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PTI Ka Sath Dene Say Maulana Fazl-ur-Rehman ko Kiya Faidah??? Rauf Hassan's Huge Statement
PTI Ka Sath Dene Say Maulana Fazl-ur-Rehman ko Kiya Faidah??? Rauf Hassan's Huge Statement
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00:00Well, Mr. Rehman, you gave a very interesting statement this week.
00:03Although the government has been taken by force many times,
00:05you have been forced to do so many things.
00:07You said that Form 45 is 47.
00:09This is the setup, we have to run it.
00:12We have to take action from this.
00:14We have to trust the political class or the lot.
00:19Yes, he has said this and he has also said that
00:23I will not sacrifice my politics by joining the government.
00:29But I will not disrupt the government.
00:31This is also what he meant.
00:33Now, this interpretation should be of yours, mine or others,
00:37that where is he actually standing?
00:39He is standing alone. He is not with you.
00:41If a constitutional amendment is moved,
00:44will he support it or not?
00:47The opinion is divided on this.
00:48One thing is not divided, that he is not with you.
00:51He is running his solo movement.
00:52No, I will not agree to this.
00:53Why did he have to go solo?
00:55When we talk to the PJYF, they say that there is a lot of confusion.
00:58There is a lot of chaos in the PJYF.
01:00We do not know who to talk to.
01:01We do not know who is the guarantor.
01:02We do not know if the talk is a final commitment or not.
01:05This is what they have to say.
01:06That is why they have gone solo.
01:07Look, Mr. Malhan had called us for lunch.
01:09This was about 6-7 days ago.
01:11I had also gone.
01:12I am also a part of that committee.
01:13I went and had lunch with them.
01:14Two sub-committees were formed in the same meeting.
01:17So, a practical step was taken.
01:18One in the Senate and one in the National Assembly.
01:21And the mandate of these sub-committees was
01:23to develop a joint strategy on an issue-to-issue basis.
01:28So, two sub-committees are working right now.
01:30So, I cannot say that they did not cooperate with us.
01:32Why did Mr. Malhan hold a press conference?
01:33That we will run the movement alone.
01:35That was before that.
01:36We had a meeting later.
01:38His press conference was held before this meeting.
01:41After that, he invited us for lunch.
01:43The committee was formed again.
01:44But, Mr. Rao, the committee has been going on for months.
01:47You are not able to make a decision.
01:49You hold a press conference and meet again.
01:51But, you are not able to make a decision.
01:52They are not able to sit with you openly.
01:55It is not possible to invite them for lunch openly.
01:57It is not possible to make a committee openly.
01:59Even the Prime Minister has invited them for lunch.
02:01Even the President has invited them.
02:02No, they have not gone for lunch yet.
02:03All these people have come to their doorstep.
02:06Look, their vote counts.
02:08There is no doubt about it.
02:10If the government wants to do something,
02:12it needs Mr. Falana Fazl-e-Zaman and his votes.
02:15You also need them not to go to that camp.
02:17We also need them.
02:18So, what can you offer them?
02:19The government has a lot to offer.
02:22We cannot offer anything.
02:23We will do it.
02:24Senate seats, two Senate seats,
02:25some other seat adjustment,
02:26some other political relationship.
02:28This is what happens.
02:29This is the political give-and-take.
02:31You have to get the money.
02:33Look, in the context of politics,
02:34whatever will happen,
02:35whatever will be the give-and-take
02:36or whatever can be the accommodation,
02:37we are ready to do it.
02:38We had already told them.
02:39Now, we have never done politics of giving money.
02:41We have never done it.
02:42I have said it as a joke.
02:43We will never do it.
02:44They have never demanded it.
02:45I want to disregard that statement.
02:46But, my point is,
02:47what does Mr. Mulana want?
02:48What does he want politically?
02:49He wants to be politically relevant.
02:51What can he get from you in a give-and-take?
02:53What is his desire?
02:55In a give-and-take with us,
02:57he can have a political future.
02:59Because, in KP,
03:00our position has never been of any other party.
03:02But, it is against Mr. Mulana.
03:04If you sit with him,
03:06you will not be so...
03:08There can be a political collaboration
03:09for the next election.
03:10There can be a seat adjustment.
03:12If he sits, it can be done.
03:14So, he can get a benefit.
03:15Sir, the same thing will happen
03:16which happened in Punjab
03:17with the collaboration
03:18of People's Party PMLN
03:19if you and Mr. Mulana
03:21collaborate in the next election.
03:22Just...
03:23I am giving you a hypothetical answer.
03:25Because, your answer
03:26is also a hypothetical question.
03:28This question is very basic, sir.
03:29The question is,
03:30Mr. Mulana,
03:31what do you want
03:32in this negotiation
03:33of give-and-take?
03:35I don't want
03:36to discuss it
03:37on a public domain.
03:38Fair enough.
03:39So, whatever can be done.
03:41But, with a political collaboration,
03:43I am certain
03:44that he will benefit
03:45in times to come.
03:46In times to come.
03:47So, the government
03:48after bringing
03:49this constitutional amendment
03:50which I am thinking about
03:51is probably next week.
03:52Do you think
03:53that judges'
03:54duration,
03:55age,
03:56posting,
03:57transfer,
03:58this is the
03:59bulk of it,
04:00will be successful?
04:01They don't have
04:02the numbers.
04:03No.
04:04How many numbers
04:05do they have?
04:0614.
04:0713 or 14 are less.
04:08Okay.
04:09Mr. Mulana will vote
04:10in that if he tries.
04:11If Mr. Mulana has 4,
04:12if he wins,
04:13still,
04:149 or 10
04:15are less.
04:16Okay.
04:17Now,
04:18we have
04:19kept an eye
04:20on our independence.
04:21The independence
04:22status,
04:2363A
04:24does not apply to them.
04:25They have
04:26kept an eye on it.
04:27And,
04:28I have heard
04:29that some
04:30coercive tactics,
04:31some
04:32intermediary
04:33tactics are
04:34being used.
04:35Have you
04:36identified
04:37those people?
04:38Our political
04:39leadership
04:40in the parliament
04:41has information
04:42and we are
04:43active.
04:44Are you sure
04:45about your
04:46independence?
04:47I am telling you,
04:48the people who
04:49have been elected
04:50on PTI tickets,
04:51if they
04:52have a
04:53deal with
04:54PTI,
04:55they cannot
04:56go back
04:57to their
04:58constituency.
04:59They know
05:00this.
05:01Their political
05:02career will
05:03end.
05:04In the
05:05recent past,
05:06we have
05:07seen the
05:08situation
05:09of those
05:1028 people.
05:11That is
05:12long-term.
05:13Are you
05:14confident that
05:15your votes
05:16and your
05:17political
05:18career will
05:19continue
05:20with PTI?
05:21How many
05:22people are
05:23there?
05:24Four or
05:25five?
05:26They need
05:27nine or
05:28ten people
05:29apart from
05:30Maulana
05:31sir.
05:32It is
05:33necessary
05:34that they
05:35will try.
05:36Do you
05:37remember the
05:38market in
05:39Sindh House?
05:40Has anyone
05:41conveyed to
05:42you that
05:43they are
05:44in contact
05:45with
05:46PTI?
05:47No.
05:48Do you
05:49remember
05:50that?
05:51No.
05:52No.
05:53No.
05:54No.
05:55They
05:56said they
05:57are
05:58not
05:59in touch
06:00with
06:01PTI.
06:02They
06:03have
06:04not
06:05received
06:06any
06:07messages
06:08about
06:09that.
06:10They
06:11do not
06:12even
06:13know