El empresario y político Roberto García Moritán enfrenta una denuncia por la supuesta contratación irregular de más de 300 empleados en el Ministerio de Desarrollo Económico. Además, se le acusa de deber más de 2 millones de pesos en patentes vehiculares. La visibilidad que le otorgó su relación con la figura pública Pampita ha intensificado el escrutinio sobre sus acciones, generando un gran revuelo mediático y judicial.
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00:00beyond the chats that are going to be known for the supposed reason,
00:05it escalated into another issue for Roberto García Moritán.
00:09Look, I read you the financial field.
00:11They denounce Roberto García Moritán for misappropriation of funds.
00:15It is for the supposed irregular hiring of more than 300 employees
00:19of the Ministry of Economic Development, where he is.
00:23In other words, it is already something worse in justice
00:27of what has to do with what we can publish with the title
00:32in a magazine of the show.
00:37Look, here the issue, I am with Moritán in a place
00:44that the operations go and come.
00:46He is being, let's say, the recipient of all the operations.
00:50Because today, for example, it was published in the morning
00:55that he owes more than two million pesos in patents for the car.
00:59Yes.
01:00Do you know?
01:01Do you count the ribs?
01:02Yes.
01:03Yes, he went to the bakery and took two more biscuits.
01:06So, let's see, who does not have a default and defeat
01:10in some of all the taxes that today they throw you,
01:13they shake your head.
01:14Who does not?
01:15What rains to me of defeats and things, taxes that I did not even know existed.
01:20Yes, yes.
01:21It is an impressive thing.
01:23Every day with the update, the indexation, everything you want to imagine.
01:28Fortune, what I am paying at the tax level.
01:31And it must be a bit what happens to people too.
01:34Totally.
01:35Moritán stopped the issue of the patent and now malversation.
01:38He is going to eat all the candies and all the chupetines
01:42that for a while, for the fact of having next to him
01:45a popular figure like Pampita, they all looked to the other side.
01:49But that also condemned him.
01:51The visibility and popularity that Pampita gave him,
01:54this generated, let's say, an issue of attention and expectation
01:58on the part of the outside world,
02:00that now that Pampita took away the blessing,
02:05now he was left alone, as he was before.
02:07Nothing more than now he has the visibility that remained of that marriage
02:11that for a while they kept.
02:13Let's see, I think Pampita, for me, I'm going to say an atrocity.
02:19I think that Pampita, infidelity, he banked it.
02:22If it existed.
02:24What was not banked was the issue of malversation.
02:27And he says it in one of his chats, where he says that
02:30when he saw in a program the one of Mariano Yese
02:34and the one of Martín Candalá,
02:36rebelling all the irregularities that Moritán suspected,
02:39he did not bank it.
02:41He said, so...
02:42Corruption was the limit, you say.
02:44I approach, let's say, a figure that was going to be questioned,
02:47and it is even complicated to have to go to declare at some point.
02:50You look, Guille, and Luis,
02:52that there is even a rumor that there would be a raid in the house of Pampita,
02:56where Moritán lived until recently, on this cause of malversation.
03:00Is this a correct version, Luis, or not?
03:05I don't know, I don't know.
03:07Here everything is correct and everything is incorrect.
03:09For example, it was stated that Pampita,
03:12in the middle of this personal, family and marital vendaval,
03:16had arranged with the production of Susana Jiménez to go to the program.
03:19She herself, in a chat, dismissed everything.
03:22That there had been...
03:23That there had been no approach to any TV producer,
03:26that she had never been negotiating with Susana.
03:28But, let's see, from the distance,
03:30where you do not fit any question,
03:32when you go to chat,
03:34it is because you want to make a press conference without questions.
03:37That is, you say what you want, no one can question you.
03:40Sure, sure.
03:41Now, Guille, Pampita is a PYME,
03:44it is a company, it is a man,
03:46and that, of course, associated with this...
03:48And he is taking care of his ass,
03:50if he is not going to come to take care of it.
