The Graham Norton Show S32E01

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A first-time welcome to Hollywood great Demi Moore, starring in the critically acclaimed body horror The Substance; music superstar and actor Lady Gaga, playing Harley Quinn in Joker: Folie à Deux; Oscar-nominated Irishman Colin Farrell, taking the title role in new series The Penguin; and actor/film-maker Richard Ayoade, talking about his hilarious new book The Unfinished Harauld Hughes. Plus, live music from Jack Savoretti and Miles Kane, who perform Bada Bing, Bada Boom from Jack's album Miss Italia.

The Graham Norton Show Season 32 Episode 01 | The Graham Norton Show S32E01.

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00:00Hello! Thank you very much! Hello! Good evening, everybody! Yes, you are very welcome to the show!
00:13Yeah, like pumpkin spice latte, we're back for the autumn. And we've got a good'un for you.
00:18Yes, later, we'll have music right over there from Jack Savaretti and Miles Kane.
00:23Yeah, they'll be performing a track from Jack's latest album.
00:27But first, on my sofa tonight, since his BAFTA-winning role as Morris Moss in The I.T. Crowd,
00:33this actor, writer and director has continued to stare at the camera with his arms folded
00:37in the likes of Travelman, The Crystal Maze and as presenter of The BAFTAs.
00:42His latest book, The Unfinished Harold Hughes, has been described as Nabokov meets Spinal Tap.
00:49It's also very funny, like its author, Richard Ayoade!
00:54There he is!
01:03This Irish superstar has played opposite so many acting greats.
01:07Tom Cruise, Al Pacino, Nicole Kidman and my personal favourite, Jenny the donkey.
01:12That was in the banshees of In A Sharon, which last year won him a richly deserved first Oscar nomination.
01:19Now he's unrecognisable and brilliant as supervillain-turned-crime-boss The Penguin.
01:26Please welcome the great Colin Farrell!
01:41She burst onto the scene as part of the 80s Hollywood Brat Pack,
01:45going on to become one of the biggest film stars in the world
01:48in hits like Indecent Proposal, A Few Good Men, G.I. Jane and the iconic Ghost.
01:54Now, she is giving an extraordinary performance as Elizabeth Sparkle
01:58in the body horror comedy The Substance, which critics are saying is...
02:03Ooh, I think they like it!
02:05It's a pleasure to welcome for the first time, Demi Moore!
02:10Hey!
02:12It's so nice to see you.
02:14Meet the boys.
02:20And she's a pop superstar, an actor, a fashion icon,
02:25who's won 13 Grammys, two Golden Globes, a BAFTA and an Oscar
02:29for Best Original Song in A Star Is Born.
02:32Now, she's striking up a bad romance as Harley Quinn
02:36in Joker, Folly Adore.
02:38It is a warm welcome back to the one and only Lady Gaga!
02:42CHEERING
02:48It's so good. It's so nice to see you.
02:50Nice to see you.
02:56I know.
02:58I know.
03:00I know.
03:02They're pleased.
03:04They're pleased.
03:06Sometimes there's buyer's remorse, but not tonight.
03:08They're happy, they're happy.
03:10So, welcome back to Richard, Colin and Lady Gaga,
03:12but a first-time welcome to Demi.
03:14Yes, thank you. So happy to be here.
03:16I feel like I've finally made it.
03:18Yeah, right, this is it.
03:20Now, you have been travelling all over the world promoting The Substance,
03:24but you haven't been alone.
03:26You've been upstaged at every turn.
03:29Yes, I have a significant other.
03:31Yes. A special significant other.
03:33I've got a picture. There.
03:35This is... What's...?
03:37Wadley made it.
03:39It's Pilaf the Little Mouse.
03:41Pilaf the Little Mouse.
03:43And is it a male mouse or a female mouse?
03:45It's a female. But here's the thing...
03:47I want a selfie with it.
03:49Oh, and it is photogenic.
03:51Pilaf is very photogenic, because it's done a cover shoot.
03:53Yes. I knew that she had really moved into a whole new category
03:57when my publicist got a call just for Pilaf to be on the cover of Dogue.
04:01Dogue?
04:03Dogue is there really a dog?
04:05Yeah. For real. It's Vogue for Dogs.
04:07There it is. I got that part.
04:11That's amazing.
04:13That's amazing.
04:15Have you got that framed in your house? You must.
04:17Not yet, but I plan to.
04:19And that's the size the dog actually is.
04:21Honestly, why did you leave her out in the snow?
04:23LAUGHTER
04:25Pilaf isn't on set yet.
04:27No, but she is here.
04:29Shall I?
04:31We ought to, yeah.
04:33APPLAUSE
04:35Oh, jeez.
04:37Can we mic the dog?
04:39To hear her heartbeat.
04:41Oh, my, oh, my, oh, my, oh, my!
04:43Oh, my God.
04:45Hi, hi, hi.
04:47Oh, you're so good.
04:49Oh, she's so weird.
04:51This is...
04:53Do you have treats in your pocket?
04:55No, no. She's just an equal opportunity receiver.
04:57Now, does Pilaf understand this is television,
04:59so she ought to piss?
05:01And that would go viral for us.
05:03I don't want to touch Pilaf.
05:05I had a feel backstage.
05:07Yes, you had a feel backstage.
05:09Oh, I'm afraid I'm going to hurt her.
05:11I know. She's so fragile.
05:13Oh, my God, she's so little and weird.
05:15She's a scene stealer.
05:17Look at the tongue. The tongue is amazing.
05:19And right here.
05:21How old is Pilaf?
05:23She's so cute.
05:25How old is Pilaf?
05:27Pilaf will be four in November.
05:29Wow.
05:31I don't mean this rudely, but looks older.
