Social Media Murders S02E04
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00:00My brother's just been swapped.
00:29Okay, what's his name?
00:30Michael Rainsford.
00:31He's been shot in the house?
00:32Yes, yes, please.
00:33He's been shot by?
00:34We don't know.
00:35Michael, hey, Mike, wake up for me.
00:36What's your name?
00:37My name's Josh.
00:38I'm his brother.
00:39I'm his younger brother.
00:40Josh?
00:41We don't even know if we're safe.
00:42We don't know if we're safe.
00:43All right.
00:44To be here right now.
00:45Are you in the house, are you?
00:46Mike?
00:47Michael?
00:48Michael?
00:49Michael?
00:50Josh?
00:51Josh?
00:52Mike?
00:53Michael?
00:54Mike?
00:55Mike?
00:56Mike?
00:57Mike?
00:58Tomorrow at 7.
00:59Michael's just been pinished by the criminals.
01:00Mikey, wake up for me.
01:01Mike?
01:02Michael?
01:03Mike?
01:04Mike, wake up.
01:05Good evening, Josh.
01:23The murder inquiry is underway after a 20-year-old man was shot dead on Merseyside.
01:29Police were called to Harrington Road in Litherland shortly after 11 o'clock last night.
01:34The victim was taken to hospital but pronounced dead a short time later.
01:53We were just going about at night, me and my dad sat there on the couch watching telly.
02:08My team came in about 11 o'clock, I was just getting ready for bed, almost falling asleep.
02:15She comes in and goes, you're all right dad, would you be able to take me to my girlfriend's
02:20please? She says, hurry up son, it's getting late, I want to go to bed.
02:24So we went in the kitchen and then he started to fill his bag with what he always does,
02:29biscuits, crisps, you know, drinks, stuff for them to have at picnic, you know.
02:33My dad stood up to go out into the kitchen and I followed behind.
02:39And I walked into the kitchen and I got through the door for him and I said,
02:43would you hurry up Michael, I'm waiting to go to bed and I never finished that sentence.
02:51The loudest bangs I've ever heard.
02:59And you'd gone from half asleep, you know, to being in the war zone.
03:07Michael ran across me, startled, probably not knowing what had happened.
03:14And we just, we got into the hall and we were just trying to be somewhere where there was no windows.
03:26And I thought everything was okay, because obviously I'm like, he's running,
03:31so first thing I do as soon as I see that there's holes in the windows, I get a phone,
03:37I get straight on the phone to my man.
03:40Me and Michael got a hold of each other, just huddling, you know, and then he said,
03:47Dad, and then he slumped.
03:55He just fell backwards and kind of like just slouched down the wall.
04:00And that's when we realised he'd been shot.
04:06All right, what injuries has he got?
04:08Where's he been shot?
04:09Where's he been shot?
04:10He's dozed off, he's been shot in the side.
04:12Oh, nice, okay.
04:13Please, please.
04:15He told us to check for, lift his shirt up.
04:19And we could see one hole in his chest and one hole in his back.
04:25And I lost, I lost the plot then.
04:30Stop, stop, stop, stop.
04:34I grabbed a cloth to try and cover his gunshot wounds.
04:39That wasn't effective, though.
04:41I had the 999 on the phone, on the speaker,
04:45shouting down the phone, telling me what to do.
04:48But because of the commotion and what was going on,
04:51hearing me brother trying to breathe and me dad screaming and me crying,
04:57it was a lot to take in at the moment.
04:59So we were just doing what we could.
05:01Yeah, yeah, no, no, that's the exit, where the entrance was.
05:05He's been shot.
05:09And I started to give Michael chest compressions.
05:15And he just made this noise.
05:21And it was like a roar.
05:28Now, for him, some of that didn't want to die.
05:35And I looked at him, he was terrified.
05:38He was terrified.
05:40There was nothing I could do about it.
05:43And then the...
05:48..the colour just drained from him.
05:50He just died in front of me.
05:53He just died, rolled back in his head, and his colour went.
05:57He just died right in front of me.
06:07Me house was now full of armed police officers,
06:11guns and rifles.
06:13They just asked me if I knew what had gone on.
06:17I just couldn't even speak, I didn't know what had gone on.
06:20And we were escorted from our house.
06:22We were told that it was now a crime scene
06:25and we weren't able to retrieve any of our personal belongings
06:29or anything like that.
