EL DRAMA DE VIVIR EN EL CONURBANO BONAERENSE
Una mujer en San Justo, vivió momentos de terror cuando cinco delincuentes irrumpieron en su casa a las 4 de la mañana. A pesar de los sistemas de seguridad y alarmas vecinales, los criminales lograron retenerla y volver a ingresarla a su hogar tras un intento de escape. Este incidente resalta la creciente inseguridad y la ineficacia de algunas medidas comunitarias para prevenir delitos graves.
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00:00Through the sound of insecurity.
00:03The one that wakes up the neighbors, the one that makes the neighbors' alarms ring.
00:08That some react and can call 911.
00:18Fences, fences.
00:22As if they were unbreakable fortifications that do not end up being, because yesterday we told you.
00:29These are the seconds in which, no matter how much you have everything at home, they can approach you.
00:39There we see a woman as she manages to get out.
00:42Of course, she was at home, they surprise her inside.
00:45The woman escapes, or tries to escape, and the criminals chase her and put her back in.
00:50You imagine what the nightmare is for this woman on Lesica Street in San Justo.
00:55She also tries in some way to ask for help from the neighbors.
00:58The desperation of what was this robbery at 4 in the morning.
01:02And it is an illegitimate deprivation of freedom.
01:05Here it is already a crime that is configured, it is classified in another way.
01:08What happened to this woman is much more serious.
01:11Obviously, she has a trauma that they enter your house much bigger than the simple robberies on the street.
01:17A very complex crime.
01:20Imagine Guille, you are sleeping at home and you wake up at 4 in the morning.
01:24There are 5 criminals inside.
01:27These cases are reiterated.
01:30They caught her back.
01:33They don't escape.
01:35They put her back in.
01:37And they are not afraid that the police may come, that someone will call.
01:40They don't care about anything.
01:42Because the neighbor's alarm sounds.
01:45The neighbor's alarm is dissuasive.
01:48It is not an alert to 911, it is not interconnected.
01:51In some cases, yes, in others, no.
01:53If they put it in the municipality, yes.
01:55If they put it in the neighbors, no.
01:57But that does not guarantee that the police arrive in the span of 10 minutes.
02:01It lasted much longer.
02:03The only thing that can happen to you is that you are lucky that a patrolman is passing by and they hear it.
02:07But let's see.
02:09In the middle of this calvary, hours later, Rosa had to continue living her life.
02:13And we are in San Justo with Carlos Salerno.
02:15Carlos, how are you? Good morning.
02:18Guillermo, good morning.
02:19We are with the protagonist of this horror story.
02:21She is going to tell details.
02:23How they tried to get five criminals into her house with two support cars.
02:27We were talking about a community alarm.
02:29Yes, there is a community alarm.
02:31But I ask Darío Martínez to show behind him.
02:33That is the community alarm.
02:35And that is what you are going to see now.
02:37It is the security totem in front of the woman's house.
02:40That is, a totem with four cameras, a dome and a panic button.
02:45That is, in front of Rosa's house, there is this element of security.
02:50Now, Rosa, good morning.
02:52Good morning.
02:54I want you to invite me to your house to be able to tell the sequence.
02:57What do we not see?
02:59Because what we see is your desperate exit.
03:01I asked you how I met you.
03:03I say, why did you leave your house?
03:05They had won the roof.
03:07You told me, no, for the room.
03:09I ask Darío to go into the house so that with Rosa, come Rosa, come.
03:11Wait for Darío to come in and we go together.
03:12Let's go to your room so that people can understand what happened to you.
03:16Start telling me while we get to your room.
03:18I have a very safe house, with pins, with a double key, with a lock.
03:24You see, I slept and ...
03:30This is your room.
03:32This is my room.
03:34Today it was empty because Rosa had to move.
03:36This is your room and here you were sleeping with the window closed.
03:37With the window closed and I hear the noise of something, it seems to be a creak or something.
03:44And I feel the noise of the plastic window.
03:48And I see the face of the thief with a mountain pass, with gloves, grabbing, lifting the window and his face.
03:57I don't know if I saw him get inside, but I saw the face that was getting inside.