05:33LAUGHTER
05:35She had one flaw, which is she didn't have a full set of teeth,
05:37and she had to lose some,
05:39hence why the tongue does not stay in.
05:41Oh, no way.
05:43Right, OK.
05:45She's perfect.
05:47If I ever get one, I'm having the teeth pulled straight away.
05:49So cute.
05:51Shall we let Pilaf relax?
05:53Here we go. I'll take her back here.
05:55There she goes. Pilaf, everybody.
05:57APPLAUSE
06:03I love that I have this level of couch,
06:05but a very small dog.
06:07Shit's all over everything.
06:09Now, Richard, you were here tonight as an author.
06:13But you are also a director,
06:15a director of films.
06:17Have you worked with any of the people on the sofa?
06:19I have not.
06:21I have sent Colin a script.
06:23Which I had told you I was yet to...
06:25Yeah. No, I...
06:27No, the good thing is, because we were both on this,
06:29you had to read it. Totally.
06:31Is it a no yet? It's a gospel.
06:33You had to read it, otherwise it could have been awkward,
06:35and obviously... That's the gospel.
06:37I'm pretty handy. I said to him...
06:39And it could have ended in some fisticuffs.
06:41Yes, I said to him.
06:43Marcus of Queensbury Rules, of course.
06:45He's agreed to do it for no money,
06:47which is very nice.
06:49That's Colin. That is Colin.
06:51Any time you want, I'm there.
06:53I will not take a penny.
06:55So, Colin's words, not mine.
06:59All right, we're going to start with Lady Gaga's new movie,
07:01Joker.
07:03Fully adored. I know.
07:05It opens in cinemas on the 4th of October,
07:07and this is the sequel to Joker,
07:09starring Joaquin Phoenix.
07:11And you play Harley Quinn,
07:13but what version of Harley Quinn is this?
07:15What can you tell us about her?
07:17So, I play Lee Quinzel.
07:19That's my version of Harley Quinn.
07:21And, you know,
07:23this movie, this story,
07:25really centres around Arthur Fleck.
07:27If you saw the first film, you know him.
07:29In the first film, Todd really slowed down
07:31to take a look at Arthur Fleck's life,
07:33somebody that maybe would get pushed aside
07:35or passed by on the street,
07:37and you really got to see who he was
07:39and what made him Joker.
07:41So, in this film, he meets Lee,
07:43my character, and they fall in love.
07:45But she's, like, very different than the Harley Quinn
07:47that everybody has known before.
07:49I tried to root her in the reality of this film
07:53and create Arthur's match.
07:55Who would be the person that he would love
07:57if he stopped for a moment to talk to her?
08:00What would be the storm inside of her
08:03that would make her catch his eye?
08:05So, that's my Lee.
08:07She's got a little bit of a hurricane inside her,
08:10or, like, the ground is shaking all the time,
08:13or a bomb might go off in her, you know?
08:15Elizabeth, we've got a clip.
08:16This is you as Harley visiting the Joker,
08:18played by Joaquin Phoenix, in the asylum.
08:21This is going to be good for us.
08:23Now I can be at your trial every day.
08:25I can see you every day until you get out.
08:31We're going to build a mountain.
08:38I want to see the real you.
08:42I want to see the real you.
09:05It's just us now.
09:08Whoo!
09:09Whoo!
09:21Here's the thing.
09:22That scene where you're putting the mask on the Joker,
09:24and I heard you talking about this,
09:26that in ways you really relate to that idea of wearing a mask
09:30and how that can help you in your life.
09:32Well, I don't know if it helped me.
09:35You know, yeah, I've always kind of had a relationship
09:38with dual identities through my music
09:40and creating characters on stage,
09:42which was maybe unconventional to some people,
09:45where, you know, playing an actor in a film
09:47makes a lot of sense,
09:48but everybody wants to kind of see you be yourself on stage,
09:51and I am myself on stage.
09:52I'm just also something else.
09:54And so I was really interested in making this film
09:58because Arthur is this, like, kind of incredibly unique person
10:02who has this, like, affliction that he suffers with,
10:06and the way that people treat him where he lives, in Gotham,
10:10Joker is kind of like a symptom of his conditions,
10:13and I just thought that that was a really beautiful way
10:17to tell the story of Joker,
10:18and I thought it was also beautiful for a love story
10:21who would be, like, the complex woman
10:23that would love him completely,
10:25who would, to me, love Joker and love Arthur too.
10:29And Lady Gaga, as one would hope, music in Follyder,
10:33but am I right in thinking that when this goes out
10:35on Friday night, by the time that happens,
10:38there will be a new Lady Gaga record in the world?
10:41Yeah.
10:42So I was really inspired by my character, Lee,
10:45and all the music in the movie,
10:46so I decided to make my own album called Harlequin,
10:49inspired by her,
10:51and it's all original productions that I did
10:56to basically, like, define her without defining her at all.
11:01There's a lot of jazz influence,
11:03and I take you through, like,
11:04so many different genres on the record.
11:06To me, Harley, like, cannot be pinned down.
11:09She's a woman that can't be defined,
11:10so I was sort of saying, you know,
11:12I'll be jazz when I want to be jazz,
11:14and I'll be funk when I want to be funk,
11:15and then I'll be soul, and then I'll be blues,
11:17and then I'll be church,
11:18and I'll be whatever I want to be
11:20whenever I want to be it,
11:21because I think women, you know,
11:23we want to feel that way sometimes.
11:24Yeah.
11:25And the truth is we aren't any one thing.
11:31We're a lot of things.
11:32Yes, and we can be all those things at the same time.
11:35Exactly, yeah.
11:36The album is called Harlequin,
11:38and I think we've got the cover art there.
11:40Yeah.
11:41CHEERING
11:43But also, I was lucky enough to hear the album.
11:45It is so, because it's not the soundtrack,
11:48it's such a joyful album.