06:30We were just told, if you've got somewhere to stay,
06:34you're just going to have to go there now.
06:39And we left the property.
06:41And there was ambulances, police cars,
06:45down this little quiet street.
06:47All with the blue lights flashing.
06:49But none of us out.
06:58A 20-year-old man was shot dead on Merseyside.
07:02Talented skateboarder Michael Rainsford
07:04was hit by two bullets in his Litherland home.
07:07The victim was taken to hospital
07:09but pronounced dead a short time later.
07:12Everyone was really worried.
07:15Everyone was really shocked.
07:17Especially people living in that area.
07:19It could easily have been any of their sons or daughters.
07:31No-one could comprehend my regime.
07:33No-one could comprehend.
07:45I first became aware of this murder
07:49probably about half five, six o'clock in the morning.
07:53I got a call from my senior officer.
08:00Upon attending the scene,
08:03the initial thought is that
08:06whosoever had carried out this attack
08:10meant to kill Mikey.
08:12Mikey was executed in his kitchen.
08:16The reason why I came to that conclusion
08:20was the spacings between the two shots.
08:26The shooter was actually tracking Mikey,
08:29which meant that the first shot was discharged
08:33and when Mikey ran, the person who was shot
08:37would have had to physically change their direction,
08:40the point in the firearm, and shot at Mikey again.
08:4420-year-old Michael Rainsford was shot dead in Litherland on Tuesday.
08:49Merseyside police are continuing to ask anyone...
08:57In a series of raids this morning,
08:59Merseyside police tried to track down some of those behind the violence.
09:03The fear for the public, though,
09:05is that these gangs clearly have no regard for their own lives,
09:09let alone these young children
09:11or anybody else on the streets of Merseyside.
09:16Michael's murder occurred in the Litherland Seaforth area of Sefton.
09:21Because of the area that it's taken place in and the firearm being used,
09:25you can't help but have one of your lines of inquiry being,
09:29is this a gang-related murder?
09:31Like a lot of places, you have the street gangs,
09:34the people that are involved in low-level drug dealing and things like that,
09:38but I think one thing that is the case on Merseyside
09:41is perhaps more of them have access to guns.
09:46I wanted to have a look in Mikey's room
09:50to see was there evidence of wealth?
09:54There were no large sums of money lying around,
09:57there were definitely no drugs and there were no guns.
10:00All in all, there was nothing to suggest
10:04he was involved in serious criminality.
10:07He was an innocent person, you know, and he wasn't involved in gangs.
10:13And that's all I can say.
10:26I've got, like, a little surprise for him.
10:29Good job.
10:32He was like cat and dog.
10:34He was your normal brother relationship.
10:36You love each other and you hate each other.
10:38Yeah, what are you doing?!
10:40He was the glue to our family.
10:42I was proud.
10:44I looked up to him. He was my role model in life.
10:47For everything, really.
10:49I am who I am today because of him.
11:00There's no-one that can think of Mikey.
11:03Where was he? Everyone will say Bramworks.
11:10I used to like watching other children watching him
11:13because he was the next level over these kids.
11:18He definitely had an ability, maybe a lack of fear.
11:22Mikey, at 13, was that far down.
11:25He was skating with us at 21 to 25.
11:34There's not a word for it.
11:36Prodigy.
11:38It's got to be that.
11:42It's disheartening because you think about what he could be now,
11:46even a couple of years on.
11:49Yeah, there was potential, massive potential.
11:52I definitely reckon he could be up there with the big dogs.
11:56I'm definitely representing London in the Olympics.
12:05Merseyside Police say a man who was shot dead in Liverland
12:08on Tuesday was 20-year-old Michael Rainsford.
12:11Officers are continuing to ask anyone with dashcam or CCTV
12:15footage from Harrington Road to contact them.
12:20The police struggle to solve these crimes
12:23because there's a wall of silence,
12:26grass culture, I think they call it, or whatever.
12:39People are reluctant to come forward and give you information.
12:42People are reluctant to come forward and give you information
12:45for fear that they will be dragged into those events themselves.
12:50As the SIO, I will speak to neighbours myself.
12:55The thing that stood out to me was a lot of them were fearful.
13:00A lot of them were shocked.
13:03We cannot resolve these problems on our own.
