مدي 1 تي في : مع هندي زهرة - 19/09/2024
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00:00Hello and welcome to a new episode of your daily and artistic show, after a happy month.
00:19I'm back with you every day to present to you some news, work and innovations in the artistic field.
00:25So, get ready and let's start.
00:30Hello again and welcome to a big surprise with a big artist that we will discover in this episode.
01:00Hello again and welcome to a big surprise with a big artist that we will discover in this episode.
01:10Hello again and welcome to a big surprise with a big artist that we will discover in this episode.
01:20Easy, how you can say, how you can say goodbye
01:27My heart started and never want to stop again
01:34I know that the best thing is you and I
01:49I know that the best thing is you and I
01:58This is the beginning of a new start and we know it now
02:10Our guest today is the Indian artist Zahra. Hello and welcome.
02:15Zahra, how are you?
02:16I'm fine.
02:17Are you well?
02:18Yes.
02:19It's a pleasure to have you with us.
02:20Thank you very much.
02:21Thank you again.
02:22Zahra, you appeared in the show Patchwork on Median TV.
02:25Zahra, where are you from?
02:30I'm from Agadir.
02:34I grew up in several cities in Morocco because my father was a soldier.
02:43So, I lived in several places in Morocco.
02:47So, a little bit in Agadir and a little bit in Kharibga.
02:51Kaza and Kharibga.
02:52Okay.
02:53What are the areas, like Sousse, Agadir, Kharibga, that inspire you?
02:59I don't go back to Kharibga, but I know that my love for music and poetry comes from Kharibga.
03:12And then, Agadir also gave me an opening to other music.
03:17Because there was a real movement.
03:19Agadir was about hippies, rock, etc.
03:23So, the Americans, the Jews.
03:26So, friends, record collectors, people who loved music and musicians.
03:34So, I grew up there.
03:37So, you can say that you are an artist.
03:39Yes, yes, yes.
03:41And Ali's uncles, yes.
03:44Did your parents have anything to do with music?
03:47No, no.
03:48No?
03:49No.
03:50For me, music is another universe.
03:53Your mother, yes.
03:54My mother, yes, yes.
03:55The theater, too.
03:56When I was in the theater, she was a very, very good singer.
04:02So, when you were young, from childhood, did you start writing, singing?
04:07Yes.
04:08How old were you?
04:10Really, I started at the age of 8.
04:13I started doing improvisations.
04:15I had a good mind.
04:18I started doing musical improvisations.
04:21I sang my melodies by myself.
04:24And at the age of 13, in France,
04:28they bought me a recording machine and I recorded myself.
04:35And when I heard it, I said, this is my service.
04:39This is my service.
04:40Ok.
04:41At that time, Zahra, you didn't go to school a lot.
04:45You didn't like school a lot.
04:47For you, many people say that it's a waste of time.
04:51Maybe they don't understand you.
04:53But you still study a lot of important things.
04:56You know that artists say that they have to read, they have to continue reading.
05:02Today, with a lot of hindsight, what do you say about this subject?
05:08I think that, if I may speak in French, because it will be easier for me,
05:14is that school is very difficult for people who use their right brain.
05:20That is to say, those who are not mathematicians.
05:23The left brain understands very concrete and factual things.
05:28It is a mathematical brain.
05:30But the imagination brain is difficult to live in school.
05:35It has to bend to rules.
05:37And above all, you learn something that you don't know how you're going to use it.
05:42An example from school is the Pythagorean theorem.
05:47The teacher couldn't get it into her head until she knew what she was going to do with it.
05:53And she respected me for that.
05:56You have to know what you're doing and what you're using to understand it well.
06:00Of course, education is important.
06:02But the greatest education, and I don't want to lie,
06:05the greatest education I had was by myself.
06:08I turned it into something that I could read and understand.
06:13There is such a strength in people who have their own school of life.
06:18So all things are important.
06:22It depends on who you adapt them to.
06:26Very important.
06:27You are sincere in your answers.
06:29You are spontaneous.
06:31There is no problem.
06:33How many people call you the Diva of modern times?
06:39This Diva or this Statue?
06:41This one.
06:42This one?
06:43This one.
06:44This one.
06:45I consider myself more of a craftsman, artist.
06:52Really, the definition is artist.
06:56If Diva is for the voice, maybe.
07:01But not for…
07:03Because the Diva is also a character.
07:05Opera singers are the first to be called Divas.
07:11Because they are women who play with an entire orchestra,
07:17with very important voices.
07:20While we, artists, want to hang out with people,
07:24we want to be with people.