11:52She's super happy.
11:53I mean, over the moon.
11:56But it is a really, it's a joyous thing
11:58to hear you sing these standards.
11:59Yeah, it's actually, thank you.
12:00I think it's a great record for, like,
12:02if you're having dinner with your friends
12:05and one of your crazy holiday parties.
12:07It's meant to be music to have fun to,
12:10but, yeah, it's not the soundtrack.
12:12It's a companion piece to the movie.
12:14And now, talking of singing,
12:16we saw you at the Paris Olympics.
12:18Yes, that was me.
12:19Yeah, that was you.
12:20CHEERING
12:23I mean, you know, as a superstar,
12:25do you go, really, in the rain, I'm doing this?
12:28Because it was properly raining.
12:29It was properly raining, but the most crazy thing
12:32was that they insisted that the staircase be carpeted
12:35for the performance and it was raining,
12:37so it was wet carpet in my underwear.
12:40So, you know, if anyone wants to perform on TV
12:44in their underwear on a wet carpet, call me.
12:47OK.
12:49But now, it was the Paris Olympics,
12:51but there was an extra ring.
12:54Oh!
12:56I see what you did, I see what you did.
12:58It was good.
12:59No, because you got engaged.
13:00I did, yeah.
13:01Did you get engaged at the Olympics?
13:03CHEERING
13:04I actually, yeah.
13:05OK, that's last night.
13:07That's last night.
13:08We got engaged, actually, on April 1st.
13:12Actually, I thought he was joking.
13:14He was not.
13:16But, yeah, it was really nice,
13:18and then we went to Paris for the Olympics,
13:21and the Prime Minister actually had his people filming us
13:26while they were, like, saying hello,
13:28and they caught me saying,
13:29oh, this is my fiancée, and I was trying to keep it hidden,
13:32but then, you know, they announced it to everyone.
13:34But that was kind of fun.
13:36I like that you get the full Team USA thing
13:39by going to the Olympics.
13:40It's good.
13:41It was great.
13:42The women were awesome.
13:43CHEERING
13:44They were awesome.
13:46And very quickly, Lady Gaga, I must say,
13:48in Joke of Oliver, obviously, you're marvellous, Joaquin Phoenix,
13:52but we must mention some of the other cast,
13:55a close friend of Colin's, Brendan Gleeson.
13:57Oh, yeah.
13:58Yeah, he's in it as well.
13:59I loved working with Brendan.
14:00Oh, me too.
14:01He's so sweet, really, really cool guy.
14:03And did you know him when this happened?
14:05Look at that!
14:07OK, you know, I was doing, like, you know,
14:09like that sweet thing when you see someone,
14:11you go, oh, hi, you know, and then that happened.
14:13LAUGHTER
14:16He saw you puckering up and he went, OK.
14:18His eyes were wide open.
14:20He wants to remember this moment.
14:22He knows exactly what he was doing, because his eyes,
14:24they're like that.
14:25Not to mention his right hand.
14:27Oh, yes.
14:28It's just like pre-tango.
14:30Andy, you found yourself in a similar clinch.
14:33Go on, then.
14:34LAUGHTER
14:36My eyes are closed because I'm in heaven.
14:40And that's where I got Covid.
14:42He's OK.
14:43Really, fact.
14:45Brendan, the super spreader.
14:47Yes.
14:48Hand on the back of the head.
14:49Hand on the back of the head.
14:51Forget it, son.
14:52LAUGHTER
14:53I want it all in there, yeah.
14:55And I was in Nando's as well.
14:57LAUGHTER
14:59But it is a terrific cast-up, just a brilliant movie.
15:02Joker, folie a deux, is out on the 4th of October.
15:05Yeah, OK.
15:07CHEERING
15:12All right, we're moving on to Demi Moore's
15:14extraordinary new film, The Substance.
15:17It is out now, and if you haven't seen it,
15:20it has to be seen to be believed.
15:23But I highly recommend don't see it alone.
15:26I saw it alone.
15:27I know.
15:29But, you know, you have someone...
15:31I still enjoyed it.
15:32OK.
15:33It's just good to have someone with you to witness it,
15:35just so that you can go, oh, my God.
15:37It's just a bonkers film, a brilliantly bonkers film.
15:40How are you describing it to people?
15:42It's actually almost impossible to fully describe.
15:46And you don't want to give it all away.
15:48The general kind of gist is, one, it's dealing with ageing.
15:53And, you know, I play a woman who is being fired
15:57from her own show, an actress who has a fitness show
16:00because she's ageing out.
16:02And in this kind of gets, you know,
16:04sees her face being ripped down from a poster of her campaign.
16:08So everything, she's at the lowest point of her life
16:11and is offered a substance for a newer, better, younger her.
16:16But unbeknownst to her, that is not me that transforms,
16:20it's another entity that comes out of me.
16:23It's like a young clone.
16:24We share consciousness.
16:26Can you get... Where can I get it?
16:28LAUGHTER
16:30You're the problem. I've got some in the back.
16:33I'm happy to share.
16:35So that's like the long...
16:37It's very difficult to fully describe.
16:39But it is interesting, because you kind of think,
16:41we're used to this idea of a potion that can make you young again.
16:45Elizabeth Sparkle, in her 50s,
16:47exists alongside the young Elizabeth Sparkle.
16:49Yes.
16:50Played by Margaret Qualley. Yes.
16:52Did you cast her?
16:54Were you responsible for casting her as the young you?
16:56No, I think our director, Corley, was looking for a right match,
16:59but in fact not wanting us to look identical.
17:03So she chose a taller, blue-eyed version of me.
17:07Which I can say, I always wanted blue eyes.
17:09Oh, there you go! I wanted longer legs.