13:06We're desperately in need of our community's help.
13:13HE CLICKS HIS TONGUE
13:23Everyone was heartbroken when they found out it was him.
13:28I got loads of messages on my PlayStation from friends saying,
13:33is it true, has he actually died?
13:42The social media side of things, with Snapchat and Instagram,
13:47I was waking up to 200 messages on Snapchat alone.
13:54Usually when it comes to things like this in our area,
13:58people don't talk.
14:00But when words got around that that had happened to Michael,
14:04literally everyone in the community was speaking out
14:07about everything they knew because they loved him.
14:11He loved him.
14:17There was rumours floating around about certain things, you know,
14:22people putting up on Snapchat.
14:25I'd heard nicknames.
14:29One was Wim and one was Pip.
14:33That was within hours of the murder.
14:35That came through lots of people on social media.
14:39Just, you know, saying, it's Pip, it's Pip.
14:45We didn't know who Pip was.
14:47We didn't know who Pip was.
15:18People were telling us about communications that were on social media.
15:26We started getting names,
15:28and the two other names that got featured a lot were Pip and Worm.
15:37We needed to know who they were.
15:43Most investigations, however serious they are,
15:46will often find policing turning to social media.
15:51People live their lives on social media,
15:53and it's the same for people who are involved in gangs.
15:57A big part of their psyche is trying to make themselves look credible,
16:02boost their own reputation, make themselves look stronger.
16:05What we've seen since September
16:07is an unprecedented rise in the number of shootings.
16:10It's the third fatal shooting in Liverpool in the last week.
16:13The gang's activities left the people who live here,
16:16and this is the word the police use, petrified.
16:20There's a lot of bravado there, part of the bravado,
16:23when it comes to the police,
16:25when it comes to the police,
16:27when it comes to the police,
16:29when it comes to the police,
16:31when it comes to the police,
16:33part of the bravado when it comes to gangland
16:35is the temptation to get yourself involved with feuds,
16:39pick fights, try to look hard, try to build your credibility.
16:43As part of my role as crime reporter,
16:45I've covered quite a significant number of stories
16:48in the South Sefton area, which incorporates Seaforth,
16:51incorporates Liverland,
16:53is an area where there have been pockets of gangland activity,
16:56and those involved in it have had quite a serious impact
17:00and influence on the many, many innocent people
17:03living around them.
17:11We lived on Kirkstone, which is known to people as a gang area,
17:16but the part where we lived was kind of secluded
17:19from what was going on.
17:21You read in the Echo that there's the name of this gang,
17:24but that's not something that you would say,
17:27oh, there's one there. It was never anything like that.
17:30We were aware of these two separate factions,
17:35both concentrated around the south end of Sefton,
17:39which is only relatively small.
17:41One was known as the Kirkstone Riot Squad, KRS,
17:45and then you had the Lineker Young Guns.
17:48The Lineker Young Guns was more of an organised group.
17:53Sadly, what sat at the centre
17:56of some of these gang and gang violence was control of turf.
18:03Liverpool has had over the years a couple of cases
18:06that have resonated on a national and international level.
18:09We have chaotic, disenfranchised young men
18:12with access to firearms
18:14who just don't care about the consequence of them
18:17and just more than comfortable with using them
18:20to solve the most minor of disputes.
18:22As a result of that, innocent people are exposed to their crime
18:26and their vindictiveness, and we see that time and time again.
18:30Rhys had been shot in the neck
18:32and was dying in the car park still in his football kit.
18:36A nine-year-old girl, Olivia Pratt Corbell,
18:39has lost her life, shot in her own home.
18:44Talented skateboarder Michael Rainsford was never in any trouble,
18:48says his heartbroken dad.
18:50The tragic Michael Rainsford this evening spoke of his grief
18:53about the murder of his son four days ago.
18:56Most criminal offences are not committed with a firearm,
19:01so the killer is going to be further up in any level of criminality.
19:06You do lend yourself towards thinking
19:09that this probably is going to be a gang-related murder.
19:14We had witnesses gave us vital clues,
19:17one of which was the perpetrators, plural as in two,
19:22had arrived at the scene on an electric motorbike
19:26and that they had left on this electric motorbike.
19:30And we had a possible colour, which was either bronze or reddish colour.
19:37We knew that social media would be alive with this,
19:41and that started to provide names for us.