04:03And I jump, I go to the kitchen, I grab the key and ...
04:08Let's do the same.
04:10At that moment, I imagine, four in the morning.
04:12Let's go slowly, let's keep telling it.
04:14You jump desperate.
04:16Desperate.
04:18And then what do you do here?
04:20I don't know, I got the key, I grabbed the key, I activated the alarm in my house.
04:23Let's see, come on, do this.
04:25This is what Rosa did here, right?
04:27In his house.
04:29Come on, let's go slowly so Darío can accompany us.
04:30Did the thieves start the alarm?
04:32The thieves started the alarm because they couldn't stop it because this one has a key.
04:36And then they start it.
04:38The cables start and they start this.
04:40And I activate the alarm and I go out to the street.
04:44Well, so that Darío goes out to the street first, we show you how the sequence was so that people understand the video.
04:50I go out to the street, I open the door.
04:52Of course, here it was closed, here it was closed.
04:55I hear you, you want to open it, you want to open it.
04:57Yes, yes, there would be no nerves, you see.
05:00I open and I escape to the side.
05:03Come on, you run out.
05:05Here you had the criminal behind you, is there still one?
05:07No, no, there was no one, there was no one.
05:09They wanted to enter your house, they had already entered.
05:11And I don't know, I don't know, when they entered me, they were all inside.
05:15Here you hit Jorge, right?
05:17Here I hit this boy.
05:19And I start, Jorge, Jorge, and I start running over there and one comes from here and one from here and they grab me.
05:28Well, you are here, the guy comes, what is seen in the sequence, that the guy, look, let's face it, the guy comes,
05:34does he cover your mouth or does he grab you?
05:36No, no, no, he doesn't cover my mouth, they grabbed me by the arm because I fell.
05:39And he takes you.
05:41I was weak, you see.
05:43Now, what happened to your head there when the criminal grabs you and puts you in your house?
05:46I said, I'm Boleta, that's all I thought.
05:49I said, here they kill me, they shoot me, I don't know.
05:52And they put me inside, they put me inside and they sat me here.
05:58Now my house is empty, but I had the furniture and they sat me here.
06:05And one was nervous because the alarm was still ringing, because my neighbor called the police.
06:11And the other one threw everything from under the kitchen.
06:15The other one took my son's piece and broke the lid, took out the lid.
06:20And the other one, in the piece, they threw everything on the bed.
06:23In those minutes, all the drawers, they swept the drawer, swept everything.
06:30Everything, everything, this.
06:32Of course, what we are showing you, they broke everything.
06:34They broke everything from the piece, everything, everything.
06:36They didn't get to grab the dining room to stir because my neighbor alerted the police.
06:43Guillermo, Rosa is listening to you after this nightmare with details, right?
06:46Hello Rosa, how are you?
06:48Hello, good morning.
06:50How are you? This is Guillermo Andino.
06:52Let's see, we were following the route, but first I want to ask you, did you live alone there?
06:59I live alone, yes.
07:01I lived alone.
07:03Do you think it was a coincidence that they entered you, that they made you a previous intelligence, that they were watching you, because it is always easier to approach a person alone?
07:15No, because last year in January they did it to my neighbor, I was not there, I was on the coast.
07:21And they went up to my terrace, that's why I put more security, damn it.
07:25They did exactly the same, they went up to my terrace and they went up to the balcony.
07:33Your neighbor had a hard time because they wanted to set it on fire, right?
07:36My neighbor, if you want, I'll show you where they went up.
07:39Rosa?
07:41They went up there.
07:43Did you try to escape with them trying to enter or were they still outside and you were trapped?
07:52No, no, I tried to escape and I didn't see anyone outside.
07:56My intention was to run to the roundabout where my niece lives.
08:00And I said, I'm going, don't let them see me.
08:03But without thinking that there were cars here.
08:06Because I live in a corner, a car on Irigoyen.
08:09They entered through Lezica, through the side street.
08:12But I didn't think there was another support car there.
08:16That's why they saw me when they left.
08:18Look at the back of the house, Guillermo, the house is armored.
