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00:00So, when the verse came out, it turned out that there were people who worshipped statues, but we do not worship statues.
00:12And when you say that you do not make for yourself a sculpture or a picture, then even the picture is forbidden.
00:19So, your picture is like Abraham, you and the prophets, prostration is forbidden.
00:22The second thing is that Christ did not say only this, nor did the Bible say only this.
00:27Do not prostrate except to the Lord your God. To the Lord your God you prostrate, and to Him alone do you worship.
00:52Good evening, my dear friends in Egypt.
01:21I welcome you to this episode of Sot El Sarakh.
01:28I am ashamed, ashamed of the ignorance of religious men, or of the slander of religious men.
01:43When I found myself in a monastery, like the monastery of the Abbot of Antony,
01:48there was an artist named Gergis Al-Jawli at the University of Minya.
01:54The man was very tired and had been sitting for a long time.
01:57He made a statue 9 meters high and weighed 2 tons.
02:03A respected statue made with great precision by the Abbot of Antony.
02:09This statue was hung at the entrance of the Abbot of Antony.
02:16This statue was hung at the entrance of the Abbot of Antony.
02:21A revolution took place, and a strange thing happened.
02:24He was surprised that the statue was removed.
02:30Why? He said that the statue was against faith.
02:35What did he find? He found another statue,
02:39which is the statue of the Abbot of Antony,
02:42the Abbot of Antony,
02:45and he was proud of it.
02:47I will show it to you.
02:49He thanked the Abbot of Antony.
02:52The Abbot of Antony appreciates the removal of the statue.
02:59He wrote a letter of thanks and appreciation.
03:01We thank the Abbot of Antony in Fayyoum,
03:05under the supervision of the Abbot of Antony,
03:08the Abbot of Antony,
03:10the Abbot of Antony,
03:13the Abbot of Antony,
03:15the Abbot of Antony,
03:17and the Abbot of Antony.
03:19We appreciate the removal of the statue,
03:22which was recently erected by the Abbot of Antony.
03:26We thank everyone who cares about honoring the saints
03:30without neglecting the teachings of the Holy Bible
03:33and the doctrines and rituals of our Orthodox Church
03:37throughout its glorious history.
03:39We do not make a statue for you.
03:41Exit 24, page 588.
03:44The Abbot of Antony, the Abbot of Antony,
03:46and the Abbot of Antony,
03:48on February 26, 2024.
03:52Here, the truth is that I stand up.
03:55And I do not like to go around in circles.
03:58I am a man.
04:00I promised you that I will be honest.
04:02And when I speak, I free myself.
04:04What does that mean?
04:06It means that when I face a political leader,
04:09I put myself on the same chair in front of him.
04:12You and I discuss.
04:14Also, as a religious man,
04:16we will sit and discuss head to head.
04:20I respect and appreciate you as an idea.
04:23Head to head.
04:26For example, the Abbot of Antony,
04:30before he made the statue,
04:32and during the period of fatigue,
04:34Dr. Gilgis Al-Jawli,
04:36did not know this verse?
04:38That it does not make you a carved statue?
04:41How old are you, Abbot of Antony?
04:45And did you know this verse now,
04:48after this age?
04:52Or is there someone from the governorate
04:55or from the regime who told you to remove this statue?
04:59And you, of course,
05:01as you interpret the meanings of the verses,
05:04you brought a verse that supports you
05:07in removing the statue.
05:10But when you come
05:13and hold a verse like this,
05:15it does not make you a carved statue,
05:18or a picture of what is in the sky from above,
05:21and what is in the earth from below,
05:23and what is in the water from below the earth.
05:26When you go to this verse,
05:28you should not have a picture,
05:30Abbot Justus, you and Abbot Abraham.
05:33You do not have a picture,
05:35you do not have a picture,
05:37or icons,
05:38or a picture in the whole church.
05:40The one who comes to the picture,
05:42the ruler who comes to the picture,
05:44is the one who is on the statue.
05:46Will I hear from tomorrow
05:48that you do not have a picture?
05:50You, Abbot Abraham, you and Abbot Justus,
05:53remove the statue to implement the verse?
05:56Or do you implement the verse
05:58to your liking,
05:59which comes to your liking?
06:01Well, there is something.
06:03ISIS, before that,
06:05destroyed the statue of Buza,
06:07in Afghanistan.
06:09Yes, they worship Buza,
06:11not the statue of Buza.
06:13Buza is also a symbol.
06:15But ISIS did this.
06:17We all consider this a civilized response.
06:20A civilized response.
06:22Well,
06:23the first thing we will discuss
06:25is the time of this verse.
06:27This is in the Exodus,
06:29and in the Tessinon.
06:31Why did this verse appear?