17:13But, you know, what's interesting in the film,
17:15just to kind of give in more seriousness,
17:17is that, you know, that idea of the pursuit of perfection
17:21leading us down a road where we then only decay further away
17:26from being able to embrace the beauty of all that we are
17:29in the present moment.
17:31Yeah. And I suppose we ought to flag up
17:33there is a proper full-on body horror.
17:35I mean, there is blood. Yes. Blood.
17:38There's about 30 gallons.
17:41I'm not exaggerating. No, no, for real.
17:43There is a lot of blood in this film.
17:45Where did they keep the blood on set?
17:47It was in a fire.
17:51She used it with a fire hose.
17:53Really? See, aren't you glad I asked?
17:55Yes! You haven't gotten to that scene yet.
17:57You haven't gotten to the scene.
17:59But, yeah, I think it's dealing with some really interesting
18:03subject matter, but the best way I can sum it up is
18:06it's kind of like the picture of Dorian Gray
18:09meets Death Becomes Her and a Jane Fonda workout.
18:13I mean, that is the movie. That is the movie.
18:15It sums it up.
18:16And your performance is so intense and visceral.
18:19We've got a clip here. Set it up for us.
18:22I think you're going on a date.
18:24I'm just getting ready for a regular date.
18:29So this is a moment where she has, like, an offer
18:33to ultimately allow her to almost escape
18:37a self-imposed prison of her own isolation.
18:42And she's been asked out,
18:44and it's a moment of true compare and despair where,
18:48you know, which we've all had,
18:50where you go, you're looking, let me just try to fix this.
18:53No, let me change that.
18:54And the more we try to make it better, we just make it worse.
18:58Here it is.
19:08DRAMATIC MUSIC
19:26Wow. So intense.
19:30I love both of our sequences.
19:32It's all about lipstick tonight.
19:34Oh, yeah.
19:36You must be so proud of this movie.
19:38I think I'm very...
19:40I'm really moved by the fact that it actually is...
19:43has the potential of laying a few pavers down
19:46for a cultural shift.
19:48I don't think any one thing creates that shift,
19:50but I think the way in which we look at ourselves,
19:53the way in which we hold ourselves,
19:55it's important to find the love and the value
19:58and appreciation for who we are as we are
20:01in whatever moment we're in,
20:03and I hope that this can kind of help move that needle.
20:06I think it's really interesting, that idea of, you know,
20:08body image and being vulnerable,
20:10it kind of goes back to that incredible iconic moment
20:14when you were on the cover of Vanity Fair.
20:17Were you seven months, seven months pregnant?
20:19She was seven and a half months pregnant.
20:21Wow. I mean, that has become such a kind of...
20:23It was a real moment. I mean, the fuss at the time.
20:26Big iconic moment. Yeah.
20:27And was this your idea?
20:29Well, this wasn't...
20:30Actually, we were shooting this at the end of the shoot just for me.
20:33It wasn't for the magazine.
20:35And I said at that moment,
20:36why wouldn't it be great if they, you know,
20:39could use this for the cover?
20:41And then two weeks later, Annie Leibovitz called and said,
20:43hey, what do you think?
20:45And I was like, amazing.
20:47I mean, I didn't know it would have such an impact.
20:50And it's been so replicated.
20:52I mean, the thing is, you know,
20:54it's not like I was the first person,
20:56but it's the idea that we've lived in times
20:59where once you were that big pregnant,
21:01you weren't supposed to remind anybody that you'd ever had sex.
21:05But literally. You reminded everyone.
21:07I did. Yes.
21:09And who's in there? Is that Scout in there? That's Scout.
21:11And how old was Scout when Scout figured out,
21:13oh, I'm on the cover of Vanity Fair?
21:15Oh, they saw it right away. They loved it.
21:17It's part of, like, their...
21:18I mean, the reason I did it was for them, not even for me.
21:20Yeah. It's for each of them.
21:22I did it with Annie, with all three of my children.
21:25And I heard you talking about reading the script for The Substance,
21:29and it said it reminded you of reading the script for Ghost.
21:33Yeah, because there's something about, you know,
21:36when I read The Substance, I thought,
21:39wow, this could be really amazing.
21:42Or it could be a fucking disaster.
21:44And so, of course, I had to say yes.
21:46And I feel like Ghost was very similar.
21:48It's like, OK, we're going to do a comedy, a thriller and a romance.
21:53OK. But I think when we push ourselves out of our comfort zone,
21:56when we do things that make us a little afraid,
21:58it always makes us a little better.
22:00Even if it fails.
22:01And wasn't there a moment when, like, the reviews came out for Ghost,
22:04you kind of thought, uh-oh, it's not going well?
22:07The reviews were disastrous. Yeah. For Ghost.
22:10And then people loved it, yeah.
22:12That makes no sense.
22:13They were awful. No sense.
22:15They were awful. Because it'll survive.
22:17Decades, it'll keep going. Forever.
22:19But it was... They were awful.
22:21And I thought, wow, I can't trust myself,
22:23because I actually thought I saw something that was good.
22:25And I love that you are a proper collector.
22:27You've kept the pottery you made.
22:29OK, let's not go wild.
22:31My piece of pottery looks like a kindergartner.
22:34I mean, literally. My pots are pitiful, but I do...
22:37Well, he kept coming up behind you, so...
22:40I mean, you're right.
22:42Yes, yes, very true.
22:44You've got to concentrate. There's a tragic way to hugging you.
22:47Yes, you're right. That's it making it difficult.
22:50That wasn't your fault. Good point. Thank you.
22:52I appreciate that. Thank you. Yeah.
22:54Are they on display in your house?
22:56I have them tucked away. OK.
22:58Do you always save things from movies?
23:00Like, did you keep anything from The Substance?
23:02I do. I have what...
23:04When people see the film, you'll see the drug that we're given
23:07is this, you know, kind of fluorescent green-yellow substance,
23:11and it says The Activator on it, and I have one of those.