08:21Let's see.
08:23You can't get in here in any way.
08:25In no way, it has two keys and the keys are secure.
08:27Because they are keys that cannot be opened just like that.
08:30Now, Rosa.
08:32And on top of that, I'm going to tell you one thing.
08:35Since they entered my neighbor, next door, at night I put a chain with a lock.
08:42Here?
08:44Here, the chain that gives the bicycle.
08:46How much more do you have to do, Rosa?
08:49Do you have security?
08:51They open me with the chain and I hear noise.
08:53Of course, of course, of course.
08:55At night I took the job of putting a chain with a lock.
08:58Rosa, you ended up doing a job of intelligence.
09:03Of course, look, there's the door.
09:05No, no, we're in this, and I'll tell you more.
09:08This sector is every day.
09:11We had a meeting the other day because, according to what happened to me,
09:14the boy next door got angry and started calling the neighbors.
09:18We cut the street and the police officer came.
09:21But this sector is every day.
09:24Why, Rosa?
09:26At 12 noon, the boys from the school came out and stole the boy's truck in front of him.
09:32Armed, armed.
09:34Then the other block, my neighbor, next to my sister in front.
09:38Rosa.
09:40I don't know, I don't know what's going on here.
09:42Let me add something to you, Guille.
09:44There, when we see the crime map that Matanza has,
09:47what we see there close is what is the roundabout of San Justo, correct me Rosa if I'm not wrong,
09:52which are the escape routes that use Route 4 and Route 3.
09:56Of course, you can ...
09:58There they grab and escape to what is Isidro Casanova, the most ...
10:01All studied.
10:03From the south, let's say Rafael Castillo, which is where they have ...
10:05I forgot, I never thought about it.
10:07We are two blocks from Route 3, right?
10:09Of course.
10:10Let me add something to this story.
10:12Two blocks from Route 3, two blocks from Camino Cintura.
10:14Come, I want to show you something, if you allow me, for Guillermo.
10:16I know this ...
10:18They didn't strip her, she didn't move from her house just because of insecurity.
10:21It's not that they only strip her from her house and she goes somewhere else.
10:24Look, come, show me this.
10:26And tell me what it means to you.
10:28Tell me who made this house for you.
10:30My dad.
10:32My dad made this house for me.
10:34My dad.
10:36Because today he told me, I have to leave the house that my old man made for me.
10:38And you know that I think, I had that painting there,
10:42that I had it outside because I brought things from a vault that they are painting.
10:47And I put it there because I didn't want to leave my dad outside.
10:51And I put it there at the same time, dad.
10:53I say that maybe you saw that, he took care of me.
10:55Yes, sure.
10:57Rosa ...
10:59What does it mean to leave the house that your dad made for you?
11:01What do you think?
11:0374 years that I live here.
11:05No, no.
11:06I don't want to leave this neighborhood.
11:08But are you going to leave, Rosa?
11:10Not even in a hospital like that.
11:12In my mom's house.
11:14And I have to go.
11:16She left.
11:18I'm gone, I'm gone.
11:20I have to go for these shames.
11:22I have to go.
11:24You don't know the damage they cause.
11:26I mean, at some point you have to go because life itself, you know.
11:30I have to go with my son.
11:32But not like that.
11:34I look like a thief.
11:36I picked up the house in a week.
11:38I picked up the house in a week.
11:40I dismantled my house, which was beautiful.
11:43In a week, a Saturday, I loaded everything and left.
11:47Because I'm scared, I'm traumatized.
11:50And say you could leave, Rosa.
11:52Rosa, say you could leave.
11:54Because there are people who have no escape.
11:56They have no escape.
11:58I have a very good family.
12:00And my sister and my sisters don't leave.
12:02They don't leave.
12:04I left my sister.
12:06I packed my things.
12:08Then I'll see what I do.
12:10But I left.
12:12Now, Rosa, I saw the photos of your parents.
12:14I imagine the story that we all have.
12:16Working people.
12:18Who built in San Justo.
12:20You could enjoy that place.
12:22And that today they are winning the battle.
12:24These bastards.
12:26They must be very angry, right?