19:44We started getting intel suggesting that Pip and Worm were brothers,
19:52namely James and Michael Foy.
19:58I'd never heard of the Foys before, no.
20:00No, never heard of them.
20:02I'd never heard of them, didn't know who they were.
20:05I just know that it was two kids, the Foy brothers.
20:08Don't really know the names, didn't really know any of the people,
20:11I just knew the areas that were sort of rife with the gangs and stuff,
20:14and you just thought to either just nip through or just stay away.
20:18But you'd never sort of linger in them areas, just in case.
20:23I was aware of the Foys because three years earlier
20:26I'd sat in the Liverpool Crown Court with one of those brothers,
20:29with Michael Foy.
20:31I was there for the Echo Covenant.
20:34They had arrested and charged Michael Foy for drug dealing.
20:38He was repeatedly caught dealing to undercover police,
20:41so he was already kind of on my radar, essentially,
20:44because I'd literally sat there, watched him get jailed.
20:49James was in his late teens, Michael was in his early 20s,
20:53associated to gang life and gang lifestyle.
20:58These were two boys that liked to ride off-road bikes,
21:01caused a lot of issues for the people that lived nearby.
21:04They are individuals who we've arrested previously
21:07for a multitude of offences.
21:10So we were aware of the Foys,
21:12we were aware of their criminal activities.
21:15Was there something that Mikey had done to upset someone
21:19that we weren't aware of?
21:35On the night of the murder, a local PC was patrolling the area.
21:40Futuritously, Constable Greer, a local police officer,
21:45was in that vicinity when she noticed two youngsters
21:50with what she thought was a scrambler bike.
21:53So her immediate thought was, well, that bike looks like trouble.
21:56You had loads of issues with scrambler bikes,
21:59causing disorder, criminality, etc.
22:01So she immediately put a call in for back-up
22:03and her idea was to basically cordon off that road
22:06and prevent the bike getting out.
22:08And while she was waiting for back-up, the bike disappeared.
22:14PC Greer noticed the broken window
22:17and this is the home address of Joyce Smith and the two sons.
22:22She spoke to Joyce, who explained to the officer
22:28that an unknown person or persons had caused damage to the window.
22:33She remarked that one of the bricks had nearly hit her.
22:47Yeah, I'm just taking a statement from Joyce now.
22:50All the glass came flying through the blind.
22:53And that's where they found the first brick,
22:56behind the two seats there, inside the living room.
23:01Sorry, but obviously you said about the boys coming back.
23:05They might have done.
23:07Well, you said to me before that they had come back.
23:10Well, they hadn't come in.
23:11No, but they'd been back, they hadn't come in, yeah?
23:13They hadn't come in, so...
23:15How long after was it? Did you text the boys and tell them?
23:18Yeah. Yeah.
23:20What are your sons' names?
23:22Yeah.
23:24I know who they are, mate, but I don't want to put words into your mouth.
23:32The officer asked about the two males who were on this bike
23:36and she was told by Smith that, oh, yes,
23:41it was her sons who were using the bike,
23:45namely James and Michael Foy.
23:48We knew that they would have been made aware by their mum
23:52that her windows had been smashed.
23:54So it gave us a possible motive.
23:57Was the smashing of the window using a brick a precursor to this?
24:02Particularly because the times of that were quite close together.
24:06The window was smashed at around quarter past ten in the evening.
24:10Michael was murdered within the hour.
24:13Clearly we're thinking, do the Foys know something that we don't,
24:16that it was Michael who'd smashed the window?
24:3220-year-old Michael Rainsford was hit by two bullets in his Litherland home.
24:37Murder squad detectives are urging the public to contact them
24:40to help solve the tragic and violent crime.
24:47We're interested in finding the firearm.
24:50We want to get that dangerous weapon off the streets.
24:53But we also want to find the orange-coloured Surin bike.
25:02As the investigation starts to gather pace,
25:04we have key intelligence officers who are looking at social media posts.
25:09We were aware that Michael and James Foy had access to
25:14a number of electric bikes.
25:16One in particular, a sort of orangey-bronze coloured electric bike.
25:23We conducted CCTV inquiries in the locality of where the Foys lived.
25:31We were able to get evidence of them using said bike or similar bike
25:37over a period of time leading up to the murder.