03:52He is taking care of his own, he is taking care of his children,
03:55that he is going to mess it up, right?
03:57He is a great worker.
03:58Like Nata, you look, Nata became lucid again
04:00when he went to see the judge and said,
04:03this is like this, this is like that.
04:05If he didn't speak, he could have issued a statement,
04:07he didn't do it at the time.
04:09How many days was Nata hospitalized?
04:11He could have issued a statement,
04:13if he wanted this to end, he could have done it.
04:16Obviously, either he was not as lucid as he was when he went to the judge,
04:19or he didn't want to do it.
04:21What happens, of course, in the middle of this vendaval,
04:23where Pampita sells and a lot,
04:26it was even said that for Susana's case,
04:28he had asked for a TV show.
04:30Did you know that?
04:31Yes, yes, yes.
04:35But wait, do you realize that it was true?
04:38Or Pampita too?
04:39Pampita is not going to go out and deny everything.
04:42I'm going to ask Telefe,
04:44and Telefe will tell me if that situation did not exist.
04:47Pampita, how much did he ask?
04:51What fortune did Susana ask to go to the show?
04:53Pampita is denying it to you.
04:55If you go to ask Telefe, you will not be left out.
04:57Yes, yes, we offered it to her, but she didn't want to.
05:00Nobody is going to put their face.
05:02It may be, but Pampita has been offered many TV shows,
05:05and in recent years she has dedicated them to traveling
05:07and even productions abroad.
05:09It would have to be something recorded,
05:11not permanent or daily,
05:13because she has been receiving this since last year,
05:15and she has decided or not,
05:16and she has worked in Uruguay and other places, right Luis?
05:20Yes, just like that, just like that.
05:22But each one, this is a, this, let's see.
05:26Working many times is a trick game,
05:28where you may have the width of a sword,
05:30and you send the four or the retrick,
05:33you send it with the width of a sword,
05:35knowing that you have it, the rival does not know it,
05:37or you have a four of cups and you scream and you lie,
05:40but the rival goes to the deck,
05:43because he is afraid that you have the wide strong.
05:47This is the same,
05:49here they live playing the trick all the time,
05:52I want worth four, I want to be envious of the trick,
05:54understand?
05:55They scream at you, they scream at you, they scream at you,
05:57and many times they also induce you to have a posture
06:00in front of the media,
06:01so that they have another look
06:02with respect to your trajectory, your place, your program,
06:05or your family itself.
06:07Aha, you say that in the case of Moritán,
06:10there is a use for a political operation?
06:15Listen to me, you saw,
06:17we in the afternoon there with Masocco,
06:19we have a chronicler who is a pitbull,
06:22I call him the pitbull, Oliver.
06:24Yes, yes, Oliver.
06:25The other day we hooked him to Moritán
06:27in a restaurant near the canal,
06:29we sent the camera,
06:32in the restaurant he said that Moritán was not there,
06:34he was not there, he was not there,
06:35and I on the phone said,
06:37stay there because he is upstairs in the private room.
06:39Finally they invoked him at the exit.
06:42Old wolf in the tunnel.
06:44How? Oliver,
06:46he even asks you the caracu.
06:49That is Moritán.
06:51He began to realize that they were fooling him,
06:53at a certain moment.
06:56He has two very serious mistakes,
06:58first, if the guy was separated,
07:01he wanted to sell the image that he was still married,
07:04and then he shows him the alliance
07:07that he has of marriage with Pampita,
07:09and Pampita says that on the 20th they are separated.
07:13Yes, yes.
07:14First mistake.
07:15Second mistake,
07:16trying to take away the relevance,
07:20let's say, of his divorce with Pampita,
07:24he says that his projects in the ministry where he is
07:29were much more important than his family.
07:32This pissed Pampita off.
07:34What a fucking Japanese.
07:36How?
07:37On top of that,
07:38the work of my family is more important.
07:40Yes.