23:14Fantastic. Well, listen, it's terrific.
23:16I hope people flock to the cinema to see it.
23:18The Substance, it's out in cinemas now.
23:24OK, we're moving on.
23:26Colin Farrell... Oh, sorry, you're still talking.
23:28No, no, we're still just talking. OK, OK.
23:30Right, Colin Farrell is The Penguin.
23:32Critically acclaimed, already a huge viewing hit.
23:35The first episode is already out there,
23:37and new episodes drop on Monday on Sky and Now.
23:41Now, we first saw he was The Penguin in the movie,
23:44the Robert Pattinson movie,
23:46so it begins, is it a week after the end of the first movie?
23:49Yes, at the end of the first film, the Batman film,
23:52the Riddler exploded the city walls,
23:54that keeps the water back, and the place is flooded,
23:57and it's about a week after that.
23:59Carmine Falcone has been shot, who's played by John Turturro,
24:02and he was kind of the main criminal underlord in Gotham,
24:06so there's a power vacuum that people are struggling to fill,
24:09and Oz, who I play at The Penguin,
24:11is someone who always has felt less than
24:13and felt outside of the experience that he felt he should be living in.
24:16He's somewhat crippled, he's got a club foot,
24:19a pretty severe club foot on his right foot.
24:22A lot of tragedy in his background,
24:24which the show, because it has eight hours, is allowed to get into,
24:27and it's his rise, his ascension,
24:29to power through greed and avarice and brutality.
24:32I've watched episode one, it's just phenomenal.
24:34Have you guys seen it yet? I have. It's incredible.
24:37Yeah, it really is. I mean, the whole world is incredible.
24:40What you went through to be able to transform is incredible.
24:43I mean... It's extraordinary.
24:45The make-up team, I have to shout out to a gentleman,
24:48I use the term loosely, by the name of Mike Marino,
24:51who created... Thank you.
24:53LAUGHTER
24:54Who created the... Take it where I can.
24:56Who created the whole thing. It was Mike's...
24:58Cos I know that some people have said,
25:00why would they cast you and then just bury you?
25:02Why wouldn't they get an actor that, you know,
25:04doing somebody out of a job?
25:06But the thing was...
25:08Do you think maybe it's because they want to know
25:10that it's somebody attractive under there?
25:12LAUGHTER
25:15I mean, I'm just saying.
25:17What are you trying to say?
25:19What are you trying to say?
25:21No, I honestly think it was just... Thank you.
25:24It was Mike Marino's genius as an artist,
25:27so it was kind of like the creation of the character
25:29was a collective of a load of people,
25:31people that designed the body.
25:33That was totally his imagination. Yeah.
25:36The make-up, every day, did you ever panic?
25:38Panic, like panic attacky panic? Yeah, exactly.
25:40No, not in make-up, just as myself.
25:42LAUGHTER
25:44But I did, like...
25:46You know the way it's hard to say it's hard,
25:48because you know what hard life actually is,
25:50and we do what we do.
25:52But I will say that by the end of it, I was a bit miserable.
25:55Really? Yeah, it was kind of like,
25:57even when I remember my sister being on the set
25:59and going back to the trailer and saying to Claudine,
26:01my sister, am I being a dick on the set?
26:03She was like, no, and I said, OK, good, because I just was angry.
26:06I was just angry by the end of it, and I remember looking up Jim Carrey.
26:09Oh! Yeah!
26:10I remember hearing a story that Jim Carrey struggled
26:13when he was doing... The Grinch. Life, no.
26:15When he was doing... When he was doing... We all do.
26:17When he was doing The Grinch, yeah.
26:19And that he struggled so hard that Ron Howard,
26:21the director of The Grinch, spent a day in the make-up,
26:24just to see what it felt like, and I just...
26:26There should have been, like, a support group
26:28for people in prosthetics. Yeah.
26:30He got guys who... Oh, he did.
26:33He got Navy SEALs or FBI guys.
26:35Who undergoes torture to counsel him about how to get through it.
26:40To calm himself and how to work on his breath.
26:42So I never got to Jim Carrey's level in so many ways in life.
26:45Season two. So many ways in life.
26:47But I did struggle by the end of it, just in me own noggin,
26:49and the material was really dark as well.
26:51I'd never done anything like that.
26:53Was it as dark as Banshees? Yeah, darker.
26:55Because there was love in Banshees.
26:57You know, Banshees is kind of love unanswered.
26:59You know, it's the pain of that.
27:01And even though there's the mutilation... I love that movie.
27:03Thanks a million. Oddly, I do like to meditate to that movie.
27:06To Banshees? Twisted, twisted puppy.
27:09LAUGHTER
27:11I know. Do you really? I know, my man comes home and he's like,
27:14why?!
27:16No, I thought, what scene?
27:18I think it's actually just the tone of the film,
27:20and the scene.
27:22The scenery is beautiful, there's a certain whimsy to it,
27:25and the music, Carter Burwell, yeah.
27:27In terms of watching your performance in this,
27:29I mean, I was saying to you backstage, you do forget,
27:31in the first kind of 15 minutes, you keep going,
27:33wow, that's Colin Farrell, and then you kind of forget about it,
27:36and you're just watching a drama.
27:38When we are looking at this man, so, is any of that you?
27:42Well, that's me needing a bowel movement
27:44and realising that it takes... You can tell by the expression.
27:47And realising it takes two hours to get out of the bodysuit.
27:50But do they, can I ask, do they do your hands as well?
27:53My hands were the only thing that was me.
27:55It was a full bodysuit, it was three hours of make-up in the morning,
27:58and about 40 minutes to take it off.
28:00So we can see your eyes. How do you go to the bathroom?
28:03I'm just curious.
