ブラマヨ弾話室～ニッポン、どうかしてるぜ！～第262回 2024年9月8日
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00:00This program is brought to you by Black Mayonnaise and the young entertainers of the Worries Show.
00:16We chat about Japan's worries with Zak Baran.
00:21The members of the Worry Show are...
00:29Akira Nagatsuma, a member of the Democratic Party of Japan.
00:35Hiroshi Hatayama, a journalist.
00:39Toshio Miyata, a doctor.
00:43Atsushi Fujimoto, a graduate of Tokyo University.
00:49And David Hosein, from Iran.
00:57Is there anything you're worried about?
00:59Yes, there is.
01:00It seems that the water bill is going up slowly all over the country.
01:04I'm worried about how much it will go up in the future.
01:08The theme is, I'm worried about the rise in the water bill.
01:12Let's start the chat.
01:16In 2046, about 20 years later, the rise in the water bill will be 48% nationwide.
01:26It's going to be 1.5 times.
01:29If it's 10,000 yen now, it's going to be 15,000 yen.
01:32It's going to be like that.
01:35I'm also worried about the difference in the area of the bill.
01:39If you use 20 cubic meters of water, the cheapest one in Hyogo is 968 yen.
01:47But the most expensive one in Hokkaido is 6,978 yen.
01:53Both cities are extreme.
01:56For example, Ako has a river flowing in the middle of the city.
02:00And there's a place where they make water called a water purification plant.
02:04And Ako is a very compact city.
02:08So you can make it right away and distribute it right away.
02:11But the opposite is true in Hokkaido.
02:15If you have a house in a very large area, you have to connect it to a water purification plant.
02:21So it costs a lot of money to repair and distribute water.
02:26And the original population is decreasing, so if you divide it, it's going to be expensive.
02:31I see.
02:32It's like Shinjuku.
02:34Even if it's far away, it's cheap because everyone distributes it.
02:38Tokyo is cheaper than the national average.
02:42Because there's a lot of population density.
02:45And if the height is different, you have to raise it to the top with a pump.
02:51It costs electricity.
02:52It's an independent property, so I think there's going to be about 20 times the difference in the future.
02:57Between expensive and cheap.
02:59Isn't Yubari City collapsing?
03:01I know I'm not good at it, but I think it's getting better.
03:06Originally, Yubari City was a coal-fired city.
03:09The coal mine closed down, and more and more people moved out.
03:16And the people who stayed had to do something about it.
03:19So I made a theme park and did a lot of things, but it didn't work.
03:22And as I said, it's a city that has collapsed.
03:26In that sense, it's not just bad for the city.
03:30The number of people is decreasing.
03:32The number of people who sleep in Yubari City is increasing, isn't it?
03:35It's increasing.
03:36The burden is increasing.
03:37This is a serious problem in the countryside.
03:41For example, there are disasters.
03:44Even if electricity, gas, and water supply are restored in the city,
03:49even if there is a disaster, the water supply will not come.
03:53People often ask me if there is no electricity.
03:56In that sense, it takes time to repair the infrastructure.
04:05If you live in the countryside, at least live near the water purification plant.
04:12I see.
04:13If you want to live in the countryside...
04:15I know the water bill, so I know where it's cheap and where it's expensive.
04:20I think it's going to cost a lot.
04:24But I didn't want to solve it.
04:27As the population decreases, there are fewer people in the water purification plant.
04:33And the number of people who pay the bill decreases.
04:36The management is suffering and we have to make money.
04:40The local government is doing it.
04:44In the future, the government will provide subsidies.
04:49It's a very difficult situation.
04:52If we don't increase subsidies in this way,
04:57I think it will be a very difficult situation.
05:01But subsidies are unlimited.
05:04I'm afraid of privatization.
05:07Privatization to handle water?
05:10If it's privatization, it's a big deal.
05:15Electricity and gas have always been one company.
05:19It's called liberalization.
05:22You can sign a contract with various electric and gas companies.
05:27But if the price of crude oil goes up,
05:30the company will quit because it can't afford a new company.
05:35So the company's business is not getting any cheaper.
05:40Are foreign companies after Japanese water?
05:44Yes, they are.
05:45That's bad.
05:46There are three major water companies in the world.
05:50They want to privatize Japanese water.
05:56But Japan is not able to do that.
06:00For example, Paris is famous.
06:02Paris also wants to privatize its water.
06:06But the water quality is getting worse.
06:10So they quit privatization.
06:12The world is going to be privatized,
06:15but there will be monopolies.
06:17They will raise the price.
06:20And they will ask for an air supply.
06:23So many strange things are happening.
06:26The world is not going to be privatized.
06:29If they focus on profit, it's easy to go bankrupt.
06:34I can't trust foreign companies.
06:37Maybe you should wash your hair with a different water.