07:41And there the mess was made.
07:43Yes.
07:44There he went to Thailand,
07:46grabbed his daughter,
07:47said, bye Pinela,
07:48I'll be gone for a month,
07:49well, you fix everything.
07:51When I come back, I hope I fix you.
07:53Of course.
07:54There is a colleague who tells me
07:55that there were three conversations with Pampita,
07:57confirmed by a producer of Susana,
08:00in off.
08:02This is for the program to go,
08:04or so that later I have a program?
08:06I ask the source very close to the effect,
08:09but hey, now they are going to answer me.
08:12But I tell you, of course.
08:16Let's see, everything is worth it, right?
08:19Guillermo, you are Telefe.
08:22You call Pampita and say,
08:24come to have your program,
08:25come to have 10 pesos,
08:27come to Susana's program.
08:29It's the moment, right?
08:30You have to enhance a program that is being launched.
08:32Of course.
08:33I don't miss it.
08:34I am a producer,
08:35the first call is to Pampita.
08:37Yes, yes, yes, it's the moment, it's the moment.
08:41To go this Sunday, they tell me.
08:43That there were three,
08:44that there were conversations to go,
08:46but hey, now they are writing to me.
08:48But yes, it's obvious, it's the moment.
08:50Look at the rating that the son of Castro did.
08:54Cristian Castro.
08:56Cristian Castro with the couple and the puppy,
08:58which has already returned.
09:00The stuffed animal, let's say.
09:02The stuffed animal stayed,
09:03because the other one gave it away.
09:04Of course.
09:05On Friday, thanks,
09:07on Friday the possibility was lowered
09:09that Susana's program would go.
09:12And on Saturday she publishes the chats.
09:14Yes, I don't remember that.
09:16I don't remember.
09:17Pampita uploads the chats on Saturday.
09:19From August to September 20th.
09:22Yes, she leaves it to Secreto Verdadero.
09:24Of course.
09:25Because I didn't have Corita.
09:26Corita was Pampita's partner.
09:28She was with everything in detail.
09:29I said, take the program, it's yours.
09:31Corita, go ahead.
09:33Of course.
09:34What happens is that,
09:35let's see, what Álvaro just said,
09:37is not minor.
09:39Because one thing is a separation
09:41and another thing is a flattening
09:43because from this,
09:45there were issues
09:46where there is suspicion of corruption.
09:48That some say, no,
09:50what Pampita gave to Brown,
09:51well, you said it,
09:52beyond what could have been
09:54a case of infidelity or not,
09:55is the issue of politics
09:58and some spurious issues
10:00about which Moritan...
10:02But imagine the one behind the walls, Guillermo.
10:06You at home with your family,
10:08with your children, everything.
10:09They ring the bell, yes,
10:11yes, look, we are from the criminal justice,
10:13we come to fill the apartment.
10:15You are with your child drinking mate.
10:18The kids are going to ask you,
10:19Dad, what is this?
10:20Of course.
10:21Or Mom, what is this?
10:22Of course, of course, of course.
10:23And you go to live,
10:24a guy who gets into your bedroom
10:26and checks you under the bed,
10:27lifts the pillow,
10:28checks if the walls are hollow,
10:31if there is a safe,
10:32do you understand?
10:33Where are they going to look?
10:35Well, Esmeralda Mitre tells,
10:38precisely in all this pulsing that there is,
10:41that at a certain moment,
10:42in a search,
10:43they went in to look,
10:44to look, to look
10:45and they felt that the wall was hollow,
10:47precisely that it had to do
10:48with the inheritance and the will
10:51that Bartolo Mitre had left.
10:53And with a mass,
10:54they broke a wall
10:55and found that there was
10:56a strong box inside the wall.
10:59So imagine,
11:00you are with your family,
11:02they come in to break the wall,
11:03they come in to...
11:04And you see,
11:05you have the whole family there with you
11:07and what do you explain to your children?
11:09What do you explain to your partner?