28:05I don't eat breakfast or lunch.
28:07I suppose it's the most civilised way to answer that.
28:09No, no, literally, because... But for a piss, yeah, yeah,
28:11cos I had to drink piles of water cos I was sweating crazy.
28:14So I just, you know, you need to have your sat-nav to find yourself.
28:18On top of it all, there's a zip and a button and a pad
28:22and a flap and a...
28:25I have very similar stuff as well.
28:28You know what I'm talking about. It's just for safety.
28:33And so the eyes are you, what about the mouth, are the teeth yours?
28:37The teeth, all but one.
28:39I have a gold tooth that was just a clip-on, yeah.
28:42It was so comprehensive, the whole thing.
28:44And to look at myself in the mirror, you know, in the trailer
28:47and see that staring back at me was very powerful.
28:50So you're in all the prosthetics,
28:52you know, you're looking out of this thing... Yeah.
28:54..onto this dark world, onto this violence.
28:56That's what it felt like, looking out in a different way. Yeah.
28:59So what was that like when you went home then?
29:01It was weird, it was funny to say looking out,
29:03because I was in a sauna one night in New York,
29:05and a public bathhouse, and a...
29:08Public bathhouse? Yeah, ologist.
29:10Don't ask, don't ask.
29:13It's called The Bathhouse, it's a lovely place.
29:16And I was there, I was there one night and a fella looked at me
29:19and it was after a long... And then he did.
29:22It was after a long day on The Penguin.
29:25And I looked back at him and I realised I was looking at him
29:28in the same way I felt my look during work.
29:32And I just... When you do it so long, it comes home with you.
29:35It should come home with you. If you love what you're doing,
29:37it's OK to bring your work home.
29:39You can't inflict it on those you love that you share a house with.
29:42But it's OK for it to come home a little bit, I think.
29:44But anyway, I looked at the guy and I realised I was looking as Oz looks.
29:47And it felt like that, and he just kind of went like that.
29:50I don't know if he thought I wanted to fight him or...
29:54And I never asked.
29:56But there was something kind of very powerful about the make-up man
29:59that it did take a hold of the mood.
30:01If you gave yourself over to it,
30:03and you talk about moments of purity in the work and stuff,
30:05you give yourself over to it and the writing's good.
30:08You know, it takes over. It's lovely.
30:10Your imagination comes online and that's it.
30:13Well, for people who haven't seen it, let's have a little glimpse.
30:15This is you as Oz Cobb meeting Sophia Falcone,
30:19played by Christine Melotti.
30:23Melotti? Did I say Melotti? That'll do.
30:25Yeah, here we go.
30:31Was that a yes or...?
30:33Sophia, please, join us.
30:35Oh, I didn't mean to interrupt.
30:41Oz, do you remember Carmine's daughter?
30:43Yeah.
30:45Sophia, I thought you were still at, uh...
30:50Arkham?
30:52Yeah.
30:54No.
30:56I've been rehabilitated.
30:59It's amazing.
31:01Wow, it's so strange.
31:03It's got another...
31:05New York accent.
31:07I was born in New York.
31:09You were from that part of the world.
31:11You nailed it.
31:12All right, cool.
31:13You nailed it. That was uncanny.
31:15That's one hell of a sauna, I've got to say.
31:17I lost that much weight.
31:19It's a good thing I didn't wear the suit in, I would have melted.
31:21And also, I love the link in the worlds,
31:23because Arkham, where Sophia's been,
31:25is where Joker and you are.
31:27Yeah, and it sounds like they exist.
31:29It's one big dysfunctional disaster.
31:31It sounds like they inhabit a similar space, the story.
31:34There's a lot of uncertainty in the lives and the psychology.
31:37I'm so excited to see your movie.
31:39I'm excited to see yours too. Big time.
31:41I'm a really big fan of your work,
31:43and, I mean, everybody here.
31:45Sure, thank you. I mean, honestly.
31:47It's true. I mean it.
31:49APPLAUSE
31:51Take it, take it. I mean it.
31:53Just to remind you all, Colin Farrell continues his journey
31:57as the Penguin on Sky and Now each Monday.
32:00That's the takeaway here.
32:02That's the takeaway.
32:04APPLAUSE
32:06I'm so glad you're here.
32:08There's a lot.
32:10Richard Ayoade has written a book, everybody.
32:12Yes, he has.
32:14APPLAUSE
32:16Now, now, bear with.
32:18So, this is called The Unfinished Harold Hughes.
32:21It's out on the 3rd of October.
32:23So, let's begin with who is Harold Hughes?
32:28Well, Harold Hughes is a hugely important playwright,
32:32British playwright, post-war.
32:34I stumbled across his work in a bookshop,
32:38and I saw that he looked very much like me,
32:40so I was hugely interested.
32:41This is a painting of Harold Hughes?
32:43This is a painting. He looks quite like me.
32:44He does look quite like you.
32:45He looks a lot like me.
32:46Clanny.
32:47Yeah, thank you.
32:48And it's like Picture of Dorian Gray.
32:49Yes, that's right.
32:50It's very similar.
32:51And so the book is sort of like a mock documentary
32:54about my journey to find Harold Hughes.
32:56Harold Hughes doesn't exist, I should make this clear.
32:59LAUGHTER
33:00This is so complicated.
33:02There's a lot of tension.
33:04And so the book is really about this kind of ridiculous character
33:08who stops writing,
33:10and there's a mystery as to why he stopped writing,
33:12and I'm trying to find out why he stopped writing.
33:15OK, but now, so here's the thing.
33:17So this is the journey of your documentary
33:20to solve the mystery of Harold Hughes...
33:22Yes, that's right.
33:23..who has written lots of screenplays, novels,
33:26poetries, all sorts of stuff.
33:28But those books exist.
33:30Yes.