12:28The bastards, yes.
12:30The bastards.
12:32The people who grew up in a neighborhood.
12:34So, calm down.
12:36And they have to leave with all the pain in the world.
12:40But, well, some can.
12:42Others can't.
12:44But Rosa just told us that the house was made by her own father.
12:47The house of the old.
12:49When they say the house of the old.
12:51Well, here we have an example.
12:53And Rosa, unfortunately, today is fighting against the day to day.
12:57Describing a situation that tells us,
12:59here we are almost gifted.
13:00That's why Germán said,
13:02near the places of escape it's always easier.
13:04It's a war situation, Guille.
13:06Of course.
13:08Having to leave your own home is a war situation.
13:10I ask the authorities of someone to do something.
13:12Because my neighbors don't deserve it.
13:14The neighbors are old.
13:16Leaving is good people.
13:18They don't deserve to go through this.
13:20And you neither, Rosa.
13:22You neither.
13:24The neighbors, you don't know.
13:26The other day at the meeting, the support.
13:28We are fighting.
13:30I ask them to do something.
13:32I don't know.
13:34If you have a minute, Guille.
13:36I want to show you with her.
13:38Show you the room from the outside.
13:40Where did they get in and how did they do it?
13:42Come with me to show me.
13:44Because she is showing you the inside.
13:46She gets like this because she is nervous.
13:48Let's accompany her.
13:50Now you will see from the outside.
13:52You say, this house is impossible to enter.
13:54The guy who does logistics to enter a house.
13:56He doesn't choose this house.
13:58Because first you have the dome.
14:00The dome of the Cisca gives right.
14:02It hits right here where we are going to show you now.
14:05Which is this side of the house.
14:07Rosa slept here.
14:09Rosa slept in this room.
14:11So they climb this fence.
14:13They get inside the house.
14:15And inside the house they work for you.
14:17Inside?
14:19Here inside your house.
14:21They try to open you.
14:23Today you have those crosses, this reinforcement.
14:25These reinforcements were made later.
14:27Because if I stayed to sleep here, for more security.
14:28Because they say that you have that modality
14:30of sweeping the bars like this.
14:32But there is nothing.
14:34Then my nephew came with a blacksmith
14:36and they made those crosses for me.
14:38Bad punctures in the ceiling, bad door in the back.
14:40Bad alarm, bad double ...
14:42Every time I went in and out,
14:44I had six locks to open or close when I left.
14:46Six locks.
14:48And so you left your house.
14:50And so I left my house.
14:52Look Carlos, we see that in the corner
14:54neighbors appeared.
14:56They leave you very bad, they leave you very bad.
14:58That surely they are supporting Rosa.
15:00Because it is true, it leaves you very bad.
15:02Not only of the materials,
15:04we have been talking about this for a long time,
15:06but of the head, right?
15:08And the next day the neighbors made a move.
15:10Of course.
15:12Now Rosa, how many times have you seen on television
15:14the robbery and you say, this is not going to happen to me,
15:16this is not going to happen to me,
15:18until a day comes when it inevitably touches you.
15:20Of course, my neighbor had to lift the door
15:22that they entered through here, through my terrace.
15:24Behind the bookshop,
15:26back there you are going to see a black fence.
15:28They threatened to set it on fire,
15:30the five criminals.
15:32If he didn't give them the money,
15:34they would set it on fire.
15:36Rosa's neighbor.
15:38Wait, Rosa's sister is coming, come.
15:40Come, forgive me,
15:42we are right with Guillermo Andino and the team.
15:44Share a headset if Guille can ask him,
15:46because it's your younger sister, she doesn't want ...
15:48She is anguished because I ...
15:50Of course, put on this ear,
15:52so you are close to her.
15:54Hello, how are you?
15:56We are with Guillermo Andino and the whole team
15:58Hello, Beatriz.
16:00How do you solve this issue
16:02when Rosa was robbed and she wants to leave
16:05and you see that she is surrounded by criminals,
16:08but deep down you don't want to leave
16:10the place where you grew up, Beatriz.
16:13Look, we are four sisters,
16:16we built the house around my mother.