11:11What do you explain to the people?
11:14Yes, no, no, of course.
11:15Of course.
11:16What I say is that when the issue
11:17takes judicial shortcuts,
11:19it is no longer just a news of the show.
11:22Of course.
11:23That's what I'm going for.
11:24And for the story of Pampita,
11:25she doesn't like that.
11:26And that's why it's so attractive.
11:27She doesn't feel comfortable.
11:28Look at the numbers,
11:29look at the numbers of the programs
11:30that took the subject Pampita to Moritán.
11:32Look at the measurement numbers.
11:34You realize what people choose to see and hear.
11:37And well,
11:38and according to what everyone tells you,
11:39it gives the feeling that Pampita,
11:43in reality,
11:44the two criteria that you mention,
11:46made an explosion to finally divorce.
11:51Because we,
11:52at the Martin Fierro Luis party,
11:54everyone saw Pampita García Moritán
11:56and it gave the feeling that everything was fine.
11:59Yes.
12:00According to the brand Pampita.
12:02But they are also staged.
12:04Tell me,
12:05what is the real civil status of Wanda at this moment?
12:09No idea.
12:11She is separated.
12:12She is with Icardi.
12:13She says she is separated.
12:15Her lawyer goes out to say that she divorced.
12:19And Icardi goes out to say that he is with Wanda.
12:23And you don't know.
12:25And in the middle,
12:26Wanda launches her program.
12:28So you don't know if she is fantasizing you,
12:30telling you,
12:31or if it really is what happens.
12:33Because then she appears on the night of Buenos Aires.
12:38She appears in nightclubs,
12:41with candelabras,
12:42they go in the same car.
12:44And they are telling you that they are separated
12:46and at the same time they are dating.
12:48So, who do you believe?
12:50Well, here it is defined.
12:52Here, yes, there is already a separation
12:53because she herself already manifests it
12:55by putting a date,
12:56September 20 or 21,
12:57with the chats
12:58and what was the day-to-day
12:59and her relationship, right?
13:00Beyond what happened,
13:01that the Martín Ferros were together.
13:02I believe the same,
13:03but let's wait.
13:05Yes.
13:06Let's see.
13:07What they tell me is
13:10that Moritán raised his income
13:12to the head of government,
13:13we show this,
13:14after a few days without going,
13:15but that no one from Jorge Macri's cabinet
13:17wants to respond
13:18or support his continuity.
13:21In fact, they say
13:22they had given Roberto a license.
13:26That's what they say.
13:28And well,
13:29in the middle of politics,
13:30in the middle of the operation
13:31and in the middle of the truths, right?
13:34Sure.
13:35She showed up without the ring,
13:36what Luis was saying,
13:38that Moritán had the ring.
13:40She was at a couple of events.
13:41One was the birthday
13:42of one of her best friends,
13:43Luciana.
13:44Sure,
13:45I would have to go to the government
13:46and ask to see the ring.
13:47Let me see
13:48if we take pictures
13:49to see what finger shows.
13:51Sure.
13:52There is a photo
13:53that Melina sends me
13:54of Donar Online,
13:55which is the program, right?
13:59Guys,
14:00there is Pampita
14:01with pictures of the NGO
14:02participating in some events.
14:04Associating.
14:05Associating with the NGO
14:06that has been for a long time.
14:07Which also shows you
14:08that Carolina,
14:09Pampita Ordóñez,
14:10supported a lot
14:11all the political movement
14:12of Roberto.
14:14She was also very proud
14:15of when he was a candidate
14:16for legislator
14:17of his political entrance.
14:18Fundamental.
14:19Yes, yes, yes.
14:20She was very happy.
14:22Fundamental, Pampita.
14:23What for?
14:24To have visibility.
14:25What does a politician want
14:26when no one knows him?
14:27Yes.
14:28To have visibility.
14:29Guillermo,
14:30I have to go
14:31for the celebration
14:32of the 80th anniversary
14:33of Lanús,
14:34of my neighborhood,
14:35and I have to go to work.