06:41What did you say?
06:43You're provoking me.
06:45Can you recognize three companies in the torture area?
06:52Are you pushing for privatization?
06:55No.
06:56At first, the government was excited.
07:01All the countries started to privatize.
07:05But they failed.
07:07They are not excited now.
07:09If the price of water goes up,
07:12people will come to Tokyo.
07:14Yes.
07:15But if the price of water goes up,
07:18it will be a deterrent.
07:20Why?
07:21I take a bath with my wife almost every day.
07:25But I can't do that because I'm too used to being naked.
07:30If the price goes up, I can't take a bath.
07:33I might get excited again.
07:35I see.
07:36I walk around naked like a monkey every day.
07:41I can understand why the price of water goes up
07:46when I take a bath with my wife.
07:50But it's not good.
07:52Yes.
07:53We have to raise the price of water.
07:56It's related to the technology of science.
08:01If the technology of seawater goes up,
08:04the amount of water we use will decrease.
08:07That will reduce the income from the water.
08:12If the price of water goes up,
08:15the amount of water we use will increase.
08:18That will reduce the circulation of the water.
08:22It will be difficult to change the water.
08:25We have to be aware of eco-friendly.
08:27We can't use too much water.
08:29I think it's good.
08:31I think it's good for the water company.
08:34There are many showerheads.
08:36There are many showerheads with 10% water.
08:40I think we can use more showerheads.
08:45If we use too much water, we won't know the reason.
08:48Let's use more water.
08:49If we use too much water, we won't know the reason.
08:55The theme is the rising of the water bill.
08:59Let's resume the conversation.
09:02Mr. Nakazawa, you don't have a choice.
09:07The average water bill in Japan is 3,300 yen per month.
09:16It will be 1.5 times in the future.
09:19It will be 20 times higher and cheaper.
09:23This is a serious problem.
09:26We have to support the government.
09:30We have to do something about it.
09:34The government supports the people in need.
09:41The government supports the people in need.
09:44We have to do something about it.
09:48We can't avoid drinking water.
09:50The water bill in Japan is changing.
09:55It's changing.
09:57The climate is changing.
09:59Japan is becoming a rich country.
10:03Japan is becoming a rich country.
10:06We have to think about it.
10:11We have to collect tax money.
10:16We have to collect tax money.
10:19We have to collect tax money.
10:21We should avoid waste.
10:25We should avoid waste.
10:28In Japan, there is a debt phenomenon.
10:32If the annual income is over 100 million yen,
10:35the income tax rate will be low.
10:38If you can afford it,
10:40you should collect tax money including income tax.
10:45You should find a way to collect tax money.
10:50Is there a group that doesn't need tax money?
10:55Yes.
10:56Yes?
10:57The tax rate is going down.
11:00The tax rate is going down.
11:03The government has to collect tax money.
11:08How much tax money do you need?
11:14If you collect tax money,
11:17you will need tens of billions of yen.
11:24If the government changes,
11:27you can't hide it.
11:29If the government changes,
11:32you can't hide it.
11:37In the past 10 years,
11:39Japan is the only country that hasn't changed.
11:42The UK has changed.
11:45We have to do something to improve the tax rate.
11:52I want to change, but I don't know what to do.
11:58If you don't try, you won't know what to do.
12:02I tried once and it was a mess.
12:06It wasn't a mess.
12:12What do you mean it wasn't a mess?
12:15I'm the one who made it a mess.
12:18Of course I did good things,
12:21but I wasn't used to it.
12:24I made promises,
12:27but now,
12:30there are people in the government who are still alive.
12:35We all have the feeling that we can't go on like this.
12:42I think we can do it this time.
12:45In order to improve the tax rate,
12:49if the government changes every 4 or 5 years,
12:54will you not be able to do your best?
12:58I think it's better for the people in power to decide.
13:04Japan is not a two-party system.
13:07If the opposition does its best,
13:11and the opposition is careless,
13:14it will change.
13:17If that happens,
13:20people will be very nervous.
13:24Japan has a strong government.
13:27As you said in the interview,
13:31there are a lot of things that the government can't decide.
13:36There are a lot of things that the government can decide.
13:41Even if the government changes,
13:44people will say yes, but they will turn their backs.
13:48Some people say that the government is the problem.
13:53In other countries,
13:56the government is the political puppet.
14:01That's not the case in Japan.
14:03What is a political puppet?
14:05It's a puppet that the politicians decide.
14:08If the president changes,
14:11the officials will change as well.
14:15I don't think that will happen in Japan.
14:20Even if the government changes,
14:23it won't change much.
14:25Is that okay?
14:26In the past,
14:28there was a system where people could be included in the government.
14:34People could be included in the government
14:38and change a lot.
14:41I was surprised when I joined the Ministry of Education.
14:44There is a director.