16:20Imagine that I have the house in front,
16:24always looking when she arrives,
16:26the time she arrives.
16:28For me, the truth is that I am very bad,
16:30very anguished,
16:32because I also want to leave.
16:34And I have a very comfortable house,
16:36I don't know where I'm going to go,
16:38but it's a matter of every day,
16:40it's every day.
16:42The dome that is in the corner,
16:44the truth is that I don't know what it is for,
16:46because no one comes.
16:48There is a middle school that they rob every day.
16:51There is a middle school here,
16:53they rob the children,
16:54the cell phones.
16:56We can't leave,
16:58it's no one's land.
17:00It's no one's land.
17:02Now, Beatriz,
17:04when they put the dome,
17:06you were told that you were going to be monitored
17:08by the municipality.
17:10No, we didn't know.
17:12No, no, no,
17:14no one gives a voice here.
17:16Sorry, but no one gives a voice.
17:19We are on the outskirts.
17:21No, no, no,
17:22no one gives a voice.
17:24No, no,
17:26that serves so that the police see it,
17:28but I don't know if there is a monitoring,
17:30I don't think so.
17:32No, no, yes,
17:34the domes of the municipalities
17:36are delivered directly to the prosecution
17:38when there is a complaint,
17:40or to the prosecution if they request it,
17:42but unfortunately people do not have access
17:44to the municipal domes,
17:46which would be very useful.
17:48What I ask, Beatriz,
17:50if these images go to an operating center
17:52that is the central area,
17:54and there you have 10 operators
17:56looking at the cameras,
17:58that if they see any strange situation,
18:00they give a warning to the police.
18:02It wouldn't be working, would it?
18:04And actually...
18:06Sorry, sorry,
18:08I don't know how,
18:10it's very well explained,
18:12but no one comes here.
18:14I have 15 robots at the door of my house
18:16with my camera,
18:18filmed,
18:20and no one comes here
18:22if we don't call the police.
18:24So what the domes do,
18:26I really don't know.
18:28Now, Beatriz, you call the police,
18:30and what happens?
18:32And you tell them,
18:34this happened to me,
18:36and then how does the story continue?
18:38Nothing, they don't have cell phones,
18:40I don't know,
18:42they can't,
18:44there are two cell phones
18:46for both sections,
18:48nothing,
18:50nothing,
18:52and then they go straight to Route 3,
18:54and straight to Camino del Cinturón,
18:56to Villa Palito.
18:58So it's a street of passage.
19:00Now, Beatriz,
19:02if you have to call the police
19:04with four cameras,
19:06a dome,
19:08a panic button,
19:10and a totem,
19:12when they're watching a live robbery,
19:14what's the point?
19:16What's the point?
19:18That's what we say,
19:20you press the button,
19:22and you get the idea
19:24of the operating centers
19:26that come from 2010 onwards,
19:28now they're practically overflowing.
19:30The problem is another one,
19:32the problem is the drug,
19:34the problem is the poverty,
19:36the problem is that they have to solve it from there.
19:39Yes, the problem is the drug,
19:41there are many here,
19:43the problem is that they are,
19:45we, the people,
19:47we are the least,
19:49and the thieves are the most,
19:50because in front of my house
19:52came six motorcycles
19:54with 12 of them.
19:56How do you do it?
19:58No, you can't.
20:00Against an army of criminals,
20:02you can't.
20:04As much as we go out,
20:06as much as we ring the neighbor's alarm,
20:08which is more,
20:10the neighbor's alarm,
20:12I asked for it in the municipality,
20:14they told me 90 days,
20:16and I told them that I was going to tie myself
20:18to the foot of Espinoza's desk
20:20in the police station,
20:22and the police officer who was there
20:24got it to me in three days.
20:26And what happened?
20:28Beatriz, the alarm goes off,
20:30and what happens next?
20:32The neighbor's alarm,
20:34and it happens that we take care of each other,
20:36because when the alarm goes off,
20:38we all go out.
