‘Demonstrably false Anderson Cooper directly rebukes Trump’s comments about him
‘Demonstrably false Anderson Cooper directly rebukes Trump’s comments about him
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00:00We begin tonight with the former president, campaign politics, his legal troubles, and
00:04lies.
00:05He finished his day in Charlotte, North Carolina, where the Fraternal Order of Police endorsed
00:09him and he had this to say about a violent attack on Nancy Pelosi's husband.
00:15You know that?
00:16Nancy Pelosi has a big wall wrapped around her house.
00:19Of course, it didn't help too much with the problem she had, did it?
00:26That's the former president speaking to members of law enforcement, making light, the first
00:30time I should point out, of the violent attack against Paul Pelosi.
00:33A home invader beat Mr. Pelosi with a sledgehammer and fractured his skull.
00:37The man admitted that he was planning to hold Nancy Pelosi hostage and, quote, break her
00:41kneecaps and, quote, if she did not confess to whatever he wanted to hear.
00:46Now that's what the former president was talking about, two police, the near killing of a political
00:50rival's husband.
00:52Donald Trump came close to being shot in the head and had a near-death experience and got
00:56a second lease on life and this is what he's doing with it.
01:00Earlier today, he was in New York in federal court appealing his sexual abuse and defamation
01:03judgment and afterwards he talked about it.
01:06Take a look.
01:07His lawyers were behind him as he talked about E. Jean Carroll, whom a jury determined he
01:11sexually abused and defamed.
01:13He said, and I quote, I never met the woman other than this picture, which could have
01:17been AI generated.
01:18I don't, I don't know, show up out of nowhere, but it's fine.
01:22Nice picture.
01:23Now keeping him honest, the photo that he was talking about, this photo is real and
01:26the president knows it's real because he discussed it in detail under oath during a 2022 deposition,
01:32mistaking Carroll for his wife at the time, Marla Maples.
01:36Now in addition to Carroll, he also lashed out at several other accusers, including Jessica
01:40Leeds, who says Trump groped her on a flight in the 1970s.
01:44It couldn't have happened.
01:45It didn't happen and she would not have been the chosen one.
01:47She would not have been the chosen one, he said.
01:50Remarks like that have earned this assessment today from former Republican Congresswoman
01:54Liz Cheney.
01:57Dick Cheney will be voting for Kamala Harris.
02:00You know, my dad believes, and he's said publicly that, um, there's never been an individual
02:06in our country who is as grave a threat to our democracy as Donald Trump is.
02:11That was Liz Cheney today.
02:13Yesterday she announced she'll be voting for Vice President Harris.
02:16Today she said that her dad, former Vice President Dick Cheney, will be doing the same and will
02:20have more on that shortly.
02:22There was one other thing that Donald Trump said today that I want to point out because
02:25it kind of involves me and he seemed to imply something that is unfounded.
02:30He was talking, as he has before, about an interview that E. Jean Carroll did with me
02:34back on June 24th, 2019.
02:39Then there was an Anderson Cooper interview where she said essentially, no, he didn't
02:45rape me.
02:48She was selling her book.
02:49She wrote a book.
02:51The book would have been a total failure, probably was, anyway, although probably sold
02:55more recently.
02:56Again, it is a woman that wasn't doing well until she came out with this stuff about me.
03:01And that's happened to others too, by the way.
03:04She's not the only one.
03:06But they have the Anderson Cooper tape.
03:10And in the Anderson Cooper tape, it's an interview of her.
03:15And Cooper says something to the effect, did he rape you?
03:17Did he rape you?
03:18Did he slap you?
03:19Oh, did he rape you?
03:21And she gave a very good answer for me, but a bad answer for CNN, for Anderson.
03:28And he said, we're going to commercial break right now.
03:31Then she came back from commercial break and she was much more hostile.
03:35But this man wouldn't let us use the tape or the proper questions having to do with
03:40the tape.
03:41Wouldn't let us.
03:42The judge, Judge Kaplan, wouldn't let it be used.
03:46We wanted to get the outtakes.
03:47In other words, what did Anderson Cooper talk to her about during that intermission for
03:52a commercial that he called for immediately?
03:55Why do you see this?
03:56I mean, some of you have seen it.
03:57Some of you haven't.
03:58We're going to commercial break right now.
04:02And so what happened is we weren't able to use it.