07:27But there is no other…
07:30Not a star?
07:31No.
07:32No, no.
07:33I get bored.
07:35Because my life is…
07:37With people, among people.
07:39Permaculture, agriculture, cats, painting.
07:43You are a painter, actress, artist, singer, composer.
07:48Speaking of nature, we always see you in the sea,
07:53in the forest, in the mountains.
07:56Travelling.
07:57When you are travelling,
07:59you are with people.
08:01In a place, you don't have a schedule.
08:03You don't have a VIP car,
08:05you don't have to check in at this time,
08:07you don't have to get to Le Brun before 4pm.
08:10You don't have any of these things,
08:12or these whims.
08:14You can meet artists and hang out with them.
08:16Yes, I can hang out with them, of course.
08:18Of course.
08:19I want to…
08:21For example, in Morocco,
08:24the most important thing for me was
08:26to meet artisans, people,
08:29stories, life.
08:31Because this is what gives me the inspiration to write.
08:35Your voice in Indie Zahra is special,
08:37it is strong, it is particular.
08:39Your voice is very beautiful.
08:41Have you ever thought about
08:45developing, changing, improving your voice?
08:50Always.
08:51Always.
08:52Especially in the process of recording the album.
08:54Of course, we work on the voice,
08:56but the voice also comes with
08:58what you are living.
09:00The voice is your soul.
09:02It is the expression of your soul.
09:05So, what you learn in life
09:08is that it forms the voice.
09:10The voice says what it wants.
09:13It is your experience,
09:16your experience that tells them.
09:18So, the voice carries the emotions.
09:20It is what you live that is transmitted through the voice.
09:23A concrete example, for example,
09:25you have a very good mood.
09:27How do you feel about your voice?
09:29When you are sad, how do you feel about your voice?
09:32The happy voice is...
09:38But I always have the blues in my voice,
09:40even when I try to make joy.
09:42Otherwise, the sad voice is really...
09:48For me, it is always
09:50the nostalgia and the choice of the melody.
09:52Because it is the melody
09:54that will make you happy.
09:56But it is either a weak voice
09:58or a strong voice.
10:00That is the main difference.
10:02Whether you are sad or happy,
10:04the voice is the power that will count.
10:06I don't know if you understand this well,
10:08in music or not,
10:10that the contradiction can be
10:12if there is a fast rhythm,
10:14if there is a fast rhythm,
10:16we say necessarily
10:18that it is a happy song.
10:21Do you understand?
10:23It is minor and major.
10:25Yes, the minor chords and the major chords.
10:27The major chords are the happy chords
10:29and the minor chords are the sad chords.
10:32That's what we say in music.
10:34But we can break the rules.
10:36Why? Because the voice,
10:38the free voice,
10:40whether it is minor or major,
10:42Radith,
10:44it is the emotions that it will carry.
10:46Really, that's the most important thing.
10:48Whether it is minor or major,
10:50melancholy or joy,
10:52your concert, which is coming up,
10:54will be this Friday
10:56in Rabat, Morocco,
10:58at Mohamed V's theater.
11:01What are the surprises
11:03that will be at this concert?
11:05First, we will play
11:07new songs.
11:13Three new songs
11:15that the British
11:17will share with the Moroccan audience
11:19first,
11:21before we release them
11:23in Europe.
11:25Will there be a new set design?
11:27Absolutely.
11:29I have other artists
11:31who came with me
11:33and worked with me
11:35on this project.
11:37The musicians,
11:39an entire team from Morocco,
11:41and a set design
11:43and also
11:45a light creation.
11:47Of course,
11:49there will be music,
11:51there will be world music,
11:53there will be a lot of rock music.
11:55Yes.
11:57Honestly,
11:59I can testify
12:01that the Hindi Zahra concert
12:03will be in your city soon.
12:05You have to come and see
12:07this concert,
12:09because you are living
12:11a very beautiful time.
12:13The Zahra concert
12:15gives you a lot of energy
12:17and gives you a lot of energy.
12:19You are very generous.
12:21It is one of the best concerts
12:23I have ever seen.
12:25So, see you on Friday
12:27at Mohamed V's theater
12:29in Rabat.
12:31Zahra,
12:33what do you think
12:35about the expression
12:37that says,
12:39the more you care,
12:41the more you smile?
12:43Exactly.
12:45Difficulties
12:47are what give you
12:49the strength
12:51to overcome them
12:53and be better
12:55than yesterday.
12:57Always.
12:59You have lived
13:01a lot of hardships
13:03in your life.
