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00:00idea of where you want to be in five years time? Yes, part of me wants to say retired,
00:07I know that's not true. Yes for me in five years time I would love for the business that I'm about,
00:12one of the business I'm about to launch to be obsolete. I would love for our company to actually
00:16no longer need to exist anymore and for me as an individual like totally selfishly I would love to
00:24be a full-time board advisor and board member and just making, because for me I think as an
00:31entrepreneur I loved forging things into reality. I'm going to use that phrase way too many times
00:37and I loved the building of elements but actually now the great joy I have is seeing and helping
00:41other people do that. So I think for me it would be to just actually get to sit and
00:48have the touch points that I have with companies make a difference and the number one thing I'd
00:54love to be doing in five years is I would love to be sitting on stage in Davos telling people
00:59about how sustainability is finally on the sinking board agenda for companies. I won't go down that
01:05rabbit hole but that is that is you've heard me rant about that so much a lot but yeah so yes I
01:10do and I think that's from asking myself and I wish I could take credit for asking that those
01:15questions I was asking earlier. I learned those the hard way and I learned those from other people.
01:20It's because I've stopped to ask myself what do I want out of what I'm doing
01:24and part of that will also be I'll be totally honest one of the companies that I'm building
01:28will be a lifestyle business. I will never exit it. I will never take capital for it in part because
01:32it will be cash for positive and it will I will hire an MD as soon as we have the capital available
01:36for it. I will bring in a managing director who will run that company for me. I will continue to
01:41set the vision. I will bring in some other board members to set the vision and I will not have to
01:46be that day to day and the other business will will probably be angel invested and probably a
01:54longer term horizon and exit it and then we're talking about building angel syndicate as well
01:59and that one hopefully I'll just spend more of my time on. So I mean for me it's really clear on
02:04what I want my businesses to do.