25:45About two days after the murder,
25:49we had sufficient evidence to obtain a warrant,
25:54which we executed at the home address of the Foys.
25:59We searched that property and we did not find the gun.
26:05We did not find the bike.
26:08And coincidentally, all of them,
26:13so James, Michael and Joyce, their mother,
26:19just happened to lose their phones about the same time.
26:23The bike that was used has never been recovered.
26:27The gun that was used to kill Michael has never been recovered.
26:32Having no gun, having no witnesses does cause us a problem.
26:37Individual police forces try and do what they can.
26:40A series of operations here in Merseyside...
26:43Police say the violence was fuelled by postcode tribalism.
26:53Unfortunately, it seems to be you can have a community of people
26:56where you've got 98, 99% of the community
27:00are all just getting on with their lives
27:02and then there's this 1% that are involved in criminality.
27:07I don't think it was ever growing up, it was a concern,
27:10because my children weren't part of that world.
27:23Something happened which kind of pulled that image off
27:27living where we lived.
27:36I was downstairs one night, just watching telly,
27:39cuddling with the dog,
27:41and I heard this really, really loud engine rev.
27:46Mikey was at a block of flats,
27:48just chilling with his friends as you normally would,
27:51and he was sat on a pedal bike,
27:53and this mopeds come onto the estate and bumped up onto the kerb.
27:57And he drove at the four of them.
28:01There's been two people on it,
28:02and the person on the back has had a machete in his hand.
28:05Everybody ran into the flat,
28:07but because my brother had a pedal bike, he's had to pedal off.
28:12Michael got on his bike and pedalled home, and he followed them.
28:18Mikey just managed to get into the front garden,
28:21threw the bike into the bushes,
28:23and he's jumped over the back gate and ran in.
28:26He actually hit him, trying to kick the door through
28:29to try and get a hold of him.
28:31His face is pale white, he's out of breath.
28:34You can tell that he'd been shut up.
28:36He was just shouting, phone the police, phone the police.
28:39And all we could hear was a roaring of a motorbike engine
28:43outside the house.
28:45He looked out the window to see them with the bike on his shoulder
28:50on the back of the moped, and he took the bike and left.
28:54And then we phoned the police,
28:56and they came round quite quickly to ask questions.
28:59We didn't know who it was.
29:01We knew they had balaclavas, and they were wearing all black.
29:06It scared him. He was petrified, you know.
29:09As you rightly would be if somebody came up to you with a machete.
29:13You know, it did indicate that he wanted to move after that.
29:22The Kirkstone Road north area of Litherland
29:24has been a flashpoint for crime and disorder over recent years,
29:28with locals complaining about a feared local gang
29:31called the Kirkstone Riot Squad.
29:33Mikey's grown up in an area where there are lads at the same age as him
29:37that are involved in criminal activity.
29:40He might be nothing to do with them,
29:42but grown up in the same area, he'd go to the same schools,
29:45be at the same community clubs, they'd have mutual friends.
29:48Never, ever something you'd see Mikey involved in,
29:51but it would be for something you've been accused of doing.
29:56As soon as your name comes out of someone's mouth,
29:59it's not just words anymore.
30:01It's hard to describe, but once someone says something about you
30:05and it gets about, the word spreads quick.
30:09It's Chinese whispers all around that area.
30:17All I know is that he wanted to get away and just go somewhere safer,
30:21cos he knew it wasn't safe.
30:24I wish that's one of my many regrets, is that I didn't act on it.
30:29But, you know, I just thought it was a nice, nice little incident.
30:54If we look at any investigation,
30:56we'll start to try to build a timeline or a chronology
30:59of how the events took place and who was involved.
31:02And in our early stages,
31:04we obviously knew that at about quarter past ten that evening,
31:07on the 7th of April,
31:09that the Foyes window had been smashed by somebody using a brick.
31:17Immediately after this window was smashed,
31:21Joyce had contacted her sons, James and Michael Foye,
31:26who I categorised as suspects.
31:30Even though we haven't got the physical handsets,
31:34your phone will be leaving a history.
31:37It will be telling the mass which one it was talking to,
31:41when it was talking to, the movements of the phone.
31:44It's there. That's the footprint.
31:46We were able to get the expert to show us
31:50which phone mass James and Michael's phones were tying to
31:55during the journey from Joyce's call and after the murder.