33:31So you've also written all of Harold Hughes' screenplays.
33:35That's right, yes.
33:36And you've written...
33:37This is a repeat works of his plays, prose, pieces of poetry,
33:40and these are his three novellas.
33:42And there's words in there.
33:43No, no, there's words in there.
33:45Beautiful pictures of Harold Hughes on the back.
33:47LAUGHTER
33:49Now, is this the script that you're wanting Colin to play you?
33:52No, that's a different script.
33:53That would be a whole different prosthetic.
33:55Stronger, more original.
33:56More original.
33:57We've got the prosthetics worked out for you today.
33:59Don't worry, it's racially sensitive.
34:01Nice.
34:02LAUGHTER
34:03It's fine.
34:04You won't get into trouble.
34:06OK, sure.
34:07I wrote everything that Harold Hughes wrote in order first.
34:12I had a lot of time on my hands.
34:14I think, to me more, we'd like to get a can opener
34:16and look in your brain.
34:18It is fascinating.
34:19So you wrote all of this first?
34:20Yes, all of...
34:21Why?
34:22Because I needed to sort of find out who he was by what he wrote.
34:26The why question does suggest, why did you bother?
34:29No!
34:30No.
34:31This is a key question.
34:33This is an important question.
34:35But I've always wanted to do a thing
34:37whereby you do a story about someone
34:39and then you do all of the things that they did.
34:42So you create a complete fictional world,
34:44kind of like a Salinger Glass family world,
34:47or like Spinal Tap.
34:49I genuinely love their records.
34:52I love Spinal Tap records and I like the documentary.
34:55And where sort of comic worlds can kind of go out and become bigger.
34:59So that was the idea.
35:00Is there anything...
35:01I'm sure so much of you is in all of this work,
35:04but is there any exact anecdote or in the stories
35:07that's from your real life?
35:09Yes.
35:10In terms of how lots of people find the character frustrating,
35:13I've taken that from my life.
35:15LAUGHTER
35:17But did you discover anything about yourself through this?
35:20Well, this is the thing.
35:22This book really is about whether you should keep writing.
35:26And in a way, I've answered that question with those books.
35:30So I'm announcing my retirement...
35:32LAUGHTER
35:34..from writing, and this is it.
35:36Now, this is exciting,
35:37because I believe you brought one of Harold's poems with you.
35:41Yes, Harold wrote a lot of very muscular and powerful poetry,
35:45as well as, you know, his very important films.
35:48And I have asked Colin if he would accompany...
35:52It's a two-hander.
35:53Yes.
35:54It's a two-hander poem. Will you do it?
35:56It's called The Breakdown, the poem.
35:58I would love to. OK, thank you.
36:00So now, I think you've each got a camera that you can look at.
36:03I'll be playing Colin.
36:04Oh, sorry, actually, I have to get into character, because I...
36:08Sorry. OK, sorry. Here we go.
36:10LAUGHTER
36:12Excellent.
36:14It doesn't take four and a half hours, mate.
36:17APPLAUSE
36:19Don't blow this. All right.
36:21OK, so I think Richard is six and Colin is three.
36:24I'll try and do Harold Hughes's voice as well, so don't be alarmed.
36:28OK. OK.
36:29And what's it called again?
36:30It's called The Breakdown. The Breakdown.
36:32Can we say it together? Yes. That would be nice.
36:34One, two, three.
36:35The Breakdown.
36:36Here we go, here we go.
36:38Have you broken down?
36:40I have broken down.
36:42Where did the event take place?
36:44It took place near my home.
36:46How far from your home were you when the event took place?
36:49I don't know how to get to my home.
36:52Was the breakdown sudden or were there warnings?
36:55No-one warns me.
36:57Are you with anyone or are you on your own?
37:00I am on my own.
37:01Was anyone else involved?
37:03No-one else is involved.
37:05Would you like to stay where you are until we arrive?
37:08I would like to be home.
37:10We are quite busy. Are you OK to wait?
37:13I have time.
37:15But I'm not OK.
37:17Are you insured?
37:19I am not insured.
37:21And what kind of car is your car?
37:24I am not in a car.
37:26Well, perhaps it's better to stay in the car.
37:29I do not have a car.
37:32You do realise this is AA?
37:35I know who you are.
37:37We help people who have broken down.
37:40I have broken down.
37:43People who have broken down in their cars.
37:46And what about those who haven't?
37:49APPLAUSE
37:51Beautiful.
37:58Thanks for the work, man.
38:00I've come back out of character now.
38:03Edward Strahani, everybody!
38:05CHEERING
38:07OK, it is time for music.
38:09This man is one of our favourite singer-songwriters,
38:12who has recently gone back to his roots
38:14with his first all-Italian album, Miss Italia,
38:18performing Badda Bing Badda Boom with Miles Kane.
38:22Please welcome Jack Savaretti!
38:24CHEERING
38:26Savaretti, Miles Kane and the rest of the band!
38:29So great!
38:31Jack, come on over and do. Yes!
38:34Oh!
38:36Hey!
38:39Thank you very much.
38:41Jack Savaretti!
38:47There we go.
38:49All and me.
38:51Thank you so much for that.
38:53Thank you so much for having me.
38:55No, not at all.
38:57This is a vain attempt to make me look less handsome, by the way.
39:01Yes, the context is bad for me at the moment.
39:04So, that is off Miss Italia, the new album, which is out now.
39:10So, this is your first all-Italian album.
39:13We should say... We translated that for you.
39:16That's the English version, because we're too thick to be Italian.
39:20So, why an album all in Italian?
39:22To be honest, it was the first album I've ever had to do
39:25rather than chose to do.
39:27My father's Italian, hence Savaretti, the name,
39:29and he passed away two and a half years ago.
39:31And that was the first experience I ever had of grief.