04:07Okay, so this is not the first time that Trump has seemed to suggest some nefarious plot
04:12by me to manipulate E. Jean Carroll into saying something.
04:15He actually brought this up in a deposition for trial.
04:18Now I normally don't respond to when Trump says something about me.
04:22I mean, what is the point?
04:23He recently referred to me using a female first name, which I guess is like a third
04:26grade gay taunt.
04:27I think he called me Allison or Ashley Cooper.
04:29I don't really recall.
04:30It's not worth replying to.
04:32But this time it's kind of different because it's just kind of just demonstrably false.
04:36First, I just want to show you what it is he's rambling about.
04:39This was part of my interview with E. Jean Carroll that took place on my show on CNN in
04:44two blocks, two segments separated by a commercial break.
04:48Now, this is what you would have seen if that night you were watching at home or wherever
04:52and we went to commercial and then came back from commercial.
04:54We're not going to actually play the entire commercial break you would have been watching.
04:58Take a look.
05:01I was not thrown on the ground and ravished, which the word rape carries so many sexual
05:06connotations.
05:07This was not, this was not sexual.
05:11It just, it hurt.
05:12It just, it just, you know.
05:14I think most people think of rape as a, I mean, it is a violent assault.
05:19It is not.
05:20I think most people think of rape as being sexy.
05:23Let's take a short break.
05:24Think of the fantasies.
05:25We're going to take a quick break.
05:29If you can stick around, we'll talk more on the other side.
05:31You're fascinating to talk to.
05:41Cancer is the ugliest disease mankind has ever faced.
05:48We're now in my conversation with E. Jean Carroll and the president's latest denial
05:51of her sexual violence allegations against him.
05:53He said, quote, she's not my type.
05:56He's also said previously he did not know her, had never met her, even though they had
06:00in fact met.
06:01She's the one on the left along with her husband, a local news anchor at the time and the president's
06:04wife at the time, Ivana.
06:07The president has also said, said flat out that she is lying.
06:11Okay.
06:12So that commercial break, which we only just played a snippet of the commercial, ran four
06:17minutes long.
06:18So the former president seems to be suggesting that something we discussed or that I discussed
06:24with E. Jean Carroll during a four minute long commercial break that you would have
06:27been watching at home made Ms. Carroll change her tone toward him.
06:31I'm not sure her tone actually changed after the, in the second block of the interview,
06:34but that's besides the point.
06:36The problem with this conspiracy theory is that this interview was actually prerecorded
06:41and we had to prerecord a toss to a commercial break and then welcome viewers back after
06:47a commercial break so that the entire two parts of the interview would fit into my show
06:51that night.
06:52So when you do that, when you interview someone for however many minutes and then you toss
06:56to a break that'll later be inserted into the broadcast, you don't sit there for the
07:01entire four minutes of the commercial break with the guests just waiting to then come
07:05back to the show.
07:07Because it's prerecorded, you don't have to sit there during commercial break.
07:10Just take a few seconds.
07:11You make sure the control room is still recording.
07:14You welcome viewers back as if you've just come out of a commercial break and you continue
07:17with the interview.
07:18And that's exactly what I do with E. Jean Carroll.
07:20And I know this because we have the tape.
07:23So while Trump is apparently suggesting I sat through a commercial break on live TV
07:27with E. Jean Carroll telling her to be angry or whatever, we actually just paused in a
07:31prerecorded interview for a few seconds.
07:34And if you don't believe me, here's the raw, unedited video of what was actually being
07:40recorded and you will hear exactly what I said in the few seconds it took me to resume
07:44the interview.
07:45We're going to take a quick break.
07:49If you can stick around, we'll talk more on the other side.
07:52You're fascinating to talk to.
07:54All right.
07:56So we good?
07:57Coming back?
07:58Yep.
07:59Right back up.
08:00Stand by.
08:01Okay.
08:02So before the break, you said you don't use the word rape.
08:11So that was the entire break.
08:13So when Donald Trump was saying it was a four minute break that I'm talking to E. Jean Carroll,
08:18you just saw the break.
08:20And that weird look I have is how I could talk to my control room.
08:22And when I'm saying, okay, we good?
08:24We coming back?
08:25Okay.
08:26I'm talking to a producer in the control room who's talking to me in my earpiece right here,
08:30making sure that we're good on time.
08:32We're still recording and I can immediately resume the interview.
08:35That's what happened in this break in the interview that Trump was once again talking
08:39about today.