13:05Yes.
13:07The more you are sensitive
13:09as an artist
13:11or musician,
13:13the more you live
13:15and the more it
13:17enters your heart.
13:19But,
13:21the luck I have
13:23means that I can
13:25make music.
13:27I can transform
13:29this pain.
13:31This is the richness
13:33of the artists,
13:35the transformation,
13:37from metal to gold.
13:39Yes, but it is difficult.
13:41You just have to
13:43meditate
13:45and see what
13:47you have learned
13:49to overcome it.
13:51What did you learn
13:53from this experience?
13:55A lot.
13:57We don't have time
13:59to look at it.
14:01But,
14:03also,
14:05I had a lot
14:07of the meaning
14:09of sacrifice.
14:11Now, I think
14:13about it.
14:17My goal
14:19is always to be ready
14:21to make music
14:23because it is my mission
14:25in life.
14:27You told me
14:29in an interview
14:31that you don't want to depend
14:33on just one thing.
14:35You want to be independent.
14:37You want to be strong.
14:39You want to be independent
14:41and you don't depend
14:43on just one thing.
14:45What is your opinion
14:47on this?
14:49I believe in education.
14:51I mean,
14:53to be independent
14:55is the most important thing.
14:57The education of girls
14:59and boys is the same thing.
15:01Education is to be able to read,
15:03to work,
15:05and to be able to
15:07move their heads.
15:09And to be able to move their heads.
15:11Yes, and to be able to move
15:13others, yes.
15:15But, my goal
15:17in independence
15:19is the freedom
15:21of the artist
15:23and the artistic independence.
15:25Because
15:27no matter how much you depend on it,
15:29it can make decisions
15:31for you and for your life.
15:33It can tell you,
15:35this is it.
15:37So, this calculation...
15:39It is a dilemma
15:41that many artists
15:43have when they sign with a label.
15:45They lose their freedom,
15:47their artistic freedom.
15:49Absolutely.
15:51But this time,
15:53with the Internet and TikTok
15:55and all that,
15:57whether it's Maria Kares
15:59who lived with Sony,
16:01Whitney Houston,
16:03many women artists
16:05have had... Nina Simone,
16:07Nina Simone,
16:09they took away her rights,
16:11her copyrights
16:13and her intellectual rights.
16:15So,
16:17we have to do something.
16:19Especially at this time,
16:21we have to
16:23protect her creation.
16:25All artists have to protect
16:27their creation and defend it.
16:29Have you ever thought about it?
16:31Ever.
16:33That's why I released my first album
16:35when I was 30 years old.
16:37Because I used my money
16:39to record and produce the album.
16:41They say you prefer
16:43to be the boss,
16:45your own boss.
16:47Yes, to be your own boss.
16:49But when you collaborate
16:51and work with people,
16:53you give them something
16:55so that they can
16:57come out with you.
16:59That's what's important.
17:01Have you ever thought about
17:03creating a fashion brand?
17:05A jewelry brand?
17:07Can we get to this project?
17:09It's a bit difficult.
17:11I didn't think about it
17:13because people say
17:15you have to do merchandising and all that.
17:17The most important thing for me
17:19is to live these years
17:21with a strict minimum
17:23focused on music.
17:25I've never done branding
17:27or anything like that.
17:29I'm not that kind of artist.
17:31I live with my music
17:33because
17:35I produced it.
17:37I produced my music.
17:39That's enough for me.
17:41I'm not a singer
17:43who has to be an influencer
17:45or do makeup.
17:47I think it's very important
17:49when you're an artist
17:51to be
17:53really focused
17:55on your music
17:57and on your art.
17:59This is going to be
18:01more and more important.
18:03The artist has to be
18:05focused on his art.
18:07You don't have to focus
18:09on millions of views.
18:11No, you have to learn
18:13organically.
18:15The songs you make
18:17are chosen by people.
18:19You don't have to pay
18:21for them.
18:23People come to you
18:25but it's not you.
18:27It's your songs.
18:29People never forget
18:31how you made them feel.
18:33Good or bad.
18:35The advantage
18:37and the richness of my music
18:39is that it touches people
18:41and then the songs
18:43that belong to them.
18:45The jewelry
18:47and the rings
18:49are part of the visual identity
18:51and the identity of Hindi Zahra.
18:53The jewelry is part of it.
18:55How did you come up with
18:57the name Hindi Zahra?
18:59This jewelry
19:01is often
19:03the jewelry of travel.