39:34And the psychological and emotional element of it,
39:37I was able to deal with, but the physical side of it shocked me.
39:40The pain, the feeling it in your bones and your skin.
39:43And it got me to a point where it was so painful
39:45that I stopped feeling anything. I became rather numb.
39:48And the only thing that moved me was Italian music.
39:50It was when I would listen to Italian music, which has this thing,
39:53and it would make me feel like his presence was there.
39:55I would find my own sort of sense of feeling.
39:57It would move me to tears, to laughter,
39:59to singing at the top of my lungs.
40:01And I just remember thinking,
40:02I need a lot more of this in my life right now.
40:04And so, I wrote an Italian album.
40:06A question from Miss Gaga.
40:08Is there one song that you think your dad would have loved the most
40:11off your album?
40:13Oh, man. Yes.
40:15There is, because there's only one song he heard.
40:17I never planned, like I said, on writing an Italian album.
40:20It wasn't a choice. It was like a necessity thing.
40:22But there was one song I wrote at like 3 o'clock in the morning.
40:25And I would usually phone him at 3 o'clock in the morning
40:27and not get up too late and just chat about life.
40:29And I said, I've written my first Italian song.
40:31He said it was OK.
40:33It sounds like an Italian father.
40:35Yeah, it sounds like an Italian father.
40:37But it's the song that means the most.
40:39It's the first song on the album.
40:41And I love your life. Your life is so mad.
40:43Because I follow you on Instagram.
40:45Of course you do. We actually write to each other.
40:47So, you were just doing these huge shows in...
40:49Was it Greece you were just doing, big shows?
40:51Greece, but we were blown away. We went to Romania.
40:53I mean, you've played everywhere.
40:55We went to Bulgaria, Sofia.
40:57These are parts of Eastern Europe that are still not super open
40:59to a lot of live music.
41:01So, when you go, the energy, the feeling you get from a crowd...
41:05For someone like... We don't always play to big crowds like this,
41:07so that already in itself is unique.
41:09But when you get that unique, genuine...
41:11They're there because they feel this.
41:13The release. Yeah, it's a release.
41:15Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly.
41:17And that was, for us, very much of a first-time experience.
41:19We're still riding that wave.
41:21People in the UK get to have that experience.
41:23Is it next February?
41:25Yeah, but that's just kind of me alone.
41:27It's a whole different experience.
41:29So, stay home, everyone.
41:33Jack just wants to be by himself.
41:35I'll come. It's all right.
41:37I appreciate it.
41:39Who's in tonight? Just Jack?
41:41It'll be like that.
41:43It'll be me alone with a lot of guests in different cities.
41:45Beautiful. That sounds cool, man.
41:47It'll be good. It'll be awesome.
41:49What I was saying was it'll be different. It'll be wonderful.
41:51Listen, Jack, thank you so much for that beautiful performance.
41:53Good luck with the album and that tour.
41:55Jack Severetti, everybody!
41:57Thank you so much.
41:59Gorgeous.
42:01I love you so much.
42:03OK, that is nearly it
42:05before we go.
42:07Just time for the first visit of the new series
42:09to the big red chair.
42:11Hello. Hello.
42:13Hi. What's your name?
42:15Brett Dunbar.
42:17Brett Dunbar. We have a full name and address here.
42:19LAUGHTER
42:21We just go with first names,
42:23because people Google and find them on Facebook
42:25and are really abusive afterwards.
42:27We'll just say Brett.
42:29Now, I hear an accent. Where are you from?
42:31Originally from South Africa.
42:33OK. But you live here now?
42:35Yes, in Walton-on-Thames.
42:37OK, full address again.
42:39LAUGHTER
42:41Brett wants to be found!
42:43LAUGHTER
42:49Live location.
42:51All right, Brett, what do you do?
42:53I'm a communications manager
42:55for a company.
42:57LAUGHTER
43:03All right, Brett, off you go with your story.
43:05Right, so I was in South Africa
43:07with my best friend.
43:09We were at a lodge
43:11and we were students, no money,
43:13and we really only had money for beer and cigarettes.
43:15So we decided to go to a lodge
43:17and we were on this beautiful gorge
43:19and my friend Roxanne said,
43:21oh, look, Brett, it's a monkey.
43:23And I looked and I said,
43:25no, Rox, that's a baboon.
43:27We need to go.
43:29So we slowly backed away
43:31and we were the only ones on this gorge,
43:33literally looking between death
43:35and this baboon.
43:37And he came up, sat on our table,
43:39he ate every single one of our cigarettes,
43:41except hers,
43:43cos they were the cheap brand.
43:45Then he put his muzzle
43:47into our beers,
43:49downed both of them
43:51and then after a good time
43:53just urinated all over the table.
43:55LAUGHTER
43:57I'm flipping, I'm flipping.
43:59APPLAUSE
44:01I wanted the baboon to do more.
44:03He's two years sober now,
44:05the baboon's dead.
44:07If that had happened in Hyde Park,
44:09an amazing story.
44:11You were on safari in a lodge?
44:13Yeah, you were on a gorge in South Africa.
44:15Of course there's a baboon.
44:17OK, that really is all we've got time for.
44:19If you'd like to have a go in the red chair yourself
44:21and tell your story, you can contact us
44:23via our website at this address.
44:25Please say thank you to all of my guests tonight.
44:27Jack Savaretti and Miles Gane.
44:29CHEERING
44:31Richard Ayoade.
44:33Colin Farrell.
44:35Demi Moore.
44:37CHEERING
44:39And Lady Gaga.
44:41Join me next week with musical guest Terry,
44:44top comedian Greg Davies,
44:46music icon Naina Cherry,
44:48Hollywood star Sebastian Stan
44:50and the one and only Hugh Grant.
44:52I'll see you then. Good night, everybody. Bye-bye.