20:40The other day the car couldn't get in,
20:42my son came from college,
20:44the car couldn't get in,
20:46there were two cars,
20:47and that day there was a robbery
20:49of a roundabout car,
20:51and another support car in the corner,
20:53I rang the alarm,
20:55I rang, I rang,
20:57until all the neighbors came out
20:59and we were able to get in the car.
21:01We can't live like this.
21:03No, for sure.
21:05We are very sorry.
21:07I have anguish.
21:09I feel it in your voice, Beatriz,
21:11in your sister's voice,
21:13because, I repeat,
21:15nobody wants to leave the place where you grew up,
21:17but apart from that,
21:19we are from here,
21:21half a block away,
21:23I made my house in front of my sister's,
21:25the four of us lived in La Manzana,
21:27now nobody lives there anymore.
21:29That was a long time ago.
21:31I also made a house with a lot of effort.
21:33Yes, yes, yes.
21:35Yes.
21:37We lived around my mother,
21:39who lived here.
21:41She is my childhood friend,
21:43and she knows.
21:45Please, please,
21:47I don't want to hear you
21:49telling me about money.
21:51You don't know anything.
21:53You have to come and ask me for something.
21:55It's the other way around,
21:57so that the city handles me,
21:59so that they come,
22:01we don't have a truck driver,
22:03we don't have a truck driver.
22:05We are drifted ten blocks from the municipality.
22:07I pay double for the person's shoes.
22:09We pay double,
22:11we pay a deposit more than capital.
22:13And you don't get to spend a day,
22:15you know why,
22:17send you the letter that they are going to send you to the wedding. I want to make that clear, we are
22:22drifting in everything, in everything, because I have to go out to sweep my door, I have to gather
22:30the garbage from the door, with the fear, now I'm even without cutting the paper, with the fear of half an hour,
22:38another of the things, we have a camera on all the pedestrian paths of San Justo for
22:45the fines, we don't have a camera that goes straight to the police, of course, of course, for the fines, yes,
22:51now, Camino de Cintura, Camino de Cintura, Camino de Cintura, with San Martín Avenue, Catamarca,
23:00between Catamarca and San Martín, which is a very important step, the car is about to turn around
23:06of the waves that there are, there is no light, but it is there to make you the fine, no, sure, look,
23:15when the objective is collectible, then they steal it because they do nothing, obviously,
23:21no, but when the objective is collectible, cameras everywhere, I don't say, I don't say this place, I say
23:26in general, in many places, no, in general, of course, but when you have to put a camera in the neighbors,
23:32you have to ask for it by mistake or say I chain myself in the office of the intendant, whatever,
23:38and I now told the commissioner if they don't give us a ball with all this that we are doing, I am going to
23:44chain myself somewhere, I tell you because the truth is that it is a anguish that I am living with my sister
23:51who is leaving and I am looking for apartments because I am also afraid, my son is leaving, of course,
23:59my son wants to go, we are going to go, I wonder what they would say, Rosa just showed us a beautiful photo
24:07of your parents, of your parents, it is seen that it was a party, I say what they would say, no, what would they say,
24:14and the truth you saw that we are families of Italians and I tell you that it was something impressive as well
24:24as I showed you the painting of my sister, I had just put it in that place and they sat her there and
24:31she fell a couple of days before the painting out of nowhere that she never fell to my sister,
24:40so she did not stay there and nothing happened to her and we imagine my father in the bathroom
24:49family of Italians I tell you that in two days we made the move between the whole family
24:55but the anguish of all my other sisters of my brother-in-law my nephews my children we are all
25:03all anguished well Beatriz Rosa Carlos we return if we have time to continue touring the neighborhood
25:10and we open our instagram for all the people who live in San Justo that surely we are already
25:15receiving dozens of messages there you have arroba andino and the news so that you can give your opinion because
25:23when we talk about insecurity, the messages are not only from here in San Justo but from many
25:29places in the urban area that are being literally attacked by the crime these
25:35criminals who apply the death penalty if you resist that is why in favor of what we saw a
25:40few minutes ago a man raised his arm and said let my wife and my daughter escape but in this
25:47case Rosa tries to escape and they put her back in her house this is what is happening in many
25:52places in the province of Buenos Aires