06:33Because indeed there were people
06:35who could have been in the Old Testament,
06:39in the days of Pharaoh,
06:41they could have worshipped the statue.
06:43They were afraid,
06:44and there were priests who used to
06:46incense the statues.
06:47So they were told not to repeat
06:49this act of incensing the statues.
06:51Especially,
06:52that the people of Moses,
06:54during the Exodus,
06:55all of them,
06:56when they went out,
06:57they made a calf and incensed it.
06:59This is for people who are used to this.
07:02Are we used to worshipping statues?
07:06For example,
07:07have you ever seen me holding a statue
07:09and worshipping it?
07:10I pray for the statue.
07:12Or do I take a symbol?
07:14I mean,
07:15when I hold a picture of my late father
07:17and I look at it,
07:18I look at the paper,
07:20or I look at myself.
07:22I go to my father,
07:24and the picture of my father,
07:26or my son.
07:27I look at the picture of my son
07:29when I miss him.
07:30Do I look at it?
07:31Do I worship this?
07:32Or is this a symbol?
07:33Do we worship statues?
07:36We do not worship statues.
07:41Are you sure that you can go to me
07:43and worship a statue of freedom in America?
07:46Or the statues that are worshipped
07:52in Ramesses?
07:53Or in Nefertari?
07:54Or in Tivre?
07:55We can go and destroy them.
07:57Well,
07:58the effort of this man,
08:00if you found a statue
08:02under your house,
08:04our master,
08:05you would look for a deputy from the People's Assembly
08:07to take care of it,
08:08and I would tell you everything.
08:10Well,
08:11don't leave this man
08:12who works in the statue
08:13in the Jewish Council.
08:14Maybe he sold it to another country.
08:16The statue that he works in
08:17is destroyed.
08:18You are destroyed.
08:19So,
08:20when this verse came out,
08:22it came out because there were people
08:24who worshipped statues.
08:26But we do not worship statues.
08:28And when you say,
08:29you do not make a statue,
08:31you do not make a statue,
08:32then even the statue is forbidden.
08:34So, your statue,
08:35Abraham,
08:36you and the prophet,
08:37worshiping it is forbidden.
08:38The second thing,
08:39the Christ did not say this,
08:40nor did the Bible say this,
08:42do not worship except the Lord your God.
08:45To the Lord your God you worship,
08:46and to Him you worship.
08:47I want you to tell the Christ
08:49once,
08:50forgive him,
08:51so that he may worship him.
08:53The woman who killed the old man,
08:55this is a different story.
08:57She washed her feet,
08:58and she washed them.
09:00And she was about to give birth,
09:01and she said,
09:02she did this to give birth to me,
09:03because I will be crucified,
09:05and this baby will sit on my body.
09:08But this,
09:09come once and tell me,
09:11that his disciples prostrated to him,
09:14or that someone prostrated to his disciples,
09:16or that he commanded someone,
09:18then you prostrate to him.
09:20You and the prophet,
09:21prostrate to him.
09:22You and the prophet,
09:23prostrate to him.
09:24You are alone on the chair.
09:25And there is someone who gives you incense.
09:27He comes before you and gives you incense.
09:28If you were a god,
09:29there is someone who gives you food.
09:32If you were a god,
09:33this is forbidden.
09:34Prostration is forbidden.
09:36And if you want to do it,
09:38and you want to be reformed,
09:40there are no pictures,
09:42there are no statues,
09:44there are no icons,
09:45there are no prostrations,
09:46there is no incense,
09:47there is no prostration.
09:49But you give me a piece,
09:52and you leave everything.
09:54Either you take everything,
09:55or you leave everything.
09:57But if someone calls you from the governorate,
10:00or someone calls you from a place
10:02where the devil is playing with you,
10:05this is an example of the entrance of the monastery.
10:08The entrance of the monastery.
10:10And there are many statues in it.
10:12Are you going to remove them or what?
10:13Who are we going to please?
10:14Are we going to please Sheikh Burhami?
10:16Or are we going to please Sheikh Huwaini?
10:18Or are we going to please the Salafis who live in Egypt?
10:20Or are we going to please the Salafi government
10:22that has taken over Egypt?
10:25Don't go too far.
10:27Don't go too far,
10:29and let us respect you with honesty,
10:34and let us feel that you are honest men,
10:37and let us respect you with honesty.
10:42Statues are not forbidden.
10:44If you knew that this is an example,
10:46you would have removed it.
10:48And making statues is art and creativity.
10:52We used to praise the art of carving.
10:55But you, Christians,
10:57and Salafis,
10:59are supporting the Salafi forces.
11:03It's a disaster.
11:05It's a disaster.
11:06It's a disaster to see that Salafism,
11:08Hamagism,
11:10Rajaism,
11:11and backwardness
11:12have reached our ceiling.