14:46He is from the Tokyo University Law Department.
14:48He has a lot of classmates.
14:50He is a junior from the Faculty of Arts.
14:53All of the classmates in the Tokyo University Law Department
14:56are in the Department of State Power.
15:00So they are all the same type of people.
15:04There is a system that
15:07new people are excluded from the government.
15:11If people don't join the government,
15:13it will be like a gossip.
15:16For example, people from Waseda University?
15:18Recently, people from other universities have joined the government.
15:21When I was a minister in Nagatsuma,
15:23I worked at the Ministry of Education.
15:25At that time, people from Kyoto University
15:27were excluded from the Tokyo University Law Department.
15:30I was surprised.
15:32He is a very good student.
15:35He is a good student.
15:37He is a good student.
15:39He is a good student.
15:41He is a good student.
15:43That's right.
15:45That's right.
15:48He has done many things in the past.
15:50I was surprised.
15:52There was an excellent person from Kyoto University
15:55in the office,
15:57so I appointed him.
15:59People around me asked me
16:01if I knew he was from the Tokyo University Law Department.
16:04I said I knew him.
16:06It's not an example,
16:08but it's not a common thing.
16:11It's not good.
16:14I think so.
16:16It's a little old.
16:18But he's back.
16:20Fujimoto-san didn't complain at all.
16:22Fujimoto-san didn't complain at all.
16:24He should have continued at Kyoto University.
16:26He should have continued at Kyoto University.
16:28Why did you say that?
16:30Why did you say that?
16:32Why did you say that?
16:34Why did you say that?
16:36Why did you say that?
16:38Do you have any concerns?
16:40Yes.
16:42It seems that the number of drinking driving has increased recently.
16:44It seems that the number of drinking driving has increased recently.
16:46It seems that the number of drinking driving has increased recently.
16:48Aren't you worried?
16:50The next issue is
16:52the increase in drinking driving.
16:54Let's start the chat.
16:56I'll show you the police data.
16:58There were 2,346 accidents
17:00caused by drinking driving
17:02in 2023.
17:04There were 2,346 accidents caused by drinking driving
17:06in 2023.
17:08There were 179 traffic accidents
17:10in the previous year,
17:12The number of cases has increased to 179.
17:16I don't understand why it's a must.
17:17I think we should only look at the tragic cases.
17:22Why do we have to do this?
17:23The number of cases has increased because of the coronavirus.
17:28The number of people going out has increased.
17:31However, at the peak, the number of cases was over 20,000.
17:37The number of cases has decreased, but the number of cases has increased recently.
17:42I want you to be aware of this.
17:46However, various devices have been released.
17:49It is a system that does not start the engine unless you blow your own breath.
17:54It's not a self-service car, but a company for business use.
18:01That's why the company I'm working for is doing well.
18:07I don't think everyone is listening to the license renewal class seriously.
18:13If you look at that part seriously, it's a tragedy.
18:17I renewed my license this year, but I was sitting in the middle of the front seat.
18:25If you look at that, you'll think it's really bad.
18:30How do you think you can reduce drunk driving?
18:32There are goggles that look like they're drunk, right?
18:36The staff wears them and drives like this when they're drunk.
18:43It's dangerous.
18:45On the contrary, I feel like I'm drunk when I drink tea with that goggle.
18:51I'm satisfied.
18:53If you take it off when you're drunk, you'll get drunk.
18:56That's impossible.
18:58You're drinking alcohol, aren't you?
19:01I've been drinking a lot of barley water lately.
19:05I drink about five cups a day.
19:08The situation is getting to the point where the people around you stop you.
19:14The driver who came in the car told me not to drink.
19:16The driver who came in the car told me not to drink.
19:19I don't know why the number of people around me is increasing, even though there are few people around me.
19:23Do you drink alone?
19:25I think it's easy to drink in the countryside.
19:29There are no taxis in the countryside.
19:32In that area, it's natural to drink and buy a car.
19:40I drink at night and drive the next day.
19:44I drank at night and went to bed.
19:46When I woke up in the middle of the night, I thought I was awake.
19:49When I tried to drive, I was caught by an alcohol checker.
19:54Do people who drive drink?
19:57Do people who drive drink because they're drunk?
20:02I usually miss the traffic light.
20:06When you drink alcohol, your feelings get bigger with a certain amount.
20:11When the yellow light turns red, you feel like you can do it.
20:15I don't usually do it, but I feel like I can do it.
20:18I feel like I'm overconfident.
20:21It's a reverse idea.
20:23I made a lane for people who drink.
20:29But if you speed up too much, it's your fault.
20:32It's your fault if you're overconfident.
20:34I'm overconfident.
20:36I'm drunk.
20:38I think there's a possibility that things will change when autonomous driving comes out.
20:47I think it's time for autonomous driving to become more and more commonplace.
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