Is Joe Mazzulla the best coach in the NBA?? Where does he rank? Better than Spoelstra?
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00:00The goal, obviously, is to do it again, Wiggy.
00:03To win a chip, and that is Joe Mizzoula, a.k.a. Clapback Joe,
00:07a.k.a. we got a target on our chest, Joe, and a.k.a. best coach in the NBA right now.
00:13Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
00:15Yes.
00:16Best coach in the NBA right now?
00:17Who's better?
00:18Eric Spolstra?
00:19No.
00:20To think of how young Joe Mizzoula is and what he's done with this team.
00:24What? What has he done with this team?
00:25Getting them all on the same page. Curtis, how much different are the actual players on this team
00:30than they were under Brad Stevens?
00:32Are the Celtics the most talented team in the NBA?
00:35No, I would think a lot of people would say no.
00:37No, I'm asking you.
00:38No.
00:39Who would say, they'd say Dallas is more talented?
00:41They would say Dallas. There would be teams that say Milwaukee.
00:44There would be people that say Milwaukee.
00:45There would be people that say Denver.
00:47In what way are Dallas more talented than the Celtics?
00:51There are people that would say-
00:52I'm not asking about people.
00:53Because I'm telling you, you're asking me-
00:55Right, and then you're saying there would be people.
00:58But I'm a Celtics homer.
00:59So I'm going to always say the Celtics.
01:01But I'm giving you the national narrative of why people would say Dallas.
01:06Because people think Luka Doncic is better than Jason Tatum.
01:10But Curtis, clearly you think that they're the most talented team in the NBA, correct?
01:14Absolutely.
01:14Okay, but how much different are they right now than they were under Brad Stevens,
01:18that they were under Imei?
01:20They won two more games than they did with Imei in the season.
01:24No, I'm saying the players on the team.
01:27How much different talent-wise are they now?
01:29The only difference is Boas Angus.
01:30Okay.
01:31Wiggy and I agree that the biggest difference was getting rid of Marcus Smart,
01:34which allowed Jalen and Jason to be who they are.
01:35But you're not letting me finish my question.
01:37All I'm saying, that is, if you're going to come at Joe Mazzulla,
01:39Joe Mazzulla was able to get all of these great players,
01:42this very talented team, on the same page.
01:44Other coaches haven't been able to win a championship with these same guys.
01:48Right, because Marcus Smart was on the team, precluding them from being a unit.
01:51That subtraction was an addition to the success of the organization.
01:55I think, of course, Eric Spolstra wins a championship with this team.
01:59Of course.
02:00So, Curtis, who would you say is currently, if it's not Joe Mazzulla, who is the best coach?
02:05I would probably say Spolstra.
02:06Every year he gets more out of less.
02:08But, I mean, I'm not saying that Mazzulla should be fired.
02:11I was dead wrong.
02:11He won a championship.
02:12I was wrong a thousand times.
02:14But to say he's the best coach in the NBA.
02:17He is.
02:17That's like saying the Yankees manager is always the best manager.
02:21But you don't have the best team in the NBA.
02:24But the majority of people, NBA insiders, would say that the Celtics don't have the best roster.
02:31I mean, you look at the addition of Porzingis.
02:33Yeah.
02:34Granted, he, you know, wasn't available throughout the entire regular season last year.
02:39But I, this team is, Curtis is right.
02:43They're good.
02:43At the, it's.
02:45They're not good.
02:45They're the best team in the NBA.
02:47They're the overwhelming favorite to win again.
02:49Overwhelming.
02:51They have twice, more than twice.
02:53They're plus 300.
02:54I mean, the second favorite is plus 700.
02:56And how is he supposed to be the best coach?
02:57I just said it.
02:57Because he's won more than one title.
03:02Okay.
03:02Couldn't you say he brought the big three together?
03:04Who got them on the same page?
03:06Let me ask you this question.
03:07When he won his championships, did he not have the best team in the NBA?
03:13Hands down with LeBron James, D Wade, and Chris Bosh.
03:16Exactly.
03:17And we didn't say he was the best coach.
03:19No, no.
03:20Nobody said he was.
03:21He was a punchline.
03:22The overwhelming majority of people back then when Spolster was the coach of the, of the heat
03:30during them championship runs would hands down say Miami has the best talent because they have
03:36LeBron and D Wade.
03:38The majority of people, NBA people out throughout the circuits all over the country would not say
03:47the Celtics have the best talent.
03:50But I don't know what you're talking about.
03:51They are overwhelming favorites.
03:53They're the overwhelming favorites.
03:55They have the best roster in the NBA.
03:56No, no.
03:57You asked the question.