19:05I have Thailand,
19:07I have the Netherlands,
19:09I have, of course,
19:11I have Morocco here,
19:13I have Morocco here.
19:15It's my travels.
19:17Everything is here.
19:19Scandinavia too.
19:21For me,
19:23the jewelry is
19:25like the jewelry in
19:27the Amazigh culture.
19:29For the holidays, the ceremonies,
19:31women always wear it.
19:33And again, it's a little different.
19:35We wear it here.
19:37We wear it here.
19:39The tattoos, we wear it here.
19:41So it's always to pay homage
19:43to all the Amazigh women
19:45who preceded me,
19:47to my family
19:49and to all the Amazigh people.
19:53You have been visiting the Moroccan audience
19:55for the past four years
19:57through the concert.
19:59How was Tanja?
20:01How was Kaza?
20:05Kaza was wonderful.
20:07It was really...
20:09I met people
20:11and at the beginning,
20:13I always wanted to go back to Morocco.
20:15Because in 2015,
20:17when I released
20:19my second album,
20:21I started in Morocco.
20:23I started the international tour
20:25in Morocco.
20:27I don't know why,
20:29I always wanted to be in Morocco first,
20:31to give the Moroccan audience
20:33a place to come
20:35and to go back.
20:37It's the same thing I'm doing now.
20:39The album will be released
20:41in the spring
20:43of 2025.
20:45That's the period.
20:49Before that,
20:51before the release of the album,
20:53I stayed in Morocco
20:55and also worked,
20:57which was important for me,
20:59I worked with Moroccan musicians.
21:01You worked with Moroccan musicians.
21:03Absolutely.
21:05Apart from this concert
21:07and the tour in Morocco,
21:09do you have other concerts
21:11in other countries or cities?
21:13God willing,
21:15I hope to hold festivals here in Morocco.
21:17Because I know
21:19that since I released
21:21the album,
21:23the priority
21:25of the festivals
21:27has always been with Nsara.
21:29But I don't want to say that.
21:31First, I want to say
21:33to the Moroccan people
21:35and to the Moroccan audience
21:37who love my songs,
21:39and also that other Moroccans
21:41discover my music too.
21:43For me, it's important.
21:45Well done, you're right.
21:47Nsara, this four-year concert
21:49was the last cultural activity
21:51before the lockdown.
21:53It was almost the last concert
21:55before the coronavirus
21:57that the whole of Sweden knew about.
21:59Apparently, during the lockdown,
22:01you were in Morocco with Thérèse.
22:03How was the lockdown period?
22:05Magnificent.
22:07I was in front of the sea
22:09and then I went to the mountains.
22:11I was with beautiful people.
22:15And nature was
22:17the one that ruled.
22:19And I like the dream
22:21that nature rules.
22:23Because sometimes nature
22:25is better than us.
22:27I saw animals,
22:29goats, wild boars,
22:31fish.
22:33And skates.
22:35And people
22:37bringing fish
22:39on their own.
22:41I saw a lot of beautiful things.
22:43I really liked
22:45the calmness.
22:47It's better than being in Morocco
22:49and being in a different place.
22:53At that time,
22:55Zahra,
22:57I heard that you bought
22:59the croquettes of Thérèse.
23:03How did you know that?
23:05The croquettes of Thérèse
23:07and the skates
23:09were donated to the food
23:11that Zahra bought for them.
23:13It's true.
23:15There was also an Italian girl
23:17who went to the club
23:19and bought a pair of shoes.
23:23I bought the croquettes
23:25but I bought three tons.
23:27I put them in a vase
23:29every day
23:31and I gave it to them.
23:33Because we should always
23:35support people
23:37who don't have the strength
23:39to support their leaders.
23:41But this is a great love
23:43of animals, Zahra.
23:45Yes, it should be great.
23:47It should be great.
23:49And do animals give you that love?
23:51Always.
23:53They give me a lot of love.
23:55But I understand
23:57their savagery.
23:59But it's really important
24:01for people to respect
24:03the creation of God.
24:05Do you have
24:07a heart?
24:11I'm very discreet
24:13about that.
24:15Leave it personal.
24:19The artistic news of Zahra
24:21will be in concert this week
24:23in Arribato.
24:25The album will be out
24:27in March-April.
24:29Congratulations, Zahra.
24:31Thank you very much for coming.
24:33Any last words?
24:35Thank you, Oussama,
24:37for inviting me.
24:39It's a gift for me.
24:41Thank you very much.
24:43We have reached the end of today's episode.
24:45Thank you to the technical team
24:47and the artists.
24:49See you next week.