14:36Luis,
14:37hug,
14:38thank you.
14:39Greetings
14:40to all the dear people
14:41of Lanús.
14:42And a pleasure.
14:43Bye.
14:44Bye, bye, bye.
14:45See you later.
14:46I don't want to forget
14:47the medal.
14:48Say something.
14:49We start with Luis
14:50talking about
14:51what happened to him
14:52on the weekend
14:53because he took a lot of risks
14:54going from a visitor
14:55to JJ Urquiza.
14:56And that is a pending doubt.
14:57We are singers
14:58in the world,
14:59but that happens
15:00in our daily life.
15:01Exactly.
15:02But going back
15:03to the subject
15:04of the complaint
15:05about García Moritán,
15:06we are calling him
15:07to see if he wants
15:08to talk
15:09or say something
15:10about it.
15:11We said
15:12that the show
15:13is the show.
15:14The derivation
15:15from where this
15:16comes from
15:17is precisely
15:18the notoriety
15:19that García Moritán
15:20takes,
15:22and those who
15:23take advantage
15:24of it
15:25to take advantage
15:26of everything.
15:27That's why we say
15:28that politics is mixed
15:29here.
15:30We don't know.
15:31What we do know
15:32is that politics,
15:33as our grandfathers
15:34used to say,
15:35is sometimes dirty.
15:36She has been through
15:37many situations,
15:38but of course,
15:39a topic of this
15:40political complaint,
15:41for her image,
15:42her formation,
15:43is what she works with.
15:44I worked with her
15:45for four years.
15:46It's her daily life.
15:47With whom?
15:48With Pampita.
15:49Her daily life
15:50and how she prepares
15:51for her week.
15:52She is her own capital
15:53and her own PYME.
15:54Yes, yes.
15:55She is a great professional.
15:56A super great professional,
15:57organized,
15:58how she plans
15:59for the future
16:00and how she collaborates
16:01and has people
16:02around her
16:03that she respects
16:04permanently.
16:05Of course,
16:06one thing is a romance,
16:07a fight,
16:08and another thing
16:09is when she gets involved
16:10in something
16:11that she clearly
16:12doesn't like.
16:13Did you work
16:14being in a relationship
16:15with Roberto,
16:16with García Moritán?
16:17The whole stage.
16:18From the moment
16:19of birth
16:20to those four years.
16:21Of course,
16:22because it's true
16:23what Luis says.
16:24Notoriety
16:25is given
16:26to García Moritán,
16:27who was a well-known
16:28name in the field
16:29of international relations,
16:30of diplomacy.
16:31Of course.
16:32She had Carlos
16:33in the province of Buenos Aires
16:34too.
16:35Of course.
16:36Roberto,
16:37well, of course.
16:38After that,
16:39publicly,
16:40because she was one
16:41of the most famous
16:42women in Argentina.
16:43No, sure, sure.
16:44Well,
16:45we'll see what happens
16:46because I was telling you,
16:47beyond the news,
16:48that here
16:49a situation
16:50would be complicated
16:51for one of the parties
16:52in terms of
16:53denunciations.
16:54Let's see,
16:55there are denunciations
16:56from one side
16:57and the other
16:58because afterwards
16:59they deny it.
17:00Some articles
17:01that say that
17:02in reality
17:03these 384 employees
17:04were already there,
17:05that he adds
17:06some more,
17:07but they are not so many.
17:08Well,
17:09back and forth.
17:10The best thing
17:11that can happen
17:12is that it is investigated.
17:13That is,
17:14rumor on one side,
17:15rumor on the other,
17:16that there is an investigation
17:17and that there is
17:18an investigation.
17:19Well,
17:20these are papers,
17:21information.
17:22Ten,
17:23fifteen,
17:24eight.
17:25And with that,
17:26you are killing
17:27the subject
17:28where they want
17:29to attack you.