32:00Cell site data is absolutely fantastic,
32:04but it's not perfect.
32:07So cell site data won't put you directly on this road or in this house.
32:12It will give us an idea, the vicinity, the general direction of travel.
32:21BEEPING
32:27You said about the boys coming back?
32:29They might have done.
32:31Well, you said to me before that they had come back.
32:34Well, they hadn't come in.
32:36No, but they'd been back, they hadn't come in yet, and they have a red...
32:39Was it a red electric scooter, you said? Electric bike?
32:43We know from Constable Greer's statement and some CCTV evidence
32:49that the bike travelled to the mum's address at the relevant time.
32:54And again, the CCTV showed the two figures on the bike leaving Rossini,
33:02the family seat of four brothers, Michael and James,
33:07and going towards Harrington Road, the location of Mikey's house.
33:12I would say it was almost like they were predators,
33:15they were hunting somebody.
33:17It's clear that that same bike was what was caught on the CCTV
33:21going to Mikey Rainsford's address.
33:25Sadly, you could hear the gunshots on the CCTV.
33:28You could hear the two shots.
33:30GUNSHOTS
33:39After the murder, we were able to create a compilation
33:43of them taking the journey back home.
33:51Prosecuting any murder is often very, very challenging.
33:55I looked at the evidence to think, have I missed anything?
33:58Although we had the cell site, although we had the CCTV,
34:01somebody could look at it and go, these are circumstantial.
34:04I knew those weren't just the evidence needed to prove.
34:14EERIE MUSIC
34:36Michael Foy, who's 22, and James Foy, who's 19,
34:39are accused of killing 20-year-old Michael Rainsford,
34:42who was shot in his home in Litherland in April last year.
34:47I won't lie, I am always really nervous.
34:50It's my case. I am the SIO. The buck stops with me.
34:55There was always a sense of jeopardy around the case
34:57because it was largely one that was based on circumstantial evidence.
35:00There is no murder weapon.
35:02There is no bike.
35:04So there's nothing you can actually, you know, show to the jury.
35:0920-year-old Michael Rainsford was shot dead in Litherland...
35:12Brothers Michael and James Foy deny killing him.
35:18Mike, his family were quite sombre, probably really nervous.
35:23It's not every day you walk into the Crown Court.
35:27It lasted for four weeks.
35:30It was very hard because this is all alien.
35:34The whole thing was alien, you know.
35:36I went through about half of the trial
35:39and it kind of got too much for me, so I stopped going.
35:44I just had my dad come home and tell me the updates.
35:47I went to all of the trial.
35:49That was traumatic, seeing those faces every day
35:52and just thinking they showed no remorse.
35:56You're sitting there wondering, what's the jury thinking?
35:59Because they sounded almost plausible.
36:02They denied having anything to do with Mikey's murder.
36:05They just denied everything.
36:08We've seen when people have been found not guilty at trials
36:13and the impact that that then can have on a family.
36:21That was a key piece of evidence, that Snapchat information.
36:28We have done a number of warrants and arrests
36:32at various people's home addresses.
36:35We seized an individual's phone.
36:38A download of that recovered a Snapchat video.
36:46An account we believe were controlled by James Foy
36:50had posted this message to Mike.
36:53The picture that we knew were posted onto Snapchat
36:56was somebody sitting astride the orange Saran motorcycle,
37:01this electric bike, and they took a picture
37:04so you could see the key fob and you could see bits of the frame.
37:08There was only ever one orange bike.
37:11Every other bike was black.
37:13And that was a key. That was a key.
37:17What the person then wrote...
37:21Tell your ma, duck.
37:25Don't use bricks.
37:27And then there were two emojis.
37:31Bang, bang.
37:33Mikey was killed by two shots.
37:39By then, that is saying,
37:41you know what, you've thrown a brick through our house,
37:44this is what we're going to do.
37:49I could not believe that somebody would be so blasé
37:54to brag literally minutes before taking somebody's life
38:00and posting it on social media.
38:03But there it was.
38:06I think most users of Snapchat think that what they post
38:09gets automatically deleted after 24 hours.
38:12I think that's probably what James Foy thought.
38:14In this case, it wasn't on James' phone
38:17that the damning message was found.
38:19It was on somebody else's.
38:21By virtue of them deciding to reply to a message that James had sent,
38:24their phone had retained the image.
