Incredibly alarming Ex-Pence adviser is concerned by Trump s debate answer
Incredibly alarming Ex-Pence adviser is concerned by Trump s debate answer
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00:00Taylor Swift's surprise endorsement of Vice President Kamala Harris following last night's debate may be
00:04Dominating the headlines this morning, but the vice president has also enjoyed a boost in support from an unlikely place in recent weeks
00:11Republicans ranging from former Trump staffers to former vice president Dick Cheney have all thrown their support behind
00:17Harris as they look to distance themselves from Trump joining me now former adviser to Vice President Mike Pence Olivia Troy
00:23She's part of Republicans for Harris attended the debate last night and was a guest of the Harris campaign
00:29If I'm correct there, what did you think? How do you think she handled herself?
00:33I mean one of the things we were talking about earlier is
00:35The mics were muted
00:36But the facial expressions were not and Kamala Harris was putting her facial expressions to use when Trump was saying all sorts of things
00:42Yeah
00:43I felt like you know when she was reacting I felt like she was reacting like the rest of us in the audience were
00:48Reacting because we were all kind of having the same reaction of some of the things that he was saying and quite frankly
00:54I had a lot of disbelief on some of the things he said on the world stage
00:57And I could just I was picturing world leaders around the the globe just watching this develop and sort of being in shock over it
01:03yeah, and I
01:05Want to play this?
01:07You know you express concern about Trump's affinity for dictators. We saw Kamala Harris say that last night
01:11He mentioned Victor Orban the Hungarian autocrat multiple times last night, and then he said this about Ukraine. Let's watch this
01:20Do you want Ukraine to win this war? I want the war to stop
01:25I want to save lives that are being uselessly people being killed by the millions
01:31It's the millions. It's so much worse than the numbers that you're getting which are fake numbers just to clarify in the question
01:37Do you believe it's in the u.s.. Best interest for Ukraine to win this war yes, sir
01:42I think it's the u.s.. Best interest to get this war finished and just get it done
01:47Olivia you were a national security advisor to Vice President Pence how concerned are you that Trump could not give a straight answer there?
01:54No, that's incredibly alarming and what that tells me is he did not want to go against Putin
02:00That's the message to the American people in the world right there, and when I look at him
02:04I mean he verified for us that those are his
02:08Alliances and his loyalties are to dictators around the world right to Putin and Victor Orban he talked about Victor Orban
02:14I think in his response like the entire time in a minute
02:17I mean, I think that shows the world that that's who he's mentioning
02:20He didn't mention any other worldly at any other world leader
02:22While on the stage right he didn't talk about he didn't laud anyone else
02:25He was looking at these authoritarian like people, and I think he sees himself in this vein
02:30It's disturbing and I want to read some of what the Wall Street Journal editorial board
02:35Said following the debate saying she won the debate because she came in with a strategy to taunt and gobe mr.
02:40Trump into diving down rabbit holes of personal grievance and vanity that left her policies and history largely untouched
02:45She always takes the bait miss Harris set the trap
02:48So he spent much of the debate talking about the past or about Joe Biden or about immigrants eating pets
02:52But not how he'd improve the lives of Americans in the next four years when you've lost the Wall Street Journal as a Republican
03:00What does that say yeah? I mean, I think it speaks volumes
03:03I think you know she was incredibly effective at talking about her vision her plans for the country
03:09To the audience that needed to hear it which is the people that were tuned in but she was also incredibly effective of just
03:16Giving him enough rope right I mean like she like go ahead
03:19Just let him talk and I just kept saying just keep letting him talk and he'll just portray himself to be what he is
03:24I just say like think about having to work in the White House with him because that's what it was like every single day
03:30think about watching the person that's supposed to be running and leading our country and
03:34Behaving in that way because what you saw last night on that stage is exactly who Donald Trump is do you think he'll do another?
03:40debate I
03:42Think you know I he was clearly angry last night
03:44I mean when he showed up in the spin room you could see that he was just frustrated about the situation
03:50And I you could see the anger sort of developing on stage in the moment. I think that's TV day to be honest
03:55Yeah
03:56But we'll see what the poll numbers say because that might drive a lot of this if he sees the poll numbers dip
04:00He may want to do another debate
04:02I love you stay with me my panel is back from war on the showdown last night and Brian Lanza and Alencia
04:08Johnson are back with me and Brian. Let me go back to you. Do you want Donald Trump to do another debate?
04:13Yeah, I mean, I think they already have one they at least would during the Biden Harris campaign
04:18They already have the third one scheduled later this month
04:20And so if she doesn't want to compete in that debate, I'm certainly not surprised she didn't want to compete in the Fox debate
04:25Alencia, what do you think well? I mean, I think there's
04:29History with Fox News not being able to actually fact-check Donald Trump so I could understand that but vice president Harris and the campaign
04:35Well, the campaign said last night that they are ready for the second debate whenever Donald Trump will agree to it. It's clear
04:41Thank you, Olivia for your point that he was really upset
04:44Which is why he ran to the spin room to try to create and control a narrative
04:48but I actually don't think it helped I think it harmed him even more and vice president Harris was quite disruptive on that stage and
04:55Disrupting the way in which he always tries to dominate women, right? And with you sitting here Olivia
05:02I'm just thinking about the range in which this coalition that wants to not only vote for vice president Harris move past Donald Trump
05:09It ranges from Republicans who are tired of him who have the courage to stand up
05:14You as well as Dick Cheney and Liz Cheney
05:16All the way over to the left to there are a lot of uncommitted voters who said they still want to vote for vice president
05:22Harris they want to see more obviously on the issue in Gaza and then you have Taylor Swift endorsing her
05:26I don't know
05:27What's more disruptive in our politics than a coalition and a candidate that can bring all of them together and then it's vice president Harris
05:33Yeah, I mean Olivia being in the room. What was that moment like when?
