
00:59:47How do you work?
00:59:48That's the thing.
00:59:50Someone said to me, Elizabeth, she might be listening to this.
00:59:53She's a marketeer and stuff.
00:59:55And she has a membership site going.
01:00:00And I was thinking of doing it as well.
01:00:02And I did.
01:00:03It failed because I didn't really put any effort into it.
01:00:07And before I did it, she actually said something that stuck in my mind.
01:00:13She said, you've got to create a membership site that works.
01:00:17I can't remember the exact words she said, but basically works with your rhythm, with
01:00:23your way of working.
01:00:25And I realized membership site would never work for me because my rhythm is so erratic
01:00:31because I want to work when I want to work.
01:00:34And if I have a membership site, that means I have to constantly work.
01:00:37And that's not me, right?
01:00:41Work on the membership site.
01:00:43I mean, I'm always working, but so it just wouldn't work.
01:00:46Hence why it failed.
01:00:48So you have to work in your rhythm.
01:00:50You have to stop listening to other people.
01:00:53Get some information from other people.
01:00:56Even the bullshit that I sell or you sell, whatever.
01:01:00Half of it isn't relative to that one particular person reading it, watching it, consuming
01:01:06it.
01:01:06Correct.
01:01:07So again, nobody is going to create the content or the information as a whole for you to copy.
01:01:17It just ain't going to work.
01:01:18Yeah.
01:01:19Tailored for you.
01:01:20That's just not going to work.
01:01:21It's not going to be bespoke.
01:01:23No, exactly.
01:01:24What the hell's going on here?
01:01:26I don't know what's happening.
01:01:29What's going on here?
01:01:32I have no idea what's going on.
01:01:36You muted me at one point.
01:01:38I'm sorry.
01:01:39I pressed the button and it went all crazy.
01:01:41Sorry, we're back.
01:01:42Don't press the button.
01:01:44Don't press the button.
01:01:47Yeah.
01:01:47You were saying.
01:01:50Do I go?
01:01:50Do you go?
01:01:51Go for it.
01:01:53So we were saying that I was saying that nobody's going to create content for you,
01:01:58like tailored 100%.
01:02:00So you got to take what's good for you and leave.
01:02:04Just like with this podcast, like people are not going to be listening to this and go like,
01:02:09oh, I love the whole thing.
01:02:11But they might find that one nugget.
01:02:13So as long as you're the type of content and delivery that you have is easily digestible.
01:02:20You don't like make people ill while they're listening to you.
01:02:26They're going to stomach through it and just go like, oh, a minute 34.
01:02:30They said this and they were talking about this.
01:02:32And yeah, exactly.
01:02:34It was great.
01:02:35Exactly.
01:02:36Yeah.
01:02:36Well, we'll leave it there.
01:02:39Again, this is the last video of the year.
01:02:43I've made a video for a while now, and this was a good one.
01:02:46Um, so yeah, I'll see you next year.
01:02:52Yes, sir.
01:02:53We'll meet next year and maybe we'll do some more of this.
01:02:57Absolutely.
01:02:58Oh, I'd love to, because our minds kind of connect in a way.
01:03:01So I really like that.
01:03:02So yeah, definitely.
01:03:05Got it.
01:03:05Okay.
01:03:06So how do we end this?
01:03:08Have a great day.
01:03:09You just say, have a great day.
01:03:11She fucked it up, but it doesn't matter.
01:03:13I'll cut it before that.
01:03:16Cool, man.
01:03:17Okay.
01:03:18No worries.
01:03:18Well, um, yeah, no, thanks for that.
01:03:20I really appreciate that to doing it again.
01:03:23I'll have to cut a few bits out.
01:03:25Maybe.
01:03:26Okay, let's re-record.
01:03:28Do you want to re-record?
01:03:32I think this is a good start for the, like, if you want to do some editing, you just take
01:03:37this.
01:03:38Do you want to re-record and you put it at the start?
01:03:41At the beginning.
01:03:41That's how you lead into it.
01:03:43I think I might do that.
01:03:44I might do that.
01:03:46I can't wait.
01:03:47I'm gonna, I'm gonna like, uh, wait for you to, to publish this.
01:03:51I will.
01:03:51I'm going to try to do it for tomorrow around about three o'clock, something like that.
01:03:55Um, okay.
01:03:56Didn't want to do too much editing, but I'm going to have to edit the ending and the beginning,
01:04:01but I'm going to leave the, the door and stuff.
01:04:04So fuck it.
01:04:06And the book.
01:04:07Cool.
01:04:08Hey, have a great day.
01:04:09Have a good new year, by the way.
01:04:11Hello to family.
01:04:12Happy new year, sir.
01:04:13Love to the family and all that and, um, enjoy it.
01:04:17Cool.
01:04:17Thanks a lot.
01:04:18See you later, man.
01:04:19Ciao.
01:04:20Later.
01:04:20Bye.