38:27The person posting the message, James,
38:31probably would not think in a month or so
38:35that his mate would have had it on his device.
38:39But luckily for us, he didn't.
38:41He didn't.
38:42He didn't.
38:43He didn't.
38:44He didn't.
38:45He didn't.
38:46He didn't.
38:47He didn't.
38:48He didn't.
38:49He didn't.
38:50He didn't.
38:51He didn't.
38:52He didn't.
38:53His mate would have had it on his device.
38:55But luckily for us, it was there.
39:17Michael and James Foy, who have gang links to Lineker Young Guns,
39:21were found guilty of gunning down the 20-year-old in his kitchen.
39:30The Snapchat message linked to James Foy's account
39:34was the most damning piece of evidence that the police had,
39:37and ultimately that was a crucial piece of evidence
39:40that, you know, helped convict the Foys.
39:43Michael was sentenced to life imprisonment,
39:4630 years, minimum 30 years to serve,
39:49and James, even though just 18, is sentenced to 28 years.
39:54It was a shard of relief.
39:59But...
40:01It was... It wasn't...
40:03I knew that ultimately that trial wasn't going to bring...
40:06That's the most important thing, is Michael.
40:09And it's not going to bring Michael back.
40:12It was as the verdict came back guilty
40:16and everybody were leaving the court
40:19and a few of the defendants were shouting
40:22and trying to intimidate members of the jury.
40:26They all started screaming and shouting
40:28and they showed their true colours, you know.
40:31Punching walls and threatening, you know.
40:35Making threats and things like that.
40:38He looked over at the family and Michael Foy said,
40:41I'll be out in 20 years, but Mikey will still be in the mud.
40:53My conclusion was,
40:54Mikey had nothing to do with that window being smashed.
40:59He had categorical evidence against him.
41:02He had nothing to do with that window being smashed.
41:06He had categorically nothing to do with the broken window.
41:11He used Michael's phone,
41:13so they were able to track him right through the day,
41:16right through the night.
41:18And the last time he took a reading was in the mortuary,
41:21at Aintree Hospital.
41:23That's where Michael's phone was, in his pocket.
41:33It was our forever castle, that's what it was.
41:36It was a lovely big back garden.
41:38We had lovely neighbours.
41:40Lovely streets.
41:42That's where we made a million memories.
41:47You know, from Halloweens, birthdays, Christmas, Easter.
41:53We had a lovely family.
41:55We had a lovely family.
41:57We had a lovely family.
41:59Halloweens, birthdays, Christmas, Easter.
42:03Trampolines, you know, you jump that high.
42:17We tried. We lived there for a few months.
42:20But we did get death threats through social media.
42:25And I think that was the tipping point.
42:29You're going to be in a date like your brother.
42:32I'm going to put holes in your chest
42:34and leave you in a box and stuff like that.
42:45But we had to take the heaviest ever decision to leave.
42:50And we couldn't even tell the neighbours.
42:52We had to leave and not tell anybody, which was heartbreaking.
42:56We had to leave and not tell anybody, which was heartbreaking.
42:59We just left in the night.
43:16It's impossible to say why Mikey.
43:21We believed that an old friend of Michael's
43:24had received a phone call from the Foy brothers
43:27asking for somebody's address on a kirkstone.
43:31Because their window was bricked
43:35and this person gave our Michael's name in.
43:38We believed that that's the reason he was chosen.
43:43Somebody threw his name in the hat and he was chosen.
43:48I think that third party all knew both Mikey
43:52and had contact with the Foy's.
43:55That person would have known where Mikey resides.
43:58That person would have known who Mikey hung around with.
44:02And I believe that person betrayed Mikey on the night
44:06by telling the Foy's where he lived.
44:10There's no justification, you know, at all.
44:13You know, even through their mobbed gangster world,
44:18there's no justification for what they've done.
44:21It's just evil visited our home that night
44:24and took away, you know, our lovely son.
44:39He was such an outgoing character.
44:42He was so bubbly, like, as soon as he'd smile,
44:45it would just light up the room.
44:47He was known for his charming smile.
44:52There was something about him, you know.
44:54He always had that little sparkle in his eyes.
44:57Yeah, yeah. Dad, can you see me?
45:01I just want him to be remembered for the loving, caring brother he was.
45:05I was very proud, very proud.