05:37Trump and Harris went after each other on the issue of abortion. I
05:41Think you know, I think she was incredibly compelling and I think she was speaking on a very personal level to the American people
05:48I thought she was very effective on that. I could feel the emotion and look
05:53I am a conservative leaning voter on the issue
05:55But I respect her for the fact that she understands how to speak to all of us and unite us on this issue
06:02And I'm talking to conservative women across the country. I'm going to Arizona later this week. I'll be there
06:08I was with Republican women last week on the issue of reproductive rights and look there is a growing coalition here of people
06:14Who really are feeling like she has welcomed us into this?
06:18Into this party and she's saying like I'm gonna be a president for all of you
06:21Yeah, and she hit on that issue very early on in the debate
06:25Which means a lot of people were paying attention and Brian on that point. I did want to ask you about that because
06:30You know Trump called his answer on abortion quote perfect
06:33But when the moderators pressed him on whether he would veto a national abortion, then he refused to answer
06:38I think he said it in the past that he wouldn't sign a national abortion ban
06:43And I think JD Vance has also stated that I think what he said last night is is like why are we going to say?
06:48That's not he didn't say he would veto it if it got passed and got to his desk
06:51He didn't say whether you would veto. I was answering the question Jim. Thank you for giving me the opportunity
06:55I think what he was saying if you're not gonna answer the question
06:57I'm gonna jump in I'm about to answer the question when you keep on jumping when I say I'm about to answer the question
07:02That's the time you let me answer the question. Yeah
07:05As I was saying and trying to answer your question your deeply thoughted question
07:09I think what he was what he was what he was trying to say last night
07:12And I think what he has said is like listen, he goes the country does not support late-term abortion
07:17I think 91% of the country feels late-term abortion is a horrific
07:19No, he said that he said that they're in some states. They're executing the babies after they're born, which is false
07:25So well, yeah, well, let me finish my answer Jim
07:28I understand you don't want to hear it because it's inconvenient, but I'm still gonna Brian
07:31If you're not gonna tell the truth, I've got to jump in. I'm sorry Jim. Do you want it?
07:35Do you want the truth? Do you want me to answer your question? We want the truth?
07:37Yeah, yes, and I'm trying to give you go ahead with an explanation
07:41But you constantly keep interrupting which leads me to believe you don't want to hear the answer because it's inconvenient to you
07:45So for the fourth time, I'm going to try to answer this question
07:48You know what he said about abortion what his position has always been he's always been proud of repealing abortion
07:54he said it early on that he gave the list of people from the Federalist Society who are gonna return it to the states and
07:59That's what has happened. And he's very comfortable with the state's making the decision
08:02He's very comfortable with some states being as liberal as California and taking the position
08:07they want to and he's very comfortable with states as as
08:09You know as Arizona sort of being more conservative as Texas where he lies on the issue and what he believes on the issue
08:16It should be pushed back to the states for them to decide what he says at the national levels
08:20Is that he doesn't believe a national a national abortion ban is going to hit his desk. I believe that too
08:26I think you believe that having covered the hill yourself Jim
08:29You know that there's never going to be in the legislation that goes to his desk on abortion
08:33Because there's never been any legislation to go to the desk of any president since the overturn of Roe v. Wade
08:38So as in completing your answer President Trump's actually stated his position now for you know
08:43If now for the fifth time where he stands he has stated in the past
08:46He does not support a national abortion ban JD
08:48But he didn't say he didn't say whether he would veto that
08:50I mean, I'm just I let you talk there for a little technical word
08:53I guess in my in my view when you say you're in the st
08:56C-span Brian and when I ask you a question whether he's you know, why he didn't say whether he would veto it
09:01You can't just go on and on forever. I mean
09:04Jim I just watched refused when I say he's not gonna sign the national abortion ban. What does that mean to you?
09:09You're still not answering the question. Well, I want to jump in here as someone who actually in addition to presidential politics
09:15I worked for Planned Parenthood for six years and I know that Republicans have been planning for this moment for decades
09:20And of course, they're not gonna introduce a national abortion ban while President Biden is in the white in the White House
09:25But as soon as Donald Trump if he had the chance to be in the White House
09:29they would propose it and Donald Trump has only tried to moderate his position on abortion because it has been a losing issue since the
09:362022 midterms and blue states as well as red states and so women voters
09:41Democrat independent and Republican voters know very clearly where Donald Trump stands. He threw his vice president candidate under the bus
09:49He will sign a national abortion ban and that's why women are galvanizing across the country
09:52Yeah, I'm gonna agree and look the devil's in the details
09:55All you have to look at look at the plans in project 2025
09:58It's very clear how controlling they want to be when it comes to reproduction and to me
10:03It's appalling when you read the text on that and it says, you know
10:07It refers to monitoring miscarriages and abortions across the country. That is extra level government overreach
10:14I mean that is not traditional Republican platform values of limited government. Let's be clear about that