03:58They have the best roster.
03:58And I said, the majority of people, NBA people would tell you they don't.
04:02They are more than twice as likely to be the favorite to win the championship according
04:06to the latest odds.
04:07Because they have a good roster and they have a great coach and a great place.
04:15But when it comes to starting five.
04:17Starting five.
04:18Not just your big.
04:19Yes, they have.
04:21They probably have the best starting five in the league.
04:24Greg, how many people, Greg, how many, how many people, Greg, when this, when the heat
04:30one with LeBron Bosch and D I'm asking Greg a question, Greg, how many people, when they won
04:36said, Eric Spolster is the best coach in the NBA.
04:39Not many.
04:40That would be zero because they were hands down the best talent, right?
04:44Eric Spolster got a lot of respect and adoration because he beat this Celtics team and got
04:49to an NBA final.
04:51And that is how he established himself as a very respected coach.
04:55But you don't have hands down the best talent.
04:57And Greg, to your point of your starting five, Jason Tatum.
05:02Clearly is a all NBA player, but the guy can't even get off the end of the bench in the Olympics.
05:08Oh, that's a good rubric.
05:10Jalen Brown.
05:11Jalen Brown.
05:12Drew holiday.
05:13But these are guys, but these are guys, but these are guys posing us when he was in Dallas
05:20and then throw Derek white.
05:21Right.
05:21It's a really, really, really came out of nowhere though.
05:24We can all agree, but that's what I'm saying.
05:28You're giving credit to Joe Mizzou.
05:29Yes.
05:30Yes.
05:30Okay.
05:30And that's what I'm saying.
05:31And like the whole national narrative after they won was like, they only won cause they
05:35had an easy road.
05:36So they're not putting it on the talent.
05:37And they're the overwhelming favorites to win it all.
05:40And before Porzingis got here, Porzingis was a guy that was viewed as an underachiever
05:47because he couldn't stay healthy.
05:48Cause he was in Dallas.
05:49Yeah.
05:49Part of it.
05:50He's couldn't stay healthy.
05:50That was it.
05:51It wasn't like he couldn't achieve.
05:52No, no, no.
05:52But part of it is we couldn't stay healthy, but it wouldn't, when he was in New York,
05:56he wasn't able to elevate that team.
05:58Right.
05:58So Porzingis comes here as a, as a really good basketball player.
06:03And you start to look at the starting five drew holiday.
06:05Another one great role player.
06:07When he thinks the bucks have a better roster than the Celtics.
06:12You don't think that people will view the box.
06:15Their roster is better.
06:16No, nobody.
06:17Lillard, Yonatan Takupu.
06:19Oh, speaking of can't stay healthy.
06:20Um, uh, Middleton, Brooke Lopez.
06:24Let's see what the odds are.
06:25Where are the bucks here?
06:26They are not even in the top five and odds to win the championship.
06:30They are at plus 1200, four times less likely.
06:33That's based on Vegas.
06:35Wait.
06:35Okay.
06:35Who puts money in Vegas?
06:37I don't know.
06:38What do you mean?
06:38Who puts money?
06:39People who know about the NBA.
06:41Who's the odds on favor to win the championship in the NFL?
06:45The chiefs.
06:45Do they, do they have the best roster?
06:47No, they have the best player.
06:48The most important position.
06:50They don't.
06:50So when you look at the Celtics and that's why I said the majority of NBA talking heads
06:56would tell you that the Celtics don't have the best roster.
07:00Does anybody else here think the bucks have a better roster than the Celtics?
07:03Um, no, I'm asking, I'm asking everybody else.
07:05You're asking, um, you're asking fans.
07:09You're asking homers.
07:10Okay.
07:10So who should I ask?
07:11Oh, ask NBA, ask any NBA insider.
07:14Okay.
07:14I will.
07:14Let's do that today.
07:15Oh, who's the guy that we, um, had on the phone?
07:17Um, we had a one time that called up and what else his name?
07:21Uh, no, that's a great idea.
07:23No, no.
07:24I'm trying to think on the show.
07:26No, we had the guy on who said that things about, uh, Jason Taylor, Doug Gottlieb, right?
07:34Didn't want to play for a black coach of like UW something.
07:37He's a basketball insider.
07:39We got to take a quick break.
07:41I allowed this show to get completely off schedule.
07:43It's a great conversation.
07:44I'm just giving you facts, Mike.
07:46I appreciate it.
07:47Wiggy says, Joe Mazzola, the best coach in the NBA.
07:51Find me a better one.
07:52Find them a better one.
07:53We will be.
07:53Coach Spoh got screwed in Miami.
07:55He should have been coach of the year.